>>20506

They said they would never do it unless they made a better game, looks like they gave up. I think they've realised FF15 is going to bomb heavily.

Lets hope it's faithful at least in part ot orignal combat mechanics. A slick, modernised turn-based system is something Sqeenix could really innovate on with this title if they put their mind to it. I don't want an ARPG with poorly implemented MMO-esque combat with a FF7 skin.

I am happy though. Very happy.

I don't envy them. No matter what they make, no matter how "good" it is, a bunch of people are going to be pissed off - it'll be "not close enough to the original", or "too old-fashioned and stuck in the past", too easy, too hard, etc etc.

>>20506
Day one ultra turbo collectors edition purchase.
FF7 was the defining game of my teenage years and I still consider it a Masterwork.

>>20507
I can see them going for the XIII style combat - turn based system that's more fluid and dynamic than the classic VII-X system. Though the the last few big FF games to get western releases are Lightning Returns, XIV, Type-0 and XV which are more ARPG. Type-0's worked pretty well I thought, not as MMOish as XII, but not as button mashy as XV, and each character had its own style to playing them.

Worried they'll go the XV route of having only the main character be directly playable, really hope they don't do that.

>>20508
I'm looking forward to it quite a bit, as I have neither fondness nor dislike of VII. Other than the first ten hours or so which are almost perfect, I always felt the game after leaving Midgar was pretty mediocre. If they can make the rest of the game even slightly as interesting as the opening act, I'll be chuffed.

The only thing I'm truely worried about is how they'll do the combat system. If nothing else let us have 2 styles of combat to choose from, turn based or a button masher for those who have never played a turn based FF game.

Some minor worries are things like the swearing, cross dressing and other jokes and golden moments of the game that might be seen in a bad light in "this day and age". I've never played an FF game past 10 but I know for that one they did away with the world map, I'm hoping they keep a world map for this remake, I want getting Knights of the round as difficult as before.

I don't think I can get that excited over a trailer that probably has no in game footage, has an incoherant monologue, and shows the back of clouds head for 2 seconds then says remake.

If I was under the age of 20 I would be deeply confused by that trailer and wonder why I should care, but then after I saw older peoples reactions I'd act like I did to seem cool, and be really obnoxious and passionate about it to any one of my age who was honest enough to say they didn't care. Imaginary teenage me is the worse kind of person.

>>20519
"How the new, slightly darker aesthetic sits with some of the crazier elements of the original game remains to be seen, but it seems they'll be intact. Can't wait to see the delicious sight of Cloud in a dress in glorious HD? "Please look forward to it," said Nomura as the interview came to a close. "

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-06-17-it-seems-like-final-fantasy-7s-remake-wont-lose-so-much-of-the-crazy

>>20521
>Can't wait to see the delicious sight of Cloud in a dress in glorious HD? "Please look forward to it," said Nomura as the interview came to a close. "

This is why I'm glad the Japanese don't give a single fuck about "safe spaces" and don't bow down to this specific area of pressure where everything must be politically correct.

NOW the localization teams on the other hand aren't so good at that. NISA, a localization team who translate obscure JRPGs which focus on fanservice love to do that shit. No idea if Square-Enix's in-house localisation team will censor anything.

Plus the fact Nomura is at the helm leads me to believe his Poochie will make an appearance in FF7. I mean just before the remake announcement they had the trailer for World of FF which has both Cloud and Lightning as the "classic beloved" characters that represent the series. I mean christ when I got the FFX remaster, she was on the fucking back of the case.

>>20522

>This is why I'm glad the Japanese don't give a single fuck about "safe spaces"

This whole series is why I'm glad I'm not a weeaboo to be honest. It's embarrassing just reading about it.

>>20522
What do safe spaces have to do with the cross dressing of a fictional character?

>>20525
Don't even try to start this shit in an /e/ thread. It's fucking tiresome.

>>20526
Yeah. Please, please, can we not have another transgender ethics debate. I don't give a shit which side you're on, let's talk about videogames instead.

>>20527
Fair enough.

How about how the combat system? Will it be turn based again or will they try and make it real time? The last few FF games that feature a full real time system are a bit shit.

