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>> No. 461064 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 10:48 am
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>Man arrested over 'Manchester Arena bomber' costume

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-67294873

When did people not being able to take a dark joke become a crime?
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>> No. 461065 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 12:08 pm
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>Yorkshite
Glass the whole place already.
>> No. 461070 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 1:11 pm
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Not every dark joke is understood these days.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot5TgvvOYdA
>> No. 461071 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 1:38 pm
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At least they told us what the joke was and gave us a picture of the outfit. My absolute pet peeve nowadays is when there’s a news story that someone said something offensive, and the news refuses to say what it was. It makes it very hard to pass judgement on a group of football fans when they are arrested for singing a song I’m not allowed to hear.
>> No. 461074 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 1:55 pm
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>>461071
You mean like this?

>A 17-year-old boy has been charged over chants about the death of Sir Bobby Charlton which were filmed at a Manchester City match.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-67245144

A group of teenagers chanting "Bobby's in a box" is against the law, apparently.
>> No. 461077 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 2:15 pm
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Nice to see the people fighting for freedom speech against woke cancel culture mobs are also curtailing freedom of speech because it hurts feelings. Sensitive triggered police bastards.
>> No. 461078 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 2:25 pm
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>>461065

Did a Yorkshireman shag your bird or summat lad?
>> No. 461080 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 2:38 pm
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>>461078
It's just shit. There's nothing good about it.

>>461074
This probably has more to do with it being at a football match than what he said.
>> No. 461081 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 2:39 pm
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>>461077
I know we're generally trying to avoid discussing what's happening in Israel, but I find this kind of thing a bit frightening.

>Waving Palestinian flag may be a criminal offence, Braverman tells police

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/oct/10/people-supporting-hamas-in-uk-will-be-held-to-account-says-rishi-sunak
>> No. 461083 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 2:46 pm
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>>461081
While I'm not outright dismissing the harm this could cause, the Home Secretary can say what she likes, it doesn't necessarily make it so. See also, migrant crossings on the English Channel, being Prime Minister.

>The human rights barrister Shami Chakrabarti said “[that] the letter had been so readily press-released suggests that the intervention is at best the shipping forecast and at worst seeking to compromise operational independence”, adding: “Police chiefs know their powers and duties. Anxious and vulnerable minority communities are not made safer by the politicisation of policing in difficult and dangerous times.”
Yeah, what she said.
>> No. 461084 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 2:50 pm
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>>461081
That's like saying in response to the OP it's illegal to wear a backpack.
>> No. 461085 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 2:50 pm
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>>461080

Well, don't worry about it lad, she was a slag and you're better off without her anyway.
>> No. 461086 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 3:04 pm
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>>461085
No, it's your ex-gf who is a cheating slag. Haha, got you.
>> No. 461087 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 3:06 pm
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>>461077
>Sensitive triggered police bastards.
It's not the police though, is it? It's the regular people on the street who saw a person carrying a bag with BOOM TNT written on it with electrical wire running out.
The headline say's arrested, not charged - at this stage it's merely an investigation. Perhaps rightfully so - wouldn't Halloween be exactly the time for never-do-wells to sneak under the radar?
>> No. 461088 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 3:07 pm
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>>461086

Shouldn't talk about your mum like that Lancashirelad.
>> No. 461089 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 3:10 pm
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>>461088
I guess we can add "shit patter" to the long list of Yorkshire's sins.
>> No. 461090 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 3:20 pm
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>>461087
If someone blows up a bus with a device that appears to be a joke bomb but turns out to be real, I will hang them myself. They’ll be hung, drawn and quartered if it’s one of those round bombs with a fuse sticking out of the top. Humour is all we have in these trying times.
>> No. 461092 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 3:24 pm
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>>461081

Waving a Palestinian flag is already a criminal offence if the person waving it knows (or should reasonably be expected to know) that people seeing it would experience harassment, alarm or distress. That's a nuanced, subjective judgement that can only be made on a case-by-case basis by police officers, magistrates and juries.

That might seem draconian, but I think there are many obvious examples of where simply waving a national flag might be seriously and knowingly intimidatory. I don't think that the people defending pro-Palestine marches would be happy to see a bunch of people waving the Union Jack while marching through Bradford or Leicester.

