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>> No. 14029 Anonymous
16th September 2021
Thursday 9:25 pm
14029 References
I am in the process for getting a new job. However, I'm scared that in my previous job I was dismissed due to poor attendance, and I don't want to put them as a reference as it wouldn't look good to the prospective employer that I was off for an extended period (all the time with doctor's notes, for a long term disability that my managers were aware of). Do I ask for a reference from a job further back, or does that look dodgy? Or do I say up front in the interview "I was off sick a lot because I was ill but now I'm not so don't worry"?
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>> No. 14030 Anonymous
16th September 2021
Thursday 10:33 pm
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In the current climate, employers in most fields are desperate for staff and can't afford to be picky. I think you're better off being straight rather than trying to hide anything - it won't come back to bite you in the arse, you probably don't want to work for someone who would discriminate on health grounds and there are loads of jobs going at the moment if it falls through.
>> No. 14031 Anonymous
16th September 2021
Thursday 10:46 pm
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>all the time with doctor's notes, for a long term disability that my managers were aware of

I would still tell a prospective new employer. What else are you going to tell them that you did all day the last few years or however long you were at your old job. You didn't just play hooky, you had valid reasons to be off work. Even if they let you go. Honesty is still a currency at job interviews, at least if you can offer a reasonable explanation.

Do make sure to emphasize that your health problems are behind you now, and that it was really just some improbably bad luck that you were gone from your work repeatedly. Maybe even get a note from your doctor confirming that you're all better now.
>> No. 14032 Anonymous
17th September 2021
Friday 12:35 am
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>>14031
> Do make sure to emphasize that your health problems are behind you now

I would lead with that when/if you bring it up. Something to the effect of "Though it is behind me now thanks to the fantastic treatmeant I received from XYZ, I was forced to take extended time off which I communicated to my managers at the time". Rephrase that, of course, but you get the gist. Depending on how competitive your field is you want to make sure that the person reading your CV (if it's a machine, then god help you) is forwarned of any red flags so they can contextualise them before they form an unfavourable opinion.

We (more or less) only hire people with a few years experience, and for those we only call on the references if they make extraordinary claims: "I worked in the maintenance crew for the Eiffel Tower and single-handedly dismantled and re-riveted the structure in under 6 hours while a team of painters did their thing to keep up".

But your mileage may vary by a country mile depending on your industry.
>> No. 14033 Anonymous
17th September 2021
Friday 12:58 am
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>>14032

>if it's a machine, then god help you

I generally don't apply for jobs where HR think they can't even be arsed to have a human working out if you're a promising candidate. I know that that increasingly rules out a lot of major companies these days, but I've found that I am most comfortable working for smaller companies anyway, where people are a tight-knit group and aren't at the whim of management many levels of hierarchy above them. Smaller companies haven't quite adopted that technology yet in large numbers.

I applied for a job at a big tech service provider before the pandemic, and I got an e-mail telling me to call a number for a phone interview. Which turned out to be fully computerised. What the actual fuck. I hung up about four or five minutes in, after a few somewhat inane questions their computer saw fit to ask me, because if they can't find the time to talk to you on the phone in person, i.e. if no actual fucking human at their company can manage to take ten minutes out of their day to have a personal chat with you, then they aren't worth my time either.


Self sage for thread derailment.
>> No. 14034 Anonymous
17th September 2021
Friday 12:41 pm
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>>14029
Don't you have a work mate? Give their details and let them act as your previous manager.

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