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>> No. 453901 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 2:08 pm
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ARE LIZ thread

Big event, saves clogging the weekdays thread

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-62834633
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>> No. 453902 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 2:15 pm
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>15:11

>Signs that something serious going on, says former royal correspondent

Hold your horses, lad.
>> No. 453903 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 2:33 pm
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Look at her hands in the BBC website's picture of her. They're practically purple. She must be freezing. Bloody energy companies.
>> No. 453907 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 3:10 pm
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Doesn't quite seem like she's dead. More like a developing media frenzy.

Old people can take their time. My grandad had a fainting seizure once, he was in and out of consciousness for over two hours and we really thought that was it, but he recovered from it pretty much fully. He had some heart problems, but it wasn't a heart attack as such. Doctors were slightly puzzled. Gave us a right scare. He then held on for about another year before dying peacefully in his sleep.
>> No. 453908 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 3:22 pm
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Nah, she's gone lads. Probably in her sleep or early on today. There's long been speculation that they wouldn't drop the news with a bang, so instead what we're seeing is a drop feed to set people up for the official announcement.

All the family are on their way to Balmoral. They interrupted Bargain Hunt for the bulletin. Huw has his black tie on. The way Liz Truss and Keep Starmer were informed was definitely a big giveaway.

Fuck it she probably never even met Liz Truss on Monday, it was just CGI like Carrie Fisher in The Last Jedi.
>> No. 453909 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 3:30 pm
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>>453908

Didn't figure they'd keep us hanging like that on the day.

You can't deny that something's up.
>> No. 453910 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 3:37 pm
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I think we're in the "morphine and wait" part of her dying. Well, she's getting the morphine, everyone else is waiting.

>>453909
People don't necessarily die that quickly, it could take a few days yet.
>> No. 453911 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 3:39 pm
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CNN just posted that she's gone, before rapidly deleting.
>> No. 453913 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 3:43 pm
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To those who say she's already dead: remember when you media geniuses were sure Boris was on the way out when at no point was he even put on a ventilator?
>> No. 453914 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 3:46 pm
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Useful reading:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/16/what-happens-when-queen-elizabeth-dies-london-bridge
>> No. 453915 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 3:46 pm
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>>453913
No, because that was fucking forever ago. I can't remember what I posted here two days ago, let alone two years.
>> No. 453916 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 3:57 pm
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_London_Bridge
Don't be expecting a bank holiday lads.
>> No. 453917 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 4:01 pm
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>>453901
So we all agree this is really it?
>> No. 453918 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 4:28 pm
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>>453916

>The media would be informed by announcement to PA Media and the BBC through the Radio Alert Transmission System (RATS) and to commercial radio on the Independent Radio News through a network of blue "obit lights" which will alert presenters to play "inoffensive music" and prepare for a news flash,

So... Radio 2 will be even more bland than usual?
>> No. 453919 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 4:30 pm
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>>453917
The odds of a full recovery are, in my opinion, negligible. I think she is still alive now, and I expect she will die over the weekend. But I'm not any sort of insider. She could already be dead or she could, potentially, even turn out to be fine. But I doubt she's fine. If I was a betting company, I would stop accepting bets on her dying.
>> No. 453920 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 4:35 pm
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>>453918
I tuned into Radio 2 earlier when I first heard she was ill, to see what sort of music they played. It was the news, and it was even other news stories, but then the first song they played was Sing by Travis, and I thought, that's bad-news music if ever I heard it.
>> No. 453921 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 5:43 pm
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>>453920
This BBC coverage of a fucking gate is just ridiculous.
>> No. 453922 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 6:10 pm
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>>453921

Protocol dictates that the official announcement will be made by a footman attaching a notice to the gates. The BBC are clearly expecting it.

>>453918

We expect that they'll switch to a wholly instrumental playlist with no DJ chatter in between songs, so it might be an improvement.
>> No. 453923 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 6:33 pm
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RIP
>> No. 453924 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 6:34 pm
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She's gone lads.

RIP ARE LIZZY

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61585886
>> No. 453925 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 6:40 pm
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Every radio station on my FM dial is currently playing an obituary, with the exception of 106.9 Silk FM, which has gone straight from the traffic to "Relight My Fire" by Take That.
>> No. 453926 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 6:42 pm
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Called it.

Are Lass owes me a tenner now, get in.
>> No. 453927 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 6:45 pm
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>>453921
I thought that at the time, how daft.
>> No. 453928 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 6:46 pm
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RIP.

Was it even a year after her husband? This decade has been quite morbid so far. The death of the queen was definitely one of those "[Shigeru] Miyamoto will die in your lifetime" things that I would often see people say. Now, it's here.
>> No. 453929 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 6:47 pm
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Fuck. I had just given up waiting because Radio 1 was playing some hard dance rave shit. I can't believe they would mislead me like that.

I've always heard Prince Charles wouldn't be King Charles, and would use another name. What will he be? Can I call him King Charles?
>> No. 453930 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 6:50 pm
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>>453926
Yeah, but she's only got money from last season. You really want a tenner with the new players on it.
>> No. 453931 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 6:50 pm
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It’s Graham Potter I feel for.
>> No. 453932 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 6:50 pm
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LONG LIVE THE KING.
>> No. 453933 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 6:53 pm
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RIP Liz ;_;
>> No. 453934 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 6:56 pm
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>>453928
There's a good chance she'll not be the only British monarch dead this decade.
>> No. 453935 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 7:02 pm
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>>453934
Modern drugs can keep these freaks alive forever.
>> No. 453936 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 7:03 pm
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bloody hell lads!
>> No. 453937 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 7:04 pm
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>>453928
Phillip died April 2021
>> No. 453938 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 7:04 pm
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>>453934

Andy will have an accident in the carpet-bagger wing?
>> No. 453939 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 7:10 pm
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I'm more sad than I like to admit.

The other Liz is speaking right now.
>> No. 453940 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 7:12 pm
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Hah.
>> No. 453941 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 7:17 pm
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>>453939
This. I have issues with the whole ridiculously rich and elite business, but it's the ruddy Queen.
>> No. 453942 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 7:27 pm
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Hell of a year eh fellas
>> No. 453943 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 7:30 pm
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>>453939
There can be only one Liz.

Though it's quite funny that noted republican Liz Truss gets to announce a new king. As a bonus, it appears that she announced "Charles III" about 20 minutes before Clarence House confirmed it.
>> No. 453944 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 7:31 pm
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>>453935
Evidently not
>> No. 453945 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 7:33 pm
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>>453938

He'll just end up quadrispazzed on a lifeglug.
>> No. 453946 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 7:37 pm
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>>453943

Succession is automatic at the moment of the old monarch's passing. With no objection to be expected from Charles, it was fair to assume even before the announcement came.
>> No. 453947 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 7:41 pm
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I wonder if we'll get any official confirmation as to what happened.
A 70 year reign brought to an end by tripping over a dog?
>> No. 453949 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 7:51 pm
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>> No. 453950 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 7:51 pm
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>>453946
That's great Mr Witchell but everyone else was talking about the name Charles would adopt upon his accession, not whether he would become king.
>> No. 453951 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 7:57 pm
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>>453947
The rumours are to do with the colouration of her hands and it being a sign that her heart was packing it in.
>> No. 453952 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 7:58 pm
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>>453946
For years there has been talk that he wanted to be George VII, and normally the name wouldn't be officially decided until the morning after.

I'm guessing that, Liz Truss being Liz Truss, she came out and said it, ruined the moment Charlie had been waiting for his entire life, and then he had to get Clarence House to announce that name.

Every statement from Buck House to this point had referred to simply "the King".
>> No. 453953 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 8:00 pm
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>>45394747

I watched my nan die in an old people's home. She was 90. There were no obvious causes, she wasn't gravely ill besides being frail in the way you can expect a person that age to be. But one day, she simply woke up very unwell. When we went to visit that day, I was shocked at the state she was in, and I asked one of the nurses if there was nothing they could do, but she just told me that my nan had "begun to let go," and that we should just allow it to happen. Of course they probably saw that kind of thing unfold every other week at that home, but it was pretty disturbing for us to witness.

So anyway, at that age, you don't always need a distinct cause of death as such. You just die.
>> No. 453954 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 8:11 pm
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I've never seen memes come out this quickly, it's pure gold.
>> No. 453955 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 8:16 pm
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>>453951
I wonder how many times Liz the lesser will come out with a variation of "The power given to me by our beloved late Queen." in the coming weeks.
>> No. 453956 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 8:17 pm
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Right, I'm bored of it now. Thank fuck for streaming, Nicholas Witchell puts me right off my dinner.
>> No. 453957 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 8:18 pm
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>>453954
I feel like this is the first major instance of essentially the entire internet community saving up memes in preparation for months, ready to post at a moment's notice. A notable event for meme historians, I would say.
>> No. 453958 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 8:26 pm
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>>453954
>> No. 453959 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 8:43 pm
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Stable Diffusion humbly offers this tribute to Her Majesty.

Prompt: a portrait of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II in the style of Lucian Freud
>> No. 453960 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 8:45 pm
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>>453959
Rest In Peace, Liz.
>> No. 453961 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 8:49 pm
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>>453959
The mods can't handle an x-ray of a USB wire. No way will they stomach a painting of the royal bosom.
>> No. 453962 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 8:53 pm
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So do you think they'll get Brian May to play God Save The Queen at the funeral?
>> No. 453963 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 8:56 pm
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>>453961
That boy's coinpurse was extremely visible, you need your eyes checked.
>> No. 453964 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 9:02 pm
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>>453963
So was his cock; it was the tangled up part.

Is it because he was a teenager? There's definitely an x-ray of Andy Murray's cock on /spo/ that didn't have people reaching for the smelling salts.
>> No. 453965 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 9:03 pm
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A dignified (and very flattering) portrait by Stable Diffusion in the style of Botticelli.
>> No. 453966 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 9:04 pm
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>>453964

>Is it because he was a teenager?

Yes, obviously. I don't think there's any legal precedent on whether an x-ray of a 15-year-old's gentleman vegetables is indecent, but I doubt that the mods want to be the test case.
>> No. 453967 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 9:25 pm
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>>453939
I always knew I'd be sad. I was genuinely angry at work that we didn't all get sent home, and she wasn't even dead yet. In fact, I'm surprised at how fine I am. I didn't think I'd be used to King Charles so quickly.
>> No. 453968 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 9:31 pm
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>>453967
Just wait until it's his face on the money and stamps. That's when it'll get weird, although we'll probably hear God Save the King before then.
>> No. 453969 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 9:41 pm
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Should we start saving bank notes and coins so we can flog them in 50 years time when they're valuable?

Might be a solid investment to just stick a few fivers in photo frames considering the way inflation is going.
>> No. 453970 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 9:49 pm
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>>453969
Have the mint got Charlie coins & notes lined up?
Are we going to get current raddled old Charles, or jug-eared younger Charles?
>> No. 453971 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 9:56 pm
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>>453970
They'll have some drafts lined up, but formally the Royal Mint have to send designs to Charles and the Chancellor to sign off. Most likely these will be based off a new royal portrait.

The new coins will have Charles facing to the left as they alternate this each time there's a new monarch.
>> No. 453972 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 10:13 pm
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>> No. 453973 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 10:17 pm
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>>453969

>Should we start saving bank notes and coins so we can flog them in 50 years time when they're valuable?

Given that they have been around for 70 years, there's absolute tons of them in circulation. They will probably not become rare enough in a meaningful way for a long time.

If Charles only reigns for a few years, then his notes and coins could be more valuable in 50 years time than those with his mother.


Even Google is toning it down tonight.
>> No. 453974 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 10:33 pm
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>>453973

The new plastic ones have barely been around a decade. Doesn't the BoE take note out of circulation and destroy them anyway? I was under the impression that's why they end up rare, it's not just like vinyl records or something.
>> No. 453975 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 10:42 pm
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>>453974

>Doesn't the BoE take note out of circulation and destroy them anyway?

