>>32174
For years it's been illegal in many council areas to make "any noise which is so loud or so continuous or repeated as to give reasonable cause for annoyance to other persons".

>>32175
You can have illegal protests but this bill means the jail sentence for holding a peaceful protest, if the police decide it poses a risk of causing "serious annoyance" (the definition of which is up to Priti Patel's discretion and can be changed any time she likes) is now up to ten years. Which is significantly more than you're likely to get for raping a woman or assaulting police officer.

Is there any way this law can be applied retroactively?

It'll inevitably be watered down once it comes back from the Lords. Chill out m8

>>32178
"Don't worry, the heredity, unelected lords of the country will fix it for you, I promise." Do you hear yourself?

>>32178

If we get to execute the xylophone twat then I'm all for it.

>>32179
Yes, they literally exist to have a cunt-off with the Commons over technicalities and natural law without any filthy democracy being involved.

>>32181
Your placidity is genuinely disgusting.

>>32182
You'll get it when you're older lad.

>>32177
But isn't there a risk of creating a "I might as well be hanged for a sheep as a lamb" situation where people who're determined to protest but would be happy to do so peacefully figure that if they're going to get 10 years for making some noise regardless, they might as well choose the noise of not-so-peaceful smashing glass over the noise of peaceful but poorly rhyming chants.

>>32184
I don't know, maybe that has something to do with the protesters with banners saying various versions of "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable".

>>32185
You think the protesters who're summarising the results of the new laws are to fault for the results of the new laws? Are you retarded?

Never mind don't bother answering that.

WHAT DO WE WANT?

>>32184
Seems like being arrested and jailed for an entirely peaceful demonstration the sort of thing people would wear as a badge of honour in certain communities to illustrate their point that the UK restricts freedom of expression.

I don't particularly agree with it as it's very heavy-handed and like >>32191 says, the protesters it's trying to dissuade (eg. those marching under whatever hashtag is trending on Twitter that day) will simply do sillier and sillier things for social media brownie points.

I think the only real solution is to C4 the Twitter servers and outlaw the philosophical and conceptual underpinnings of the platform.

I do not particularly wish to live in a nation that chooses permanent oppression over fleeting irritation. There is a gutlessness about this country that makes me utterly sick, if I knew how I would do everything possible to change it.

>>32192
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>32193
The government are taking proactive steps against whatever outrage hashtag is trending on Twitter obviously, that's what this bill is all about.
Where it's heavy-handed is that they've failed to realise (or do realise slimily enough) that once we're out of lockdown and everyone's too knackered from work or has other things occupying their lives, the amount of protesting will drop dramatically.
Very sneaky of the Tories to glide this in just as we seem to be coming out of the pandemic.

>>32195
>Very sneaky of the Tories to glide this in just as we seem to be coming out of the pandemic.

Cuts to anti-corruption efforts incoming as well, conveniently as a tory MP is under investigation for corruption. This government doesn't care what the people want, so these laws should be of great concern especially when they're so open to abuse.

>>32192
>I think the only real solution is to C4 the Twitter servers and outlaw the philosophical and conceptual underpinnings of the platform.

Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. Have you ever considered a career in politics?

>>32193
You had your chance but instead you decided to defend restrictions on guns and wrong speech. Now the security services know everything about you, your every move is tracked, you can be unpersoned in a moment and soon you won't even be able to call Soubry a Nazi on a BBC broadcast.

>>32195
The original wave of Extinction Rebellion protests were very well planned and centrally organised, before the coppers infiltrated it and they took to waving bin bags around while listening to ambient music. Also stop fucking bringing up Twitter. If you hate it so much why is it all you ever talk about? I don't want to read that shiting website's name ever again.

The government is fundmentally altering people's right to assembly and the opposition only voted against it out of political opportunism, rather than spending weeks and weeks decrying this as an attack on freedom, as they should. If you're stood on your tod with a placard outside your local council building, you can be nicked, but were it not for a woman being murdered a week ago, instigating a vigil during a time of lockdown, this probably would have passed without so much as a whisper. No one's arsed, no one in this pathetic little nation gives a hoot. The government will rolling back the franchise soon enough, but once again, nothing will be done.

>>32198
Not even halfway sensible, leave your keyboard at the door next time.

>>32201
>I don't want to read that shiting website's name ever again.

A few kgs of potassium chlorate and some imaginative legislation lad and you won't have to.
In all seriousness though, don't forget coppers are ultimately the ones who can decide whether to enforce it or not. Speccy Derek standing outside the council building from 1600 to 1900 shouting about the restoration of sliding gate locks over hook locks on the public footpath turnstile and the coppers (if they have any sense) probably won't bat an eye.
Situation gets more complicated as it elevates. Ultimately, it places more hands into the MET Police Commissioner as she now gets to decide what does or does not constitute a "reasonable protest". I think we'll have to look very closely at how we decide as a country what is a legitimate concern and what is the latest trend on [REDACTED].

>>32203

>and the coppers (if they have any sense) probably won't bat an eye.

Relying on a police officers common sense is absolutely not how I want any law to work. Even if I had faith in the intelligence of those who go into law enforcement, subjectivity is a horrendous thing to weave into legislation.

