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>> No. 3533 Anonymous
6th April 2020
Monday 3:29 pm
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Lads, I'm without a job. Being a developerlad, I'm not too worried about finding another one, but I might have to move, and I don't know where I should go.

I'm thinking of London or Manchester. There's more to do in London, and I think there'd be more to do in London, but I'd be a bit better off money wise in Manchester. I don't know how easy it is to meet new people in either of them.

Have any of you lived in both? Could you tell me what it's like to live in them?

Are there any good cities I'm overlooking?
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>> No. 3534 Anonymous
6th April 2020
Monday 3:37 pm
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Depends what you're after, really.
>> No. 3535 Anonymous
6th April 2020
Monday 3:57 pm
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>Are there any good cities I'm overlooking?

It's not a city, but Milton Keynes is comfortable, affordable and has a massive tech industry. People take the piss, but it's genuinely a very nice place to live and work.
>> No. 3536 Anonymous
6th April 2020
Monday 5:34 pm
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>>3533
I've lived in both, but bear in mind I was a studentlad in London and I've been both a studentlad and workinglad in Manchester (where I live now).

I massively prefer Manchester - it's got most of the benefits of London in terms of things to do, but the pints are cheaper, and you don't have to worry about £60 taxi fare if you end up on the other side of the city on a night out.

People do seem generally friendlier in Manchester, but I'm not sure about meeting people - I suppose it depends what you're after. London seems to have more in the way of after-work classes/meetup situations, but then again Manchester has a great music scene and you're bound to meet people at gigs if that's your thing.

The weather is a bit shitter in Manchester, and green spaces in the city are lacking, but if you drive (which you'll be able to afford to in Manchester - depending on where you live - the insurance can be silly), the Peak District is 30 minutes drive away, and you're less than two hours from the Lake District.

London has a bit more variety in terms of pubs and venues (again, being a studentlad I mainly went to Camden but I'm aware there's a lot more than that), but that's not to say that Manchester doesn't have enough; there's the Northern Quarter for the weird hipster bars (though there's a few old man gems hidden there). Besides, pick the right pub in Manchester a pint will be well under £3.

The metrolink is a fucking joke compared to the tube, but most distances in Manchester can be walked (about 30 minutes to get from the Salford end of Deansgate to the other end of Northern Quarter), the buses are fine, and Ubers are reasonably priced and all over the place.
>> No. 3537 Anonymous
6th April 2020
Monday 5:35 pm
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>>3536
Alternatively, try Liverpool. I only lived there for a while; It's a bit smaller than Manchester, but it's easy to get around, has a great night out culture, and is cheap.
>> No. 3538 Anonymous
6th April 2020
Monday 6:02 pm
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>>3537
Seconded. The city centre is quite compact and very walkable, and the people are fantastic. There aren't many cities where you get the small town thing of people looking up at you, smiling and saying hello. Plus if you need to commute, Merseyrail bringing you right into the city centre is a bonus.
>> No. 3539 Anonymous
6th April 2020
Monday 6:15 pm
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>>3538
>Miseryfail

Whatever you do, do NOT put your feet up on the seats. They will find you, and they will fine you.
>> No. 3540 Anonymous
6th April 2020
Monday 6:53 pm
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>>3539
I'm not a chav, thanks.
>> No. 3541 Anonymous
6th April 2020
Monday 8:11 pm
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I live in London and can safely say that everyone who lives here is a wanker. That said, if you have an eye for doing an interesting job or climbing the career ladder then it's London or maybe Edinburgh.

>>3537
>>3538
Thirding this. Liverpool is a great shout and doesn't have the yob problem of Manchester, just be aware that Scousers are the soppiest people alive.

>>3535
>Milton Keynes

Why would you do this to him? Even Northampton is a better night out.
>> No. 3542 Anonymous
6th April 2020
Monday 8:26 pm
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>>3537
>>3538
>>3541

But isn't Liverpool full of scousers? That sounds unbearable to look at or listen to or be with.
>> No. 3543 Anonymous
6th April 2020
Monday 9:05 pm
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>>3542
They do insist on talking to each other on the bus, it's true. If you're used to the gaze-avoidance and inviolable Do Not Disturb of the tube then it can take a bit of getting used to.
>> No. 3544 Anonymous
6th April 2020
Monday 9:22 pm
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>>3542

They're an acquired taste. Scousers are aggressively friendly, which only sounds like an oxymoron if you've never spent time in Liverpool.