They do, but loads of people will keep theirs in the same belief that they'll be worth something someday.
>> No. 453976 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 10:47 pm
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>> No. 453977 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 10:50 pm
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>>453975>>453973
I still get 1971 1 & 2p's in change now and again.
When you think of how many hands they must have passed through.
>> No. 453978 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 11:11 pm
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>>453977


>> No. 453979 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 11:13 pm
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>>453977

>When you think of how many hands they must have passed through.

Did you swab them for cocaine traces?
>> No. 453980 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 11:29 pm
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You've been warned. No wanking until after the funeral, you hear?
>> No. 453981 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 11:34 pm
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>>453980

It's what ARE LIZ would have wanted.
>> No. 453982 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 11:34 pm
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Do you reckon Casualty will be on this Saturday?
>> No. 453983 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 11:37 pm
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Tbh I'm waiting to see what Kunt does in tribute.
>> No. 453984 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 11:44 pm
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Even if she's wearing a really ugly green suit.
>> No. 453985 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 11:46 pm
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News coverage is getting repetitive by now.

Been sort of watching Sky News in the background here the last two hours or so while doing some work stuff, and they're now just showing the same segments over and over.
>> No. 453986 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 11:48 pm
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>>453973
>>453975

Well, according to a quick google what I done, a fiver from 1972 is worth £73 in today's money.

Nevermind if it becomes collectible or not, at that rate I can just shove a grand under a pillowcase, and by 2072 I'll have £15k. Why has nobody else figured this out? Jesus, savings accounts are for mugs.

I'm such a genius.
>> No. 453987 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 11:54 pm
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>>453985
Suppose all they can really do is wait for new official happenings.
>> No. 453988 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 12:03 am
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>>453987

Well she's not going to die again, is she.
>> No. 453991 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 12:30 am
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>>453986
Are you just calculating inflation and thinking that a £5 note from the 70s will mean you have £73 quid? Mate...
>> No. 453992 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 12:31 am
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>>453991
>> No. 453996 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 7:19 am
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>>453983
I think you need to take a break from shoehorning Kunt into everything. He's been phoning it in for years now; he hasn't released a genuinely good song since c. 2015.

If he does find his creative spark again let us know, but otherwise this is the equivalent of someone constantly bringing up Rick Edwards when they're an irrelevance these days.
>> No. 453997 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 7:27 am
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So when's Charles going to start campaigning for his firmly held beliefs? He's been waiting for this for so long, and doesn't really have long to get stuff done.
>> No. 453998 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 7:30 am
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also, which is going to be the first country to ditch him as head of state, having been holding on 'cos Liz was a good old bird...
>> No. 454000 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 8:45 am
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>>453998
are there many left? As long as Canada/Aus/NZ are still in the flock, I couldn't give a rats ass otherwise.
>> No. 454001 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 8:50 am
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She's much beloved in Virginia.
>> No. 454002 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 9:13 am
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>>454000
There are 56 member states in the Commonwealth, with Tuvalu and Nauru being the smallest.

72 nations competed in the Commonwealth Games this year, which includes the likes of Jersey, the Falklands and Norfolk Island. There was not a single competitor representing South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands. Lads, we know what we have to do.
>> No. 454006 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 10:06 am
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Getting ready for a Teams meeting right now.
>> No. 454007 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 10:16 am
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>>453997
Constitutionally, I don't think he can. That's part of why he was always so into these things as a prince.
>> No. 454008 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 10:47 am
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When and how many bank holidays do we get?
>> No. 454009 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 10:50 am
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>>454008
I read that the day of the funeral will be a public holiday, but it'll probably be on a weekend so no luck, I'm afraid.
>> No. 454010 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 10:50 am
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>>454008
The funeral is on the 19th so I expect we'd get that and the coronation off, but no guarantees.
>> No. 454011 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 11:19 am
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oops. That's a lot of caterers and show stands fucked...
>> No. 454012 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 11:37 am
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Went out into town and up to Asda this morning. Things seemed surprisingly normal.
>> No. 454013 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 11:39 am
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>>454010
Is there a long time between the coronation and funeral?
>> No. 454014 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 11:44 am
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Do you think the Queen will get more flowers outside Buckingham Palace than Princess Diana did? I certainly hope so, but people did go utterly mad for Prinny D.
>> No. 454015 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 11:49 am
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>>454012
I saw huge amounts of traffic this morning on my way to work. I wonder if everyone has taken a day off to drive around in grief.

>>454013
The Queen became queen in 1952 and the coronation was in 1953, and Edward VIII was king for only a few months and never had a coronation at all. So I don't think the coronation of King Charles III will happen for a while yet.
>> No. 454016 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 11:51 am
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>>454013
The Queen was coronated about 16 months after she ascended the throne, largely to do with planning and protocol.
>> No. 454017 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 1:06 pm
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Bit much, all those gun salutes across the country.
>> No. 454018 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 1:33 pm
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So what are we going to call the new age now. I've heard it floated that it'll be known as a new Caroline Age, but one of my mates says it should the Charlesian Age.
>> No. 454019 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 2:03 pm
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>>454018
I thought Charles ages were Carolingian rather than Caroline, but perhaps this is why he always thought about using his middle name.
>> No. 454020 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 2:21 pm
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>>454019

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caroline_era

>The Caroline era refers to the period in English and Scottish history named for the 24-year reign of Charles I (1625–1649).


The Carolingians were a distinct Frankish dynasty founded by none other than Charlemagne. Which has little to do with our Royal Family, besides quite likely a few common ancestors a few centuries up the family tree.
>> No. 454021 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 2:22 pm
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I think it should be an age where there is a republic.
>> No. 454022 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 3:09 pm
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I don't know why this insanely melodramatic headline is so hilarious to me, but it is.
>> No. 454023 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 3:19 pm
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>>454022
https://www.annsummers.com/ this is my favourite.
>> No. 454024 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 3:29 pm
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The Tour of Britain has been cancelled. The Paris-Roubaix still ran in 1919, despite most of the course having been destroyed by shelling. Bollocks to this.
>> No. 454025 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 4:37 pm
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>>454024
Yeah, the more and more I'm told this is a devastating loss, the more I see sobbing women kissing King fucking Charles' hands the more and more I want to say fuck off to the whole bizarre affair.
>> No. 454026 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 4:43 pm
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>>454025

In 1969, the Queen didn't give her usual Christmas message. The BBC had broadcast a 90 minute documentary about the royal family earlier in the year and she felt that the British people had seen quite enough of her for one year.
>> No. 454027 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 4:53 pm
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Look up to the sky, take your mind off things.
>> No. 454028 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 4:55 pm
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It'll be interesting to see how the popularity of the monarchy now fares in the Commonwealth.

Us, we're very clearly all going to die under a king.
>> No. 454029 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 4:55 pm
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>>454025

It's one for the women, isn't it.

It's a form of escapism to follow up on the Royals and fantasize about being part of a less shit life than your dowdy middle class existence, where there are kings and queens and fairytales and princesses. And slain dragons.

How many lads do you know who soak up all the royal gossip with the degree of commitment as many wimmins do.
>> No. 454032 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 6:21 pm
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>>454029
I take it you didn't see the Meghan Markle thread on /iq/. Lads can certainly be like a bunch of old fish wives at times.
>> No. 454033 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 6:22 pm
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This is getting a bit tiring. I can't seem to escape it. Why must it be everywhere, all the time?
>> No. 454035 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 6:34 pm
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>>454033

Give it a few days.

The people in the back rows inside St. Paul's Cathedral look surpisingly ordinary, like they were literally picked off the street. Anybody know how they were selected?
>> No. 454040 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 7:30 pm
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>>454029
It’s definitely not just women, there are plenty of blokes thicker than two short planks going ape. We laughed at those Nirth Koreans shouting about the radiant brilliance of their WW2 surplus gear, but we’re, collectively, not so far from that kind of batshittery.

>>454033
It’s propaganda. I know I sound like the most annoying man in the pub saying this, but what else can I call a situation in which the hereditary title of head of state is passed from mother to son and any dissent is wholly forbidden? It’s horrible.
>> No. 454041 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 8:01 pm
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All I'm seeing now are BRILLIANT fucks. They kept their mouths shut yesterday, but now everyone sounds like you lot. I haven't seen a single person behave in a way I consider to be an overreaction. Perhaps you should all just stay off Mumsnet and the Daily Mail website for 48 hours.

I still think it's disgraceful that the Queen died on Thursday on purpose so we could all have Friday off work, and then I didn't. Bloody government. The wrong Liz died.
>> No. 454048 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 9:40 pm
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Honestly, at this stage, I'm not sure which is worse - the sycophantic flag-shagging cunts going on about how we should all be nice to the old dead lady, or the annoying pseudo-intellectual takes from people who don't understand the concept of "constitutional monarch" all about how maybe she could have done something to stop all those atrocities various governments committed in her name.
>> No. 454049 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 9:57 pm
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>>454048
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/feb/08/royals-vetted-more-than-1000-laws-via-queens-consent
>> No. 454050 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 10:00 pm
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>>454048

I'm hardly what you'd call a staunch royalist, but those people with an anti-monarchy hate boner have always annoyed me far more than any of their opposite counterparts.

They are so often just inherently annoying smug cunts, a lot like vegans or fisherpersons. Fundamentally agreeable on an ideological level, but so insufferable I find myself sympathising with their opponents.
>> No. 454051 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 11:01 pm
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>>454049

so... is this Queengate?
>> No. 454052 Anonymous
10th September 2022
Saturday 1:39 am
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>>454049

The monarch has the constitutional duty to supervise and advise the government, but the monarch's power of veto should only be used in the most dire circumstances. No, our constitution isn't written down because we aren't Yanks.

>>454048

>They are so often just inherently annoying smug cunts, a lot like vegans or fisherpersons. Fundamentally agreeable on an ideological level

I'm not sure that they're even particularly agreeable on an ideological level. Relatively few countries are constitutional monarchies, but they're almost all the kind of places you'd want to live - Australia, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, The Netherlands and Canada obviously spring to mind. There are plenty of disastrous republics, but Lesotho is the only genuinely shit constitutional monarchy that I can think of and I'm not sure that it counts. Empirically, constitutional monarchy delivers exactly what it promises. Chesterton's fence etc.
>> No. 454054 Anonymous
10th September 2022
Saturday 3:10 am
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>>454052
>The monarch has the constitutional duty to supervise and advise the government, but the monarch's power of veto should only be used in the most dire circumstances.
Quite. The institution of power is the Crown. The current King or Queen is just a meatpuppet, and the government shoves its hand up their arse when it wants them to say or do something. If the monarch expects people to do what they say while the government doesn't have its hand up their arse, then that's no longer in the realm of constitutional monarchy. That's absolute monarchy, and we fought a very bloody civil war over that.

I'd happily do away with the monarchy if we could figure out what to replace it with. Last time we tried, we ended up with a theo-fascist dictatorship. I don't even know who we'd tolerate as a British President.
>> No. 454055 Anonymous
10th September 2022
Saturday 8:58 am
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>>454054

>I'd happily do away with the monarchy if we could figure out what to replace it with. Last time we tried, we ended up with a theo-fascist dictatorship.

That doesn't mean the concept of a presidential republic is flawed as such. It all hinges on the fine print, and on the person that is in charge. Just look at the U.S.. Good presidents have done very remarkable things. But yeah, then there have also been Bush junior and Trump.

I'd rather keep our monarchy though. It has served us well, and it is something special to have. It's good that it's not an absolute monarchy anymore, but as a ceremonial head of state, with some real powers, a king or queen can't do much harm.
>> No. 454056 Anonymous
10th September 2022
Saturday 9:14 am
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>>454052
>The monarch has the constitutional duty to supervise and advise the government, but the monarch's power of veto should only be used in the most dire circumstances.
What does that have to do with reality?
>> No. 454057 Anonymous
10th September 2022
Saturday 9:43 am
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>>454022

I'm surprised that they didn't splash "HISTORIC COLLECTABLE EDITION" on it somewhere - as if it were an article of hand-painted ceramic tat - like the Mail do.
>> No. 454058 Anonymous
10th September 2022
Saturday 9:58 am
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>>454022

I was just looking at the covers of the main newspapers, and most of them are shockingly bad. It's not like they were somehow rushed, I'm sure most of them had a front page waiting to be used for months by now.

