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>> No. 4848 Anonymous
25th September 2019
Wednesday 1:13 am
4848 Teeth general
Let's have a general post about dental issues.

So let's say I (a 29-year-old) strongly suspect my lower left canine never fell out but can't actually remember and it's believable that it didn't. (I have a younger cousin well into his 20s who literally has two of certain teeth in his mouth because his mum was 'nicer' than mine). How do I ascertain whether or not this tooth is old or new? And if it's old what is the least painful way to rid myself of it? Is it even safe to try? And if it's new how do I fix my mouth because Jesus it's starting to hurt basically all the time now?

Pretend I have terrible anxiety that once prevented me from going to the dentist at all but now only prevents me from going to the dentist if I don't know what to expect. Also I brush them only once a month or less because I was forcibly kissed from a young age and so intentionally decided to make myself disgusting. Talk to me like I literally don't know what teeth even are.

How are your teeth?
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>> No. 4849 Anonymous
25th September 2019
Wednesday 1:28 am
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Phone NHS England on 0300 311 2233 and ask for the details of the local dental sedation clinic. They will be able to offer you whatever help you need in accessing dental treatment, from calming music and valium through to intravenous sedation.

The Band 2 fee for NHS dentistry is £62.10, which covers anything up to an extraction or a root canal. You won't need to pay if you're on benefits or a low income; ask the dentist for an HC5 form.
>> No. 4850 Anonymous
25th September 2019
Wednesday 1:42 am
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Honestly thank-you. I wish someone - anyone - even my own parents, could have spelled it out for me like this. Tears are in my eyes, but I don't want to sob too loudly because it will wake up my cat. May all of your wishes come true, my friend. Every last fucking one of them.
>> No. 4851 Anonymous
25th September 2019
Wednesday 1:46 am
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If you are in pain, and it isn't manageable using painkillers, then you should be able to seek urgent treatment, which will be charged at Band 1. This will cover whatever treatment will relieve the immediate problem, up to and including extractions.

Be aware that "manageable" means that standard OTC painkillers up to the recommended dose and in accordance with the instructions provide relief, and if the problem is more complex the urgent care provision will only do enough to get you back home safely.
>> No. 4852 Anonymous
25th September 2019
Wednesday 2:12 am
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Yeah my teeth are all fucked, I'm missing about seven that just gradually crumbled away throughout my twenties. I had a couple of horrible abscesses and went to the emergency dentist once, but for the rest of them I just waited and eventually it stopped hurting. I've stopped eating sweets and drinking fizzy drinks in case it makes any more fall out. Worked out okay in the end I suppose.

I used to be really self conscious about it but fuck it. I suppose one day when I'm a grown up I'll go and ask for them all ripping out and some false ones put in. My dental phobia is strong enough that I'm willing to accept premature death of gum disease related coronary sepsis.

Don't worry OP, you're doing OK.
>> No. 4853 Anonymous
25th September 2019
Wednesday 2:22 am
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>You won't need to pay if you're on benefits or a low income; ask the dentist for an HC5 form.
Someone on a low income not on benefits needs HC5(D) and HC1. The first is useless without the second. It's probably better to state your circumstances like a normal person than ask for forms you half understand by name.
>> No. 4854 Anonymous
25th September 2019
Wednesday 3:11 am
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No bother mate. Make the call, get your teeth sorted and let us know how you get on.

If you have any other health-related issues, have a look on the NHS website. It's full of really useful information about what to do and what treatment you can access. If you're not sure what help you need, just dial 111 for advice.

If you have problems with work, benefits, housing or just general life stuff, your first port of call is Citizens Advice. They offer free, impartial and confidential advice on your legal rights and can refer you to other agencies if necessary. There's loads of useful stuff on their website, but you're best off calling your local office for telephone advice or to make a face-to-face appointment.




An NHS dental surgery should make sure that an exempt patient doesn't pay fees, but they aren't obliged to do so. If they don't and OP ends up paying when he shouldn't have to, the HC5(D) form includes all of the information needed to claim a refund. Section 5 of the HC5(D) explains the need to submit an HC1 and tells you how to get one; the form also includes information on the HC11 leaflet and the number for the NHS Help with Healthcare Costs advice line. In the interests of brevity and clarity, I omitted a complete explanation of how NHS dental charges work.
>> No. 4855 Anonymous
25th September 2019
Wednesday 3:27 am
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Yeah, well, next time: don't.
>> No. 4856 Anonymous
25th September 2019
Wednesday 11:10 am
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> How are your teeth?
Could have been better if I had brushed them properly and visited the tooth miner on time.
I remember moaning in /emo/ about dental phobia. Took me about a year to actually take fucking action. Walked into the room on shaky legs, five or six times before they sorted me out.
Now I go there bi-annually, just in case. And still bloody anxious, if you ask me.
>> No. 4857 Anonymous
25th September 2019
Wednesday 11:23 am
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>> No. 4858 Anonymous
25th September 2019
Wednesday 12:57 pm
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Should have read this post before talking about my wisdom tooth this morning. Soz.
>> No. 4859 Anonymous
25th September 2019
Wednesday 1:55 pm
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At least you did it before two thirty.
>> No. 4860 Anonymous
26th September 2019
Thursday 9:47 am
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Remember to floss lads.

