>>822

It's a peculiar system of morality, veiled in allegory and illustrated by symbol, to quote their own definition.

Belief in a Higher Power is the only prerequisite for membership, much like Alcoholics Anonymous, although there is also a strong humanist/enlightenment aspect to the rites.

Freemasonry, which once helped to secretly inspire both the French and Russian revolutions, is now a dusty and dull suburban fetish for tedious old men and it's functionally dead. Sage.

>>822

As well as reading this thread, it'd do you good to perform some of your studies. There are different rites within differing branches of Masonry.

The York Rite differs from the Scottish and the Grand Orient, for example.

>>823

Quite right about the Revolutions. And I concur; masonry has long since lost its purpose.

The only things I really remember about them is that the highers up like to think they know the true name of god.

>>828
derrick?

>>693
Oh. Now I get it.

>>839

I've always thought it was Steve; everybody knows a Steve.

>>3234
That poor post was only four years old, you nonce.

When I was out in the Far East not Hong Kong, don't worry someone I worked with had a flat mate who had just joined the local lodge.

Apparently at his first big event Kevin Spacey was there and asked one of the staff to go out and find him two 18 year old boys.

I guess he wanted someone to run lines with or something...

>>3237
It's a test of loyalty. Anyone who will fetch you 18 year old boys on request without batting an eyelid is someone you can trust. Even ARE JIM'LL knew that.

Can a dolescumlad join one?

It's just an old boy's club, isn't it? "You scratch my back I'll scratch yours" and all that.

I know my granddad was involved at some level, he was a well-regarded chemist (I doubt they have any interest in dolescumlads, >>3239). I remember finding a bunch of weird shit cleaning out my gran's house when she died, some bit of cloth to be worn on the front (?), badges and suchlike, my dad told me at the time it was all masonic stuff. We binned it, I think.

>>3240

>We binned it, I think.
That makes me sad.

I was interested when I was a teenlad in my later years - but I remember going to a lodge, and being interviewed by two chaps at the doorway. Everything was going well, until I said I'm an atheist - then they laughed at me and essentially told me to get out. Cunts.

https://www.youtube.com/v/OExykL5QnXY

>>3240
That's the impression I've always got - for a minority it may well involve mysterious and possibly sinister secret networks and all that jazz, but for most members it's basically the Rotary Club with some added dressing up and mysticism.

>>3248

Who insists you get your grammar right?
Who gets into cunt-offs every night?
We do! We do!

Who enjoys that chap called Moat?
Who kills crabs and then likes to gloat?
We do! We do!

Who considers pissing in an arse?
Who thinks the Daily Mail's a complete fucking farce?
We do! We do!

>>3251
Excellent. If this is fleshed out I might do a cover version and upload it somewhere.

>>3252
Not >>3251 but if you're serious you could probably keep the real opening lines:

Who controls the British crown?
Who keeps the metric system down?
We do! We do!

and >>3251's lyrics might need tweaking to scan properly:

Who demands your gammar's right?
Who has cunt-offs every night?
We do! We do!

Who enjoys that chap called Moat?
Who kills crabs then likes to gloat?
We do! We do!

Who would piss into an arse?
Who knows the Mail's a fucking farce?
We do! We do!

or something...

>>3253
>Who demands your gammar's right?
Is that apostrophe supposed to be there?

>>3253

Who knows that they are better than you?
(hosted in a shed and then a loo)
We do! We do!

>>3254
Yes, but sadly the 'r' had escaped, for which I apologise. It's a contraction of 'grammar is'.

>>3253
> if you're serious
I actually am. I have a lot of free time.
I don't think keeping the opening lines really fit.
>>3256
I'd change this to
"Who knows that they are better than you?
Who tells you to go back to /iq/?"

But mention of the shed should definitely be in there somewhere.

>>3258

>Who tells you to go back to /iq/?"

Brilliant.

>>3258
Yeah, the shed thing felt clumsy, but the only other way that sprung to mind was something like

Who are the voices in your head?
Who was hosted in a shed?

which clearly needs a 'we are' rather than 'we do'. You're also right about the opening lines; I was mostly just amused that they were so British already and liked the idea of are purps somehow controlling the monarchy. It could perhaps be adapted to 'who supports the British crown / who keeps filthy foreigners down' which fits better but still somewhat clumsily...

>>3260
* oh, and 'who tells you to go back to /iq/' is indeed much better.

Learned the chords already lads.

>>828
Yahweh, Jehova?

>>3240

Please don't bin anything you think might be masonic, it might belong to someone else's family or have significance to the history of the lodge. 99% chance it was your grandad's, but it's better in lodge possession than the bin.

