i wrote a book called Mindfulness and Setting Boundaries. You can find it here - www.mindfulboundariesebook.co.uk (it redirects to scribd) 100% free.
It's about revealing your spiritual nature and becoming the hero of your own life and how the two can complement one another. Instead of an operating system upgrade like you'd get on Windows or something, this is more like a machine code upgrade and going directly to the binary system.
>>7535 >order/creation/action
>square/circle/triangle
I got the order wrong, it should be as above per my limited understanding. I think it's a hermetic thing?
2nd - The word "heart" brings up a lot of baggage for me - love and baseless feeling are the words that spring to mind that I don't particuarly resonate with. From the basic research that I've done online, it says that the heart's magnetic field is 100x stronger than the brains. That means the heart is 100x more sensitive to what's going on around is in the present moment - in real time. This has been the learning curve for me - where I have a feeling in my intuition/heart that tells me to do/say this OR not do this/say this and I follow that instead of my head. This becomes much more refined over time and when it's done for a long enough period of time, I really ended up becoming a completely different character to where I was when I was younger because I expressed myself where appropriate and inhibited myself where approrpriate in all sorts of situations.
I don't think we already embody goiden ratios - our bodies might, but our minds and "electromagnetic sense" are all jumbled - hence all our confusion and negative emotions.
No worries re: being provocative. It's all good. Glad you're enjoying it!
Yes this eBook has come because of the significant transformation. I started meditating in 2012 which went fairly exponential for the next 5-6 years, and then the line drawing started in 2017 and has been fairly consistent until present. It's unstoppable and systematic now - i.e. I walk and talk every day, just like I draw line and express myself every day (where as I never did before this all started).
Dunno what you mean by the grass being blue lol. Hope my answer helped, let me know if you want any more info
>>7535 >a line looks like a penis and a circle looks like a woman's tits/hips. The circle has an area to receive something, like a target. The arrow (line) does the giving.
Really? The line looks like a fanny to me. Who's to say a circle doesn't look like a bellend, end-on?
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No. 7545Anonymous 21st March 2023 Tuesday 12:01 pm7545What in the name of fuck is going on in this thread?
Cock's are definitely ciricles. A tube is a long circle and fundementally cocks are tubes.
OK yeah the vagina can look like that. But I think the penis is a clearer, straighter "line" compared to the vaginal slit. OK let's go a little deeper than the vagina - the ovaries in a woman are circular, spherical.
2 lines at different angles make it angular eg broad shoulders square off at a different angle to make arms. I'm gonna stop replying to these now anyway because they're a bit nitpicky
>>7553 Two lines intersecting aren't a line though, are they? That's half way to atriangle. A circle is infinite lines intersecting. So that means the fundamental basis of your shape theory is wrong. Hardly nit-picking.
The reason you're nitpicking is because you don't want to face up to what I'm writing in the book. Your resistance is normal and natural, but I have to say it's just a phantom. You will benefit greatly if you experiment with what I say and "go along with it". Only by it's implementation will you begin to see what I mean.
It's really not a controversial statement to say mens bodys are more angular/broad/tall/liney/however you want to phrase it.
I pretty much read 'line' as synonymous with 'arrow', as in 'strait as an'. From there it's not that great a stretch to liken an arrow to a triangle.
Masculinity is typically action, force, violence, strength, etc. Including the more positively assosiated aspects not mentioned I guess the masculine symbol could be boiled down to mean 'force of will'.
That way the 'all seeing eye' in the triangle would be omnisient will, or 'God'.
But then you've got the triangle hierarchy, which is an order (square) and the system as I barely understand it begins to break down.
OP you might want to check out 4chans /x/ board for a more favorable (or atleast 'open minded') audience. Other than there and r/occult's discord. I don't really know of any other places - open to hearing of some if anyone has any links.
Yeah but that's design theory for children's cartoons rather than a spiritual code to live by. It's not even a universal in cartoons, if you compare a Cruella Deville type to some sort of bulging muscle guy like I dunno the demigod from Moana.
Anyway guys this sort of work take months if not years to sink in fully. You may come back to this book years later after your subconscious has had some time to digest it. Or you could use it tomorrow at work, whatever works for you.
>>7563 Are you sure it's not just the disjointed ramblings of a kind and ultimately well-meaning young man who, under the effects of meditation or psychedelic drugs, like so many before him, crawled up his own arse and thought he found something there worth sharing?
If you can quote to me where it's disjointed and one thing doesnt adequately follow on from the other, I'd be happy to hear it. Have said that, I'd also say that being "disjointed" is the feminine "irrationality" that has its place and function. Irrationality has that function of connecting two distant points of meaning. That's why men can often be so confused as to why she's getting so angry at me over nothing, when really, it was just you sitting around a bit too much and she's scared you're not leading her anywhere worthwhile that she's getting angry at you for - that's the true meaning, not that you put the plates on the wrong part of the dishwasher.
>kind and ultimately well-meaning
Cheers lad
>crawled up his own arse and thought he found something there worth sharing?
