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>> No. 4484 Anonymous
30th October 2017
Monday 3:12 pm
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I shred any letters which I don't need, that carry my name and address on them. Is this good practice or paranoia?
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>> No. 4485 Anonymous
30th October 2017
Monday 3:29 pm
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Can't hurt.

You do read them first though, right?
>> No. 4486 Anonymous
30th October 2017
Monday 4:06 pm
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Yeah, mostly credit card applications or other nonsense.
>> No. 4487 Anonymous
30th October 2017
Monday 4:21 pm
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I've been doing that too and am not sure if it's necessary or not either. I think I've stopped doing it out of pure laziness. Come to think of it if people want it can't they get your name and address from somewhere as simple as the electoral register? Yeah what a bonehead I am.
>> No. 4489 Anonymous
30th October 2017
Monday 4:33 pm
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Not if you were sensible enough to opt out of the unedited roll, no.
>> No. 4490 Anonymous
30th October 2017
Monday 4:51 pm
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I haven't, but again, who cares? Worst that happens is you get junk mail.
>> No. 4491 Anonymous
30th October 2017
Monday 5:13 pm
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>opt out of the unedited roll
You mean not registering?
>> No. 4492 Anonymous
30th October 2017
Monday 5:40 pm
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Bank statements and utility bills are fairly sensitive documents, because a lot of companies treat them as proof of ID. Shredding them is a sensible precaution against identity fraud.


You should definitely register, because it's a significant factor in your credit rating. You can choose to opt out of the open register; if you do, your details will only be made available to election officials, government departments and credit rating agencies. If you are on the open register, your details can be bought by anyone.

>> No. 4493 Anonymous
30th October 2017
Monday 5:50 pm
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FWIW, I get all sorts of shit like credit card offers even though I have always opted out, and even in one place when I wasn't even registered to vote.
>> No. 4494 Anonymous
30th October 2017
Monday 6:02 pm
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There are a lot of ways for your name and address to end up on the market. If you ever neglect to tick the "do not share my details with third parties" when buying something online or setting up a subscription, your details are on thee market and will be continually sold and re-sold.
>> No. 4495 Anonymous
30th October 2017
Monday 6:51 pm
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What about junk mail with this just name and address?
>> No. 4496 Anonymous
30th October 2017
Monday 7:28 pm
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OK, but I'm talking about all letters with your name and address on them.
>> No. 4497 Anonymous
30th October 2017
Monday 7:31 pm
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Absolute trash. Why is this even a thing? Are there people out there who like all their details up for grabs? Why isn't it an opt-in system? Fucking cunts.
>> No. 4498 Anonymous
30th October 2017
Monday 7:42 pm
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I guess they just expect people to be literate enough to read the letters from the local authority that come through the door every year that explain this. Stupid eh?
>> No. 4499 Anonymous
30th October 2017
Monday 7:47 pm
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I guess your dumb nan managed to go to a website and opt-out?
>> No. 4500 Anonymous
30th October 2017
Monday 7:57 pm
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What are you blabbering about, simpleton?
>> No. 4501 Anonymous
30th October 2017
Monday 8:00 pm
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Five consecutive sages? Good sign.
>> No. 4502 Anonymous
30th October 2017
Monday 8:29 pm
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It is good practice.
>> No. 4503 Anonymous
30th October 2017
Monday 11:14 pm
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Is your nan dumb?
Did she opt-out?

Two very simple questions.
>> No. 4504 Anonymous
31st October 2017
Tuesday 12:11 am
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His dumb nan can opt-out by post or phone. Details of the local Electoral Registration Office should be included in the Household Enquiry Form, which is sent out to every household in the UK every year.

Whenever you make a new registration, there's a box on the form (item 10) explaining how the open register works and offering you the choice to opt-out. There's also an explanation of anonymous registration, for people who have legitimate reason to believe that being listed even on the closed register is a threat to their safety.
>> No. 4505 Anonymous
31st October 2017
Tuesday 1:08 am
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Why are you defending this bad practice?
>> No. 4506 Anonymous
31st October 2017
Tuesday 2:02 am
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It's more complicated than "the government is selling your address to junk-mail companies". The open register is hugely useful to all sorts of organisations for all sorts of reasons. If you need a reasonably accurate list of every household in the UK, there aren't a lot of other options. It's a vital resource for any organisation that needs to do macro-level planning and plays a key role in most identity verification and risk management systems.

