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>> No. 40231 Anonymous
21st May 2023
Sunday 3:09 am
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>Japan and Britain have upgraded bilateral ties to an “enhanced” global strategic partnership after agreeing on a “landmark” deal Thursday to step up defense, trade and technology cooperation. Signed a day before the official start of a critical Group of Seven summit in Hiroshima, the so-called Hiroshima Accord will see the two sides launching new partnerships in the areas of industrial science, innovation and technology and semiconductors, including expanded cooperation in research and development and skills exchanges.

>London and Tokyo are aiming to strengthen their domestic chip production and bolster supply-chain resilience, particularly amid concerns that semiconductor supplies could be affected by a conflict over Taiwan, which currently makes over 60% of the world’s semiconductors and over 90% of the most advanced ones. “As global leaders in science, technology, and innovation, we will work together to maintain strategic advantage, including in emerging technologies such as AI and quantum,” Prime Minister Fumio Kishida and his British counterpart, Rishi Sunak, said in the accord, noting the importance of semiconductors to critical sectors and world-changing digital technologies. Sunak is also said to be preparing a £1 billion ($1.25 billion) investment for Britain’s semiconductor industry.

>In terms of defense, the pact will see London double the number of British troops in upcoming joint exercises and confirm the return of its carrier strike group to the Indo-Pacific in 2025, following a maiden voyage to the region in 2021. This comes as the two countries prepare to launch in Japan the fourth iteration of their joint Vigilant Isles military exercise series later this year. Those drills will be the biggest yet, involving around 170 British personnel. Kishida and Sunak also expanded cybersecurity cooperation, with Fujitsu joining the U.K.’s National Cyber Security Center’s Industry 100, and the two countries piloting a new Japan Cyber Security Fellowship to develop future leaders in the sector, according to a British statement released ahead of the official signing of the deal.

>Britain and Japan, which are already working together with Italy to develop a next-generation fighter aircraft under the Global Combat Air Program, also agreed to consult each other on important regional and global security issues and consider response measures. “We commit to closer consultation on security issues, to carry out an ambitious program of larger and more complex joint exercises and planning, and resolve to bring our defense and security industries closer together,” the two countries noted in the accord.

>London said the increased defense cooperation with Japan is designed to “uphold stability in the Indo-Pacific,” arguing that the security and prosperity of the region is “inseparable” from that of the Euro-Atlantic. Progress was also made on the security front, with the two sides committing to deepening their economic relationship to increase trade and investment, including through the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP) free-trade agreement and a closer partnership to strengthen economic security.

>Under the Hiroshima Accord, the two partners will also launch a set of science and technology programs, including a new strategic relationship between Imperial College London and the University of Tokyo to develop a Cleantech Innovation Hub and scale up the rapid development of green technologies. Other agreements included a new renewable energy partnership, aimed at accelerating the deployment of clean energy in Britain, Japan and third countries, and stronger cooperation on tackling global issues such as climate change.

>He also pointed out that Britain’s relationship with Japan “has grown further and faster than with any other international partner,” reflecting Japan’s pivotal role in the Indo-Pacific and their “centrality to the U.K.’s security and prosperity.” Britain and Japan have been eager to deepen their partnership amid shared concerns over the risks and challenges posed by China both in the military and economic domains. At the same time, London has been keen to increase economic growth and foreign investment in Britain as part of its post-Brexit agenda and its “Indo-Pacific tilt” — an ambitious plan for the U.K. to become “the European partner with the broadest and most integrated presence” in Asia.

>Over the past six months, the U.K. has not only launched the Global Combat Air Program but also completed negotiations to join the CPTPP trade block and signed a visiting forces agreement with Tokyo that allows both countries to deploy military troops on each other’s soil. Britain and Japan also emphasized their determination to “strengthen the free and open international rules-based order,” with Sunak saying he aims to “galvanize” international action on economic coercion by “hostile states” and shore up support for Kyiv, as G7 members prepare for escalating military action to counter Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2023/05/18/national/politics-diplomacy/japan-uk-defense-technology-agreement/

I feel like this stuff isn't being covered at all in the press but, fuck me, should we all start learning Japanese? They seem really keen on us lately and we don't go a month without some new agreement being made. Do you reckon Starmer will continue the trend?
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>> No. 40232 Anonymous
21st May 2023
Sunday 3:31 am
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That's nice.

The EU just announced €43 billion in subsidies for chip manufacturing.
>> No. 40233 Anonymous
21st May 2023
Sunday 3:47 am
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It's mostly bollocks. £1bn for the semiconductor industry sounds like a lot of money, but a modern semiconductor fabrication plant costs at least $10bn. Promising to invest 10% of the money required to build one chip factory doesn't really move the needle. China are currently investing $28bn per year in semiconductors. A "biggest ever" joint military drill with 170 of our personnel isn't exactly going to have Xi Jinping shitting himself. The rest of it is just "partnerships" that don't actually commit anyone to anything.

Japan have had an even worse stagnation than ours, with their economy being no larger than it was in 1993. We're in exactly the same rut and have essentially the same core problems. They're a useful co-conspirator, inasmuch as we're both pretending to be a global power while actually being a dying economy with no ideas for how to turn things around.
>> No. 40234 Anonymous
21st May 2023
Sunday 10:12 am
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Japan and Britain have an awful lot in common when you think about it.

