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>> No. 12985 Anonymous
15th November 2021
Monday 12:11 am
12985 What you feeling right now? Part VI: The Undiscovered Compilation

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>> No. 13315 Anonymous
30th August 2022
Tuesday 1:44 am
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>>13314

Ahh, glam rock is kind of cheating really though, it doesn't count if they're practically in drag anyway. It has to be natural.

Burke Shelley out of Budgie had it in his younger days mind, in that "shy nerdy girl who reads Michael Moorecock novels" kind of way.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54H3EUAzpVg

Maybe I'm just projecting and need a wank now though.
>> No. 13316 Anonymous
30th August 2022
Tuesday 11:30 am
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>>13313

I think David Gilmour is equally gifted as a guitar player, although his style is markedly different.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOyk5qnamjc

The second guitar solo at the end of "Comfortably Numb" is widely regarded as one of the best solos ever created. And I would agree.

Also, while a lot of people moan about recent 4K remasters of classic music videos, I think this one turned out quite well.


>>13314

>Once upon a time, people who hated gender-bending pop stars saw it as just another symptom of a society in an endless decline towards Sodom and Gomorrah

I was a weelad in the 80s when Culture Club had their heyday, and it's hard for young people today to get an idea what kind of an impact Boy George's genderfluid, flamboyant homosexual persona had. Not few in the older generation were completely apoplectic and wanted to have him banned from TV entirely, or failing that, have him put in some kind of gulag to get all that sissy boy stuff out of him.

Nowadays, you could obviously say that he was decades ahead of his time.
>> No. 13317 Anonymous
30th August 2022
Tuesday 11:50 am
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>>13316

>Also, while a lot of people moan about recent 4K remasters of classic music videos, I think this one turned out quite well.


ok scrap that, I just watched it on my big TV screen, and it looks awful. All of the charm of the original 35mm film print is gone, it basically looks like they filmed it yesterday using a low-grade HD camera. It takes away the authenticity of it in a certain way.

I see the problem that many people have with these remasters.
>> No. 13318 Anonymous
30th August 2022
Tuesday 12:12 pm
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>>13313
You can very clearly see which way he dresses.
>> No. 13319 Anonymous
30th August 2022
Tuesday 12:13 pm
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The best (and only) song about falling in love with an effeminate glam rocker.
>> No. 13320 Anonymous
30th August 2022
Tuesday 12:35 pm
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>>13316

Gilmour is definitely one of the legends, very big personal influence for me actually, but in truth his playing style is quite conventional honestly. It's all pretty standard blues scale stuff with big long bends, rooted in that era of music where guitarists were just making the jump between BB King and Jimi Hendrix.

With Knopfler, what's impressive is that he has a quite unusual fingerpicking style that you'd normally hear in country or folk. He's picking the strings not just independently with his fingers, but sometimes with totally independent rhythms. I can't think of another player who does that for rock music. The dude has some serious chops, he just doesn't play the kind of big flashy solos that would get him recognised for it. And that's why I find it so weird that Dire Straits are almost totally shit.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG__SwkV3wg

Where Gilmour's work is pioneering (as is Floyd in general) is just achieving the effects and huge soundscapes they did, considering the technology of the time was so comparably primitive. Even their really early stuff does the kind of thing modern artists do by looping and manipulating samples, only achieved manually, in the late 60s. Lightyears ahead of their time.

Especially playing live- It's easy to forget they didn't have any AxeFX Quad Cortex Helix processors to take care of everything back then (although I suspect Gilmour might have been one of the people who pioneered wet/dry rigs, basically using multiple amps so you can blend the "clean" sound with effects at different levels), so they had to work for those sounds. People think Dave Gilmour's set up must have been crazy and complex, but he basically just had a couple of HiWatt heads, a Binson EchoRec and a Big Muff, and a lot of creativity.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TToiePXjuR8
>> No. 13321 Anonymous
30th August 2022
Tuesday 12:54 pm
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>>13320

>Even their really early stuff does the kind of thing modern artists do by looping and manipulating samples, only achieved manually, in the late 60s. Lightyears ahead of their time.

I think that is also why Pink Floyd's music from that time sounds so authentic. You don't need to understand the finer points of sound editing to notice that an analog production sounds vastly different from most digital setups as they are used today.