Users of the open register include:

businesses checking the identity and address details of people who apply for their services such as insurance, goods hire and property rental, as well as when they shop online

businesses selling age-restricted goods or services, such as alcohol and gambling online, to meet the rules on verifying the age of their customers

charities and voluntary agencies, for example to help maintain contact information for those who have chosen to donate bone marrow and to help people separated by adoption to find each other

charities, to help with fundraising and contacting people who have made donations

debt-collection agencies when tracing people who have changed address without telling their creditors

direct-marketing firms when maintaining their mailing lists

landlords and letting agents when checking the identity of potential tenants

local councils when identifying and contacting residents

online directory firms to help users of the websites find people, such as when reuniting friends and families

organisations tracing and identifying beneficiaries of wills, pensions and insurance policies

private-sector firms to verify details of job applicants.

>> No. 4507 Anonymous
31st October 2017
Tuesday 2:20 am
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Most of those users can still search the full register via CRAs.
>> No. 4508 Anonymous
31st October 2017
Tuesday 9:02 am
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If by 'bad practice' you are still whinging about the system not being opt-in, doing that would instantly make the data useless. Your suggestion is the equivalent of abolishing the legal requirement to return the census form.
>> No. 4509 Anonymous
31st October 2017
Tuesday 9:42 am
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>doing that would instantly make the data useless
The primary purpose of the register is to allow people to vote. It rightly should be useless for anything else.
>> No. 4510 Anonymous
31st October 2017
Tuesday 9:48 am
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You really are an incorrigibly stubborn little speck aren't you.
>> No. 4511 Anonymous
31st October 2017
Tuesday 9:59 am
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Mate, anyone with a legitimate need for that data already has access to the unedited register. Anyone that merely wants it to be able to make money can pay the market rate for it like any other commodity.
>> No. 4512 Anonymous
31st October 2017
Tuesday 11:40 am
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Who uses the electoral register?

Election staff, political parties, candidates and holders of elected office use the register for electoral purposes.

Your local council and the British Library hold copies that anyone may look at under supervision. A copy is also held by the Electoral Commission, the Boundary Commissions (which set constituency boundaries for most elections) and the Office for National Statistics.

The council can use the register for duties relating to security, enforcing the law and preventing crime. The police and the security services can also use it for law enforcement.

The register is used when calling people for jury service.

Government departments may buy the register from local registration officers and use it to help prevent and detect crime. They can also use it to safeguard national security by checking the background of job applicants and employees.

Credit reference agencies can buy the register. They help other organisations to check the names and addresses of people applying for credit. They also use it to carry out identity checks when trying to prevent and detect money laundering.

It is a criminal offence for anyone to supply or use the register for anything else.


The only private entities with direct access to the unedited register are the credit reference agencies. They cannot resell that data in part or in whole, but can only use it for the purposes of credit referencing and anti money laundering checks. If I ask a CRA for the credit file of Joe Bloggs on Any Street, they can provide data from the unedited register. If I ask them for a list of everyone in Any Town, they can only provide me with data from the open register.

The current situation is actually an improvement in privacy; prior to 2001, the full unedited register was freely accessible, with no opt-out.
>> No. 4513 Anonymous
31st October 2017
Tuesday 12:27 pm
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Thank you for making my point for me.
>> No. 4514 Anonymous
1st November 2017
Wednesday 12:16 am
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Speaking of the electoral register, my housing movements over the last six years have been so erratic and my memory so poor its fucking with my credit checks, etc. Is there any way if seeing my own data on the electoral roll?
>> No. 4515 Anonymous
1st November 2017
Wednesday 1:33 am
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You only ever have one set of details on the electoral roll (two if you're a student). It's the credit reference agencies that keep track of your previous addresses. You can request a copy of your credit file and they're obliged to correct any inaccurate data, but there's no way to "clean" your credit file if everything on it is correct.

Moving about a lot simply makes you a higher credit risk. There's no way to get around it other than to stay put and wait.

>> No. 4516 Anonymous
1st November 2017
Wednesday 1:37 am
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I'm no expert, but I think after you move it will be the responsibility of the next residents to ensure your name is removed from the register there. If you want to check if you are registered at your current address, your local council should have an elections department who you can ring up and ask. They will probably appreciate the call, I don't know what they occupy themselves with when there isn't an election on.
>> No. 4517 Anonymous
1st November 2017
Wednesday 6:35 pm
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My council's "elections department" are usually staffed by volunteers and temps.
>> No. 4518 Anonymous
1st November 2017
Wednesday 7:02 pm
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Only at election time.

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