The difference between e.g. taking a psychdelic and what I'm talking about is that a psychedelic doesn't (usually) cause massive brain re-wiring upon comedown. I've been meditating for 11 years and drawing significant lines the last 5. I'm sharing what I know works for me - and guess what, because we're all human beings, there'll be some similarities about what I write about with you too, probably, if you'd give it a chance.
>a psychedelic doesn't (usually) cause massive brain re-wiring upon comedown
No, it does it during the high. LSD and mushrooms are both known to increase neuroplasticity, which makes it easy to come to "revelations" and change behaviours using them.
For me, I realised Mary Jane is a sly manipulative bitch and I should have kicked her to the curb a long time ago, but for some people it's that they. But some people go a bit Syd Barrett.
The same effects that make psychedelics dangerous are responsible for their potential benefits, in my view.
>>7565 I am not a stereotype of a 90s man behaving badly so I don't actually have the difficulties you're offering solutions for. But the similarities in life I can find between me, you, and the DNA we share with bananas does not make me want to read what a banana has to say. The first few bananas who showed me their psychosis revelations were interesting but after a while I discovered actually no it's largely irrelevant to me, what they have to say is almost entirely coloured by their own personal internal symbolic language, no more meaningful than "lines feel masculine to me".
Yes they cause elevations during the trip, but for myself and the vast majority of accounts from other people, they don't have long lasting effects beyond perhaps a few weeks or months after the trip.
Atleast you're not addicted to alcohol, but yes MJ is a bitch, I know that for sure too.
Well you're drawing a line with me and my work right now. You can drop masculine/feminine if that's helpful for you, and just have non-acceptance/acceptance. I go into all this in the book of course.
>>7567 >what they have to say is almost entirely coloured by their own personal internal symbolic language, no more meaningful than "lines feel masculine to me".
Not a single person replied to my post about the Bouba/Kiki effect here >>7536, but its entire point is that people agree on these things despite them ostensibly being gibberish. There is invented nonsense that people almost universally agree on, and isn't that fascinating? It's not about lines vs circles, admittedly, but abstract shapes can have intuitive characteristics and this is supported by an impressively common consensus. If lines feel masculine to 95% of people, that's statistically significant and there's probably something to it.
>they don't have long lasting effects beyond perhaps a few weeks or months after the trip
Of course not, but only in the same way that a diet doesn't have long lasting effects if you start eating five Mars bars a day the minute you're out of Weight Watchers.
Very few things in life have a real short cut, but there are plenty of things that can catalyse the process of realising you need to change your path and give you the motivation to start.
OP here, was gonna get back to you but forgot. The kiki/bouba thing isn't in the book but yes that wikipedia page is interesting. I'd say that the "k" in "kiki" is comprised of lines and has a sharp snapping sound to it. The b, o, u and a all have circles in them and have the the feminine "ooo" sound to it.
Hang on hang on, we're saying sounds are masculine or feminine now too? What's feminine about "ooo"? It's not feminine just because the letter O is round, that's just circular reasoning.
Exactly, like a poofter would say "ooo nice handbag you got there" or a lass would say it after a good experience in bed.
- Yes it's "circular" reasoning :P
What I'm saying is that the guys who gave us this character set we're using thousands of years later knew that the charcter "O" was a feminine shape and that the sound "ooo" sounds feminine.
>>7569 If lines feel masculine to people then lines feel masculine to people and as has already been established, it's probably because of human body shapes. Fine. But if you want to tell me there's any deeper spiritual meaning to it I'm still going to need you to give a more convincing explanation that goes beyond simple visual association. Synchronicity is a common trap to fall into. Meditation and the psychedelic experience have a habit of making things seem meaningful and important when they're not. Like making someone decide to write a self-help book when their qualification to speak about life is that they spent theirs trying to empty their head rather than living one, or assuming people who are dismissive of that are afraid of what they have to say, or that it's so deep and meaningful lesser mortals will take years to fully understand it.
There doesn't need to be a spiritual meaning to what I'm talking about at all. The word spiritual has been very convoluted to mean many grand things. I'm trying to simplify something down to its most basic level - the most basic level - lines and circles, on and off. Embodying the circle - being here now without any interpretation (and/or just being aware of any habitual interpretation). Drawing the line - I'm on this side and you're on that side, and I'm here to express that because I don't want to Embody the circle any more because this issue is annoying me.
Nothing spiritual about it - very mundane and practical. It'll just take some time to get used to because often we're convinced by culture to follow our train's of thought ad nauseum and not express ourselves when we feel we're being hard done by by others.
I'm not "afraid of what you have to say", I'm just arguing my point that implementation of what I'm talking about is necessary to see what I'm getting at. Of course there's going to be resistance at first - because that resistance is what get dug up at the roots with what I'm talking about. Yes it does take years- but so what? I'm not saying you're a lesser mortal, I'm sure theres many things about you which you're better at than me. Even if there wasn't, who cares?