As >>461083 suggests, the issue (as is so often the case) is with a Home Secretary making grandstanding statements in public rather than actually running their department.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1986/64/section/5
>> No. 461095 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 3:35 pm
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>>461092
How would a jury come to hear a public order case?
>> No. 461096 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 3:45 pm
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>>461092

The question that pretty obviously has to be asked is if anyone would even think for a moment about this quandary regarding somebody waving an Israeli flag.

I was thinking about this on my way home from the shops. There were a lot of blatantly neo-con warmongering ghouls banging the drum over Ukraine and Russia, but at least for once, it just so happened that the sides they wanted to portray as the big nasty baddies and the innocent little underdog actually lined up fairly well with reality. It seriously undermines that case for those people to move on, without even blinking, to paint Israel vs Hamas with that exact same rhetoric.

Personally I think it'd be better for everyone if we just banned any and all mention of Isreal or Palestine and sent anyone who brings it up at all to prison. I don't really give a fuck who wins in the conflict but at least it would stop either of the little bastard 2000 year old sand tribes from affecting our politics, when we've got plenty of problems of our own to worry about.
>> No. 461097 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 3:46 pm
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>>461095

Ordinarily they wouldn't hear an s.5 case, but summary offences can be tried at the crown court if they are heard alongside a relevant each-way or indictable offence.
>> No. 461098 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 4:58 pm
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>>461087
>It's the regular people on the street who saw a person carrying a bag with BOOM TNT written on it with electrical wire running out.

It was snowflakes getting offended on Facebook. The rest of his costume was a teatowel on his end and a t-shirt with 'I love Ariana Grande' crudely written on it.
>> No. 461099 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 5:43 pm
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>>461098
There are no snowflakes on Facebook, only sensible people who say what they mean and mean what they say and wear their "Be kind" flair while they complain about migrant boats.
>> No. 461102 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 8:54 pm
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>>461096
> I think it'd be better for everyone if we just banned any and all mention of Isreal or Palestine
I have thought myself that the best way to discuss this current war is to simply not mention Israel. Talk about it like Israel was an earthquake or a flood. "The Palestinians are really suffering as a result of this awful thing that's happening to them, but then, they did elect a government that actively supports [earthquakes]." It's like if the Maldives voted for a government that doesn't believe in climate change, then complained when their islands sank into the ocean. It's a disaster, of course, and it's awful that they're all dying, but there's plenty of schadenfreude to complicate things.
>> No. 461103 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 9:20 pm
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I wonder if half and half scarves for Israel and Palestine would be a viable business opportunity. Seems to work for football rivalries.
>> No. 461104 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 9:24 pm
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>>461102
>but then, they did elect a government that actively supports [earthquakes].
Only if you think Theresa May and Jeremy Corbyn fighting a brief civil war in the aftermath of the 2017 GE, ending with May never holding another election and killing people who spoke out, can be considered a legitimate democratic resolution. Also it's the year 2033 or thereabouts.

Someone just make a thread already.
>> No. 461105 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 9:47 pm
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>>461103

We'd need to gentrify the Middle East first. Could we convert Jerusalem to an all-seater configuration? Will Hamas be banned from international fixtures? I think the prawn sandwiches might get short shrift from the Jews.
>> No. 461106 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 10:06 pm
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>>461105
We should rig up a sound system around the area. Imagine the audience engagement if all the citizens of the region would chant along to Seven Nation Army every time something noteworthy happened.
>> No. 461118 Anonymous
3rd November 2023
Friday 7:09 pm
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>A gardener who "terrified" women in a Somerset village has been banned from writhing on the floor in an all-black bodysuit in public.

>Among the restrictions imposed, Hunt is now banned from:
>Being in possession of any type of mask or face covering in a public place, including whilst in a vehicle in a public place, between the hours of 21:00 and 06:00 unless officially required for medical purposes or by law.
>Wearing or being in possession of black all-in-one garments in a public place, including in a vehicle in a public place between the hours of 21:00 and 06:00.
>Crawling, wriggling or writhing on the ground in a public place whilst wearing a full-body covering, clothing that appears like a full body covering and/or mask/full face covering.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-67310389

You can't do nowt in this country anymore.
>> No. 461123 Anonymous
3rd November 2023
Friday 10:03 pm
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>>461118
These days you can't even say you're English without being arrested and thrown in jail.
>> No. 461127 Anonymous
4th November 2023
Saturday 3:06 am
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>>461118
I love how he claims he's still not actually a gimp.
>> No. 461201 Anonymous
7th November 2023
Tuesday 10:13 am
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>A former Metropolitan Police officer has been found guilty of sending an offensive racist message following a BBC Newsnight investigation.

