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>> No. 12398 Anonymous
6th June 2020
Saturday 1:31 am
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What's your opinion of Spotify and its premium version?

I used to run the free version with adblock years ago but then forgot about it because everything is on youtube or otherwise downloadable. Now it seems like everyone has an account so I'm wondering if I'm missing something.
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>> No. 12399 Anonymous
6th June 2020
Saturday 1:42 am
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As a musician I'd rather you just pirate my music and maybe buy a t-shirt or something. Spotify is a shakedown operation by exactly the sort of sleazy industry executive middle-men they posture themselves as an alternative to. Three different companies take a cut of my money in order to get it on there.

It's not just about my profits, you understand. Spotify is a very convenient service that solves all the problems of discovering music and acquiring it in one handy package, but I feel their dominance is harmful. I'd very much prefer it if you didn't give them any revenue.
>> No. 12400 Anonymous
6th June 2020
Saturday 2:14 am
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>>12399
It costs $20/year tops to get on Spotify and that's without the aggregator taking a penny of your royalties.
>> No. 12401 Anonymous
6th June 2020
Saturday 2:17 am
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Pay for physical, pirate the rest. That goes for both music and film.
>> No. 12402 Anonymous
6th June 2020
Saturday 2:21 am
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I cancelled my decade-long Spotify subscription after buying a Chord Mojo/Poly on the cheap. Now I just rip CDs to a microSD... or pirate a FLAC if the CD is rare or hard to come by.

Organising a music library is also quite relaxing, I find.
>> No. 12403 Anonymous
6th June 2020
Saturday 3:33 am
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I primarily use it to discover new stuff. I really liked last.fm when that was around to do the same thing but then of course, they got gobbled up by the Spotify conglomerate.
>> No. 12404 Anonymous
6th June 2020
Saturday 3:35 am
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The algorithm that builds the "discover weekly" playlist is freakishly brilliant.
>> No. 12405 Anonymous
6th June 2020
Saturday 8:07 am
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I've had premium for about ten years, and paired with unlimited mobile data, it is very much worth it. There's an argument to be made it's not that ethical - artists don't get a great deal out of it, but for me, I wouldn't have listened to these artists at all if it wasn't for spotify. Their algorithm and other features make it so very easy to discover new music, which as I get older feels more and more important to me.

I'd recommend it.
>> No. 12406 Anonymous
6th June 2020
Saturday 8:42 am
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>>12405
Pretty much what this lad says.

I would never buy a CD, so getting something and actually being introduced to their music through the recommended and through random playlists is probably a bonus.

I used to use the free version as a uni student (I actually signed up when you basically got premium for free when it first came out and there were rarely ads).

Anyway it's great. I can link it up with google home, download playlists from it to my running watch, have playlists on the go on my laptop or phone, download them for offline use, download podcasts for offline use, couple of quid a month. It's incredible when you know you have a flight (remember them?) or similar and you just whack the download button on a few podcasts and use them to soothe you through.

It's like paying for a radio but with things I actually want to listen to and no filler.
>> No. 12408 Anonymous
6th June 2020
Saturday 10:51 am
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I used it for a while when I had the student discount but stopped after a few months.

I used to listen to kerrang, then when their radio station went to shit I started listening to planet rock, then that went bump and I started listening to teamrock, then they switched to internet radio only so I had to listen to it with my phone plugged into the aux in in my car until they eventually went bump too.

Next I was stuck with mp3s because every other radio station DAB or internet radio is garbage. But it gets boring listening to the same stuff too often and morality aside pirating music and taking the time to upload to sd cards is a faff.
So I'm back on spotify now, and yes I think it's worth it. The algorithms are pretty good although I miss having radio presenters to throw in something completely off the wall sometimes.

>but I feel their dominance is harmful
They haven't exactly got a monopoly, they're fighting off competition from amazon music, apple music, youtube/google, and a few others.
If spotify went bust, I'm sure the music industry would be far worse off with distribution solely in the hands of the 3 tech giants.
>> No. 12409 Anonymous
6th June 2020
Saturday 11:04 am
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>>12405
All of this.

I pay for Premium because its easier than moving around/handling a large vinyl/CD/downloaded collection. I'm not a fancy audiophile anymore and my ears are fucked, so I can cope with the lesser streaming qualities. As an old person, who isn't up to date with the music scene, their algorithms at showing me modern things I would like is spookily accurate.

Have the family pack too.
>> No. 12410 Anonymous
6th June 2020
Saturday 11:36 am
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>>12405

>artists don't get a great deal out of it

Spotify pay out about 70% of their revenues as royalties, but the majority of their users don't pay a subscription and bring in absolutely piffling amounts of money. There's absolutely no reason to feel guilty about paying for Spotify.
>> No. 12411 Anonymous
6th June 2020
Saturday 11:39 am
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>>12408

>They haven't exactly got a monopoly, they're fighting off competition from amazon music, apple music, youtube/google, and a few others.

Sure, just like BP don't have a monopoly on oil, there's a dozen other evil megacorps to shaft you in their place. I get that they're providing people with exactly what they want, so I'm not faulting anyone for using what they're offering. I'd just encourage anyone who's serious about music to think about being more direct with how they obtain their collection.

I say it's harmful overall because as shite as the way the old music industry was, at least you had artists focusing on being artists. You got a big fuckoff loan from some executive who directly reamed your arsehole in person and made you their bitch. Nowadays musicians are dividing their time between being youtubers, teachers, gigging, and commodifying their whole life on social media in order to scrape a living; every one of those companies wants a share of your arsehole, and none of them has a big enough cock to get you off.

