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>> No. 4856 Anonymous
24th November 2020
Tuesday 5:50 pm
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If something apparently isn't available on LibGen or SciHub, am I out of luck? Is there anywhere else I can ask?

Searching for a textbook which would otherwise cost 92GBP.
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>> No. 4857 Anonymous
24th November 2020
Tuesday 6:10 pm
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Tweet the title and ISBN with the hashtag #icanhazpdf. Include a throwaway e-mail address if you have one. If anyone has access to the file you're looking for, they should get back to you shortly. Delete the tweet afterwards to avoid cluttering the hashtag.
>> No. 4858 Anonymous
24th November 2020
Tuesday 6:46 pm
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>>4857

I made the mistake of helping out someone else using the hashtag and my account was instantly locked out. Now I'm going through the wankery of using a disposable phone number to reverify the account.

Thank you for the shout, though, I'll remember this in the future.
>> No. 4859 Anonymous
24th November 2020
Tuesday 7:51 pm
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try #bookz on undernet
>> No. 4860 Anonymous
24th November 2020
Tuesday 8:11 pm
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>>4859
b-ok.xyz
>> No. 4861 Anonymous
24th November 2020
Tuesday 8:28 pm
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>>4859

Using the @search function in the channel yielded no results.

>>4860

Unfortunately I think libgen already includes this site, or at least it's pulling the same results.

Typical that I'm after something apparently so niche.
>> No. 4862 Anonymous
26th November 2020
Thursday 9:18 am
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Have you tried bibliothek?
>> No. 4863 Anonymous
26th November 2020
Thursday 9:25 am
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The search engine bookfinder.com is often pretty good, though a lot of the sites it searches are those whose pricing system is absolutely fucking absurd, probably one of those incrementally increasing ones which don't do anything at all. I've seen the same books going for a penny or £999.
>> No. 4864 Anonymous
26th November 2020
Thursday 7:25 pm
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>>4862

Can you be a bit more specific?

>>4863

Good shout. Bookfinder ranged from about 70gbp upward. Another website biblio.co.uk found a copy for 45gbp, including shipping from the U.S..

That's half off the original price I was looking at, anyway.
>> No. 4865 Anonymous
26th November 2020
Thursday 10:45 pm
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>>4864
I have honestly bought books through bookfinder's witchery on one site its mechanism scans on more than one occasion and noticed prices jump to the £100+ or be 50p. Seriously, buying books is stupid.

Companies like betterworldbooks and medimops.de are worth looking at, their listings for the same book as sold on different platforms can, again, vary wildly in price. German amazon is worth a shout, as their books are subsidised.
>> No. 4866 Anonymous
28th November 2020
Saturday 2:37 pm
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>>4865
>their listings for the same book as sold on different platforms can, again, vary wildly in price

I have direct experience of building pricing algorithms for book selling platforms. Very very few booksellers keep stock anymore1 - when they show you an "in-stock" price, they are actually reflecting the best price that their wholesalers will give them at the time - all booksellers use multiple wholesalers (and many of them share those same suppliers, but will have different deals on margin). When you order the book, they order the book from their suppliers, and "cross-dock" the book the next day when it arrives at their warehouse, or in some cases, their supplier will send it direct to you, with that retailers packaging. An additional quirk of pricing is whether the retailer includes postage in the cost of the book, as many do now.2

Price-comparison / book-searching sites will scrape or download those prices from retailers, regularly during the day - the prices will be cached for a while, depending on the site. Those retail prices will then change during the day, as stock changes at their back-end suppliers. Because a retailer has multiple suppliers, selling to them at different prices, the price of a book on any retail site could change multiple times throughout the day.

1 - Amazon obviously have the largest retail warehouses, but they'll only stock perhaps the top 100,000 titles, by sales volume, out of a universe of perhaps 20 million books in print.

2 - Because of the inclusion of the postage costs, many book-sellers will geolocate their users, figure out which country you're coming from, and modify the price accordingly depending on the postage cost. This also confuses the price comparison sites.