Will the golden saucer include microtransactions? Will Cloud be just like he was in AC rather than originally? Will Tifa's tits be reduced in size? Is Aerith a whore who sells her "flower" for 1gil?

>>20528

Aeris. Fuck this revisionist bullshit.

>>20529
Aeris is arguably the revision itself.

>>20530>>20529
I genuinely did not mean to call her Aerith.

That's what happens when so many people correct me when I say Aeris. Next I'll be saying Cloudu-San.

>>20533
I just assumed you had a lisp.

>>20520
I think anyone who pays enough attention to E3/gaming news to have seen the FFVII trailer will understand the significance of it, regardless of age. Every review of a JRPG seems to mention FFVII, almost every list of top RPGs/Japanese games/video games in general has FFVII in the top 20. I think anyone who follows video games will understand why there's so much hype surrounding the trailer, even if they have never played the game and even if they weren't born until after it came out.

It's kind of like Ocarina Of Time, I know a lot of people who have never played it, but who say it's the best game of all time because it has a reputation of being as such.

>>20535
Yes, but IX is better.

It turned out shit.

It's alright when you come to terms with the dodgy combat and all the story padding. I'm on chapter 15 of 18, 18 hours in, on my way into Shinra HQ. I assume it ends with the Midgar escape. They've done an alright job stretching a 5 hour segment of the original into a full length game. So yeah, just alright.

>>25839

Are they ever going to do the rest of it or what? I don't get it. I don't want to play half a game, and end up hanging on for years for the next bit.

I don't know why I care though because I've never been a Final Fantasy fan. The first one is the only one that's sufficiently non-JRPGish for me to have enjoyed it, because the tropes of the genre hadn't been established yet at that point.

>>25840
Part 2 "Rebirth" was announced a few months ago, along with a remaster of Crisis Core.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAJP1uAuiZg

Was it really necessary to turn Cloud into a sexy femboy?

>>25842

Do you think there should be fewer sexy femboys? Because if so, I will fight to the death to resist whatever twisted cause you represent.

>>25842

U wot lad, he always has been.

I distinctly remember, when I looked at the artwork of him (and Squall and Zidane) in the PlayStation Magazine as a kid, I could never tell if they were meant to be boys or girls.

I really like Cloud in the remake. The perfect balance of aloof mercenary, and compassionate good guy. Better than the miserable cunt of the Kingdom Hearts games.

>>25845
He always was a lot more upbeat in the original game, especially after he works out who he really is. Advent Children turned him emo.

Why was this thread bumped? Did this remake finally get made?

>>25847
Wouldn't it be easier to just read the new posts instead of asking and expecting a quick response?

Really shits the bed in the last chapter. Awful. I guess it's their way of saying "we're doing our own thing, this ain't your momma's Final Fantasy VII" but it was done in such a shit and boring way. "Defying destiny" and by destiny it means the actual plot of FFVII.

The DLC where you play as Yuffie had fun gameplay, and she is a very likeable character, final boss was pic related (who apparently is from Dirge Of Cerberus which I never played) and I think he could well be the worst designed FF character ever.

>>25848

I took a quick scan, but it seems a bit haphazard in terms of releases. Does the Remake Part 2 cover the end of the game or is there going to be a Part 3, Part 4, Part 5? Is Rebirth the same as the Remake? What the fuck is Crisis Core?

I just played FF7 back in the day and liked it, and will probably just watch a nice edited longplay at some point.

>>25851
Rebirth is the second part of the Remake series, I see mixed info about whether it's going to be a trilogy or duology. The twist of the remake is that destiny says the events of the original FFVII will happen, and when stuff that goes against that destiny happen, dementors from Harry Potter appear and do shenanigans. Example: Sephiroth kills Barrett at Shinra HQ, dementors heal him. Also you fight Sephiroth at the end of the motorbike chase out of Midgar which didn't happen in the original. They're going a bit meta with mixed results. Crisis Core was a prequel where you play as Cloud's SOLDIER buddy Zack, I think it was on PSP, but it's getting a remake for current gen which comes out next month.

>>25852

I think they've earned the right to play with some meta elements, and I could imagine it being done well. The original FF7 had those ideas in it anyway, from what I remember, since the Zack character you mention was just an earlier design of the protagonist and Cloud being a later iteration was worked into the plot.