If you don't post at half past two, then you aren't a half past two.
>> No. 4861 Anonymous
28th September 2019
Saturday 4:55 am
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My teeth, a history;

back in maybe 2012 or so I was scheduled for an emergency wisdom tooth removal on the NHS, luckily the doctor had the foresight to prescribe some fairly powerful antibiotics because I was "barely febrile" (although I was also utterly tachycardic, especially for someone who'd been sat in A&E for 4 hours (I couldn't open my jaw at all). In any case the antibiotics were so powerful they landed my on my arse for 12 hours, I missed the appointment, and woke up with all the swelling gone down and feeling human for the first time in years. A follow-up surgery told me how close to sepsis I was and how lucky I was that the on duty Dr had prescribed my antibiotics.

Going back even further, while training Judo in 2007 I took a riotous knee to the face while trying to drag someone down to the back which left me with a black eye which covered most of one half of my face, one chipped tooth, and one loose tooth.

The black eye went away of its own accord, of course, however the chipped tooth has had to be rebuilt with dental ceramic no more than five times over the last decade and a bit, and the loose tooth which my (private) dentist said would be OK finally needed a root canal last year because the nerve had been basically dead for all those years.

TL;DR - Aside from a few cavities most of my tooth problems have come from being kicked and kneed full in the mush. If you plain to get kicked and/or kneed fully in the mush - wear a mouth guard.

- a person who's lived it all
>> No. 4865 Anonymous
3rd October 2019
Thursday 9:38 am
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Jesus this is me all over. About 4 years ago one of my molars chipped randomly, a good chunk gone. It was annoying but didn't really hurt and due to depression and anxiety I never went to the dentist to sort it out.

About 2 years later it really flared up, immense pain and swelling. I went to an emergency dental appotbut they just looked at it and referred me to another dentist. I went to the only one accepting new patients and he berated me about not going to the dentist regularly so I never went back. Fuck that, I have enough hang ups as it is, I know I've fucked up, please don't shout at me.

And literally this morning another massive chunk has fallen off. There's about one third of the tooth missing and a huge gap. I'm terrified of it now getting infected and terrified of going to another dentist with my fucked up mouth, getting looked down upon and bullied again. I just want the fucking thing gone now

What is wrong with me
>> No. 4866 Anonymous
3rd October 2019
Thursday 11:38 am
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Forthright advice from a concerned professional that is later proven correct when ignored is not "bullying", mate. Just go to a dentist.
>> No. 4867 Anonymous
3rd October 2019
Thursday 1:10 pm
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Don't be a cunt, lad. Dental phobia is commonplace and will only be more severe if you throw a dose of the old depression and anxiety to the mix. He then had his fears and anxieties justified by the dentist treating him poorly, which is why he didn't want to go in the first place.

As medical professionals, dentists should know better. But they don't, because they're all cunts who just wanted a faster and easier career path than being an actual doctor.
>> No. 4868 Anonymous
3rd October 2019
Thursday 1:24 pm
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I don't mean to be a cunt, but there are occasions when the most straightforward route is the one that needs to be taken. I've spent some years now trying to convince my own father to overcome his own dental phobia so his jaw might stop swelling up and causing him severe pain once every 18 months or so. You might think me naive for expecting advice I can't convince my own dad of to be followed by a stranger on the internet, but I would say you're more naive for reckoning you can do anything about the phobia in the first place. What else is there? Otherlad waits for his jaw to become inflamed or the rest of his nashers to spill out of his head? There's nothing else for it than to visit a dentist.

Dentists do know better and that's likely why they're tired of how knackered a great many people's teeth are, and that includes my own.
>> No. 4869 Anonymous
3rd October 2019
Thursday 1:25 pm
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>> No. 4870 Anonymous
3rd October 2019
Thursday 1:30 pm
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Nah, that's just stupid. I don't believe you.
>> No. 4871 Anonymous
3rd October 2019
Thursday 1:39 pm
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>> No. 4872 Anonymous
3rd October 2019
Thursday 2:32 pm
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>What else is there?

