How much money do I need to live comfortably in London?
I'm seeing wildly conflicting figures online, from £30k to it not being worth it on less than £100k
I'm worried that corona is skewing things currently. How hard is it to find a flat share with reasonable people? What's the pre-corona price range for a flat or a nice share?
For somewhere within reasonable commuting distance of central London, you'll pay a minimum of £500/mo for a habitable room in a flatshare, £800/mo for a manky bedsit or £1000/mo for a cramped but liveable one-bed flat. Double that if you want to live in a halfway nice area.
"Live comfortably" is far too subjective to be meaningful without knowing what sort of lifestyle you're used to.
I lived in London with the Missus up to 2014. I was on 50k and she was on around ~25k give or take. You can live in a decent part of London, drink yourself half to death and eat out in restaurants 2-4 times a week on that kind of money.
Rather than thinking about boroughs think about tube stations (which is the easiest way to map out and navigate London). Find a tube station with a bunch of yummy mummies, a decent high street, and relatively few ethnics roaming about and start scouting about for a flat there.
Completely depends on where you live, what sort of things you like to do and what your commute will be like.
You can live ok (i.e. flat share, bus rather than tube, eat out and pints a few times a week but errr on the side of a takeaway at your mate's flat and a few drinks there) on about 30k.
Realistically you need to be hitting about 50-60k to enjoy any real quality of life and not be watching corners.
If you can get yourself a partner on a similar salary then you can start to enjoy it more, 800 gets me a shitty room with some man children that can't wash up, but moving in with my girlfriend to a quaint nice flat will bring the price down, give me more space and give me as much space as I need.
I love London, it's been the best experience, but I don't think I can hack more than another year of it. You grow to love to hate it. Never bored though.
I'm actually flat hunting right now for a new one and as the retiring letting agent said to me 'London only really cares about you if you're really rich or really poor, otherwise it's shit.' He's probably not wrong.
>>3560 Stop reading the Daily Mail. London has more people in it than Ireland. Would you be worried about moving to Ireland?
You need a council of housing association flat which are either fully occupied by old cunts that've been there since the 70s, taken up by single mothers, or in tower blocks in the worst possible parts of the city.
As the otherlads have said, it depends on where and what you want to do. I live in central on just over £39k and do fine with a cramped little place to myself. Last year I earned 31k and still managed it.
Thing is, other than your career and dating options the place is a shithole. It's not just that everything is expensive, filthy and cramped -
the people are the height of Southern poofery. Don't even get me started on all the fucking Australians.
As we discussed in the other thread, move to Edinburgh if you can.
>What's the pre-corona price range for a flat or a nice share?
Exactly what it is now the last time I looked. As soon as the estate agents opened back up any price fall bounced back. It's good to know that at least the nation's hardworking landlords are back on their feet.
>>3567 I'd like an answer to this too. Obviously nobody thinks London is a warzone, but:
Do you feel safe walking alone at night?
Do you adjust your routes to avoid loitering yoof?
Have you been mugged?
What percentage of your friends have been mugged?
Only vaguely apropos, but I've always wanted to see a version of The Inbetweeners set in an inner-London school. The series would predictably end early when the boys get stabbed to death by a gang of Somalis at the end of the episode where Simon gets wanked off at an underage disco.
>>3568 I don't get the hatred towards south London. Areas like Peckham are now getting hipsterish real quick. As there are still poorer spots you can get fair rent there and still be relatively near the centre.