A good current example is how a copper can decide that your car's exhaust is too loud, without the need to measure the noise at all. So if officer dave has sensitive ears you're fucked, with no recourse. And also no way to actually know whether your car is breaking the law or not as it really depends on which copper walks past, doesn't it.

Maybe that's a bad example because loud exhausts are for cunts, but still surely if we did legislation properly the rule would be a measurable sound pressure level.

This isn't so bad. It will militarise and make protests more violent in the coming years. No more of peaceful protest. How is a protest peaceful to begin with?

>>32224

This is might be a naïve take, to be honest with you. I recall one lad here making a post that's always stayed with me, someone that had participated in the Iraq war protests. They mentioned that at a certain point the decision was made to go, and the Met turned up at the makeshift camps in London with submachine guns -- about as clear a signal as you can ever ask for saying, "fun's over, it's time to go home, no more fucking about".

What I'm saying is, any policy which allows for greater use of force will almost invariably end up favouring the state.

>>32198

I was a child when they restricted firearms and Labour started to put us on this road to misery. Don't blame me. I've only ever voted for parties who were against this shit and I've tried to raise awareness.

>>32224
It's not 1830, mate, you're not storming parliment any time soon. And there are plenty of peaceful protest all the time, indeed either you're ignorant on the matter or this is a very good example of how Conservative framing is already negatively effecting how people view political speech in this country.

>>32237
What are you talking about? Can't you read or are you profoundly mentally ill?

>>32238

Fuck off bootlicker.

I'm probably not worldly enough to make this statement, but it feels like this country has a population that is especially placid, uncaring. People are taken advantage of without knowledge or even care.

>>32242
We have Murdoch to thank for that.

Thanks to the OPlad and the other poster in the sexual harassment thread for pointing out this was going on. I've been a bit disconnected from current events in the UK recently. I've now signed both the Netpol and Liberty petitions.

If I remember correctly, my local MP already has a pretty decent record on this sort of thing.

I can't find this reported on anywhere other than the guardian so apologies for that
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/16/blm-activists-demonstrating-against-anti-protest-bill-targeted-by-police
It seems the police started harassing people who previously were involved in the BLM protests to scare them out of attending the various protests in the past few days. And just black women in general.

>>32238
Oh please. When was the last time a protest actually worked in recent memory? Did the million who protested the Iraq war actually stop it? Funny it coincided with all this peaceful protests bullshit, where middle class twats can have a little walk and go home when the sun starts setting.

This bill is good. It will take us back to the mid 1900s. Once we start getting treated like the protestors in Burma, then the mask will slip and all will see how things really are.

>>32247
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/cost-of-stopping-hs2-climate-change-protests-hits-50m-k8f8mp3r9

>>32247
and https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/05/fracking-uk-protest-gas and https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coal-mine-plans-near-whitehaven-halted-b88wdnwl0

>>32249
We've got a whole thread about how those lot are mentalists living the shed bunker dream. They're not violent, but they're not obeying the law either.

>>32244
>If I remember correctly, my local MP already has a pretty decent record on this sort of thing.
Here's a list of everyone who voted for it.
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/full-list-of-mps-who-voted-through-policing-bill-that-would-make-a-dictator-blush-258383

>>32251
That's great but they a) succeeded with their protests and b) aren't "middle class twats [having] a little walk and [going] home when the sun starts setting", which is what was in question. You're moving the goalposts in a way that makes it very clear you don't have an actual stance other than spewing generalised defeatism. Go fuck yourself.

>>32249
>>32250
I guess you can't read. What part of these protests were peaceful?

>>32255
The bits you didn't make up.
No, you're right. If peaceful protest could change anything, they'd make it illegal.

>>32252

Very good. Sure enough, she's not on there, but I imagine at least a few of the lads here live in constituencies represented by these MPs, and should get to writing some e-mails.

>>32262
Aye, found out today mine voted for it but he is an absolute bellend with a shite track record so no surprise there, he's even been blocking his constituents on twatter.

>>32269
Try harassing him to get the important bits taken out as an amendment? Email might be the way to go.

>>32270
Sounds like something the police could do him for under this new law.

>>32271
Better do it before it's passed then.

Ladm8s, I find OP seriously annoying. Hopefully he'll get taken down to the copshop and get taken care of.

>>32270
Phone their office. It's the one thing they can't ignore and can't issue mealy-mouthed form-letter replies to.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/police-bill-academics-letter-priti-patel-b1818695.html article outlining that 700 legal academics have signed a letter speaking out against this. What's really remarkable about this isn't the number because other petitions get many more, but how quickly they've signed it. That's some real shock motivation there.

>It’s been confirmed that the oppressive and authoritarian #PoliceCrackdownBill has been delayed until ‘later in the year’ by
>@peterkyle
> MP.

>It’s an incredible victory for
>@SistersUncut
> and everyone who turned up to the protests, made noise about it and contacted MPs

at least that's what this tweet https://twitter.com/g__ferris/status/1372653028210278401 says
what it actually entails, I'm less certain.

>>32313
>what it actually entails, I'm less certain.

Kick it down the road and hope things die down and people stop making a fuss/get distracted once things open up then pass it anyway. I would assume.

>>32252
>Here's a list of everyone who is a Conservative MP
Votes like this are always done along party lines.