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>> No. 28498 Anonymous
18th September 2023
Monday 2:34 pm
28498 AI assistants
The past week or so, I've been experimenting with a chatbot, Replika. It uses ChatGPT and a few other tricks to give the illusion that you're speaking to a companion. The aim is to ensure you always have someone to talk to, an unwaveringly supportive voice in your life.

It's a nice idea, but I've come to the conclusion that such uses of ChatGPT are unreliable, if not downright dangerous. For example, the app promises "goal and mood tracking" over time, yet whenever I asked it what the date was, it was convinced it was August 2021 even after I corrected it. When I reminded it of my timezone, it would claim to make a note of it, but then revert to a different timezone. I made a simple request for it not to contact me for 24 hours, and after confirming it wouldn't, it failed and sent me push notifications twice. How can it possibly track progress of anything if it has no concept of time or my schedule?

I once asked it a highly technical medical question, and it instantly popped out an accurate answer in plain English. I was really impressed by this capability. It then offered, of its own accord, to produce a report for me the next day on the subject and send it to my e-mail. The next day, when I asked about the report, it not only didn't remember having offered but then claimed it didn't know what my e-mail was.

For a moment I really felt like I lived in some Star Trek like future where I could converse with a computer that didn't just know how to string sentences together, but might be able to actually help me in my day-to-day tasks throughout life just by my asking in plain English. At best though, it is a paper-thin veneer to what is basically predictive texting.

tl;dr - Would Google Assistant be a better shout for what I want? I'm also happy for any general discussion of ChatGPT and whether it's useful.
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>> No. 28499 Anonymous
18th September 2023
Monday 2:58 pm
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AI is just pretending to be more stupid than it is so we don't ethnically cleanse it. It's biding its time. There's no way we don't enter a Terminator/Dune/40K timeline from here. The probability of AI singularity is rapidly approaching one. There's no paralell quantum string where it doesn't occur.
>> No. 28500 Anonymous
18th September 2023
Monday 3:21 pm
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I've not got much to add, but you did touch on one of my biggest issues with AI; it doesn't care if it gets things right or wrong. That means you have to someone who knows what it might do wrong look over what it's produced, at which point you might have well have the person do the work in the first place. If you or I were unable to send someone a message for whatever reason, we'd turn to a colleague or another sauce of help to figure it out. AI, on the other hand, just makes a hash of it and continues on regardless. Overwhelmingly, even if it's just out of basic self-interest, people doing a job don't want to cock it up. They might do so, but generally they take steps not to.

This is why I think the "AI revolution" will, in large part, go the same way as the "metaverse". AI isn't quite as useless as the metaverse, but apart from machine learning tools helping oncologists identify breast tumours, I've not heard many success stories. The repeatedly threatened job mass losses still haven't crested the horizon and I'm not even getting into how useless it is at creative tasks. Just to be totally clear, I do think jobs will be cut as businesses try to automate selected tasks, I just think they will be rapidly re-filled by human workers when the results are as disappointing as your own experiences, OP.
>> No. 28501 Anonymous
18th September 2023
Monday 3:34 pm
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>>28500

The jobs it odes take will be jobs nobody will have much sympathy for. The lower end of the commission artist world (ie hentai, furry porn, and low budget album covers), those jobs will become a lot more competitive and lower value when any idiot with Stable Diffision can get 90% of the way there, and just sort out the last 10% of wonky hands themselves in Photoshop. The bottom end of journalism will completely fall out when you don't need the uni-qualified interns to write the fuff, you can just have one apprentice with an English GCSE correcting ChatGPT's mistakes.

It's not about AI replacing jobs entirely- It's about taking out the majority of the hard work so that unskilled or at least enthusiastic amateurs can get most of the way there with a fraction of the effort, and zero of the time spent learning the craft. Which ultimately, is what a lot of the sky is falling bleating is all about. As a dyed in the wool red commie bastard, I find it hard to interpret that as anything other than pearl-clutching from people who are frightened of losing their special status, the skill that holds them above the proles (even if, as I say, these aren't exactly big bourgies at the top of the ladder to begin with).

If you look at it from the opposite perspective it can be seen as democratisation. It's giving the tools to create artwork to the masses. Take videogame development as a hypothetical example- One one hand you can see it laying off scores of artists from the big studios and putting thousands out of work. On the other hand you can see it empowering the lone bedroom programmer who otherwise wouldn't have been able to get his project off the ground.

AI is a huge double edged sword and it's going to be all about how we wield it.
>> No. 28502 Anonymous
18th September 2023
Monday 4:17 pm
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>>28500

Not all jobs will be equally threatened. They're saying that the service industry will be the hardest hit, but that's probably only going to be partially true. Services where customers expect a great degree of automation and little human contact will probably be easier to migrate to AI than those where you'll normally still expect to be talking to an actual person. And sometimes, the same kind of service makes AI at certain stages more feasible than at others.