>> No. 4867 Anonymous
28th November 2020
Saturday 4:25 pm
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>>4866
Interesting. There must've been some alignment of the stars when I bought a lot of ex-libris academic works on the Warsaw Pact about 5 years ago, as plenty of them are now routinely selling for £20 a go, rather than the pennies I spent. The algorithms back then did seem pretty strange though, often with upper-end prices on amazon marketplace, there would be two or more vendors somehow increasing their prices on a daily basis to dizzying heights, to the point you'd expect the books to be printed on Martian vellum, I take it not every vendor employs the same sort of algorithm then?
>> No. 4868 Anonymous
28th November 2020
Saturday 4:50 pm
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>>4867
>with upper-end prices on amazon marketplace, there would be two or more vendors somehow increasing their prices on a daily basis to dizzying heights

That's a slightly different thing I think - most tech savvy sellers on Marketplace revise their prices multiple times per day, to snipe at their competitors and drive prices down, ie to be the cheapest by a couple of pennies - when you see prices rising to stupid heights, it's nearly always an algorithm going wrong in some way. As an example, I once knew of/detected a competing seller scraping the prices of the company I worked for, so I made the system detect and show them slightly higher prices to break their algorithm - that kind of thing goes on a lot.
>> No. 4869 Anonymous
28th November 2020
Saturday 5:55 pm
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>>4868
Bot interactions are fun.
http://www.michaeleisen.org/blog/?p=358
>> No. 4870 Anonymous
28th November 2020
Saturday 6:14 pm
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>>4864
It's a torrent site just for books
>> No. 4871 Anonymous
29th November 2020
Sunday 4:09 pm
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>>4870

Got it with "bibliotik". Looks promising, thanks.
>> No. 4872 Anonymous
29th November 2020
Sunday 4:55 pm
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>>4871

Looks like it's invite only. Can you help anotherlad out?
>> No. 4873 Anonymous
30th November 2020
Monday 6:40 pm
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>>4872

My account was deleted due to inactivity. Try /r/trackers
>> No. 4874 Anonymous
2nd December 2020
Wednesday 9:43 pm
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It turns out it was on archive.org. I used a DRM removal tool to obtain a copy.

Thanks to you lads that helped with this.
>> No. 5260 Anonymous
1st August 2024
Thursday 7:30 am
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Bumping this thread because SciHub has been "paused" for years, now. I take this to mean that while the website is still up, they're not uploading/scraping many new papers from behind paywalls. Where you lads are getting your scientific papers from?

I've tried the "Science Mutual Aid Community" on wosonhj.com and had no success. I would be interested to see their hit ratio in terms of how many requests go answered/unanswered. Anna's Archive doesn't find most of my requests, as well.

Any updates about the legal case against SciHub would be interesting to know, as well.
>> No. 5261 Anonymous
1st August 2024
Thursday 12:09 pm
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>>5260

There aren't many great options at the moment. If you're a graduate, it's worth getting in touch with your old university library, because a lot of them offer full membership to alumni. Some university libraries offer limited membership to the general public, but you'll usually only have online services access on their computers.
>> No. 5262 Anonymous
1st August 2024
Thursday 1:09 pm
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Libgen.is and .ru seem to have stopped working. They won't load on my machine :(
>> No. 5263 Anonymous
1st August 2024
Thursday 1:12 pm
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>>5262

.rs, .is and .st are all working. If they don't work for you, try changing your DNS provider.

https://one.one.one.one/dns/
>> No. 5264 Anonymous
1st August 2024
Thursday 1:21 pm
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>>5263
Be aware that if you use Cloudflare DNS archive.today (etc.) will stop working because the guy who runs it is an idiot.
>> No. 5265 Anonymous
1st August 2024
Thursday 3:00 pm
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>>5263
>>5264
1.1.1.1 desn't appear to work, although I did get through to a blank .ru page.
Time ususally resolves this issue, during which I've collected a list of titles for download. Hopefully it'll 'come back online' again within a few weeks.
>> No. 5266 Anonymous
1st August 2024
Thursday 3:06 pm
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>>5265

Just use unblockit. They regularly update their TLD but have a list of useful sites which also get blocked, which you can then visit via their proxy. https://libgen.unblockit.meme/ See? Works.
>> No. 5267 Anonymous
1st August 2024
Thursday 3:12 pm
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>>5266
Oh wow, thanks a lot that looks like a very useful resource.
>> No. 5268 Anonymous
1st August 2024
Thursday 3:22 pm
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>>5265

.ru is permanently dead. If the current addresses aren't working, try:

https://annas-archive.org
>> No. 5269 Anonymous
1st August 2024
Thursday 3:35 pm
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I can't imagine this would work for actual textbooks, but if it's an individual paper I usually find I can get a copy by politely emailing one of the authors. In my experience academics are often tickled by the fact that their paper is so interesting that a random person will contact them years later for the privilege of reading it. It helps if you can chuck in a domain-specific question alongside your request.

Still, https://sci-hub.3800808.com/ usually delivers anyway.
>> No. 5270 Anonymous
4th July 2025
Friday 11:03 pm
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Sci Net is a new platform recommended on SciHub, but it requires an invite: https://sci-net.xyz/invite

Unless I've misread, it says to pay 10USD. Any users here? Is it worth it?

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