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>> No. 12102 Anonymous
6th March 2018
Tuesday 6:45 pm
12102 Looking for jobs outside NHS
So I've worked for the NHS most of my adult life and whenever I've needed a job I've just gone on the NHS jobs website. I'm now considering leaving the NHS and looking for something maybe related but not with the same level of bullshit, I guess.

How do normal people find jobs?
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>> No. 12103 Anonymous
6th March 2018
Tuesday 7:13 pm
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https://www.totaljobs.com/
https://www.monster.co.uk/
https://www.indeed.co.uk

etc. etc.
>> No. 12104 Anonymous
6th March 2018
Tuesday 7:17 pm
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>>12103 I was afraid that was the answer, there's not an awful lot on those sites.
>> No. 12105 Anonymous
6th March 2018
Tuesday 7:22 pm
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>>12104

What are you looking for?
>> No. 12106 Anonymous
6th March 2018
Tuesday 7:26 pm
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>>12105 Ideally mental health related, but not working in a hospital. Also not being a DWP/PIP assessor, because that might just destroy my soul.
>> No. 12107 Anonymous
6th March 2018
Tuesday 7:27 pm
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>>12106 I should probably just clarify I'm a mental health nurse. I generally don't like to admit it on here because we generally aren't the most popular of folk.
>> No. 12108 Anonymous
6th March 2018
Tuesday 7:31 pm
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>>12106
So you'd like to work for a mental health charity? Have you tried looking at the websites of the ones in your area?
>> No. 12109 Anonymous
6th March 2018
Tuesday 7:33 pm
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>>12106
Go to an agency and get twice the money for doing the same work?
>> No. 12110 Anonymous
6th March 2018
Tuesday 7:53 pm
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>>12109 There's a reason that you get paid twice the same amount - they can't retain staff and/or it's a horrible place to work.

>>12108 Charities aren't a bad shout, actually.
>> No. 12115 Anonymous
6th March 2018
Tuesday 9:29 pm
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>So I've worked for the NHS most of my adult life
>considering leaving the NHS

As a long suffering private sector worker who got into the NHS a couple of years back, I can tell you you're in for a severe system shock on the other side of the fence.

There's loads of people at my place who always bitch and moan about the ridiculously cushy jobs we have. People don't realise how easy they have it in the last bastion of socialism in our land.

If it's the allure of higher pay tempting you, just be aware that the grass isn't always that much greener.
>> No. 12116 Anonymous
6th March 2018
Tuesday 10:02 pm
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>>12115 It's not the higher pay, and I'm fully aware that the NHS has good pension, good workers rights and more annual leave. To be honest, I work for a trust that's in very bad shape and I'm just getting sick of the sense of hopelessness, being asked to do more with less and short-term political manoeuvres in upper management that just tick a box and do nothing to improve patient care.

I suppose I've been a bit vague in what I'm after. I'd quite like something perhaps in a school or university or GP surgery, so I'm not completely selling out and going fully private healthcare. I've got a fair bit of experience and additional qualifications so I wouldn't be looking at being a staff nurse, I'd want to be looking at having something more independent, I guess. Just with less of the bullshit.

But I'll fully admit, you might be right that I might be just be thinking the grass is greener.
>> No. 12117 Anonymous
6th March 2018
Tuesday 11:03 pm
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>>12106

https://jobs.thirdsector.co.uk/jobs/operations-and-service-delivery/
https://jobs.theguardian.com/jobs/support-services/
https://jobs.theguardian.com/jobs/mental-health-2/

You'll have to sift through a lot of shitty support worker jobs offering £7.80 an hour, but there are a few interesting vacancies mixed in there.

>>12107

>we generally aren't the most popular of folk

I don't know why. You do a fucking hard job for nowhere near enough money in a totally broken system. Fair play, I couldn't stick it.
>> No. 12119 Anonymous
7th March 2018
Wednesday 1:54 am
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I should listen to Goblin again.
>> No. 12120 Anonymous
7th March 2018
Wednesday 2:06 am
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>>12116
Try and get a job in a prison, my mate worked in one for a year after he graduated and he said it's interesting and because you're the gate keeper of the drugs they are very polite.

Or, now bear with me, you could move to Scotland. They have the best performing NHS in Britain and if you're experienced I foresee no issues in securing a job before you flit.
>> No. 12121 Anonymous
7th March 2018
Wednesday 6:56 pm
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>>12110
Actually, a big part of the price premium is to do with the funding model.

As a member of permanent staff, your post is funded from the trust's operational budget, which means it's subject to the stresses of below-inflation increases (i.e. real-terms cuts), and the resulting pressure on the trust to identify what they do best and find more ways of doing less of it better. If they need an extra nurse but there's no headroom in the operational budget, they can't create the post.

As agency staff are effectively either at-will or for a fixed term, the accountants can do a bit of voodoo and charge them to capital budgets. If they need an extra nurse but don't have the funding to create a post, they can spend money from other budgets on agency and contract staff.

The agencies know that they are providers of last resort, so can gouge to fuck. They also know that if they can poach staff away from payroll, that directly increases demand for their services. That means an agency can effectively take an NHS employee away from and hire them back to the same trust at a premium. In order to be able to attract staff, knowing they aren't offering the same benefits they have to offer significantly higher pay, otherwise nobody would join them.

tl;dr fatcats gonna fat.

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