I think probably the Mirror had the best one.
>> No. 454059 Anonymous
10th September 2022
Saturday 11:35 am
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Charles is a strong supporter of climate action and has spoken out against the Rwanda thing. As far as monarchs go, he could be worse.

This could go three ways, as I see it: He's going to have to step back from public life, the Murdoch media are going to have to get behind those things, or they'll have to turn on him.
>> No. 454060 Anonymous
10th September 2022
Saturday 11:41 am
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>>454059
Anyone who's seen House of Cards could have told you that.
>> No. 454061 Anonymous
10th September 2022
Saturday 11:49 am
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BANK HOLIDAY FOR THE FUNERAL.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62862225
>> No. 454062 Anonymous
10th September 2022
Saturday 12:07 pm
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>>454055
The easiest change for us to make would be to a parliamentary republic, which would basically just substitute a non-executive president for the monarch, but I still can't imagine who we'd actually have in that position.
>> No. 454063 Anonymous
10th September 2022
Saturday 12:40 pm
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>>454062

The Germans have a parliamentary democracy and elect their President every five years in what they call the Federal Assembly, which is comprised of all members of the Bundestag parliament and an equal number of delegates chosen from the general public each time. Competing candidates are put in the running by the Bundestag's various different parties.

Candidates tend to be known senior political figures or somebody who has otherwise held an important public office, but they oftentimes seem to be somewhat random, so they don't really overthink who should be President. It's just a ceremonial role, as the real power lies with the Chancellor and his or her government.
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10th September 2022
Saturday 1:01 pm
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If you want to get rid of the monarchy it'd be fairly simple to do.

Andrew is eighth in line for the throne. Wipe out Charles' descendants and he'd be our next monarch. Even if he abdicated because nobody wants King Andrew, one of his ghastly daughters would be next. It'd be the most surefire way of turning the public against the concept of having a monarchy.
>> No. 454065 Anonymous
10th September 2022
Saturday 1:43 pm
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>>454052
>No, our constitution isn't written down because we aren't Yanks.
Look at this statement.

This thread is amazing. I was confused why people would hate democracy and would want a dictator in some study that was posted recently. But it looks like we are half way there already. Bloody morons.
>> No. 454067 Anonymous
10th September 2022
Saturday 2:50 pm
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>>454065

>Look at this statement.

If you don't understand the arguments against a written constitution, you don't understand the British constitution.

American constitutional law is concerned solely with the meaning and intent of their written constitution - not what is right or fair, not what is compatible with international human rights law, but what is meant by a document written in 1787 by a group of mostly drunk slave owners.

Do you have a right to carry a handgun? Do you have the right to have an abortion? Well, that depends mostly on whether the most recently deceased Supreme Court justices died during a Republican or Democratic presidency. Writing down their constitution doesn't actually safeguard anyone's rights, but it does lock their system in a perpetual power struggle that only ever moves in spasms and judders.

Other countries with more malleable written constitutions don't see any real benefit either. In 2020, 78% of the Chilean electorate voted to establish a Constitutional Convention to replace the old Pinochet-era constitution. Last year, Gabriel Boric was elected president, largely based on his promise to deliver a new constitution. This week, 62% of the electorate voted against enacting the new constitution that had voted massively in favour of writing. The Chilean people are ostensibly desperate to replace their fascistic constitution, but don't actually seem in a particular hurry to replace it.

A written constitution is a sign of systemic failure. If the institutions that interpret and enforce the constitution don't function properly, then it's just a meaningless bit of paper. If they are functioning properly, then they'll interpret the document in the interests of the people in light of contemporary circumstances and so it doesn't really matter what's on the bit of paper. At best a written constitution is useless; at worst it causes more harm than good.

Meaningful protections cannot be imposed by fiat - they have to be encoded into the structure of the political and legal system. The mechanisms by which we prevent the abuse of power have evolved over the course of 800 years and embody vast amounts of institutional learning. We have carefully divided out symbolic and practical power to prevent any one individual from gaining absolute control. Writing some political affirmations on a fancy scroll won't make our judiciary more learned, the Speaker of the House more even-handed or our civil service more independent.

Our current political difficulties are in no way the fault of our constitution, which has been tested and proven to be satisfactory by the many efforts of Boris Johnson to subvert it. We got exactly what we voted for, and will continue to get it hard, with no lube until we vote for something different.
>> No. 454075 Anonymous
10th September 2022
Saturday 7:08 pm
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>>454065
People hate democracy because the voters keep electing shitty leaders.
>> No. 454080 Anonymous
10th September 2022
Saturday 8:46 pm
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>>454075

And also because the choices you are given are basically Pepsi and Coke, except not even pepsi and coke, it's Ben Shaw's and Panda Pop.
>> No. 454085 Anonymous
10th September 2022
Saturday 9:20 pm
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>>454080

Knock it off mate. Either you're too young to remember the 90s, or you're so old that you can't remember what you had for breakfast. The Blair government poured record amounts of money into public services and the effects were clear to see in every part of society. The middle way worked, it was glorious and we were all too spoiled to appreciate it. We used to take for granted that schools would have enough staff, that an ambulance or a police car would turn up if you called 999, that disabled people would get enough benefits to live on, that the council would collect your bins every week and look after the elderly.

We can have all of that back, but some people (mainly middle-class people who don't bear the brunt) would much rather be miserable contrarians who argue that anything short of a Glorious Socialist Revolution is a waste of time. New Labour delivered massive positive changes for practically everyone in Britain; those who would prefer a "principled" Labour opposition to a pragmatic Labour government are just Tory stooges.
>> No. 454086 Anonymous
10th September 2022
Saturday 9:38 pm
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>>454085

Well, yes, I actually agree, but Kier isn't even Tony Blair is he. If New Labour were Abba, current Labour is Steps.

Anyway don't worry, they'll walk it at the next election, my lazy public sector arse will get the pay rise I finally deserve, I'll have a mortgage by then and politics will be all fine and dandy. But the point is, it's easy to see why zoomers don't give a shit.
>> No. 454088 Anonymous
10th September 2022
Saturday 10:00 pm
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>>454085
They delivered all of that, but all some cunts seem to obsess over is that damn war.
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10th September 2022
Saturday 10:17 pm
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>> No. 454090 Anonymous
10th September 2022
Saturday 10:49 pm
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>>454085
Come off it. One of the first acts of the Blair government was to cut benefits for single mothers and a subsequent act (I think technically implemented under Brown, but started under Blair) was to create the work capacity assessment system. I could go on, but I don't really care - the bleeding heart angle is boring and irrelevant.

Blairism was a failure. You can tell it was a failure because Labour has been out of power for the best part of a decade, and the real project of Blairism wasn't to kick single mothers, to bugger up the structure of NHS England or to build a big dome in London while blowing one up in Ice Town. It was to make Labour the natural party of government, which it isn't and probably never will be. Blair thought you could win by courting Tory voters. He missed the real lesson of Thatcherism: If you really want to win you don't court the other side's voters, you've got to either capture them or destroy them.

Thatcher saw that home owners are more likely to vote Tory and council tenants more likely to vote Labour, then threw council houses at their tenants to buy new voters with state money. She saw shareholders were more likely to vote Tory, then did the same again. She saw trade unionists were more likely to vote Labour, then crippled the unions. Turfing half Labour's manufacturing vote out onto the dole, where they're less likely to vote, was probably just a happy accident but it worked all the same. Blair was never that smart - he was all tactics and no strategy at best and an ideologue at worst - doing his little third way dance because he though it'd be best for the country without properly considering party political interest.
>> No. 454091 Anonymous
11th September 2022
Sunday 2:25 am
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>>454085
What are you on about? I took his post to mean that one of the biggest complaints about our democratic system is that it's a two-horse race where nobody else stands a chance, and you chime in with "But ackchually both horses win sometimes." So what?
>> No. 454092 Anonymous
11th September 2022
Sunday 4:51 am
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>>454091

Then you misread his post. He was clearly arguing that the choice we are offered is a false choice between two near-identical options. Our two main political parties are not indistinguishable fizzy brown liquids and your choice does matter.

I'm an advocate for electoral reform, but we aren't going to get it until the boomers all die, because the two-party system suits their interests. For the foreseeable future, we have two choices - Labour or Tory. That is a profound, life-changing decision for many millions of people. We can have a Labour government if we arse ourselves to go out and vote, but people aren't going to bother if we perpetuate the nonsense that a centre-left party is no better than the most radical right-wing government in British history.
>> No. 454093 Anonymous
11th September 2022
Sunday 9:14 am
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>>454092

You misread my post, in that it was a hyperbolic and tongue in cheek argument that I don't even really believe myself. It was, in short, a joke.

In fact I was recently banned from r/greenandpleasant for making this exact argument, which in their eyes is presumably betraying the cause or something. I am convinced every lefty subrudgwick is operated by spooks, because it feels far too coincidental to me that as soon as Labour start leading in the polls, all the online lefty spaces start screeching about how you're not a real leftist if you dare vote for them. You can tell me that's tinfoil paranoia and the sad truth is leftists really are just that thick, or that it has been crippled run by hipster wanker students, whose only interest is in being on the moral high horse of opposition, never in seizing power and certainly never helping anyone; but no, I think someone had to instigate their brain rot.

Anyway, if I was making any point at all it was more that they're both cheap knock-offs, shite versions of something somebody else established. Neither party is at the top of it's game in terms of talent, so it's easy to understand why people feel that way.
>> No. 454094 Anonymous
11th September 2022
Sunday 10:26 am
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>Can I get a cheese burger and a medium banana milkshake please, Your Majesty.
On my visit to Derby's Derbion yesterday all the advertising screens where this image or something very similar too. Also, watching ITV3 the day after she kicked the bucket, I noticed there were no ads. I don't know why exactly, but if the Queen's death has ended all advertising everywhere then I might have to do a 180 on my opinion of her.
>> No. 454095 Anonymous
11th September 2022
Sunday 10:56 am
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>>454094
Eagle Centre represent.
>> No. 454096 Anonymous
11th September 2022
Sunday 11:01 am
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>>454093
>as soon as Labour start leading in the polls, all the online lefty spaces start screeching about how you're not a real leftist if you dare vote for them
I, for one, was advocating left-wingers to vote elsewhere when they weren't leading in the polls.
>> No. 454098 Anonymous
11th September 2022
Sunday 11:44 am
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>>454093
Why do sympathisers of the Labour right and centre like to pretend that Labour's problem is whining left-wingers not turning out to vote, rather than that we're a country full of well-to-do geriatric Tories who know exactly what side their bread is buttered on?
Half of Starmer's Blair re-enactment crew desperately want him to piss off the left, to have them go out and tell people Labour isn't really Labour anymore, because they think it'll help them win over Tories when they cry about how he ditched energy nationalisation or whatever. Iceland's finest clause-4 moment. Yet at the same time these people who never tire of going on about how Corbyn only appealed to the lefty party faithful and couldn't win (which, indeed, he never did - even in 2017) suddenly turn around and lay the groundwork for blaming the not-so-faithful party faithful for Labour's loss in the next election because they wouldn't just shut up and smile.

We'll get another chart like this and people will insist it's the 18-29 year olds calling Starmer 'Keith' on furry twitter wot lost it.
>> No. 454099 Anonymous
11th September 2022
Sunday 12:04 pm
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>>454093
>I was recently banned from r/greenandpleasant

I don't know why you'd visit there in the first place. It's an echo chamber for complete lunatics.

>>454094
Ma'am lovin' it.
>> No. 454100 Anonymous
11th September 2022
Sunday 1:41 pm
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>>454098

This appears to be a rebuttal to an argument nobody was making, so I'm not sure what to make of it.

>>454099

>I don't know why you'd visit there in the first place. It's an echo chamber for complete lunatics.