If any of you lads ever feel like editing the 600 hours of existing FF7 material into a 90 minute film, that'd be nice.

>>25853
>If any of you lads ever feel like editing the 600 hours of existing FF7 material into a 90 minute film, that'd be nice.

I found one that's 11 hours long. See you lads at about 8 this evening, then.

The 11 hour cutscene edit I watched only covered Part 1. First impressions:

- Jesus Christ it's long
- Everything is visually gorgeous; I don't even mind the highly idealised physical appearance of the characters. FF has achieved the impossible of pleasant looking anime-meets-reality
- The overall aesthetic blending cyberpunk(?) and early 20th century urban slums is a lot more coherent now
- The plot is more coherent compared to the old game, possibly due to improved translation and allowing more time for the Midgar section to "breathe"
- Cloud's character makes more sense in this one; in the original he seemed to inconsistently switch between hardened mercenary, bashful nice lad, and broken tabula rasa. This one makes it a lot more clear how and why different situations bring about different aspects of his personality
- Red XIII is absolutely adorable and I forgot how early he was introduced in the game
- They made Jessie more attractive than Tifa
- The gender-bending bit was even more surreal but not unwelcome; Cloud's "nailed it, I know, moving on" made me genuinely laugh
- Was Leslie a necessary character? We already have one femboy with a mysterious past...
- The plot of FF games contain interesting ideas but are portrayed in some curiously "heightened" ways
- The voice acting is mostly good, other than that Barret's voice actor could tone it down a bit sometimes, and also those strange gasping noises that the characters frequently make is a bit of a jarring behavioural anime carryover when everyone looks (almost) like a real human
- I wish they'd spent maybe a bit more time refining the dialogue, which often crosses over the line from "easily recognisable archetype" to Disney cartoon

Overall I am impressed with it, they've faithfully rendered the important stuff of the original but also expanded on it beyond just a minimum effort cash-grab. I'll try and find an edit of the second half and watch the next time I take a proper sick day.

>>25858
>The 11 hour cutscene edit
>Jesus Christ it's long

No shit.

>>25858
Leslie felt completely out of place even for the remake style.
Like a crossover from Kingdom Hearts.

>>25850

I wrote >>25858 at the 10h30m mark before the entire "destiny" fight came to a head. I suspect they just wanted to place a meaningful boss battle at the end of the first title in their FF7... remake... series. I agree the look and feel of the "whispers" is generic, and the idea that fate would take on the appearance of a big cloaked monster seemed unimaginative. Even conceptually, what makes the whispers distinct from the "lifestream" as an overarching balancing force, and why include one for both time and the planet?

Whether the meta elements pay off as a whole is an open question, though. My guess is that they'll attempt to tie in everything, including Crisis Core and Advent Children and Apocalypse Now and everything else they've made related to FF7 over the years.

The original had a beautiful and bittersweet ending in which the planet survived but it's unclear what happened to human civilisation:

This works as a parable warning against destructive human greed and excess, but seeing as this series is much longer, if they're smart they could write something just as compelling but more hopeful than just having a primitivist "back to nature" resolution to it all.

What if AVALANCHE successfully spread their message? What if the citizens of Wutai and Midgar unite for the sake of their planet? What if Sephiroth decides not to follow Jenova? I think there's a lot of potential to have a bit of fun with the plot while staying true to the themes, which in retrospect were a weird melting pot of Shelley's Frankenstein, Greenpeace-like climate activism, strongly anti-corporate and somewhat anti-war, with Jewish mysticism and Norse mythology snuck in for some reason.

Rebirth is out. Looks very good in smaller environments, Kalm looks like a lovely place to live. The open world so far I'm unsure about. Not enough enemies to keep it exciting, so lots of wandering about fairly pretty green fields with fuck all to do. Combat is fine, sloppier than FFXVI's but being able to play as multiple different characters is a win over XVI.

Interested to see how it subverts stuff like the first remake did.

Rebirth so far.
I've arrived at Upper Junon, just done the parade section.
What they've reworked that follows the original plot is lovely.
Some of the changes make sense, other stuff has me scratching my head. They're not longer pretending it isn't a sort of time loop sequel though.

Xenogears for plebs, and I'm not even joking