Great, I look forward to ten years from now when I've finally absorbed your advice on how to leave a party. Really ground-breaking stuff nobody else has figured out.
>>7576 >Drawing the line - I'm on this side and you're on that side
You'd usually hear from experienced meditators that there is no 'you and me', on and off, etc, but that those seemingly two different states are merely parts of the same thing - that is existance.
Reading about your line drawing seems like reasonable advice for cutting out toxicity from your life, but it also sounds similar to the efforts of seperating a person from their family and friends that are present in many cult methodologies.
>being "disjointed" is the feminine
Will you elaborate further on feminine qualities, both a list and explainations of?
There's no you and me in the silence, but as soon as words come out of our mouths, there's seperation.
I say in the book that line drawing should always be quickly followed up with the circle to create the spiral dynamic - i.e. you should usually include them afterwards (unless they're too "tamasic"). That would include rejoining a group after you've left, giving them a chance of expression when they want to, finding rapport etc etc. By no means does it say in there to "leave family and friends".
>elaborate further on feminine qualities, both a list and explanations of
Well it's a little bit of a loaded question - because you're asking from the masculine mind - a list/and explanation - category/order, when the feminine in no way fits those categories. But if I were to attempt to - I'd say that it is connected with hundreds, thousands, millions of points of meaning at the same time, compared to the mans a ---> b ---> c. So minds, moods and perceptions shift all the time in someone who is very feminine. In a way it's "impossible" to express the pure feminine, it has to be lived, experienced- because it's not only the feminine of women that can be experienced - but of nature, mystery, the univerise, your trials, life, if you just look for it. You can also have "uplifted feminine" who's mind shifts from pure thought to pure thought or the "fallen feminine" who's mind shifts from ugly thought to ugly thought. In men too there is a feminine aspect - I'd theorize to say that it's on a spectrum that the male human makeup can range from ~80% masculine/20% feminine to 50% masculine/50% feminine - if the precondioned mind is out the way and people were living the lives nature intended for them. These days though many men are like 80% feminine. 20% masculine. And vice versa for women.
I also realize that "but of nature, mystery, univerise, your trials, life" is a bit vague. So let me add one thing to that - the feminine is magnetic. Ever been around a large group of women and you can literally feel the pull towards them (beyond just your own lust), electromagnetically speaking? That's what I mean by applications in your own life too - you can feel the pull towards things
And have you ever had it where a woman is really into you and there's insane attraction, and the next moment it's just vanished and you were like wtf? The magnetism changes all the time too.
The trick is to keep up with the changing magnetism - i.e. spend your masculine charge in a different place - your work, another girl, another conversation, your hobby. Then you go to speak to her again and notice the magnetism's back.
So whenever you're too close to the feminine, move away. If you're too far away, move closer. Always be aiming for that spiral dynamic of closeness and distance - you got to feel you way around it though, don't logic your way through it
So whenever you're too close to the feminine, move away. If you're too far away, move closer. Always be aiming for that spiral dynamic of closeness and distance - you got to feel you way around it though, don't logic your way through it
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/03/210325115316.htm >"Men and women's brains do differ slightly, but the key finding is that these distinctions are due to brain size, not sex or gender," Dr. Eliot said. "Sex differences in the brain are tiny and inconsistent, once individuals' head size is accounted for."
It's been half a year now so it'd be interesting to hear if anyone who dipped into reading this would be able to feed back their experiences in nondual understanding and/or line drawing. Cheers.
>>7652 Honestly, I forgot about it shortly after reading - never really went into it sincerely, not looking for a new world view or great work to undertake.
Sorry.
It's interesting you should post this now, with a few internal things going on in my life. Do you decide to attach meaning or not? My life is void of meaning for the most part - obviously not to the point that I'm killing myself, but I'm definitely struggling against my willingness tyo stagnate.
I spent some hours watching her videos again last night. Today I took myself out for a short walk and sat on a few park benches. Even done some excersise and neglected to eat the takeaway I bought. So I'm doing something to better myself, if hesitant to actually recognise it as such, but I'm still wallowing in self pity.
I want to create something, man, but I feel as though any creation is self service. Times past I have truely appreciated works that I've done, regardless of their objective quality, but I feel that to do so is narsistic. Gods creation, nature, is already perfect, how can anything man creates be but a shadow of that - an idol?
'Ad maiorem Dei gloriam', but I know in making something I will apriciate it for myself, of myself.
I seem to be operating under the half hearted belief that Self esteem isn't worth it.
Then I listen to music and hear that human creation can be beautiful. How do you detatch yourself from that?
>Do you decide to attach meaning or not?
Always. Meaning it the "point" in the centre of the circle. What's the point of it all?! The point is the point!
Who said exercise was bettering yourself? It's entertainment, a nice lil endorphin high.
Self-esteem is bullshit because the foundation of that there's a "self" isn't correct.
Music's cool, innit fam.
Creation isn't self service - you are creating new life, even if it isnt biological. Whatever you're referring to about your creation - create more of it, and don't be ashamed of it.