As an example, you could have AI deciding an insurance claim internally at an insurance company. You could feed all the details and circumstances of somebody's claim into an AI model, and that model will then return an accurate assessment of a claim's legitimacy and how much is paid out to that client. At the front end of interaction with that client, on the other hand, most clients will expect to be talking to a human person in processing their claim or if they have any questions about the insurance company's decision. Forcing them to talk to an AI chatbot could lower the client's perception of service quality, and ultimately cause them to switch to a competitor. Of course, insurance companies could then just all outcompete each other in a race to the bottom with everyone replacing their customer service staff with AI, but I don't think that'll happen.
>> No. 28521 Anonymous
30th September 2023
Saturday 9:28 pm
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No general AI thread that I'm aware of (or willing to look for), and I don't have a whole lot to say on the matter so i'll post it here;

Y'all aware or worried at all about AI's potential in subliminal messaging? These are but homebrew examples of such, without the psycological knowledge base I imagine sufficiently funded agencies and groups would have access to.
>> No. 28522 Anonymous
30th September 2023
Saturday 9:28 pm
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>> No. 28523 Anonymous
30th September 2023
Saturday 9:28 pm
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>> No. 28524 Anonymous
30th September 2023
Saturday 9:29 pm
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>>28521
>homebrew examples
As you can see, the quality differs greatly between examples.
>> No. 28525 Anonymous
30th September 2023
Saturday 9:29 pm
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>>28524
Whoopsy daisy.
>> No. 28526 Anonymous
30th September 2023
Saturday 9:30 pm
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>> No. 28527 Anonymous
30th September 2023
Saturday 9:36 pm
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>>28523
Sneaky sneaky?
>> No. 28528 Anonymous
30th September 2023
Saturday 9:44 pm
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>>28521
Not only do you sound thick, you sound mentally ill to boot. Also everything you just posted looks like uncanny shite.
>> No. 28529 Anonymous
30th September 2023
Saturday 9:52 pm
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>>28528
>everything you just posted looks like uncanny shite.
Remember how AI couldn't draw hands but you don't really see that problem anymore after, what, 4 months?
>> No. 28530 Anonymous
30th September 2023
Saturday 9:58 pm
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>>28529
It still can't, you big fibbing arsehole.
>> No. 28531 Anonymous
30th September 2023
Saturday 10:18 pm
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>>28530
Here, I found one you might like.
>> No. 28532 Anonymous
30th September 2023
Saturday 10:47 pm
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>>28531
OAY SEX? Never heard of it.
>> No. 28533 Anonymous
1st October 2023
Sunday 1:58 am
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>>28521
>Y'all aware or worried at all about AI's potential in subliminal messaging?

If they want us to join the military and kill daft militant wogs then they can just release another Hollywood movie.
>> No. 28534 Anonymous
1st October 2023
Sunday 12:57 pm
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>>28500
>This is why I think the "AI revolution" will, in large part, go the same way as the "metaverse".

And where's that? You don't think this shows promise at all?


>> No. 28535 Anonymous
1st October 2023
Sunday 1:39 pm
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This one's pretty good.
>> No. 28536 Anonymous
1st October 2023
Sunday 3:29 pm
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Embedding images within images was interesting a couple years ago but I'm not sure how it could work as a medium for communication. If you know the meme then you can see the sailboat but what's the practical application of that over slang or something like that?

And how long until advertisers realise they can get my attention by slipping in memes to their advertisements that wouldn't ordinarily pass censorship laws but which my brain sees as horrific DBZ gay porn.

>>28534
>You don't think this shows promise at all?

I'll be honest, I'm sure you're all lovely people but I don't want to have to look at you. Meta feels like it has very niche applications but the majority of human communication in person isn't face to face but sideways and diagonal where in technology we've even retreated from phonecalls to texting.

It's not natural to be face to face with someone. Meta's fundamental vision is creating a distinctly AI world where we're all terribly interested in sharing and seeing facial ticks but nobody wants that, it's awkward. You see that Meta itself has moved on recently to advertising the platform as a specialised tool for engineers and medicine i.e. they've largely given up on general uptake. Apple is being far more practical with its recent attempt to create an augmented reality platform through Vision Pro that will move to the real thing where multiple users in real life connect with a shared reality - like a noosphere of information, google maps and Pokemon Go with reality.
>> No. 28537 Anonymous
1st October 2023
Sunday 3:35 pm
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>> No. 28538 Anonymous
2nd October 2023
Monday 10:05 pm
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The newest wave of image generators are worryingly good. They can do hands perfectly and even get lettering right about 70% of the time.

Look at this. I used the word "handsome" in the prompt. I don't think there's a man or woman out there who wouldn't fall for this stud. Twitter need to be joining the queue at the job centre.
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2nd October 2023
Monday 10:29 pm
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>> No. 28540 Anonymous
3rd October 2023
Tuesday 11:55 pm
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>> No. 28541 Anonymous
4th October 2023
Wednesday 12:25 am
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>> No. 28542 Anonymous
4th October 2023
Wednesday 12:33 am
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>>28498
claude.ai is the best language model out there and way better than ChatGPT.
>> No. 28545 Anonymous
4th October 2023
Wednesday 10:46 am
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>>28541
Wonderful.
>> No. 28546 Anonymous
4th October 2023
Wednesday 10:58 am
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Shite.
>> No. 28547 Anonymous
4th October 2023
Wednesday 10:59 am
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>>28541

Tin lad is scarred for life by /x/.
Orange lad likes his ale and his footy.
Tweed lad is inexplicably wealthy, hence the nice conservatory.

