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>> No. 26313 Anonymous
9th February 2018
Friday 12:45 am
26313 Value Tablets in 2018
Alright lads.

Bad news, my £100 Tesco Hudl 2 shit the bed a while ago.

Unfortunately they've stopped making them, so I've been scraping the lower end of the market for a replacement. There's nothing really catching my eye as good value, even the wanky half-sales websites like Which? and CNET are saying as much.

My budget is probably £250 absolute max, preferably around the £200 mark.

>preferably 10" screen, as long as it's not distinctly noted as being shit quality I don't mind
>proper Android OS, nothing Amazon or Chinese proprietary
>expandable memory (32Gb+)
>smooth general operation and HD playback
>not fussed about camera quality at all

Any tips?

To be fair I'd only really use it for browsing and watching videos. I've been looking at the Lenovos, Asus and particularly the cheaper Samsungs, but there's dozens of them.
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>> No. 26314 Anonymous
9th February 2018
Friday 1:03 am
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>>26313
Refurb ipads can go for less than you specify. If all you do is browse and stream, i.e. you don't care about "apps", then most of them will do the job. If you intend to reflash the device, then of course stay clear.
>> No. 26315 Anonymous
9th February 2018
Friday 1:13 am
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>>26313
>>26314

He did say "proper Android OS, nothing Amazon or Chinese proprietary" so I guess that having proper app / Play Store support is important.

For anything Android my go-to is always a second hand low-milage Nexus whatever off Ebay. I would never buy a brand new tablet because A) the market has really tanked lately, tablets (being the sort of middle child between phones and laptops) never really took off like everyone said they would and thus market availability is fairly crap and B) due to A there hasn't been that much in the way of real innovation in tablets or phones in forever - at the end of the day how many more CPU cores do you need to play angry birds and call the missus a cunt over Whatsapp?
>> No. 26316 Anonymous
9th February 2018
Friday 1:21 am
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>>26315
>>26314

Thanks chaps.

I've had an odd moment of clarity. Ebuyer sell a brand called Hannsfree. There's a ridiculous 13" tablet for £160 or so but that seems simply too big. But the 11" Hannspad Poseidon for £127 actually seems decent, not that there's more than a dozen reviews on the thing.

I think it actually meets my criteria perfectly: bigger but decidedly average screen, expandable memory (32Gb), and as mentioned smooth operation if you just want to call the missus a cunt on Whatsapp.
>> No. 26317 Anonymous
11th February 2018
Sunday 12:43 pm
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If you don't mind used get down to your local Cash Generator or CEX. No doubt someone bought a cheaper one for their spoilt screaming little shit who promptly demanded the next one up.
>> No. 26318 Anonymous
11th February 2018
Sunday 10:23 pm
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>>26317
Doesn't CEX have a >30% premium over eBay?
>> No. 26319 Anonymous
11th February 2018
Sunday 10:29 pm
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>>26318

Not in my experience. I don't really shop around for tablets, but in the stuff I do look for - audio, photography, and music equipment - they seem to be competitive.
>> No. 26320 Anonymous
12th February 2018
Monday 11:41 am
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>>26318
Not these days. Plus, you get the item in your hands without having to pay for and then wait for postage. Also, and a 12-month guarantee, which is probably worth the actual 10% or so markup over eBay.

In my experience, too, Cash Converters/Generator are open to haggling. My mate wanted a camera and managed to haggle a Canon 100D with 18-55, 70-300, a flash, and a bag, and spare battery all in to £300 because it'd been sat there a month or so.
>> No. 26321 Anonymous
12th February 2018
Monday 4:23 pm
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>>26320
They upped the guarantee to 24 months a while back.
>> No. 26322 Anonymous
12th February 2018
Monday 5:13 pm
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>>26319 >>26320
I had a very quick look. The second product I looked at (Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 T230) is 50% cheaper on eBay. You can even buy it brand new for cheaper than they sell it used.
>> No. 26323 Anonymous
12th February 2018
Monday 6:21 pm
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>>26322
That happens often, but their prices usually reflect demand rather than market value and you can get most things cheaper. They charge more for things that sell well, which is why you can still find Gamecube games going for £40 in CeX that you can get cheaper on Ebay.
>> No. 26345 Anonymous
19th March 2018
Monday 11:50 am
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A bit of a necrobump, but someone might want to know that Fire tablets are back on sale for Easter. £35 for the 7", £60 for the 8" and £120 for the 10".