>>3541

>night out

There won't be any of those for a good long while.
>> No. 3545 Anonymous
6th April 2020
Monday 10:17 pm
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>>3542
Have a day out in Chester. It'll give you a mild taste of scousers without actually having to go to Liverpool.
>> No. 3546 Anonymous
8th April 2020
Wednesday 10:53 am
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Moved home (north) due to Covid after living in London for the past year, and I have to say, I don't miss London. Normal pattern is work, then go out. It takes me between 40 minutes and an hour 15 to get somewhere, same time to get home. Normally get back at 11ish, then bed. I'm on 55k and not really saving. I pay a grand for a room in a shared flat in Zone 2. A live-able one bedroom flat in Zone 1 or 2 starts at £1400 a month. Dating is _okay_. I think the guys are a cut above the girls, so the dating market can seem tough, but there's an abundance of girls. One thing I noticed is that if you use Tinder/Bumble in a smaller city, you see the same faces again and again. Not so in London. There's plenty of churn.
>> No. 3547 Anonymous
8th April 2020
Wednesday 11:26 am
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The people I know in real life who feel that they hate scousers are horrific arseholes so Liverpool has the benefit of being a magical force field that keeps them away.
>> No. 3548 Anonymous
8th April 2020
Wednesday 11:35 am
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>>3546
Higher London salaries generally are offset by the higher cost of living so the majority of people arent actually better off in real terms; it's only worthwhile from a financial perspective if you're in a specialist field or a top position.

>>3547
I don't hate scousers but they by far have the worst accent in the country.
>> No. 3549 Anonymous
8th April 2020
Wednesday 7:19 pm
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>>3546
>A live-able one bedroom flat in Zone 1 or 2 starts at £1400 a month

You should be able to find a studio on City Living London for cheaper and that's talking zone 1 - the catch is that space is at a premium so you'll be staying at your girlfriend's all the time. London is like that, you see absolute shitholes being advertised all the time for ridiculous money but there's hidden gems around.

>Dating is _okay_. I think the guys are a cut above the girls, so the dating market can seem tough, but there's an abundance of girls.

Not to start a cunt-off but I've found it pretty easy. Tons of career women around, significantly more women than men if memory serves, and lots of foreigners who have moved here looking for English cock. I'd probably fuck a career off and move if I couldn't get my end away.
>> No. 3550 Anonymous
24th May 2020
Sunday 10:43 pm
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>>3549

Not Op, but in a similar problem.

I'm from a shit northern town, looking to escape the shit northern life, so I've got myself a job in zone 1 and shouldn't be hurting for money.

Only issue is that I'm moving down in september with the bird, and finding property available then is a nightmare. Is there something about the london market that makes lettings so immediate? Can any of you lads help?
>> No. 3551 Anonymous
25th May 2020
Monday 7:37 am
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Anon just to add some balance.

I'm from Manchester and moved to London for work (though ironically back in Manchester for a while because of Corona) and living in London changed my feelings about the UK. Sure, you can probably find close to, or most things, that you want in Manchester but London is a completely different ball game. It's expensive to live there because the good jobs are there in abundance and it's a place worth living in. I'm never bored on the weekends, there's always something going on or something to do. In normal times you're a tube ride away from the airport to go on a weekend break somewhere or further afield, the networking is great and there's always weird quirky shit you can do, go to Viktor Wynd's Museum then stroll round Hyde Park on the way home - what a nice Sunday.

There are of course downsides, mainly the standard of living and the cost of it, but to me it makes it worth it, but I'm not over 30 and looking to settle down so that might change things significantly.

Compared to living in Manchester as well it blew my mind how little rain London gets. It might be grey, but that constant unending drizzle doesn't seem to exist in the same way as it does in Manchester and makes me significantly less depressed. London has it's rough areas, but it has also been gentrified (and don't shoot me Corbyn-lads, but I don't think improving areas is a bad thing, we can't stay stagnant for fear of some people being left behind because they like their shitholes shit.) so there are a lot of nice places everywhere. In Manchester you kind of have the city centre bit then outside of it is really just scarred post-industrial towns and villages like Oldham, Rochdale, Stockport, Bury. None of them are bad places, but none of them will make you look back on your deathbed and feel like you've been living. Again, London has their grim areas, but they still feel significantly less shite than up north.

Finally if you're looking for a partner, London seems to have great choice, there are lots of ambitious, young, driven people from all over the world all crammed into one crazy city with money to spend. What's not to like about that?

My vote goes to London. I could never contemplate living somewhere like Manchester permanently again.

>>3550
I don't know how Corona has impacted it but London lettings move fast, you have to just go with your gut I've found. There's too many people, too much competition and you don't have the days to ponder it like you do elsewhere. It's a bit of a risk but if you sign six months you can always look to be moving out.
>> No. 3552 Anonymous
25th May 2020
Monday 7:40 am
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>>3551
>go to Viktor Wynd's Museum
I fingered a girl's bum in there. The bar staff gave us funny looks when we left as there's obviously CCTV. She bought me a turkish dinner after.
>> No. 3553 Anonymous
25th May 2020
Monday 7:41 am
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>>3552
A truly great place.
>> No. 3554 Anonymous
25th May 2020
Monday 8:03 am
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I am in general happier and more financially secure living up north, but every time I go to London I wish I lived there again. It really is just a lot more interesting. But up here I have a reasonably large house with a private road leading to it and some gardens and land - I could not hope to afford much more than a shoebox in streatham for the same sort of money, and as my main hobby is car fiddling which requires space, I have made my choice to settle up here.

If my career goes the way I intend, I will probably end up back down there in some suburb.

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