Well, that's rather the point, in my experience of online lefty communities, it was (up until quite recently) by far one of the least mental. There were even plenty of people on there who agreed idpol is cancer, which has become my personal measuring stick for how in touch with reality someone's politics are.
>> No. 454101 Anonymous
11th September 2022
Sunday 2:55 pm
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>>454100
It's the implied argument of a statements like
> but people aren't going to bother if we perpetuate the nonsense that a centre-left party is no better than the most radical right-wing government in British history.
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>it has been crippled run by hipster wanker students, whose only interest is in being on the moral high horse of opposition, never in seizing power and certainly never helping anyone
Which places agency on those who say Labour is no better than the Tories, or those who have no interest in sizing power. It implies that if those people behaved differently, Labour would be in with a chance.

As I always do, I over-wrote things and stuck in tangents about other groups because I'm incapable of brevity, but my main point is that internet lefties are irrelevant to Labour's prospects. Nothing they do or are likely to do could shift the outcome of the next general election.
>> No. 454103 Anonymous
11th September 2022
Sunday 3:14 pm
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>>454101

Yeah, to an extent, I suppose.

But I think there's some truth to the idea that infighting is an obstacle to preventing generally left wing governments taking power, not just Labour. And I hardly think it's on par with moon landing conspiracies to suggest that spooks, propagandists and wreckers operate with the express goal of stoking the tensions.

Just look at that moderator in >>454099. Calling Jeremy fucking Corbyn a "cowardly liberal", while proudly displaying their idpol brainworms. It couldn't be an more eye-rollingly predictable. I know a bad faith opinion when I see one, and that's every bit as dishonest as the PMC journo ghouls who were calling him an anti-semite a couple of years ago. People like that are on someone's payroll and I refuse to believe otherwise.

>internet lefties are irrelevant to Labour's prospects

So, to clarify, Keith is right to ignore them and their whinging? Because I mean, I agree, but the first half of your post sort of sounded like you were coming from the other direction.
>> No. 454105 Anonymous
11th September 2022
Sunday 4:03 pm
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Never knew you could fill an entire afternoon of news coverage just watching a hearse travel down roads and motorways. And voice-over commentary from various people whose connection to the events at hand is often remote at best.
>> No. 454106 Anonymous
11th September 2022
Sunday 4:26 pm
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>>454103
>So, to clarify, Keith is right to ignore them and their whinging?
He's right to ignore them in that they're irrelevant and don't need to be won over, but wrong in that much of what they say is correct. (Even if accidentally.) So it's a wash really.

I tend to look at most apparently bad faith opinions like that are natural evolutions of the way websites are laid out. In a case like that I'd look far more at what's likely to get someone attention, or show them off as more-radical-than-thou, rather than for who's paying them. People are often just responding to incentives. (Though they don't usually notice it. After all, we lie best when we lie to ourselves.)
>> No. 454107 Anonymous
11th September 2022
Sunday 4:39 pm
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>>454105
I'm sure some people will complain, but watching a helicopter follow some traffic for ten hours is pretty much what the coverage of the Tour de France is, and people watch that.
>> No. 454108 Anonymous
11th September 2022
Sunday 4:42 pm
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>Antigua and Barbuda will vote on whether to become a republic following the death of Queen Elizabeth II, the country's prime minister has said.

>Gaston Browne said a referendum could take place within three years - but emphasised that the move was "not an act of hostility".


Ungrateful cunts.
>> No. 454109 Anonymous
11th September 2022
Sunday 4:45 pm
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>>454103
>I know a bad faith opinion when I see one, and that's every bit as dishonest as the PMC journo ghouls who were calling him an anti-semite a couple of years ago. People like that are on someone's payroll and I refuse to believe otherwise.

Looking from the outside, I think what matters most to them is being the underdog. They want to be in the minority. They want to be the downtrodden victim. They want to be in the position where there is no accountability for their beliefs because there's no realistic prospect of them being popular; they want to complain about how shit things are, safe in the knowledge it's everyone else's fault.

That said, the invasion of Ukraine confirmed the sub is full of tankies.
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11th September 2022
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>>454107

>is pretty much what the coverage of the Tour de France is, and people watch that.

Yes, but with the Tour de France, you can at least expect something interesting to happen. Short of somebody dropping ARE LIZ's coffin at the end and her corpse falling out, there weren't going to be any unforeseen events.
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11th September 2022
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>>454098

>Why do sympathisers of the Labour right and centre like to pretend that Labour's problem is whining left-wingers not turning out to vote, rather than that we're a country full of well-to-do geriatric Tories who know exactly what side their bread is buttered on?

We are a country full of geriatric Tories, but your graph is missing some very important data. Young people and poor people are much more likely to support Labour, but much less likely to actually turn out to vote. Old Tories certainly do not believe that there's no point in voting because they're all the same.
>> No. 454114 Anonymous
11th September 2022
Sunday 7:04 pm
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Any minute now Harry will appear from the back to make a break, but the hearse will have chased him down with 10km to go.
>> No. 454115 Anonymous
11th September 2022
Sunday 7:27 pm
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>>454114

The hearse's driver pilot again on top form today, despite not getting any practice at all for the last 70 years. It's almost in the bag for him now.
>> No. 454116 Anonymous
11th September 2022
Sunday 7:52 pm
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>>454115
At this stage, someone further back is going to need to fire a blue shell at him.
>> No. 454117 Anonymous
11th September 2022
Sunday 8:07 pm
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>>454116

But, as we've just been informed, all shells were needed for the many gun salutes up and down the country, and are out of stock now.
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11th September 2022
Sunday 11:36 pm
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>Stop leaving Paddingtons and sandwiches as Queen tributes, mourners told
>> No. 454121 Anonymous
11th September 2022
Sunday 11:47 pm
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We can't even do hapless serfdom properly.
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12th September 2022
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>> No. 454123 Anonymous
12th September 2022
Monday 12:22 am
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I don't get it.

Did anyone else have that really creepy talking E.T. toy as a child? The one with the red hoodie? There was something horrible about that little thing.
>> No. 454124 Anonymous
12th September 2022
Monday 1:08 am
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>>454123


No, I have never owned any sort of toy ET.
>> No. 454128 Anonymous
12th September 2022
Monday 11:39 am
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>#1 Worldwide
>Tracked by 116K

ARE CHARLES on his way to Edinburgh
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12th September 2022
Monday 11:47 am
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>>454128
I thought he was well into his climate change and stuff, yet here he is on what must be his third domestic flight in less than a week.
>> No. 454130 Anonymous
12th September 2022
Monday 11:57 am
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>>454129

Well he wasn't just going to hop on a Megabus, was he.
>> No. 454131 Anonymous
12th September 2022
Monday 12:12 pm
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>>454130
I mean, it's not like he's got an entire Royal Train, which includes both a sleeper and a lounge car that he had fitted out to his own spec, or anything.
>> No. 454132 Anonymous
12th September 2022
Monday 12:54 pm
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>>454131

Then again, having an entire train mostly to yourself isn't going to do wonders for your carbon footprint either.
>> No. 454133 Anonymous
12th September 2022
Monday 1:04 pm
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>>454130

An Embraer 145 variant is pretty much the Megabus of private jets, though they're pretty economical (relatively).

I'm sure his is kitted out nicer than most bizjets, but still. Why not get a BAe 125, lovely British jet that. Or a Bombardier, keep it in the commonwealth at least. Are King can't be flying about in a foreign plane.
>> No. 454134 Anonymous
12th September 2022
Monday 1:12 pm
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>>454131
Tbh if I was Kinglad i'd want a proper Steam Engine to pull the Royal Train. Ready to go 24/7.
>> No. 454135 Anonymous
12th September 2022
Monday 1:27 pm
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>>454133

>Are King can't be flying about in a foreign plane.

Are LIZ was in the back of a Mercedes hearse.

But I guess when you're dead it doesn't matter.
>> No. 454136 Anonymous
12th September 2022
Monday 1:37 pm
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>>454135

Definitely she should have had a range rover hearse, like Phil's landy one.

I just don't see how we're supposed to respect the monarchy when they can't even do basic branding.
>> No. 454137 Anonymous
12th September 2022
Monday 1:53 pm
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Prop her up in the front of one of these.
>> No. 454138 Anonymous
12th September 2022
Monday 1:59 pm
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>>454137

Better yet.
>> No. 454139 Anonymous
12th September 2022
Monday 11:55 pm
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God I wish they'd shut the fuck up about these privileged posh cunts now.
>> No. 454140 Anonymous
13th September 2022
Tuesday 2:11 am
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Has there been a song yet? Candle in the Wind sold five million copies and wasn't even about Diana.
>> No. 454147 Anonymous
13th September 2022
Tuesday 5:18 pm
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>>454140

Different circumstances.
>> No. 454148 Anonymous
13th September 2022
Tuesday 5:39 pm
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There she goes.

The Queen's last flight.

https://www.flightradar24.com/KRF01R/2d73086f
>> No. 454149 Anonymous
13th September 2022
Tuesday 5:41 pm
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>>454147
So write new lyrics like Elton John did. Here; I've already found the perfect tune.

https://youtu.be/WKUa46dEmVM
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13th September 2022
Tuesday 5:59 pm
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>>454149


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Jtpf8N5IDE


It'll probably be a while till you'll hear that song played again.

It's not on the radio that often, but a while ago, Radio 2 used to play it late at night occasionally.
>> No. 454151 Anonymous
13th September 2022
Tuesday 6:59 pm
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Monarchists are sub-apes.
>> No. 454152 Anonymous
13th September 2022
Tuesday 7:09 pm
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I've noticed a lot of republicans are Catholic.

Strikes me as a tad hypocritical that does. The crown got nothing on the church.
>> No. 454153 Anonymous
13th September 2022
Tuesday 7:31 pm
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>>454152
They don't appreciate the competition.
>> No. 454154 Anonymous
13th September 2022
Tuesday 7:35 pm
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>>454152

Probably goes back to Tudor times. Catholics never fully forgave Henry VIII for starting his own church.

I've always been a monarchist, and I'm agnostic. Probably got it from my parents who are also monarchists, but I think while Mars and Earth align, we can do with a bit of tradition. Especially when it's something that has been part of our cultural identity for over a thousand years. It's probably a good thing that it's not an absolute monarchy, but I'd like to see us maintain the status quo. I really hope Charles will do well as King.
>> No. 454155 Anonymous
13th September 2022
Tuesday 7:40 pm
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>>454151

That's the whole point, you fool. The monarchy is a honeytrap for deranged nationalists, a distraction tactic to contain the weird impulses of people who want to worship an unelected national figurehead. If it wasn't for their acculturated sense of deference and obedience, they'd all be out starting the Fourth Reich. Is that what you want?
>> No. 454156 Anonymous
13th September 2022
Tuesday 7:46 pm
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>>454155

>The monarchy is a honeytrap for deranged nationalists, a distraction tactic to contain the weird impulses of people who want to worship an unelected national figurehead.

Oh lad.
>> No. 454158 Anonymous
13th September 2022
Tuesday 8:56 pm
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>Center Parcs has been criticised by customers after it said it planned to close its five UK sites on the day of the Queen's funeral, turfing holidaymakers out for 24 hours.

>Complaints started to flood in via its social media pages after the company said it would shut sites from 10am on the day to allow staff "to support our Queen on her final journey".

>It said that all holidaymakers who would be affected would receive an email on Tuesday to explain their options. They include a full refund if guests want to cancel their breaks.

>Those partway through seven-day holidays - which generally cost more than £1,000 for a family of four at this time of year - will be forced to spend the night elsewhere or go home early. They could leave belongings in their living accommodation if they wished, the statement added.