One of the last artists to celebrate analog sound before the digital age was Lenny Kravitz on his 1991 album Mama Said. It was recorded entirely on analog instruments and equipment and has a unique warm acoustic feel which, at least in the beginning of digital sound processing in the early 90s, couldn't have been achieved using digital technology. From what a friend told me, there are nowadays many filter plugins for studio workstations that let you simulate analog sound, but they're apparently not quite the same if you have a frame of reference how analog sound actually sounded in the 70s and early 80s.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmENMZFUU_0
>> No. 13322 Anonymous
30th August 2022
Tuesday 1:28 pm
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>>13321

I'd imagine there's some money to be made these days opening a very hipster "all analogue" recording studio. Lots of musicians are snobs about using all analogue vintage-style (if not genuinely antique) guitars and amps and what have you, but when they get into the studio it's all going through ProTools with a set of expensive Waves plugins anyway.

I suppose the trouble with that is nobody in the industry has the skills required to operate the old gear nowadays, and buying miles and miles of tape for your sessions must really eat into your margins. Plus it's an almost completely pointless exercise because most people are listening through digital mediums now, so only the handful of hardcore audiophiles buying your limited 100 print vinyl at the end of it will truly get to appreciate all the effort.
>> No. 13323 Anonymous
30th August 2022
Tuesday 3:34 pm
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>>13322

Also, youngsters these days don't really invest in hi fi equipment anymore like our generation used to do, where a modular home audio system was pretty much a young teenlad's first serious investment that could cost you well over 500 quid. In late 80s, early 90s money, when that meant something. Or close to £1,000 in today's money.

My mates and I used to spend hours frequenting hi-fi shops and reading magazines, keeping up on the latest top of the line home stereo components, which we couldn't realistically afford anyway. So that when you finally had the money together for a mid-range Yamaha tape deck, you knew it was never going to be as good as the Nakamichi you were having wet dreams about.

Nowadays, just look at all the tiny £200 Bluetooth boom boxes that younguns have with them when they hang about at the park or beach. They make an improbably bass heavy, rich sound, but you don't have to listen all that closely to realise that it has nothing to do with high fidelity as you and I would understand it. And that is their frame of reference how music should sound. You can easily create entire albums with digital equipment that cater to that kind of sound, but again, it's not like it used to be.
>> No. 13324 Anonymous
30th August 2022
Tuesday 4:06 pm
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>>13322

>I'd imagine there's some money to be made these days opening a very hipster "all analogue" recording studio.

Sadly not, but some people are still keeping the flag flying. Probably the greatest example is Steve Albini's Electrical Audio - a purpose-built facility designed specifically for no-nonsense rock recordings. It's only viable because Steve bankrolled it as a passion project. They charge $450/day for the small room and $650/day for the big room, which might just barely cover their costs.

If they were in it for the money, they'd just sell off all the gear to collectors - their microphone collection alone is probably worth the best part of two million quid.

A 2500ft reel of 2" tape currently costs £315, which holds either 33 minutes or 17 minutes of audio depending on how much treble you want. Large-format analogue mixing consoles are increasingly endangered, because they have much more value if they've been chopped up. Hardly anyone has the space or the inclination to keep a whole console in working order, but a lot of people will pay good money for a single channel strip as an input for their DAW.


>> No. 13325 Anonymous
30th August 2022
Tuesday 4:24 pm
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>>13317

They've clearly used some kind of AI upscaling from a standard definition video rather than telecineing the original film print. The image is really contrasty and over-sharpened, it has the illusion of detail, but there's no real texture and no film grain.

Music videos tended to be shot on 16mm, which is inherently grainier than 35mm but has a wonderfully filmic look. You know when you're looking at 16mm, because it doesn't look like anything else and you can't really fake it.



I was listening to some old pirate radio recordings the other day and the thought occurred to me that I actually miss getting slightly bad reception. Obviously it was annoying to be fiddling about with your aerial, but you had the sense that you were listening to something live and direct. Every time the signal dropped out when you were going about town, it was a reminder that you were listening to a signal coming straight from a tower block. The experience wasn't being mediated by some massive American tech company and a load of incomprehensible fibre-optic gubbins, just an aerial on a rooftop and a hand-made transmitter in an old Quality Street tin.

You couldn't hear the station around the world, you couldn't even hear it on the other side of town. It was your station for your ends. If nobody had a C90 rolling, what you were hearing would be lost forever, surviving only in the memories of people who were tuned in at that precise moment. Legendary sets weren't uploaded to Soundcloud, they were passed from hand to hand as fourth-generation copies on hand-labelled cassettes. Obviously nobody would want to go back, but pirate radio fostered a sense of community that's impossible to replicate online.


>> No. 13326 Anonymous
30th August 2022
Tuesday 4:28 pm
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>>13325

I buggered up the embeds there - the Last Christmas video was obviously shot on 35mm. Let's see if I can successfully copy and paste the right link...