Anyway whatever. Thank fuck I have a real job instead.
>> No. 12412 Anonymous
6th June 2020
Saturday 11:50 am
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Mods need to get a grip on this giant advert of a wesbite. Big Streaming have now also moved in it seems.
>> No. 12413 Anonymous
6th June 2020
Saturday 12:13 pm
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>>12408

>The algorithms are pretty good although I miss having radio presenters to throw in something completely off the wall sometimes.

I swear they used to generate a playlist that was basically this, but it doesn't seem to exist now.
>> No. 12414 Anonymous
6th June 2020
Saturday 12:36 pm
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>>12412
>Big Streaming

Which streaming service has Malcolm in the Middle?
>> No. 12508 Anonymous
29th September 2020
Tuesday 7:08 am
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There’s a lotta music that just doesn’t outright exist on Spotify. More often than not I am force fed Spotify’s algorithms with a lack of variety.
Tempted to ditch it and start collecting new music off obscure Bandcamp artists.
>> No. 12509 Anonymous
29th September 2020
Tuesday 9:09 am
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>What's your opinion of Spotify?
Nerver used it and don't intend to. Digital media feels far too vulnerable to corruption. I'd rather have a physical copy.
>> No. 12510 Anonymous
29th September 2020
Tuesday 9:22 am
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>>12509
Can't bribe an LP!
>> No. 12511 Anonymous
29th September 2020
Tuesday 1:32 pm
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Incidentally if you want to support artists you like, many of whom are unable to gig and so on due to the rona, Bandcamp are waiving their artist fees, so 100% of the money goes to the artist.

Spotify are still robbing bourgie bastards.
>> No. 12512 Anonymous
29th September 2020
Tuesday 1:35 pm
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>>12401
This and >>12508. Never found Spotify to be worth the money for me personally, and I'd rather support the artists directly. Bandcamp is awesome.
>> No. 12513 Anonymous
29th September 2020
Tuesday 1:47 pm
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How odd is it for people to collect physical media these days? I got some odd looks from co-workers when I told them I still bought DVD/Blu-Ray, I'm only 29 so the age gap isn't that big. I have just got into Laserdisc though, I'll admit that's a bit mental.

Streaming is fine as a rental alternative but selection is limited, even with all the platforms combined.
>> No. 12514 Anonymous
29th September 2020
Tuesday 1:52 pm
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>>12513
For audio and movies I prefer digital but for books I prefer physical.
It's always nice to have a proper nice looking bookshelf in your house and just looking at a book will bring back memories of it. You don't really get the same effect with a file on a harddrive.
>> No. 12515 Anonymous
29th September 2020
Tuesday 2:55 pm
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>>12514
You obviously don't have many books. Wait until you have hundreds/thousands and have to move house. I have/had hundreds of the buggers, and have completely moved over to Kindle - just makes sense.
>> No. 12516 Anonymous
29th September 2020
Tuesday 7:09 pm
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>>12515

This lad gets it.

I have a bunch of old/rare/signed/first edition/out of print etc books at my mum's place, and a shoe box full of books I just can't be without that I lug around with me whenever I move house/city/country/continent. Other than that if I can't get it for my Kindle I either don't bother or I buy it with the express idea that I'll read it, take a bunch of notes on it, and probably give it away.
>> No. 12517 Anonymous
29th September 2020
Tuesday 7:23 pm
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>>12516
>take a bunch of notes on it, and probably give it away

You monster!
>> No. 12518 Anonymous
29th September 2020
Tuesday 7:30 pm
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>>12517

If you don't like other people's marginalia, you don't really like books.
>> No. 12520 Anonymous
29th September 2020
Tuesday 11:11 pm
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>>12517
>>12518

I actually meant on as in about not on as in in but also somewhat agree re marginalia. Scribblings and finding old train tickets and shop receipts and that used as book marks are part of the charm of charity shop books imo.
>> No. 14140 Anonymous
18th November 2023
Saturday 4:24 pm
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Has music piracy died? I feel like I will actually have to get Spotify premium now because I can't find the albums I want and if I do it takes far more work than it used to unless I'm going after a big name in music.

Still feel very uncomfortable with it of course. Being tied to files that live on someone else's computer and who will curate for me. At least it's not television streaming and you can get almost everything you want from one service.
>> No. 14141 Anonymous
18th November 2023
Saturday 4:28 pm
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>>14140

Not at all, I think nowadays you just have to find the right trackers for the genre you like. I use one for metal that basically gets any new release ripped straight off bandcamp etc and thrown up within hours, so they must automate it somehow. I checked when my own band released our album and it was there the same day.
>> No. 14205 Anonymous
15th January 2024
Monday 3:51 pm
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I've had Spotify premium for about a month now, as part of a family plan as I wouldn't bother with it just for myself. So far it seems to be worse than YouTube for recommending new music to me; I assume it will get better over time but so far it seems to be almost entirely "here are a bunch of bands you'd never listen to because you can't stand them."
>> No. 14210 Anonymous
17th January 2024
Wednesday 11:17 am
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>>14205
I've had a similar experiance but being a superhacker I bought a giftcard for myself that saved about £30.

The thing I've noticed is that I often still use Youtube for music just because it feels more like what I want compared to Spotify. I think it's partly that Youtube has a better UI and a clearer landing page showing you a range of specific tracks to listen to on a given session rather than rationing it into a once a week playlist. Plus sometimes you just don't want to listen to a whole album, not when I'm at home at least.
>> No. 14211 Anonymous
17th January 2024
Wednesday 12:39 pm
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>>14210
The recommendations seem completely pulled out of their arse.

During the past month I've mainly listened to RATM, Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath, Rammstein, Videoclub, Stevie Wonder, James Brown, Gerry Cinnamon and Everything Everything. It's recommending to me The Ting Tings, Fountains of Wayne, Eagles of Death Metal and The White Stripes.

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