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/center-parcs-faces-backlash-for-turfing-out-guests-on-day-of-queens-funeral-12696487

How utterly mental. Imagine going away for a week and then being told you've got to fuck off elsewhere for 24 hours.
>> No. 454159 Anonymous
13th September 2022
Tuesday 9:15 pm
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>>454158

Nobody has been cancelled yet for being insufficiently respectful, so everyone's starting to get a bit paranoid. Until someone takes one for the team and acts as a hate magnet, things will just keep getting weirder. You would have thought that Corbyn would have said something grossly inappropriate by now, but he won't even insult the queen if it might mean accidentally doing the right thing.
>> No. 454160 Anonymous
13th September 2022
Tuesday 9:37 pm
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>>454158

Center Parcs are shite anyway.
>> No. 454161 Anonymous
13th September 2022
Tuesday 9:39 pm
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>>454159

The royalist fawning by NPCs reeks of that Stalin Clapping anecdote.

Have people posted the video of that one woman that queued to view the queen's corpse 7 times like it was Space Mountain yet?
>> No. 454163 Anonymous
13th September 2022
Tuesday 10:28 pm
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>>454158

Center Parcs will be open on Monday. I repeat Center Parcs will be open on Monday.

I don't give a shit because I holiday at Pontins like a normal person. But I'm sure all you Barbour-wearing, SUV-driving, Grouse-beating, book-reading homeowners will be well pleased.
>> No. 454165 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 2:09 am
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>>454163

Honestly I went to a center parc once, it was at Woburn Forest, and it was complete shit. Mediocre weather the whole time, which wasn't their fault, but also, there were just young families with unruly sprogs everywhere. And the lake they had there was just a murky hole in the ground. The pools inside were disgusting, and there was mold around fixtures in a number of places.
>> No. 454169 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 6:44 am
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The ignorant "if the monarch is powerless why are people getting arrested for criticising them?" takes from mostly Americans are getting tiresome.

They're getting arrested because the police are run by the Home Office and the Home Office is run by fascists.
>> No. 454170 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 7:34 am
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>>454169

>They're getting arrested because the police are run by the Home Office and the Home Office is run by fascists.

They're getting arrested because there isn't an absolute right to protest in this country and there never has been. The Public Order Act gives the police extremely broad powers to nick people who are being a pain in the arse. Having been on the receiving end of public order policing, I am near certain that any arrest would have been preceded with a polite word along the lines of "Look, this isn't the time or the place, so just move on before one of these mourning royalist nutters decides to chin you."

Ironically, most of the (British) people complaining about anti-Monarchy protesters being arrested would be the first to demand that the police get involved if the Westboro Baptist Church were picketing a gay person's funeral. Arresting those arseholes would also rely on the Public Order Act.
>> No. 454172 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 9:16 am
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>>454170
Sounds like Thailand, and you are giving it a sheen of British sensibility.
>> No. 454173 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 9:55 am
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>>454172

>Sounds like Thailand, and you are giving it a sheen of British sensibility.

No. This isn't about the monarchy, it's about public order. If your church decides to hold a counter-protest at Gay Pride, you're probably going to get moved on or arrested. On any given Friday or Saturday night you'll see a few public order arrests in the town centre, likewise at any big football fixture.

You're only likely to be arrested if you choose to ignore a polite request to stop acting like a knob. If you are arrested, you'll almost certainly be released without charge unless you were doing something totally blatant or you kept acting like a knob after you were arrested. If you are charged, the maximum sentence under Section 5 is a fine of £1000, but you'd probably be offered a police caution or end up with a conditional discharge.

I don't think it's an Orwellian nightmare for the police to stop fights from breaking out at massive public gatherings. Genuine Republican activists have been protesting for years, largely without incident; most of them are sensible enough not to protest against the monarchy in front of a load of people who are upset about the recent death of a monarch.

Disclosure: I have been arrested under the Public Order Act on a number of occasions and the police were totally right to do so. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
>> No. 454174 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 9:58 am
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>>454173
Just because you got arrested for acting like a knob, that doesn't mean all arrests are for acting like a knob. At least, acting like a knob is a relative thing and the issue is that its creep is being accelerated.
>> No. 454175 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 10:23 am
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>>454173

I'm struggling to understand your point of view, here. From your description, the Public Order Act is too vague and far-reaching, and very much designed to be that way. Similarly, "acting like a knob" isn't and shouldn't be a crime.

I understand that people can incite or provoke violence, but that doesn't mean it's right to give the police sweeping powers to arrest whoever they think is "acting like a knob". Like in your example, the mourning monarchist is clearly wrong to hit someone protesting at an event.

The fact you've been arrested and that you agree with the decision (now? Back then? Were you protesting or just pissed?) doesn't really add much.
>> No. 454176 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 10:35 am
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Anyone whose definition of "being a knob" includes calling noted teen sex abuser and teen sex trafficking client Prince Sweaty No[b][/b]nce Andrew a paedo needs to have some serious words with themselves.
>> No. 454177 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 10:58 am
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>>454176

Call him a carpet-bagger all you want, and he is, but show some respect when his family who are present at that moment are dealing with far bigger things.


>>454173

>You're only likely to be arrested if you choose to ignore a polite request to stop acting like a knob.

That is largely my experience with police as well. They don't arrest people without good reason.
>> No. 454178 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 11:21 am
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All this lying in state business has me wondering, isn't she just going to rot at some point? It's still five days till the actual funeral.
>> No. 454179 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 11:33 am
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>>454175

>From your description, the Public Order Act is too vague and far-reaching, and very much designed to be that way.

It is vague and far-reaching, but it really isn't abused all that much. There are about 50,000 arrests per year on public order offences, covering everyone from protesters to pissheads to general arseholes. That's a remarkably low rate, relatively speaking. There's a broad spectrum of human behaviour that is almost impossible to precisely define, but would in the eyes of any reasonable person be seen as needlessly aggressive or provocative; that's the standard which our legal system upholds.

There's no way in a million years that I'd give American cops the same powers, but we don't have American cops, American courts or American politics. There are definitely issues with policing in this country, but our cops are overwhelmingly sensible and reasonable. The Met is a bit iffy, the TSG are genuine bastards and there's the odd bad apple who never got over being bullied in school, but your average copper is a decent bloke doing a horrible job for rubbish money because they genuinely care about public safety.

>The fact you've been arrested and that you agree with the decision (now? Back then? Were you protesting or just pissed?) doesn't really add much.

Protesting. I had a grudging acceptance at the time that it was just part of the game, but I've gained a far greater appreciation of policing in hindsight. I was arrested on dozens of occasions over the course of several years, involved in several court cases and was part of a community where that was the norm. My perspective is based on all of the stupid stuff I did in plain sight of the police that didn't end up with me in cuffs.

Arresting someone is a ballache, there's loads of paperwork, it's extremely boring and if you cock it up you might end up getting a massive bollocking and a black mark on your personnel file. It's just totally self-defeating for police officers to arrest people without good reason. They've got no incentive to do it and lots of incentives to not do it. Maybe once or twice I got snatched because an inspector just wanted to say that people had been arrested, but most of my arrests were a result of me absolutely taking the piss and ignoring several opportunities to de-escalate the situation, or being caught red-handed doing something that was too serious to be ignored.

Maybe some people think that you've got a basic right to be an absolute fucking nuisance, but as someone who used to be a full-time nuisance I can't agree with that. A lot of people involved in my movement genuinely cared about a social cause, but there were plenty of hangers-on who couldn't care less about the cause but just wanted an excuse to be antisocial. For those of us in the former camp, getting arrested was just an occupational hazard; for the latter, it was always a terrible outrage that proved how they personally were being victimised by a fascist state.

I think that protest is an important part of a democratic state, I think that sometimes protesters are entirely morally justified in breaking the law, but an absolute and consequence-free right to protest just gives free reign to total pricks and would ultimately undermine the value of protest.
>> No. 454180 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 11:36 am
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>>454178

If she hasn't been embalmed, then her coffin will be stuffed with ice packs. It isn't rocket science to keep a lump of meat fresh for a week.
>> No. 454181 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 11:44 am
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>>454177
I'm looking at the money I was paid in compensation for unlawful arrest and wondering what the fuck you're on about. They do it regularly enough that it's budgeted for, they even have the level of compensation worked out down to payments-per-hour spent falsely imprisoned, to streamline it out of court. Arrests for no good reason are utterly routine.
>> No. 454182 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 11:46 am
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>>454179
It's changed since you were a teenlad.
>> No. 454183 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 11:59 am
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>>454181

I guess it depends on how much of a public cunt you allow yourself to be.

I've had plenty of dealings with police during my lifetime, not because I'm a wrongun, but because I'm an oldlad in my 40s. And what I found universally, even in my younglad days, was that if you give police a minimum of an impression of respect and mindfulness, then they will eventually leave you alone. It does mean complying when they ask you politely the first time.
>> No. 454184 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 12:04 pm
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>>454183
That's where we're talking at cross purposes; in my book, if a policeman doesn't have the legal right to stop you doing something, for example if what you're doing isn't illegal or you have a human right to do it, I don't see it as a "good reason" for him to arrest you when you do it against his wishes. What you're saying is that it's okay for a policeman to arrest you if you don't follow his every command.
>> No. 454185 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 12:19 pm
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>>454183
Your rambling is ridiculous. The police aren't some paternalistic force. Your aren't a child.
>> No. 454186 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 12:21 pm
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>>454185

No, they're not; but how unpleasant an encounter with them is going to be depends largely on you, not them.
>> No. 454187 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 12:27 pm
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>>454186
Your younger self would spit on you and be right to.
>> No. 454188 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 12:33 pm
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>>454187

I'm beginning to grasp why you're so bumsore about the issue.
>> No. 454189 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 12:38 pm
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>>454188
You're really not. You're advocating giving up all your rights, and seem to actually do that in practice. You characterise standing up for yourself as bad behaviour that should be punished. Might makes right. You're a fascist.
>> No. 454190 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 12:42 pm
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>>454189

>You're advocating giving up all your rights, and seem to actually do that in practice. You characterise standing up for yourself as bad behaviour that should be punished. Might makes right. You're a fascist.


Sigh.

Really, lad?
>> No. 454191 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 12:47 pm
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>>454190
How else can you describe it? You want people to obey authority without question, without individual or free speech rights. Don't make a fuss and hope they pick on someone else, maybe they'll leave you alone. Funny thing about fascists is they generally don't realise that's what they are.
>> No. 454192 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 12:48 pm
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>>454181

Has your mother ever described you as "a good lad really"? Did your school reports contain the word "lively"?
>> No. 454193 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 12:54 pm
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>>454191

Impressive how you're able to read all that into what I said.
>> No. 454194 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 1:04 pm
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>>454193
>It does mean complying when they ask you politely the first time.
>> No. 454195 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 1:19 pm
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>>454194

Lad, it's the Police. Not the Gestapo. They're not going to drag you to a concentration camp.

As it goes, we're pretty far from fascism in this country.

And there's still the IOPC you can complain to later on if you feel you were treated unfairly.
>> No. 454197 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 1:34 pm
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>>454195
You've got some polish on your lip.
>> No. 454198 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 1:38 pm
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>>454195

Nobody has to be dragged off if they just come quietly while people with anti-authoritarian self images who harbour deeply authoritarian sentiments stand around making up excuses for how they must have deserved it anyway.
>> No. 454199 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 2:11 pm
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>>454198

Believe what you like m8. If you'd like to recalibrate your opinion of British policing, I would highly recommend getting arrested by the Gendarmerie or the Cuerpo Nacional. It's not something I'd recommend under any other circumstances.
>> No. 454200 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 2:13 pm
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>>454198

I think it's a mix of tinfoil hat paranoia and wanting to feel like Johnny Big Bollox for showing the Establishment the middle finger.

The 70s called. And they said they don't want you back, punklad.

Abiding by society's most basic rules is not the same as letting the fascist state fuck you up and down your arse as it pleases. At least not if the state you live in isn't fascist as such.

In my 40-plus years of living a very ordinary life, I have not once been in a situation where police threatened to arrest me. I've been in traffic stops, I've been pulled over for speeding a few times in well over 25 years of driving, and even had to fight off an entirely made up common assault charge once. But I never even came close to getting arrested. Just as the vast majority of people.