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01J90O0N4/
>> No. 26346 Anonymous
19th March 2018
Monday 12:14 pm
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>>26345

Thanks mate. Have been looking for something to read some ebooks and are about on some simple apps.
>> No. 26347 Anonymous
19th March 2018
Monday 12:49 pm
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>>26345
The Fire 7 is fantastic for the price - I bought one just to run apps for a) my rowing machine and b) the OBD2 port on my car. The equivalents for iOS/iPad cost way more money and aren't worth the difference.
>> No. 26348 Anonymous
19th March 2018
Monday 1:03 pm
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>>26346
A used Kindle e-ink is FAR better for reading ebooks and really not much these days.

>>26347
Piston is free for iOS iirc.
>> No. 26349 Anonymous
19th March 2018
Monday 1:15 pm
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>>26348
>A used Kindle e-ink is FAR better for reading ebooks

Yeah - thats a different use case. I have completely taken to using my normal Kindle every day to read books - even have a spare. They are practically disposable devices they're so cheap and the screen is fantastic, particularly the slightly backlight one. Everyone should have one.

>Piston
I will look it up - thanks - I hadn't been able to find any iOS apps that talk to the OBD2 dongles. They're really cheap now, about 10 quid from Amazon, but there is clearly something about how they connect or the certification process that Apple are blocking them all. The only one that isn't in the Amazon App Store which looks really good is Torque.

Getting data out of the OBD2 and the car is my new favourite hacking. It has actually made me want to change out the car radio into one of these little double-DIN Android/PC boxes that do all the things.
>> No. 26350 Anonymous
19th March 2018
Monday 3:34 pm
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>>26349

>Torque

I can heartily recommend torque. It's nicely configurable and as technical as you want it to be.

>want to change out the car radio into one of these little double-DIN Android/PC boxes that do all the things

I can recommend that too. The Pumpkin ones they sell on amazon are great, fairly powerful for what they are. The one I bought was about 200 quid but it came with a fuckload of accesories - two cameras, 4G dongle, DAB unit, and some other stuff. They've got surprisingly decent DAC on board too.

It's really fucking fun to run Torque live on it, especially since it logs quarter mile speeds and live graphs of pressures and speeds basically everything you want.

I'm about to start the painful process of hacking one into the Disco so I can have live terrain views for off-roading.
>> No. 26351 Anonymous
19th March 2018
Monday 4:09 pm
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>>26350
>Pumpkin ones they sell on amazon are great

Thanks lad, that was going to be my next thread - wondered if someone round here had done it. How well did it integrate with existing peripherals in the car? Mine is a VW with parking sensors (which I love), I would like to add the Pumpkin but don't really want to have to remove or rewire the existing microphone, speakers and sensors. Kind of hoping I just yank the existing radio out and plug everything back in, but I know how optimistic that idea is.

Yeah the OBD2 thing while live is fucking amazing. I have been trying out the various apps while having the Kindle mounted on the dashboard, getting the real-time graphs and that as you're moving is like something straight off the F1 pit-wall; only on an a VW MPV and using a fifty quid Kindle.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pumpkin-Android-Support-Bluetooth-Subwoofer/dp/B0776T1Y3K/ref=pd_sbs_107_5?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=DP2SH9RTM4NMPSV275F4
>> No. 26352 Anonymous
19th March 2018
Monday 4:30 pm
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>>26351
>>26350
Of the three cars I have owned, my first two had OBD2 and I couldn't get any more info than your basic error codes at best on my first, and the second (a Volvo V40) would not talk to anything over OBD2, ever. I checked the wiring and fuses as best I could but it never did.

My car these days has OBD1, so God help me if it ever spits out a code.
>> No. 26353 Anonymous
19th March 2018
Monday 5:08 pm
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>>26351

>Kind of hoping I just yank the existing radio out and plug everything back in, but I know how optimistic that idea is.

Actually, that's often exactly how it works. I can only speak for the cars of about five to ten years ago because it's what I tend to buy, but typically if you have a thing that controls your radio, or puts sound through your audio system, it's all done through the ISO plug on the back. It's often plug and play, or at the very worst 'buy an adaptor from Halfords and play'.

The fact my 1994 Landy can do the volume on a 2017 Sony head unit should say a lot. Car electronics are pretty fucking primitive.
>> No. 26354 Anonymous
19th March 2018
Monday 5:20 pm
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>>26353

I also just realised that when I had one in the Skoda it worked fine with the sensors, and that's essentially VW. I really think they just output analog audio to the head unit.

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