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>> No. 4621 Anonymous
27th August 2018
Monday 9:08 pm
4621 Diabetes
Diabetic lad here.


I want to cure my type 2 diabetes before it turns me into a rotting zombie. The doctors do not want to hear any of it, they just want to pump me full of Metformin, Lantus and Novorapid.

Here's my plan: intermittent fasting, no food allowed from 8PM to 12AM. 1000 calories every day, mainly beans, rice, green vegetables, lean meat. Only drinks allowed are coffee or tea without milk or sugar, sparkling water.

Following this guidelines, I had my blood sugar at 7, without taking any insulin or metformin. I am going to speak with my diabetic nurse next week and ask what she thinks of it.

Any advice?
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>> No. 4622 Anonymous
27th August 2018
Monday 9:12 pm
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycemic_load
>> No. 4623 Anonymous
27th August 2018
Monday 9:15 pm
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>>4622

Exactly. I am going for foods with the lowest GI possible, like string beans or wholegrain pasta/rice. I measure my blood sugar several times at day, until now I got no hypos or hyper. When injecting insulin I had frequent hypos.
>> No. 4624 Anonymous
27th August 2018
Monday 9:28 pm
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Read up on some more on intermittent fasting and ketogenic diets, but remember, there's a lot of quackery mixed in alongside information that's backed up by decent science. And it can be hard to tell which is which unless you're scientifically minded and prepared to put the time into reading through cited literature.

Also, anecdotally a hell of a lot of people are having success at curing or mitigating type 2 diabetes with these sorts of diets, but always keep in mind that there are still huge differences from person to person. There may be particular foods which are a problem for you so the advice is to always keep a detailed diary of everything you eat and how you feel along with your blood sugar levels for a couple of months or so.

Regarding your choices, intermittent fasts and calorie restriction aren't always the best choice. You might want to go down the route of low/zero carb instead. Low carb diets are best if you allow yourself some carbs sometimes, like a portion of rice or pasta once or twice a week.
>> No. 4625 Anonymous
27th August 2018
Monday 9:35 pm
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>>4624

I will talk with the nurse about that. There is a lot of controversy about the diabetic diet, for example when I was in the hospital they gave me boiled potatoes in every single goddamn meal, claiming that it was the best choice for diabetics.
>> No. 4626 Anonymous
28th August 2018
Tuesday 12:41 am
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>>4621
Canned fruit and veg have a higher nutrient density than fresh fruit and veg.

I know this because Biotechnology was the focus of my studies and I replicated the results of a journal I found corroborating my theory in a pissing Uni lab, of all places.

"Nutritionists", especially armchair ones who browse /fit/, are complete charlatans.
>> No. 4627 Anonymous
28th August 2018
Tuesday 12:57 am
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>>4626

>Canned fruit and veg have a higher nutrient density than fresh fruit and veg.

They do, but they also tend to have a significant amount of added salt. The effects of sodium on cardiovascular health aren't entirely clear, but we do know that at least some proportion of the population are susceptible to elevated blood pressure due to excess sodium intake. I'm fine with canned veg and think that frozen is probably best for nutrition, albeit not for taste.
>> No. 4628 Anonymous
28th August 2018
Tuesday 1:49 am
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>>4626

Forgive me if I say that, but you think you missed the point. Canned fruit/veg is denser, so you end up eating much less volume and feeling hungrier. Last time I suffered a food craving I just made a big bowl of fresh string beans and spent at least half an hour munching and chewing like a cow on pasture. In the end, I was sated and I ate almost nothing.

Reference:

https://www.sparkpeople.com/resource/nutrition_articles.asp?id=1987
>> No. 4629 Anonymous
28th August 2018
Tuesday 3:38 am
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>>4628
> Canned fruit/veg is denser, so you end up eating much less volume and feeling hungrier.

Denser how, exactly? Surely the density is just water and wouldn't affect calorie : satiety ratios at all?
>> No. 4630 Anonymous
28th August 2018
Tuesday 7:08 am
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>>4621

What is your current weight and height?
>> No. 4631 Anonymous
28th August 2018
Tuesday 9:57 am
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>>4630

1.70, 77Kg. Type 2 diabetes, 24 units of Lantus and 24 of Novorapid daily, plus 3 Metformin 850.
>> No. 4632 Anonymous
28th August 2018
Tuesday 10:42 am
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>>4627

Frozen veg isn't, most canned products like tomatoes are sealed in the field it was picked in meaning the flavonoids and anti-oxidants don't have time to degrade and they taste more or less as they would + salt. Frozen stuff is more acutely affected by the oxidation of esters, which alters the taste, and often the freezing/unfreezing process can denature the protiens and rupture the cell walls causing lysis, affecting the texture as well as the flavour.
>> No. 4633 Anonymous
28th August 2018
Tuesday 10:48 am
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>>4628

Nutrient density is what you want from a low volume, high nutrition diet though.

Eating high volumes of low calorie foods is a fat person thing and a fat person thing only, because your stomachs are cavernous and if you don't fill them your appetite will decimate your willpower, like so many twigs breaking under your enormous girth.
>> No. 4634 Anonymous
28th August 2018
Tuesday 10:53 am
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This is fully anecdotal but my cousin cured his type 2 with a ketogenic diet. Suggested by his doctor. He's happy with it, though it's not the most convenient of diets for eating out etc.

He was about the same weight as you, i.e it wasn't an obesity thing that was his problem either. His doctor apparently mentioned it's the same diet he tries to reduce or often stop fits in epilepsy patients, too. Mental.
>> No. 4635 Anonymous
28th August 2018
Tuesday 11:04 am
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>>4631

170cm and 77kg isn't that overweight, you are one of the unlucky ones. :/

I hope the crash diet works for you in the short term, in the long term I think your daily lifestyle in other respects will be more important. You should try find a sport you actually like do it regularly and strive to get better at it. The more exercise is a passive result of something you want to do the better.

I would also recommend you get and take as much metformin as they will allow. There are some early studies that suggest it actually prevents aging, you could increase your lifespan by taking it. I would get and take it if I could.
>> No. 4636 Anonymous
28th August 2018
Tuesday 3:49 pm
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>>4635

Cannot do much sport, got some unrelated problems with mobility.

Metformin gives a lot of of side effects, not crippling but annoying. By the way, it's not even a restricted medication. You can get it from online pharmacies quite cheaply.
>> No. 4637 Anonymous
28th August 2018
Tuesday 11:41 pm
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>>4636

>By the way, it's not even a restricted medication

I haven't gone into a phamacy and asked, but wikipedia has it listed as a Prescription-only drugs.
>> No. 4639 Anonymous
29th August 2018
Wednesday 7:00 am
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>>4633
>Eating high volumes of low calorie foods is a fat person thing and a fat person thing only

OH right, that's why I see so many obese bastards carrying round bin-bags full of lettuce and carrot sticks.
>> No. 4641 Anonymous
29th August 2018
Wednesday 8:16 am
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>>4639
Probably because their parents lectured them on Happy Meals.
>> No. 4642 Anonymous
29th August 2018
Wednesday 11:33 am
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>>4637

I mean that it is not a morphine based medication, it can be bought in an online pharmacy
>> No. 4653 Anonymous
31st August 2018
Friday 12:47 am
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>>4639

I thought it was implied that it was a fat person trying to lose weight thing, but slamming your forehead into the keyboard works just as well.

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