I don't know how it's a violation of your basic rights that police have the power to arrest you if they have reasonable grounds to do so. And even if they didn't, again, ring up the IOPC and complain. Police power isn't absolute in this country, and police officers have to answer to higher authorities for their own misconduct.
>> No. 454201 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 2:13 pm
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>>454195
Even police in Saudi Arabia won't just drag you off. The will ask you nicely to close your shop for prayer time. You should just comply.
>> No. 454203 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 2:19 pm
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>>454200
>Abiding by society's most basic rules is not the same as letting the fascist state fuck you up and down your arse as it pleases
Like getting arrested for holding a blank sign?
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14th September 2022
Wednesday 2:24 pm
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>>454201

Are you really trying to compare what is essentially an absolute theocracy to modern-day Britain?

When was the last lashing of an infidel in your local town square? Or a stoning of an adulteress?
>> No. 454205 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 2:27 pm
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>>454200

>Abiding by society's most basic rules is not the same as letting the fascist state fuck you up and down your arse as it pleases. At least not if the state you live in isn't fascist as such.

It's not even that. I spent much of my life flagrantly disregarding a lot of society's basic rules, but I was generally treated well by the police because I treated them well. Nobody likes getting arrested, but you don't have to be an arsehole about it.

They're just people doing a job. Broadly speaking, they do that job with a remarkable degree of professionalism and courtesy. If you disagree with the job they're asked to perform, that's a matter for parliament.
>> No. 454206 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 2:47 pm
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>>454205

>They're just people doing a job. Broadly speaking, they do that job with a remarkable degree of professionalism and courtesy.

And they maintain that courtesy even when they have to arrest the worst of criminals. Like in that documentary on Channel 4 early last year where they were shadowing a special police unit which was targeting carpet-baggers who were attempting to groom children online. It led to a few arrests at that person's home in front of rolling cameras, and even when faced with disgusting evidence, the arresting officers remained calm and accomodating towards the suspect.

It's more an American TV trope that they'll come and beat down your door at 3 am and kick you to the ground and then put handcuffs on you while you're pinned down on your stomach. It does happen there, verifiably, but in the UK, that would almost certainly count as excessive force.
>> No. 454214 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 3:53 pm
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On Radio 2 earlier they had a caller in to Jeremy Vine who said he'd cancelled his dental appointment on Monday as a mark of respect to the Queen. He said he's prepared to put up with the pain and suffering of delaying his root canal treatment in light of her years of service to the country.
>> No. 454216 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 4:00 pm
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>>454205

Police arrest policy in the relevant contexts will depend largely on logistics, politics, optics and tactics. If you were breaking the law in front of them, it just means you were either doing something they didn't care about, or wanted you to do. That doesn't mean they won't knowingly arrest people who aren't breaking the law, if it suits command, and it has nothing to do with how polite you're being.
>> No. 454218 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 4:07 pm
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>>454214

Bit much. Respect is one thing, but don't be daft about it.
>> No. 454219 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 4:08 pm
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>>454218
It's reminding me a bit of poppymania around Remembrance Day, when you've got to show that you can remember the fallen harder than everyone else.
>> No. 454222 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 4:28 pm
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>>454219

the shipping forecast, innit.

They're probably right pricks otherwise.
>> No. 454223 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 4:28 pm
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>>454222

>the shipping forecast

Touché.
>> No. 454225 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 4:55 pm
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That reminds me, my prediction of blue and yellow poppies causing a ruckus this year is almost upon us.
>> No. 454226 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 6:02 pm
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>>454219
THIS. QUEEN HARD OR GO HOME.

(I've bitten my tongue in this thread so far lads).
>> No. 454227 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 6:25 pm
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>>454226

Right you are.
>> No. 454232 Anonymous
15th September 2022
Thursday 12:06 pm
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The queue to see the Queen is now 3.8 miles long.

Absolute madness.
>> No. 454233 Anonymous
15th September 2022
Thursday 12:08 pm
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>>454232
Whenever they show the queue on the news, it's almost all women. I might go down and see if I can pull.
>> No. 454234 Anonymous
15th September 2022
Thursday 12:25 pm
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>>454233

Funerals are said to be almost as good a place to pick up women as weddings.

Let us know all the details.
>> No. 454235 Anonymous
15th September 2022
Thursday 1:17 pm
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>>454234

Easier, if rigor mortis has set in.
>> No. 454236 Anonymous
15th September 2022
Thursday 1:50 pm
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The Queue has surpassed four miles, and is becoming a tourist attraction in itself.
>> No. 454237 Anonymous
15th September 2022
Thursday 2:09 pm
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>>454236

Honestly, I can understand people's desire to pay their respect. And I am a monarchist myself. But there's a limit. I wouldn't stand in a queue for four miles even if at the end of it I'd get to have a chat with ARE CHARLES himself.
>> No. 454238 Anonymous
15th September 2022
Thursday 2:10 pm
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>>454236
Do I have to queue to see the queue?
>> No. 454239 Anonymous
15th September 2022
Thursday 2:13 pm
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>>454236

We've chosen to mark the death of a monarch by forming a massive queue. God, it makes you proud to be British.
>> No. 454240 Anonymous
15th September 2022
Thursday 2:35 pm
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So we've all got the day off on Monday for the statty funes, but I'm wondering- Will the pubs be open?

I'm going to make a full english and watch the funeral (mostly because of the historic significance rather than because I'm any kind of royalist), but what do you normally do after a funeral in this country? You get pissed don't you. And you can't get pissed if the pub's shut.

Are we having a nationwide wake or what? It'll be better than the jubilee.
>> No. 454241 Anonymous
15th September 2022
Thursday 2:41 pm
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>>454239

You're being facetious, naturally, but honestly. Can you think of any other country this civilised, and yet so... Not.

There's a lot wrong with this country but I can't think of anywhere I'd rather have been born.
>> No. 454242 Anonymous
15th September 2022
Thursday 5:47 pm
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>>454232>>454236
The Queue is the most wonderfully British bit of ridiculousness in years.
>> No. 454244 Anonymous
15th September 2022
Thursday 7:45 pm
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They're now simply calling it The Queue.

We should keep it as a permanent attraction. Like the London Eye or the Tower.
>> No. 454245 Anonymous
15th September 2022
Thursday 7:55 pm
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>> No. 454246 Anonymous
15th September 2022
Thursday 7:55 pm
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>>453940
Really makes you wonder what sort of secret pedophilic & satanic rituals will inevitably be accompanying the funeral and coronation
>> No. 454247 Anonymous
15th September 2022
Thursday 8:24 pm
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>>454245
Is that the Queen in the middle there?
>> No. 454248 Anonymous
15th September 2022
Thursday 8:28 pm
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>>454246

Prince Edward will probably sacrifice a virgin.
>> No. 454251 Anonymous
15th September 2022
Thursday 9:18 pm
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>The truth is, that since the days of Llywelyn the Last and the "rebel" Prince of Wales, Owain Glyndwr, the title has been held exclusively by Englishmen as a symbol of dominance over Wales. To this day, the English "Princes of Wales" have no genuine connection to our country.

>The title remains an insult to Wales and is a symbol of historical oppression. The title implies that Wales is still a principality, undermining Wales' status as a nation and a country.
>> No. 454253 Anonymous
15th September 2022
Thursday 9:57 pm
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>>454251

There's really nothing more tragic than a Welsh nationalist.
>> No. 454254 Anonymous
15th September 2022
Thursday 10:01 pm
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>>454253

I think they're adorable, like a small child declaring themselves king of the garden.
>> No. 454255 Anonymous
15th September 2022
Thursday 10:30 pm
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>>454251

Amazing foresight that they called him Llywelyn The Last.
>> No. 454256 Anonymous
15th September 2022
Thursday 10:36 pm
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Why do I get the impression Charles is going to want to be more involved with the running of things than Lizzy?

Like he wants to be a proper King and rule over his subjects.
>> No. 454257 Anonymous
15th September 2022
Thursday 11:01 pm
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>>454256
I'm sure he'll definitely want Liz to legalise weed.
>> No. 454258 Anonymous
15th September 2022
Thursday 11:26 pm
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There is now a queue for The Queue.

https://twitter.com/BBCLondonNews/status/1570517598848032768

This is surely the most British thing that has ever or will ever happen.
>> No. 454259 Anonymous
16th September 2022
Friday 12:07 am
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When will King Charles start wearing kingly outfits? The 24/7 coverage of the same four video clips over 70 years pointed out to me at one point that Queen Elizabeth always dressed in bright colours so people would know which one she was from a distance when she was surrounded by her entourage. That's a stroke of genius, but now I kind of expect that from my monarchs. I know his mum just died, so that's probably why he's just been wearing a black suit every day, but I hope he steps up the fashion game next week. Prince Andrew dresses like he's just come back from the Battle of Waterloo, and he's about as royal as I am these days. Charles III needs to give himself a few medals at the very least.
>> No. 454260 Anonymous
16th September 2022
Friday 12:20 am
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>>454259

He could go the Marquess of Anglesey route.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-51651894
>> No. 454261 Anonymous
16th September 2022
Friday 12:39 am
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>>454256>>454259
Can he actually reclaim a bit of power from Parliament?
As i'm aware it's a sort of consent job that we have a PM.
>> No. 454262 Anonymous
16th September 2022
Friday 12:43 am
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>>454261
>Can he actually reclaim a bit of power from Parliament?
If he were so inclined, he'd be the second Charles to try it, and it didn't go so well for the first.
>> No. 454263 Anonymous
16th September 2022
Friday 9:34 am
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>>454261
The Queen lobbied Parliament to interfere with about 14 laws every year she was in power (on average). When we talk about her being hands-off or nor being involved in government, I think that's just the line we're fed.
>> No. 454264 Anonymous
16th September 2022
Friday 9:52 am
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It's not as though the police are above making things up for the press if they want to justify their actions post-hoc*, so it seems weird to imply that they had a reason to arrest these people beyond simply being wrong about the law, or because their superiors told them to do it regardless for optic's sake. If the people wrongfully arrested had actually been causing trouble in other ways, we would have heard about it, loudly. There would have been footage of it, if not from the police directly then from the Murdoch media. To infer that they must have been asking for it somehow, other than by lawfully exercising their rights, and that it just happens to not have been filmed or mentioned anywhere, is fucking stupid.


*https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2008/dec/15/kingsnorth-climate-change-environment-police
>> No. 454265 Anonymous
16th September 2022
Friday 11:46 am
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>>454264

A person is guilty of an offence if he—

(a)uses threatening [or abusive] words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or

(b)displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening [or abusive],

within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress thereby.


As has been discussed at length in this thread, the Public Order Act 1986 is extremely broadly worded. This is intentional and necessary. If you're absolutely certain that these protests were lawful, how far are you willing to take that principle? Do you believe that it is always lawful to hold a protest at a memorial gathering? Do you believe that (for instance) it would be lawful for a group of retired police officers to hold a counter-protest at a protest organised for someone who had been shot by a police officer? Do you believe that an anti-immigration group should be able to hold an anti-immigration protest at the funeral of an immigrant, or that a Christian group should be able to hold a protest at the funeral of a gay person?

People have a right to protest, but they also have a duty to consider whether that protest might be disorderly and whether that protest might cause harassment, alarm or distress. I certainly don't have the confidence to assert whether protesting against the monarchy in front of a group of people who are mourning the recent death of a monarch could reasonably be expected to cause alarm or distress; I'm quite happy to leave that as a matter for the courts.
>> No. 454266 Anonymous
16th September 2022
Friday 12:37 pm
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>>454263

I don't see a reason to be concerned about that, when she was also the queen through the period of this country's most left leaning governments when the country legitimately had full on socialism as well as through everything that came after. The evidence is there to see that the monarchy, as an institution, does recognise and respects the country's democracy; and indeed, that this country's democracy actually kind of works, unlike a lot of others. When we can be arsed to properly engage with it, anyway.

