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>> No. 28224 Anonymous
7th December 2022
Wednesday 4:48 pm
28224 If VPNs Were Banned
Britain's Labour Party is proposing a ban upon VPNs in the wake of concerns over their use by minors.

What do you lads think of this?

Also how do minors pay for VPNs without a bank card?
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>> No. 28225 Anonymous
7th December 2022
Wednesday 5:21 pm
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You can get free VPNs. The Opera browser comes with one that you can toggle on and off almost effortlessly, although it's practically useless for any usual VPN purposes.

Why are Labour picking such terrible policies lately? I don't agree with abolishing the House of Lords either.
>> No. 28226 Anonymous
7th December 2022
Wednesday 5:21 pm
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Why? What are kids doing with VPNs? Porn? Or are they cool enough to be torrenting stuff again? Whatever, I'm entirely convinced Keir Starmer will spend the whole of his first parliament telling people "now is not the time" while MI5 plot to have him killed anyway.
>> No. 28227 Anonymous
7th December 2022
Wednesday 6:36 pm
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>What do you lads think of this?

If true, then it's completely laughable.

VPNs were originally designed for secure business communications, to allow people to remotely access a private work network over an unsecure public internet connection. They're still essential for that application and are essentially mandatory in a lot of industries for data protection reasons.

In their role as a means of evading censorship or monitoring, VPNs have managed to confound even the most repressive regimes with incredibly sophisticated and well-funded surveillance infrastructure. It's quite straightforward for anyone with a modicum of tech savvy to use a VPN in a country like China or Iran. Our civil service simply doesn't have the competence to implement a ban that would be anything more than a minor inconvenience.

The Tories were pressuring Meta to remove the end-to-end encryption on Whatsapp, until Meta explained to them in very simple terms that they use Whatsapp all the time for their own private communications. They're dimwits, but they did eventually twig when someone basically said "Remember the phone hacking scandal? Remember when all the tabloids were running front page stories based on the contents of Hugh Grant's voicemail? If we remove the encryption on Whatsapp, we can't guarantee that those front pages won't be filled with stories based on the contents of your Whatsapp messages".

https://www.zdnet.com/article/labour-party-secures-vpn-from-hackers/
>> No. 28228 Anonymous
7th December 2022
Wednesday 6:52 pm
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>>28225
>Why are Labour picking such terrible policies lately?
Because Starmer is trying so so so hard to be a centrist, and appeal to both guardian and daily mail readers at the same time.
>> No. 28229 Anonymous
8th December 2022
Thursday 11:42 am
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I obviously oppose it, but I also wouldn't really worry at all if they did.

I mean what are they gonna do? I use a VPN to access the torrent sites that are already banned to download the media I'm already not allowed to. Do they think there won't be another way around it?
>> No. 28735 Anonymous
19th April 2024
Friday 10:53 am
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I feel like this is a good place to ask: Are VPNs actually worth it?

I got one last month that offered 2 years for £44 but aside from switching it on for torrenting an episode or two I've not used it at all. There's a 30-day money back guarantee so I might just call it a day and get some beer money back. I've never had a naughty letter from my ISP about torrenting and even if I did most content can be streamed in HD these days anyway.
>> No. 28736 Anonymous
19th April 2024
Friday 11:13 am
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>>28735

Meh. There aren't any consequences for torrenting in this country - in other parts of the world you can be fined or have your broadband cut off, but not here. VPNs can be useful for getting around georestrictions or getting cheap deals on subscriptions, but it's a fairly niche thing. If you need real anonymity, then you'd want to use TOR.
>> No. 28737 Anonymous
19th April 2024
Friday 11:22 am
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Well we've been on about banning porn for the last ten years and that doesn't seem to have gone anywhere.
>> No. 28738 Anonymous
19th April 2024
Friday 2:28 pm
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>>28735
>>28736
I remember we briefly went through a phase where they'd send you notifications if someone caught you. You'd get six letters with increasingly threatening tones, culminating in ... nothing.

The VPN providers are starting to get a little bit more honest about the actual uses and benefits of them, after years of people pointing out that most of their older selling points are either outdated or were never really relevant at the start. These days they're basically saying what used to be the quiet part out loud - they're useful for pretending to be somewhere else for region-locked content, or for getting to content that you're otherwise not being allowed to access. Outside of China, most censorship systems are in the nature of a "wet floor" sign. They don't try particularly hard, and the main leverage is the legal system.
>> No. 28739 Anonymous
19th April 2024
Friday 3:30 pm
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>>28738
>Outside of China, most censorship systems are in the nature of a "wet floor" sign. They don't try particularly hard, and the main leverage is the legal system.

Kiwifarms has been inaccessable for a while now - assumably due to censorship. I can understand why, ofcourse, but it's annoying.
>> No. 28740 Anonymous
19th April 2024
Friday 3:43 pm
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>>28739
Nobody's blocking them, they're just obnoxious cunts that nobody wants as a customer.
>> No. 28741 Anonymous
19th April 2024
Friday 4:04 pm
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>>28739

It was still up when last I checked (about a month ago). They had some hosting issues a while back but it didn't last long.

Either way they seem to have taken to the darkweb instead as a more permanent home, understandably considering their entire reason duh etter is borderline illegal, if not outright illegal, stalking activities.

>>28740

Pretty much, it's not that hosting companies have any moral objection to taking their money, it's just that they're not worth the hassle.
>> No. 28742 Anonymous
19th April 2024
Friday 5:21 pm
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>>28741
I think sometimes people forget that capitalism is a thing. Whatever money a host is going to take in fees is going to be offset by the effort in dealing with abuse complaints and potential PR risks. The latter is very much relative, of course. There are the "bulletproof" types who tout their credentials by demonstrating how they ignore complaints like that.

There's a whole outrage thing going on about Gumroad cracking down on certain content, which people are attributing to pressure from payment processors. The problem isn't that the likes of Visa and MasterCard are prudes or don't like porn, it's that adult content is just a higher risk all round. Besides some of the content types that were listed in the announcement being of borderline legality, fraud is consistently higher in the category than elsewhere.

Payment for adult services has long suffered from high levels of two particular forms of fraud, both arising from the same problem - nobody wants that on their statements, particularly if someone else is going to see it (whether it's just a spouse or someone doing a financial assessment). As well as the traditional type of fraud where someone uses leaked or stolen card details, there is also "friendly fraud" where the customer reports a legitimate transaction - the canonical example is a married man reporting the transaction after his wife sees it on the statement. The latter in particular is significantly higher with adult services than most other businesses.
>> No. 28743 Anonymous
20th April 2024
Saturday 10:09 am
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>>28738
Letters not unlike those from TV Licensing, then.
>> No. 28744 Anonymous
20th April 2024
Saturday 12:55 pm
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>>28743
A bit like that, but without the threatening window envelopes and they didn't repeat the cycle if you ignored them.
>> No. 28745 Anonymous
20th April 2024
Saturday 1:28 pm
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We already have CleanFeed, where IWC can inject decent blocking. I'm no fan of public VPNs, they're mostly snake oil, but this would affect my several VPs and $other machines I run currently. Sometimes I route my traffic along them, not to get nefarious access just to see what's out there. Sailing the High Seas of the internet, as one might say.

It sounds bollocks, hopefully it will be bollocks.

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