I'm giving up caffeine, crisps, chocolate and sweets in general. On the first day I had an incredible headache from going cold-turkey with the caffeine but it's all gone now. I've got a pack of pickled onion monster munch put away for Easter Sunday.
You know who thinks suffering builds character? abused who grow up to be abusers and perverts. Suffering is just suffering there is nothing bettering about it. It is just a lie to keep us all from going nuts when we meet someone who gets everything we ever wanted but couldn't have and treats it with contempt.
>>5613 Working on your self-discipline isn't a cult of suffering you whelk. You might as well be whinging about getting acclimatised by going out when it's cold/hot.
>>5621 >The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services reported that about 30% of adults who were abused and neglected as children will later abuse their own children. However, this “cycle of abuse” is not inevitable. While past abuse is one indicator for future abuse, it is not the only one. Some research indicates that if a child is able to disclose an incident of abuse early on and is supported by people who believe the claim is real, the child is less likely to become an adult perpetrator of abuse.
https://www.childadvocates.net/8-myths-about-child-abuse/
>Male sexual abuse victims rarely go on to become perpetrators of sexual abuse.12, 13
>12. Leach, C., Stewart, A., & Smallbone, S. (2016). Testing the sexually abused-sexual abuser hypothesis: A prospective longitudinal birth cohort study. Child Abuse & Neglect, 51, 144-153.
>13. Widom, C. S., & Massey, C. (2015). A prospective examination of whether childhood sexual abuse predicts subsequent sexual offending. JAMA Pediatrics, 169(1), e143357- e143357.
https://nationalcac.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/FINAL-10-Common-Myths-with-References.pdf
>Reality: The "cycle of violence" came from a single, qualitative study more than 30 years ago. There is growing evidence that this does not describe every person who has committed violence. We need evidence-based practice that uses the best and most up-to-date research to inform practice and policy.
>Domestic violence is a complicated problem that needs a thoughtful response that addresses all the many risk that many victims face. If you want to help women who have been victims of domestic violence, listen to their assessments of what is important, respect their values, and help them come up with a plan or seek resources that address all of the complexities and realities of domestic violence.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-web-violence/201405/domestic-violence-learning-see-past-the-stereotypes
You know who gets hurt by the myth that abuse creates abusers? Abused people.
>this does not describe every person who has committed violence
No shit professors, nobody was saying that in the first place. Just speaking from my own totally anecdotal experience in life, not all abusees go on to be abusers; but I would say most abusers have been abusees.
Credit to you for finding all those studies, but the fact we've had to go to all this trouble because someone artistically interprets a generalised statement as an absolutist black and white law of nature says something.
You autists seem to have taken a very specific thing I said distorted it to mean something else and run with it.
I said "That people who are abusers who were abused as children believe suffering builds character".
Not "that all people who are abused grow up to be abusers."
People who were abused who don't become abusers tend to shudder at the thought that someone would argue suffering builds character for quite obvious reasons.
>>5615 If you don't see how lent is heavily entwined with catholic guilt and flagellation than you probably shouldn't be talking.
>>5629 My agenda is that going round telling victims of abuse that they're just as bad as the people who abused them, without any basis for that, is a shitty thing to do.
What an odd historical reference, despite a fairly detailed knowledge of the Crisis of the Third Century, I really have no idea what you are trying to say.
For sure, implying the other person is undergoing therapy in a thread about abuse and trauma is a totally innocent, unrelated-to-the-context thing to say. That's not at all making light of those things.
>>5637 In his persecution of the Christians. Also in his formalisation of the methods by which the senior Augusti would abdicate and their successors would ascend, but there's too many counter-factuals to consider when deciding how that might have prevented this thread from coming about.
No it isn't making light of them at all. You are so defensive in this topic that it doesn't take Freud to work out that there is something else going on. You take everything in the worst way and think neutral statements are attacks.
I think you need therapy because whatever affected you is still defining the way you approach the world.
>It is just a lie to keep us all from going nuts when we meet someone who gets everything we ever wanted but couldn't have and treats it with contempt.
Labour voters are tremendously easy to spot these days.
I understand why you would think that, but weirdly I have never voted labour, or a socialist party.
I care about liberalism more, and find most left wing groups only want to tear down bias to just impose their own bias. Essentially they fetishise the underdogs.
They talk like that because they don't want to rub people the wrong way or what they said taken in bad faith, but about half the population is deliberately trying to do that at all times.
The sort of politician who says something like "Black people are criminals" then when called out for it, comes back with "Obviously I didn't mean all black people are criminals, just the minority who are. You're turning my general statement into a blanket statement and reading things into it that aren't there. Anyone who disagrees with me is obviously just black themselves".
"there is a problem with much higher crime within the black community we need to deal with and find the route cause of"
"why are you saying all black people are criminals"
"I didn't"
"you are just a dog whistling racist and inferring all black people are criminals"
"I wasn't"
"yes you are, you must be!"
-Problem continues with no solution and people can't even talk about the problem to find a solution-
He didn't say that though, he said
>abused who grow up to be abusers and perverts.
It's still there, you can read it for yourself. Do you know how to scroll up?