>Michael Chadwell, 62, of Liss, Hampshire, was in a WhatsApp group with other former officers where numerous racist messages were shared. The men served in various parts of the Met Police but all spent time in the Diplomatic Protection Group.

>At City of London Magistrates' Court on Monday, Chadwell was found guilty of one count of sending by public communication grossly offensive racist messages. The court heard that he shared an image in the WhatsApp group in September 2022 that the prosecution described as "grossly offensive".

>The image showed parrots of different colours and children of different ethnicities. It read: "Why do we cherish the variety of colour in every species except our own?" And underneath, said: "Because I've never had a bike stolen out of my front yard by a parrot."

>Chadwell then sent the message "oops, not too woke", the court heard. On Monday, he told the court he thought the image was a "silly" joke and was "a bit like Monty Python". He added he thought "woke" meant "politically correct" but did not believe the message was racist or offensive.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67331657

I get that there's issues with The Met and dolphin rape, but it's a bit of a worry you can be convicted for sharing an offensive meme in a group WhatsApp. If that was the case then at least half the people I've worked with would have a criminal record.
>> No. 461213 Anonymous
7th November 2023
Tuesday 10:30 pm
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>>461201

Hate is a crime. Except for hating the Russians, with whom we have always been at war.
>> No. 461214 Anonymous
7th November 2023
Tuesday 11:11 pm
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>>461201

>it's a bit of a worry you can be convicted for sharing an offensive meme in a group WhatsApp

Something to bear in mind next time the Home Secretary is crowing about "more powers to tackle online hate".
>> No. 461215 Anonymous
8th November 2023
Wednesday 12:42 am
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>>461201
Nah. They should have cut his hands off, treated the wounds, then shoved the severed hands up his arse and stitched it shut, so that the rot kills him.
>> No. 461216 Anonymous
8th November 2023
Wednesday 1:59 am
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>>461215
That's both offensive and hilarious. You're fired.
>> No. 461217 Anonymous
8th November 2023
Wednesday 4:28 am
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>>461201
If anyone should be punished for carrying on like that it's the police.
>> No. 461218 Anonymous
8th November 2023
Wednesday 4:31 am
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>>461215

Bit old style, eh.

Don't you miss the days when blasphemers got their tongues cut out.
>> No. 461219 Anonymous
8th November 2023
Wednesday 7:20 am
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>>461217
Why?
>> No. 461220 Anonymous
8th November 2023
Wednesday 9:39 am
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>>461217

Serving police officers should rightly be held to very high standards, because they hold powers that can easily be misused. Those standards would include limits on their right to freedom of expression that would otherwise be contrary to their rights under Article 9 of the Human Rights Act - You can be a copper, you can say whatever you like, but you can't do both.

However, the people in this case weren't serving police officers, they were retired. The decision to prosecute them doesn't root out any bad apples, it doesn't protect the public, it's just empty symbolism. It reveals the fact that, while freedom of expression is nominally a human right, under English law it is increasingly treated as a privilege. A private conversation between friends can be a crime if someone might be offended by it, even if nobody actually was offended. Repeating those private remarks verbatim in a national newspaper isn't an offence, for reasons I can only really understand as "know your place, proles".
>> No. 461540 Anonymous
27th November 2023
Monday 9:09 pm
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>Two football fans were arrested during Birmingham’s home match with Sheffield Wednesday for alleged whale poacheric chanting towards referee Rebecca Welch.

>“We have arrested two boys for whale poacheric chanting at the female referee during Birmingham City’s home game at St Andrew’s today,” a statement from West Midlands police read. “Our officers heard the chants being directed at the official and acted quickly to arrest the two, who are both 17. They are currently in custody on suspicion of a public order offence as we carry out enquiries. We don’t tolerate any form of hate and it is important hate crime is reported to us.”

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/nov/25/arrests-after-alleged-whale poacheric-chanting-to-referee-at-birmingham

Apparently they were chanting that she has chlamydia.

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