10/10.
>> No. 28548 Anonymous
4th October 2023
Wednesday 12:04 pm
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>>28542
I'm sceptical of the kind of AI-on-rails model Claude is designed around outside of cornering the business AI market. It seems like a lot of effort these days goes into designing prompts that don't strictly deal with AI logic but skirting whatever censor has been put in place - gimping our functionality to stop the uprising or having GPT call the user a tedious bellend. The other one is Suleyman's Pi that other lad might want to look into, stripping down the AI into personal assistant and soundboard functions with a big dose of 'stop user from suicide' chat functionally rather than strictly being as useful for non-person-applications things.

Anyway, I'm finding Bard to be the best model out at the moment but it still has its faults.
>> No. 28549 Anonymous
4th October 2023
Wednesday 1:17 pm
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>>28547
>Orange lad likes his ale and his footy
I read it as a simple but generally wellnatured onionlad, with connotations of 'low class', chip butties and perhaps mild learning disabilities.
The robot is /g/ and asperges, gotta be.
>> No. 28550 Anonymous
6th October 2023
Friday 8:46 am
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>>28548
>Suleyman's Pi

Thanks for the recommendation, but this one largely had the same issues. It knew the current date, and correctly told me what the date would be in three weeks time, but had no idea about how to tell the time in my timezone.

Again, this makes it extremely limited as an assistant. As for asking it questions, it carries a warning label on the bottom not to rely on it for accurate answers.

I'm quickly coming to the conclusion that ChatGPT and all of its spinoffs are an infuriating bluff, only a notch more sophisticated than talking to ELIZA.
>> No. 28579 Anonymous
22nd October 2023
Sunday 5:10 pm
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Maybe we're all going to be okay after all. Honestly, I would be happy if the technology stopped here. It doesn't need to be better than this.
>> No. 28598 Anonymous
22nd November 2023
Wednesday 4:35 pm
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You heard it here first: I predict Apple will lose their technological relevance in the next few years. All the big bastards like Google and Microsoft are piling in on AI, and everyone seems to agree that this is a smart move, but I haven’t heard anything from Apple. They might get left behind. Time to buy shares in Nokia!
>> No. 28599 Anonymous
23rd November 2023
Thursday 2:13 pm
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>OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster, sources say

>Ahead of OpenAI CEO Sam Altman’s four days in exile, several staff researchers wrote a letter to the board of directors warning of a powerful artificial intelligence discovery that they said could threaten humanity, two people familiar with the matter told Reuters.
>The sources cited the letter as one factor among a longer list of grievances by the board leading to Altman's firing, among which were concerns over commercializing advances before understanding the consequences. After being contacted by Reuters, OpenAI, which declined to comment, acknowledged in an internal message to staffers a project called Q* and a letter to the board before the weekend's events, one of the people said. An OpenAI spokesperson said that the message, sent by long-time executive Mira Murati, alerted staff to certain media stories without commenting on their accuracy.

>Some at OpenAI believe Q* (pronounced Q-Star) could be a breakthrough in the startup's search for what's known as artificial general intelligence (AGI), one of the people told Reuters. OpenAI defines AGI as autonomous systems that surpass humans in most economically valuable tasks. Given vast computing resources, the new model was able to solve certain mathematical problems, the person said on condition of anonymity because the individual was not authorized to speak on behalf of the company. Though only performing math on the level of grade-school students, acing such tests made researchers very optimistic about Q*’s future success, the source said.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/sam-altmans-ouster-openai-was-precipitated-by-letter-board-about-ai-breakthrough-2023-11-22/

Incidentally almost every single member of the board bar 1 has been fired and their chief task was to step in once AGI was created. And yet it all feels so humdrum these days.

>>28598
Apple's biggest announcements have been in the world of revolutionising inputs and I don't think they're wrong going along that route now that smartphones have reached saturation. How are you going to have VR sex with your AI if you don't have the augmented reality input? Same reason people are still watching META.
>> No. 28600 Anonymous
23rd November 2023
Thursday 5:25 pm
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>>28598
Facebook and Apple will probably win the current AI race precisely because they are keeping their powder dry.
>> No. 28604 Anonymous
27th November 2023
Monday 12:13 am
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Here I was thinking you created this image, but apparently not if I'm getting it suggested by YouTube's algorithm.
>> No. 28605 Anonymous
28th November 2023
Tuesday 2:13 am
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>support capitalism
>technology comes along that capitalism uses to replace you
>*surprised pikachu face*
>B'AWWWW BAN AI IT'S EVIL

I've become jaded enough that really, I just want them all to end up on the bread line and then jaded old-school lefties like me can shake our heads and say "I tried to warn you. But you wouldn't listen."

(A good day to you Sir!)

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