There's probably even an argument that having a monarch with an incentive to be well liked by his or her subjects would see them being a positive influence. Charles is a big environmentalist so I hear, so I wouldn't actually mind seeing him show up at the houses of parliament and twat Rees Mogg round the head with that sceptre for trying to bring back fracking.
>> No. 454267 Anonymous
16th September 2022
Friday 12:49 pm
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>>454266

It'll indeed be interesting if Charles keeps up his mum's policy of non-involvement in day-to-day politics, like he has pretty much promised. It doesn't seem like him, but let's wait and see.
>> No. 454268 Anonymous
16th September 2022
Friday 2:13 pm
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>>454267

He only seems bothered about homeopathy, organic farming and really fucking ugly architecture. I don't think we've got a great deal to worry about.
>> No. 454269 Anonymous
16th September 2022
Friday 2:19 pm
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>>454265

Mate even the police are agreeing the arrests were unlawful, you've not got a leg to stand on here.
>> No. 454270 Anonymous
16th September 2022
Friday 2:25 pm
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>>454268

https://www.insider.com/king-charles-iii-believes-in-homeopathy-despite-scientists-criticism-2022-9

>Charles once backed a company that treated cancer through fruit juice and coffee enemas.


Ah, the old coffee up the arse.

Good times.
>> No. 454271 Anonymous
16th September 2022
Friday 5:02 pm
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>> No. 454272 Anonymous
16th September 2022
Friday 5:14 pm
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Christ. Imagine what the queue would be like if Social distancing was still required.
>> No. 454273 Anonymous
16th September 2022
Friday 5:47 pm
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>>454272

Fag-packet maths says it would currently be somewhere between Dartford and Gravesend. Convenient for the Bluewater, I suppose.
>> No. 454274 Anonymous
16th September 2022
Friday 5:47 pm
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24 hours wait now.

And volunteers are handing out water, food and tissues.
>> No. 454275 Anonymous
16th September 2022
Friday 5:49 pm
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>>454274
How long before the first death is reported?
>> No. 454276 Anonymous
16th September 2022
Friday 6:30 pm
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>>454275
The Queue already has it's first sex pest.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-62932781
>> No. 454277 Anonymous
16th September 2022
Friday 6:38 pm
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Can we just leave her there, until eventually it ends up like the pilgrimage to Holy Terra?
>> No. 454278 Anonymous
16th September 2022
Friday 6:51 pm
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Even ARE BECKS joined the queue:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/sep/16/david-beckham-joins-queue-to-pay-tribute-to-queen

>Beckham, who queued for 13 hours, was appointed an OBE for services to football in June 2003 in the Queen’s birthday honours list.

All that, and he still had to queue like everybody.
>> No. 454279 Anonymous
16th September 2022
Friday 6:55 pm
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They're missing a trick here. We could probably fund the energy bill supplement if we introduced a fast-track system you have to pay for, like the rides at Disneyland.
>> No. 454280 Anonymous
16th September 2022
Friday 7:06 pm
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>>454278
He's desperate to be be knighted.
>> No. 454284 Anonymous
17th September 2022
Saturday 8:23 am
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One lad has been arrested for trying to approach the coffin. No idea if he was just emotional or a wronging yet. Imagine waiting almost a day just to end up in the nick.
>> No. 454285 Anonymous
17th September 2022
Saturday 8:33 am
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>>454284
Apparently he was actually able to touch the coffin.

A man's also been arrested for rubbing his knob on the back of a couple of women in the queue. All part of the glorious enrichment process.
>> No. 454288 Anonymous
17th September 2022
Saturday 10:16 am
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>>454285
First person to get their knob on the coffin wins. Something. Probably a beating.
>> No. 454295 Anonymous
17th September 2022
Saturday 12:06 pm
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Calling it now. Some dickhead is going to host a "Requeuenion" event next year.
>> No. 454297 Anonymous
17th September 2022
Saturday 12:07 pm
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>>454295

Fair's fair, that is a quality bit of wordplay.
>> No. 454300 Anonymous
17th September 2022
Saturday 12:22 pm
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>>454288
A meat beating.
>> No. 454301 Anonymous
17th September 2022
Saturday 1:57 pm
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The DM reports that there was a queue last night to join the queue for the queue. Yo dawg we heard u like queues

Also, outrage as Philipp Schofield and Holly Willoughby took the VIP express queue instead of the reguar one.

https://www.express.co.uk/celebrity-news/1670447/holly-willoughby-phillip-schofield-slammed-skipping-line-david-beckham-queen-westminster
>> No. 454302 Anonymous
17th September 2022
Saturday 1:59 pm
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>>454301

But is there a queue to join the queue to join the queue?

Really if you think about it all queues are fractal in nature. It's just a matter of where you draw the line.
>> No. 454303 Anonymous
17th September 2022
Saturday 2:05 pm
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The Queue now even has its own Wikipedia entry.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Queue
>> No. 454304 Anonymous
17th September 2022
Saturday 2:06 pm
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Can we all agree that this knobhead had it coming?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-62939586
>> No. 454307 Anonymous
17th September 2022
Saturday 2:30 pm
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>>454304

Bit excessive on the part of the police there. On the other hand, there was no telling at that moment if it was really just a benign mistake by the guy that he went down that road. There are security protocols when police are dealing with and trying to ensure the safety of a public figure, and they demand that potential threats are neutralised immediately.
>> No. 454308 Anonymous
17th September 2022
Saturday 3:06 pm
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>>454303
>The Queue (referred to more formally as the Lying-in-State queue and humorously as the Elizabeth line)
Lots of countries queue, so I've never been one to say "queuing is so British!", but calling it the Elizabeth Line is quite uniquely us. I don't know where else would do that. Australia, maybe?
>> No. 454309 Anonymous
17th September 2022
Saturday 3:15 pm
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>>454304
I don't like the monarchy at all, but yeah, I guess you can't just bomb towards Big Charlie and not expect to get tackled. However, if that bloke had committed a rollerskate borne drive-by assassination of the new king that would have been the funniest thing in modern British history.
>> No. 454310 Anonymous
17th September 2022
Saturday 3:25 pm
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>>454308

Australians are just Geordies with sunstroke.
>> No. 454311 Anonymous
17th September 2022
Saturday 3:37 pm
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>>454308

That would be the Lizzo Line.
>> No. 454312 Anonymous
17th September 2022
Saturday 3:43 pm
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I'm curious how long it'll take a real paper to use this pun, seen in the background of Children of Men.
>> No. 454313 Anonymous
17th September 2022
Saturday 3:49 pm
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>>454311

Yas.
>> No. 454314 Anonymous
17th September 2022
Saturday 4:06 pm
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Do we reckon when Charlie pegs it in 15 -20 years we will have half as much faff?
>> No. 454315 Anonymous
17th September 2022
Saturday 4:12 pm
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>>454314

I think the monarchy will go downhill with him, because whatever he does, he will never be as revered by so many people as ARE Lizard.

He should have passed the throne on to William. Having somebody much more youthful as King would have been a much needed shot in the arm for public morale in this country right now.
>> No. 454316 Anonymous
17th September 2022
Saturday 4:18 pm
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>>454314
We'll have forgotten what a big deal we made of this, and he'll get the usual standard dead-king mourning, like the Georges and Edwards got. Of course, the thing about having had the same Queen since 1952 is that I have no idea how sad everyone was then.

I think Charles will be a good king; he seems like quite a progressive and decent man. He will probably abdicate, come to think of it, rather than tough it out for the full quarter of a century that he's likely to live for. If he does that, then he definitely won't get the same level of public mourning because we'll all be yawning our way through charmless King William's reign of sterile okayness by that point. Nobody will give a shit when William V dies and Prince George or whoever becomes king.
>> No. 454317 Anonymous
17th September 2022
Saturday 5:01 pm
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>>454316

>We'll have forgotten what a big deal we made of this

Don't be so sure, at this rate I won't be surprised if we don't have annual commemorations from now on.

It is all a but daft but at the same time, she has literally been THE Queen for pretty much everybody's entire life.
>> No. 454318 Anonymous
17th September 2022
Saturday 5:36 pm
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>>454315
In an ideal world some machination would see Harry made king. The prodigal prince, the rogue king.
>> No. 454319 Anonymous
17th September 2022
Saturday 5:57 pm
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>>454316

>charmless King William's reign of sterile okayness

Well said. Was there ever a time when he allowed himself any kind of gaffe that would have tarnished his standing in the public's view? It's like all of the crazy went into Harry, and William only got the bland stuffiness traits from Charles and Philip.

The worst we've seen of William were self-deprecating jokes that didn't land. Which is one way to reign when his time comes, I guess.
>> No. 454320 Anonymous
17th September 2022
Saturday 6:12 pm
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>>454319
Maybe finally being made King he might go on a bender.
>> No. 454322 Anonymous
17th September 2022
Saturday 7:02 pm
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>>454319
>all of the crazy went into Harry, and William only got the bland stuffiness traits

Different Dads, innit.
>> No. 454323 Anonymous
17th September 2022
Saturday 8:19 pm
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>>454319
>Was there ever a time when he allowed himself any kind of gaffe that would have tarnished his standing in the public's view?
Officially, no, but unofficially, very much yes.
https://www.thelist.com/858828/why-the-rose-hanbury-affair-rumors-started-up-again-with-prince-williams-appearance-at-parliament/

And that's before we get into the rumours that he's into pegging:
https://www.thecut.com/2022/07/prince-of-pegging-trends-with-prince-william-affair-why.html
>> No. 454325 Anonymous
17th September 2022
Saturday 8:57 pm
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>>454319

Getting pegged by his extra-marital Mistress?
>> No. 454326 Anonymous
17th September 2022
Saturday 8:59 pm
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>>454319
Pegging an extra-marital Mistress while getting pegged by another?
>> No. 454331 Anonymous
17th September 2022
Saturday 9:59 pm
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>>454325

Allegedly, Kate doesn't like to strap it on so he has to go elsewhere to get his bum pleasured. Allegedly, she doesn't mind this arrangement. Allegedly.
>> No. 454334 Anonymous
17th September 2022
Saturday 10:48 pm
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>>454323

>rumours that he's into pegging

I mean, of all the preversions you'd expect from someone of such high social stature, pegging is really getting off the hook lightly. Never thought I'd have something in common with a royal either.
>> No. 454335 Anonymous
17th September 2022
Saturday 11:46 pm
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>>454323

> tabloids have made much of the story with one source insisting to the Daily Mail that William "has always had a roving eye."

Must be true then. The DM always only reports God's honest truth.
>> No. 454336 Anonymous
17th September 2022
Saturday 11:55 pm
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>>454334
That's the thing. It's much easier to believe he likes a spot of pegging than say, a rumor he likes to fart in jars.
>> No. 454337 Anonymous
18th September 2022
Sunday 12:13 am
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Liz was based

(A good day to you Sir!)
>> No. 454338 Anonymous
18th September 2022
Sunday 3:03 am
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>>454337

On what?
>> No. 454339 Anonymous
18th September 2022
Sunday 10:23 am
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>>454334

What about rumours he was getting bummed by his Dad's mate Jimmy Savile at an impressionable age and that's the reason he's into pegging now?
>> No. 454341 Anonymous
18th September 2022
Sunday 12:17 pm
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>>454339
I'd have thought Jim'll was more his uncle's mate.
>> No. 454342 Anonymous
18th September 2022
Sunday 12:25 pm
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>> No. 454343 Anonymous
18th September 2022
Sunday 12:27 pm
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>>454342
I guess maybe Sweaty wasn't the only quick response needer in that brood.
>> No. 454344 Anonymous
18th September 2022
Sunday 12:35 pm
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>>454341
Savile worked painstakingly on his relationship with Prince Charles, first through his charity work and then more informally. Astonishingly, he even managed to involve himself in Charles and Diana's personal affairs and defy the normal rules.

Richard Kay, former Royal Correspondent, says: "He inserted himself into their marriage in the way that he was someone who made himself available. And Charles liked having him around. He would turn up, Diana told me, at Kensington Palace, where she lived, uninvited and would manage to persuade the police on the, on the gate, who never let anyone in without an invitation, to walk in. She said he would sort of come and say, 'well, I'm just here just to check up on you'. And she said that Charles used to sort of quip, that If there was a problem that needed sorting out, they'll get Jim to do it because 'Jim'll fix it''. I think she found it slightly unnerving."