>> No. 13327 Anonymous
30th August 2022
Tuesday 4:36 pm
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>>13325

I've never gone out of my way to listen to jungle (or DnB in general) in my life, but it's a genre I feel completely intimately familiar with thanks to what seems like every single PS1 and early PS2 game having it in the soundtrack.
>> No. 13328 Anonymous
30th August 2022
Tuesday 5:08 pm
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>>13324

>A 2500ft reel of 2" tape currently costs £315, which holds either 33 minutes or 17 minutes of audio depending on how much treble you want

And what about the long term availability of studio-quality magnetic tape?

On the end user market, nearly all the varieties of compact cassette audio tape available today are pretty horrible compared to the mid- to late 90s when audio tape was at its technological peak. Chrome and metal tapes are no longer made at all, you can only get new Type I tapes. A fact which is reflected in the price of new old stock tapes on eBay, where a brand-name chrome C90 from the late 80s to early 90s will now cost you upwards of £6.

But I guess when you look at the few and far between tape decks that are still produced today, you have no way of making use of the superior sound quality of chrome and metal. Those new tape decks are usually built around a cheap third-party Chinese mechanism (I think there's really only one manufacturer left in the whole world who keeps making them). Any Japanese deck from the early 90s in good nick will offer you better build and sound quality.
>> No. 13329 Anonymous
30th August 2022
Tuesday 5:56 pm
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>>13325

>Music videos tended to be shot on 16mm, which is inherently grainier than 35mm but has a wonderfully filmic look. You know when you're looking at 16mm, because it doesn't look like anything else and you can't really fake it.


The Wall was filmed on 35mm though. And it, too, has a certain kind of look. It offers more realism than 16mm, while still having that "period" feel to it.

"Last Christmas" is an example of a 4K remaster which worked quite well. I think it has to do with the fact that they greatly adhered to the colour grading of the original and were careful with motion interpolation between frames.

The worst time for music videos was probably the late 80s to mid-90s when budget music videos were increasingly shot on standard definition first-generation CCD video cameras. They offered some improvements over tube cameras, but the technology wasn't quite developed enough yet. Whereas video filmed with tube cameras from the late 70s to early 80s had its own kind of endearing quality. Maybe because it is so instantly recognisable as being from that period.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNEdxZURTaI
>> No. 13330 Anonymous
2nd September 2022
Friday 9:35 am
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET1-6Bef9xU
>> No. 13331 Anonymous
2nd September 2022
Friday 9:36 am
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>>13330

I've pretty much been listening to this on loop this week. I love it.
>> No. 13332 Anonymous
2nd September 2022
Friday 10:51 am
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhbpKfmuVe4

Pretty gripping version of the Verve classic.


Also -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLs-JP5FGAg
>> No. 13333 Anonymous
6th September 2022
Tuesday 7:23 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0hbnqKdPZw

One of Stock/Aitken/Waterman's very early works from 1985.

Before they found their one size fits all formula and milked it to death.
>> No. 13334 Anonymous
7th September 2022
Wednesday 4:29 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9XrWB-u1vc
>> No. 13335 Anonymous
7th September 2022
Wednesday 4:30 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7dT_rFnd1o
>> No. 13336 Anonymous
7th September 2022
Wednesday 4:44 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkSBnuegSao
>> No. 13337 Anonymous
7th September 2022
Wednesday 5:04 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWRQ6_yrjrs
>> No. 13338 Anonymous
7th September 2022
Wednesday 8:52 pm
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>>13337
I can't believe you'd post a shortened version. Okay, so the last couple of minutes of the full one aren't really necessary, but it's meant to sound epic and being long really adds to that.


>> No. 13339 Anonymous
7th September 2022
Wednesday 9:42 pm
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>>13338

Not a whole lot happens for the first few minutes of that long version, so I prefer the shorter version. Or at least the second half of the long version, which is what I ended up putting in the music folder on my phone, using Audacity to cut it.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_GnpRw_YWE
>> No. 13340 Anonymous
8th September 2022
Thursday 6:59 pm
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>> No. 13342 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 8:29 pm
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>> No. 13343 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 10:23 pm
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I had this stuck in my head for about two weeks, but couldn't remember for the life of me what it actually was. I warn you, it's very catchy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOnmjN67Oxo
>> No. 13344 Anonymous
9th September 2022
Friday 10:59 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyetwgVoUSI
>> No. 13345 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 4:59 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnjSkmMdm34
>> No. 13347 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 8:12 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wkuqRFXNvI

With the distance of all those years, it's kind of beautiful in its own right, perhaps the best song they ever did.
>> No. 13348 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 8:49 pm
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>>13347
Distance schmistance. It has always been my favourite Spice Girls song. Thank you for reminding me of it.
>> No. 13351 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 9:53 pm
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>>13348

Well it was bitter sweet at the time for me, because it was released not long after my first serious girlfriend broke up with me, and then whenever it was on the radio or on MTV, which was almost constantly, I was weeping a bit inside. But yeah, today it's just a very nice song from a bygone era to me.