Hand stuff in to the lodge, just to be on the safe side. Especially documents and books.

>>3265

Glenn.

>>/v/17058

>>3265

Elohim. Yahweh and Elohim are separate forces, with Yahweh being lower in the hierarchy representing a different branch of the Tree of the Holy Sephiroth.

Elohim is the 1st and highest branch, the creator, the speaker of The Word, The Horizon of Eternity.

Yahweh is a tyrant, a trickster and a vengeful and spiteful "lesser" god and is not to be worshipped. This is why they say you can only come to God through Jesus, because he is The Word made flesh and Elohim's avatar on this plane.

That is pretty much just made up, based on what I know about the bible and the Qabbalists. Sounds good, though.

>>3268

That's pretty much gnosticism.

>>3268

>>3269

That's pretty much arse. Would it have hurt to have read a bit before blessing us with your insight? I hear wikipedia has some great articles on the subject.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YHWH

>>3270
Not the people you're replying to, but would it have hurt you not to be a hypocrite? Read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism and tell me >>3268 isn't talking about a variation on mitigated dualism.

>>3270

>That is pretty much just made up

Yeah, I wasn't expecting questions to be honest.

>>3271

3269 here, cheers.

>>3273
No worries, >>3270 got right up my nose. >>3268 made it clear he was talking nonsense (and it was good quality nonsense at that), and you were perfectly right.

mid-20s lad here.

I got my 3rd degree in february, but haven't been to lodge since due to work commitments and/or laziness.

If you are a freeborn male with a belief in a single god, it's probably something you'd like.

Robert Anton Wilson may or may not offer some insight on the subject.

>>665

One post away from NWOconspiritinfoil gloriousness.

>>3275

Forgot the link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9h2eNHB4vY

>>tell me 3268 isn't talking about a variation on mitigated dualism.

No, he's talking nonsense. He said so.

>>3270 got right up my nose

Jolly good.

>>3268 made it clear he was talking nonsense

Yeah I read that bit. If he hadn't said so I'd never have guessed.

>>and it was good quality nonsense at that

No.

>>3278
Hugely enjoyable, as R.A.W. always is, but masons seemed a fairly minor flavour in the conspiracy cocktail he was mixing.

>>3279

N1 M8 WONT NO WOT EM!

>>3280
I dunno, he talked/wrote about the P2 stuff a fair bit and how it all linked up to the CIA, Vatican, Mafia and major drug smuggling operations.

If anyone is interested it makes for an interesting read.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_Due

And here's Mr Wilson himself giving a great talk on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q54xeCVFg8I

I don't think it's true that he regarded masonry as a "minor flavour" amongst all the conspiracy stuff. He quite openly talked/wrote about it a fair bit and he definitely seemed reasonably well informed on the subject.
I would say though that he tended to take the view of there being no single grand overarching conspiracy to control mankind or whatever but rather "a multitude of conspiracies contend in the night.", which is a stance I'd probably agree with.

RAW is always worth a watch/read though really. He was in my humble opinion one of the most interesting thinkers of the last century.

I was going to start a new thread about this but may as well post it here as i suspect these cunts are involved somehow.

I'm sure you've all seen the Matteson's Fridge Raiders advert. Now, when the mother hands the child a pack, she says "You must be hankmarving", which is cockney rhyming slang for "starving" (hungry). Now, f you take the g off and add a space, that becomes hank marvin, and just look who the little bastard looks exactly like. In fact, if you go back in the advert, you'll see many of the other kids at his school look the same.

>>3294
Also, look what a closer inspection of the child's school blazer reveals.

Oh, and guess what song is fucking playing in the background?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNlyXJsSX8c

>>3294
>>3295
6/10. A decent effort, but a little too obvious.

>>3296
Obvious what? I'm not in the illuminarty if that's what you're implying.

https://www.youtube.com/v/t1bHBthJN9w

forewarned is forearmed ladmate

>>665
>free Masons
Great, where do I claim mine?

It's only partially related I guess, but I tried to pledge OTO once but was declined sponsorship.

The local Fr. subsequently got back in touch and asked if I wanted to pledge again. I'm not sure whether this was the ol' Buddhist turn them away and see if they stay manoeuvre a la fight club or if they genuinely thought I was a nutbag or not enough of a nutbag.

Anyways, now I'm broke. So I couldn't afford to join the magnificent caped cult even if I wanted to.

>>693
You know who your fellow masons are, so this would be more like the hellfire club (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellfire_Club) only without the sex no homo

please don't ban me again

>>3307

shit. They didn't wear masks at the Hellfire club, I probably meant Eyes Wide Shut or summat.

I should really stop trying to be a clever clogs on t'intehnet