According to Kay, Savile would "walk in and drift around Diana's apartment", while also going into the office to kiss the hands of the secretaries, sometimes "rubbing his lips" up their arms. This is something he even carried out on Princess Diana," adds Kay. "He licked Princess Diana's hand and she recoiled from that. As she told me, it was something very creepy."

Arbiter describes some of Savile's acts as "unsavoury" and explains he didn't like the "ghastly" man from the start.

"I did voice it at the time saying it's not really on and I did say that man is dreadful," says the former Royal Press Secretary. "But he was pretty well established in government circles, with prime ministers of the day. And by being pretty well established, he was fairly untouchable."

In 1990, despite resistance from Whitehall, Savile finally got what he craved when he was given a knighthood. "It was a gi-normous relief when I got the knighthood," said Savile at the time. "Because it got me off the hook."


https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/jimmy-savile-manipulated-gullible-prince-25162410
>> No. 454345 Anonymous
18th September 2022
Sunday 1:46 pm
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>>454344

Paedos like Savile have a habit of inserting themselves into families because that is one way they acquire victims.

My dad was friends for decades with what could benignly be described as a lifelong confirmed bachelor who was a bit on the camp side. Apparently, he never talked about his sexuality, at all, and even after many years, my parents still had no clue if he was straight, gay or just asexual.

It wasn't known to us that he had a prior conviction for getting into his godchild's undies (this was before there were registers and SHPO orders). Anyway, he made himself available as the endearing family friend who was always there when needed, and who was somehow very good with us kids. It wasn't until he spent the night at our hose one time that he showed his true colours, because my dad caught him in the middle of unmistakably attempting to fondle my older brother late at night while he thought my parents were asleep.

My dad kicked him out right there and then in the middle of the night, telling him that if he promised we'd never see him again, he'd call him a cab, but if not, he'd call the police right away.

I guess my point is, paedos can be crafty. Always keep an eye on somebody who displays that kind of behaviour and tries to become the "family friend".
>> No. 454349 Anonymous
18th September 2022
Sunday 5:37 pm
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Liz Truss has now met both the Queen and King of England. Has any other PM managed this?
>> No. 454350 Anonymous
18th September 2022
Sunday 6:00 pm
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>>454349

Churchill was the last one.
>> No. 454353 Anonymous
19th September 2022
Monday 12:27 am
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>The Crown Estate and royal duchies oversee total assets of about £18.2 billion ($21 billion) with their values rising about 70% on average over the past decade, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. That largely mirrors rising land and property prices.
>> No. 454355 Anonymous
19th September 2022
Monday 3:11 am
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>>454353

>The Crown Estate

These assets are nominally owned by the Crown, but no member of the royal family can sell them or directly benefit from their ownership - the profits from the estate all go directly to the Treasury. The royal family receives an annual payment through the Sovereign Grant, nearly all of which is spent on maintaining and staffing the royal palaces. We have, in effect, nationalised the Royal Family.

If we decided to stop paying them the Sovereign Grant and make the royal family fend for themselves, we'd all get about £1.43 each per year. Much as I enjoy a Greggs sausage roll, I'm not sure that it represents a life-changing sum of money.

If we confiscated the lot and sold it off to Saudi princes or Russian oligarchs or whatever, we'd get a one-off payment of about £300 each. Again, hardly a life-changing sum. There are obvious risks attached to flogging off massive amounts of Britain to the highest bidder, especially considering that the Crown Estate includes practically all of the sea floor in our territorial waters.

You're welcome to argue that we should just get rid of the legal fiction of the Crown Estate and allow the government to take direct ownership, but I'd ask you to consider the probability that it'll all get flogged to Liz Truss's mates at a knock-down price.

Never tear down a fence unless you understand why it was built.
>> No. 454356 Anonymous
19th September 2022
Monday 10:34 am
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The funeral hasn't started yet, but it's been pretty cracking so far with all the interesting celebrities taking their seats. Rose Hanbury, the woman who bummed our next King, is there. Angela Rayner is there, and they've put her next to Iain Duncan Smith which must be exciting. Gordon Brown's wife would still get it.
>> No. 454357 Anonymous
19th September 2022
Monday 11:39 am
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"My own arrest was in 2011, on the day of William and Kate’s royal wedding. I had gone to Soho Square to ‘report’ on a Royal Zombie Flashmob I’d heard about, for a friend’s blog. (I was 25, had an extra day of bank holiday, and it sounded fun.) I wore a flower crown, misapplied some makeup for dark circles under my eyes & a gory mouth, & went into town with my camera and notebook to interview some ‘zombies’.

There were only five of us eejits in fancy dress, maybe 20 press people and countless police. When the police seemed to be forming a kettle, me and my four new friends left Soho Square, using the one road which was still open, and went into a Starbucks. We were still getting our drinks when two police vans turned up, sirens on, and around 20 cops came out. We were stopped and searched, held against the Starbucks window for ages, then eventually arrested and handcuffed for a ‘breach of the peace’."
An interesting article on the experience of a journalist arrested for dissent during the royal wedding. Key quote:
>The police will do what they want to do on the day, come up with a justification later, and the state machinery of courts and judges tends to agree with police arguments.
https://netpol.org/2022/09/19/anti-royal-arrests-the-after-effects/
>> No. 454358 Anonymous
19th September 2022
Monday 1:20 pm
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>>454355

>You're welcome to argue that we should just get rid of the legal fiction of the Crown Estate and allow the government to take direct ownership, but I'd ask you to consider the probability that it'll all get flogged to Liz Truss's mates at a knock-down price.

So it'd go from one set of posh cunts who had the right breeding to maybe a different set of posh cunts who have the right friends. That's a risk I'd be willing to take, though really besides the point, as the obvious implication of this sentiment, which you're failing to address would be that they'd remain state owned.
>> No. 454359 Anonymous
19th September 2022
Monday 3:21 pm
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>>454358

>That's a risk I'd be willing to take, though really besides the point, as the obvious implication of this sentiment, which you're failing to address would be that they'd remain state owned.

No, that's not the point at all. Currently, those assets aren't technically state owned, but the state has effective control over their operation and the state enjoys full benefit of their ownership. Posh cunts might own it in theory, but they don't actually enjoy any of the benefits of ownership.

If those assets were actually state-owned, they could be sold off and therefore cease to be state-owned; that sale wouldn't necessarily be at a fair market price and wouldn't necessarily be in the interests of the public. I'm sure you can think of plenty of examples of stuff that used to be state owned that is now very much not state owned.
>> No. 454360 Anonymous
19th September 2022
Monday 4:08 pm
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Challenge accepted.
>> No. 454369 Anonymous
19th September 2022
Monday 7:22 pm
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And that is pretty much that.
No doubt we'll end up with a memorial reflection silence every year or whatever.
>> No. 454370 Anonymous
19th September 2022
Monday 8:02 pm
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>>454369

I'm sure the media will still be milking all the highlights of the funeral for days. If not weeks, here and there.
>> No. 454371 Anonymous
19th September 2022
Monday 8:37 pm
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>>454369


>> No. 454373 Anonymous
19th September 2022
Monday 9:41 pm
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>>454370
Reckon they'll knock out a commemorative DVD set of the whole afair?
>> No. 454378 Anonymous
19th September 2022
Monday 11:08 pm
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Just heard today refered to as the Boohoohoobilee. Jesus
wept.
>> No. 454379 Anonymous
19th September 2022
Monday 11:14 pm
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>>454373

Wasn't there a 4K digital restoration of her coronation a while ago? They could package it with that.
>> No. 454380 Anonymous
19th September 2022
Monday 11:35 pm
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I've watched at least a few hours of funeral coverage today, and they didn't play Abide With Me at any point even though it's the best funeral hymn.

Meanwhile, that music that has been in the background for most of the day is, interestingly, called the "Beethoven Funeral March" despite not actually being by Beethoven. It's by Johann Heinrich Walch, who is unknown enough that people just assumed his funeral march was by Beethoven.


>> No. 454381 Anonymous
19th September 2022
Monday 11:35 pm
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>>454378

I honestly doubt there'll be as much faff when Charles kicks it. His popularity was iffy at best for a long time, and while there will no doubt be many royalists who won't care, he's not going to be that decades-spanning constant in people's lives.

If he takes after his mum, then he'll be a good 20 years on the throne still, but it won't be the same.

It also means that William will be 60 when he becomes king. Many people who are alive today will never know anything other than geriatric queens and kings for decades.
>> No. 454382 Anonymous
20th September 2022
Tuesday 1:32 am
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>>454381
I predicted above that Charles will eventually abdicate to give his son Prince William a chance to be king before he reaches retirement age. But if William will be in his late 50s when Charles is 90, that's barely worth it for bringing in young blood. I think maybe it would be better if they just skipped William altogether when the time comes, and go straight from Charles to Prince George.
>> No. 454383 Anonymous
20th September 2022
Tuesday 2:11 am
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>>454382

Elizabeth's unexpectedly long reign did screw up the arithmetic a bit. If she'd died 20 years ago at a reasonable age of 76 as a lot of people do, then Charles would already have been on the throne for 20 years today, and could have gone into retirement by now and left the kingship to his still slightly youthful son, whereas the role he has really trained all his life for only now begins as he's 73.

We'll probably need another scandalous early abdication or another untimely death to have a truly young king or queen again down the line. Both in conjunction were what gave us a 25 year old on the throne the last time around.
>> No. 454384 Anonymous
20th September 2022
Tuesday 3:43 am
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Relistening to this banging choon.
>> No. 454395 Anonymous
20th September 2022
Tuesday 12:07 pm
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>>454384


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD9g950Qqx0
>> No. 454398 Anonymous
20th September 2022
Tuesday 2:01 pm
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>>454395

>> No. 454399 Anonymous
20th September 2022
Tuesday 2:21 pm
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>>454398


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_tANTDu1-w

Imagine how that one went behind the scenes.

Jimmy: "So, you been bonking anybody underage lately?"

Gary: "Yeah, just got back from Cambodia and my knob's smoldering"

Jimmy: "Ah, you're living the life"
>> No. 454401 Anonymous
20th September 2022
Tuesday 9:18 pm
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>>454159
>Nobody has been cancelled yet for being insufficiently respectful, so everyone's starting to get a bit paranoid.

It looks like Phil and Holly will be the sacrificial lambs. Kind of funny that it isn't the alleged grooming that takes Schofield down, it's a bit of queue jumping.
>> No. 454402 Anonymous
20th September 2022
Tuesday 9:40 pm
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>>454401

>Kind of funny that it isn't the alleged grooming that takes Schofield down

He did maintain that whoever he groomed was 17 at the time. That's not an age for somebody like him to mess about with if we're being honest, but 17 is above the age of consent. So he's a bit of a wrongun, but what he did was not illegal.
>> No. 454403 Anonymous
21st September 2022
Wednesday 9:06 am
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So Andrew is now the Earl of Inverness.
Does that make him the Loch Ness carpet-baggerr?
>> No. 454404 Anonymous
21st September 2022
Wednesday 11:42 am
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>>454403
Scotland deserves to have him inserted into their titled nobility after all the bloody bagpipes during the Queen's funeral.
>> No. 454405 Anonymous
21st September 2022
Wednesday 12:53 pm
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>>454404
What I wanna know is why you'd give the corgis to Andrew. Might as well give them to Rolf Harris. I'm going to call the RSPCA.
>> No. 454406 Anonymous
21st September 2022
Wednesday 1:18 pm
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>>454405
Corgis are small dogs, and they say Andrew has a way with the little 'uns.
>> No. 454407 Anonymous
21st September 2022
Wednesday 2:47 pm
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>>454406

>and they say Andrew has a way with the little 'uns

Maybe he likes dogging, too.




I'll get my coat.
>> No. 454408 Anonymous
21st September 2022
Wednesday 2:48 pm
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>>454407

They'll be well groomed, at any rate.
>> No. 454409 Anonymous
21st September 2022
Wednesday 5:20 pm
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>>454408

Let's just hope he won't screw the pooch then.

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