Fuck, I'm old. It came out 24 years ago.
>> No. 13352 Anonymous
14th September 2022
Wednesday 10:22 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoWed6iNlrs

With the right set of speakers, you could tear the house down with this song's intro.
>> No. 13353 Anonymous
15th September 2022
Thursday 2:24 pm
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Say You'll Be There is probably the best Spice Girls song.
>> No. 13355 Anonymous
20th September 2022
Tuesday 1:44 am
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This was a clue on Only Connect earlier. I'd have got the question right if I could remember what this was, but alas I drew a blank and thought it was something completely different.


>> No. 13356 Anonymous
20th September 2022
Tuesday 10:15 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK3ISATxFtg

This nails mid-80s Top 40 sound to a T. And yet, a bit difficult to place, definitely 1984 to 1988, not Trevor Horn, not quite Stock/Aitken/Waterman either. Pre-HiNRG, but not by much. The closest song I can think of off the top of my head is Hey Music Lover by S'Express, mixed with some Italo Disco or German (non-Kraftwerk) synthpop stabs.

Good Linn drum claps though.

The hair and outfit on the pretend record sleeve are pretty much nicked 1:1 from Kim Wilde in the video to The Second Time. Only thing they changed is they photoshopped the front of it to be purple instead of turquoise.
>> No. 13357 Anonymous
20th September 2022
Tuesday 10:23 pm
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>>13356
The start has a real vibe of New Order - Bizarre Love Triangle to it. Otherwise, maybe Stacey Q - Two of Hearts? That's a banger, whether it sounds like yours or not.


>> No. 13358 Anonymous
20th September 2022
Tuesday 11:01 pm
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>>13357

also, I just found this -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALWzQUIENdc

This would have been ahead of the curve in 1982. Most of euro disco didn't sound like this until 1984. At a push, 1983.
>> No. 13359 Anonymous
21st September 2022
Wednesday 3:34 am
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLLQFLXz6VE
>> No. 13360 Anonymous
21st September 2022
Wednesday 5:26 am
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What happened to the 90s trend of hot chicks making moody songs? My memory is fucked but it feels like this kind of shit made up at least 25% of what I'd hear on the radio or see on MTV back then.
>> No. 13361 Anonymous
21st September 2022
Wednesday 5:28 am
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>>13359

PKJ needs to ring the Samaritans or something. Nice to see that Norman respects consent.

Can't wait for the new Norman Pain drop tomorrow.
>> No. 13362 Anonymous
21st September 2022
Wednesday 5:29 am
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>>13360

Wasn't that basically reborn as Dido, then Amy Winehouse, then Adele? I expect there'll always be a market for music for single women to drink gin to.
>> No. 13363 Anonymous
21st September 2022
Wednesday 5:48 am
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>>13362
Dido seemed like the last gasp, at least as far as mainstream radio exposure is concerned. The other two aren't attractive and they're more soul tribute acts than Authentically Moody.
>> No. 13364 Anonymous
21st September 2022
Wednesday 4:14 pm
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>>13363

Dido peaked with the Love Actually soundtrack. Throw in White Flag maybe for good measure. After that, it was all middle aged dinner party music. Even the rest of the album Life For Rent was pretty underwhelming.
>> No. 13369 Anonymous
21st September 2022
Wednesday 7:47 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_42p66WeM0

One of Tim Simenon's less known Bomb the Bass tracks, but also from the album Into The Dragon, which featured Beat Dis.
>> No. 13371 Anonymous
21st September 2022
Wednesday 8:47 pm
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>>13360
I always lump Possession in with the works of Christian rock singer Plumb, because they both had dance remixes that came out around the same time (2001-ish) which I really loved. And they blended in perfectly with all the other vocal trance of the time, even though in both cases, they're pounding remixes of incredibly inappropriate songs. Possession took its lyrics from love letters written to Sarah McLachlan by a deranged stalker (he sued her when he found out she'd plagiarised his words, then killed himself when it transpired she wouldn't actually be at the trial), and Plumb's Damaged is all about child molestation.

Let's party!




Whoo! Reach for the lasers!
>> No. 13372 Anonymous
22nd September 2022
Thursday 1:59 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m5iWSdN_Rw

Another great 80s makeover.

I'm hearing Michael Sembello's Maniac, especially the Linn Drum once again.
>> No. 13374 Anonymous
24th September 2022
Saturday 1:26 am
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMIWoCAUNaE
>> No. 13375 Anonymous
25th September 2022
Sunday 3:21 pm
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