First reply in this thread. If you go to a sedation clinic rather than an ordinary dentist, they can provide you with medication to manage the symptoms of phobia and make it easier for you to access dental treatment. Some people just need a sympathetic dentist that understands phobia, some need benzodiazepines to reduce their anxiety, some need to be fully sedated with nitrous oxide or IV sedation.

Bollocking a patient for not going to the dentist really isn't helpful, because it doesn't address the why. Some people just can't be arsed, but most people who avoid the dentist have a serious phobia.
>> No. 5003 Anonymous
30th January 2020
Thursday 11:54 am
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The gum of one of my front incisors has receded a couple of millimetres in the space of a week. The gumline of the tooth is very sore and my electric toothbrush is causing it a lot of pain. I'm seeing the dentist in two weeks but the recession is significant enough to have me worried. It's mainly occurring at the middle of the tooth, the gum at the edges of the tooth is fine.
>> No. 5004 Anonymous
30th January 2020
Thursday 4:02 pm
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Can anyone reccomend a good toothpaste brand? The ammount choice is overwhelming. I don't know the first thing about toothpaste chemistry so am rather subject to packaging design.
>> No. 5006 Anonymous
30th January 2020
Thursday 4:53 pm
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They're just a foaming agent, a mild abrasive and a tiny little bit of fluoride. If you just want to keep your teeth clean, they're all much of a muchness.
>> No. 5007 Anonymous
30th January 2020
Thursday 4:58 pm
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I like Arm & Hammer because I just do.
>> No. 5008 Anonymous
30th January 2020
Thursday 5:23 pm
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So i can literally go for the cheapest by weight while retaining health and without being ripped off?
>> No. 5009 Anonymous
30th January 2020
Thursday 5:29 pm
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Well, the taste and effectiveness is a consideration too.

Colgate or Arm and Hammer for me.
>> No. 5010 Anonymous
30th January 2020
Thursday 5:30 pm
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Yeah, pretty much. All of the fancy colours and gels are just marketing bollocks. You might choose to pay more if you want a whitening toothpaste or if you've got sensitive teeth, but otherwise just buy whatever's cheap.
>> No. 5011 Anonymous
30th January 2020
Thursday 5:44 pm
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This. The type of toothbrush you use matters far more than the type of toothpaste in most cases.
>> No. 5020 Anonymous
30th January 2020
Thursday 9:41 pm
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Sonicare is way the best and actually almost worth the stupid prices.
>> No. 5025 Anonymous
31st January 2020
Friday 11:32 pm
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Type and time. The flouride in the tooth paste needs some time to do its job properly, if you just scrub-scrub-rinse you're only getting half the effect. This is part of the reason why you're supposed to brush for X minutes and why mouthwash generally recommends to not rinse at all after use.
>> No. 5026 Anonymous
1st February 2020
Saturday 8:19 am
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>why mouthwash generally recommends to not rinse at all after use.

I remember arguing with my older brother about this as a kid, I generally didn't rinse.

Have I been right all these years? Any downsides to not rinsing?
>> No. 5027 Anonymous
1st February 2020
Saturday 4:13 pm
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I've heard thw rinse or not debate, too. Not rinsing certainly seems to keep your mouth fresh for longer, and morning breth becomes less of a problem. But i'm concerned at leaving so much floride to be absorbed into my body, twice or even three times daily. Lets not delve too deep into the /boo/ of it all, though.
>> No. 5028 Anonymous
1st February 2020
Saturday 9:02 pm
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Sonicare toothbrushes have a habit of breaking just after the two year warranty period, too.
>> No. 5029 Anonymous
1st February 2020
Saturday 9:45 pm
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Oral-B are fine if you get the cheap to mid-range ones when they're on sale.
The batteries tend to be the first thing that wear out, if you have a socket in the bathroom it's easy enough to just leave them on charge all day so it's not too much of an issue. The next thing to wear out is the plastic neck that the brush fits onto, I think they intentionally make them out of too-soft plastic but I've still got 4-5 years out of every one I've had.
>> No. 5032 Anonymous
2nd February 2020
Sunday 1:32 pm
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>The batteries tend to be the first thing that wear out
>leave them on charge all day so it's not too much of an issue

Isn't that exactly how a battery is worn out?
I thought the healthiest way to use a battery is to deplete it completely before recharging.
>> No. 5033 Anonymous
2nd February 2020
Sunday 2:08 pm
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Every electric toothbrush I've seen uses NiMh rather than Li-Ion batteries. NiMh batteries are absolutely fine with being trickle-charged all day.

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