If there was a full trade deal, do you reckon we'd be able to see Japanese lasses' fannies unpixellated?
>> No. 40235 Anonymous
21st May 2023
Sunday 10:27 am
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>>40234
More likely our lasses fannies will get the pixel treatment.
>> No. 40236 Anonymous
21st May 2023
Sunday 12:03 pm
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>>40234
I have thought in the past that we are very similar to Japan. We're both island powers with a very rich culture of our own and an occasionally tiresome arrogance that most countries don't seem to share.

And Japanese fannies really look like that; they aren't pixellated.
>> No. 40237 Anonymous
21st May 2023
Sunday 12:46 pm
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>>40236
We're also both inexplicably servile and have been governed by the same ruling conservative party since the Second World War.
>> No. 40238 Anonymous
21st May 2023
Sunday 3:35 pm
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>>40233
>Japan have had an even worse stagnation than ours, with their economy being no larger than it was in 1993. We're in exactly the same rut and have essentially the same core problems. They're a useful co-conspirator, inasmuch as we're both pretending to be a global power while actually being a dying economy with no ideas for how to turn things around.

I reckon this is all good background for a relationship even if I'm a lot less pessimistic. Japan has since the Abe been trying to open markets to kickstart the economy, we're trying to do the same with Global Britain and it's all being done within the context of CPTPP that contains large emerging economies and our cousins in Australia and New Zealand. Not ideal to skirt WTO rules using a carpet-bagger-island in the Pacific but even if we'd stayed in the EU we'd still be on the periphery agitating for closer cooperation with Asia.

Without CPTPP we're the third and sixth largest economies working together and we're building links at a comparatively fast clip. Tempest with the Italians is absolutely miles ahead of FCAS and British software with Japanese robotics sounds like a competitive match.

How do we convince them to put milk in their tea?
>> No. 40239 Anonymous
21st May 2023
Sunday 5:34 pm
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I don't like this foreign troops on our soil business. Both us and the Japanese have to put up with that shit from the Americans, resulting in our teenagers dying on the roads and Okinawans getting raped.
>> No. 40284 Anonymous
5th June 2023
Monday 12:18 am
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>Getting Britain into CPTPP is “a coup” for British trade diplomacy, said a former senior official at the trade department. But it's a big boost for Japanese diplomacy too.

>Japan worked “really seriously” to get “the U.K. to accept all existing CPTPP rules without any exception, said Minako Morita-Jaeger, a senior research fellow in international trade at the University of Sussex Business School. The reason for that is China. Letting Britain bend the rules would set a precedent, she added. “This is why they do not want to compromise.”

>Canada tried to use those hard-and-fast rules as leverage to reverse Britain's ban on hormone-treated beef. But it backed down after Tokyo worked throughout the start of the year to “remind members of the spirit of cooperation,” said a diplomat from another member country.
https://www.politico.eu/article/britain-join-asia-pacific-trade-bloc-cptpp/

On the 31st it was agreed that Britain will join the CPTPP and official signing will be in July. In a twist of fate we might actually end up in a free trade agreement with China in the coming years, or at least we could if they ask us extra nicely. Apparently Japan will also soon announce it's joining of AUKUS which Canada has already expressed interest on joining on the advanced tech fronts.

Are you going to start paying for your anime in light of this?
>> No. 40285 Anonymous
5th June 2023
Monday 12:26 am
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>>40284

>Are you going to start paying for your anime in light of this?

No, but I will lobby the NHS to work on a treatment for Pixelated Genital Syndrome.
>> No. 42417 Anonymous
6th May 2025
Tuesday 2:59 pm
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>UK and India agree 'landmark' trade deal

>After three years of on-off negotiations, the UK and India have agreed a trade deal that will make it easier for UK firms to export whisky, cars and other products to India, and cut taxes on India's clothing and footwear exports. The deal does not include any change in immigration policy, including towards Indian students studying in the UK, the British government said.

>Business Secretary Jonathan Reynolds said the benefits for UK businesses and consumers were "massive". Last year trade between the UK and India totalled £41bn and was already forecast to grow, but the government said the deal would boost that trade by an additional £25.5bn a year by 2040. Mr Reynolds met his Indian counterpart Piyush Goyal in London last week to put the final touches on the deal.

>Once it comes into force, which could take up to a year, UK consumers are likely to benefit from the reduction in tariffs on goods coming into the country from India, the Department for Business said. As well as clothing, that will include some Indian foodstuffs, such as frozen prawns.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y6y90e5vzo
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-signs-trade-deal-with-india


I do quite like a prawn sandwich so this is a good deal for me.
>> No. 42418 Anonymous
6th May 2025
Tuesday 5:15 pm
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>>42417

Prawns, you say?
>> No. 42420 Anonymous
6th May 2025
Tuesday 6:46 pm
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>>42418
>As part of the agreement, the UK and India will strike a double contribution convention under which Indian workers temporarily living in the UK will not have to pay national insurance contributions for three years. The same applies to British workers in India, and meets a key demand by Delhi.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/may/06/uk-and-india-agree-trade-deal-after-three-years-of-negotiations

There'll be a two-tier society at any rate. But I don't know which one of us will be living in the shanty towns and eating dog food.
>> No. 42421 Anonymous
6th May 2025
Tuesday 7:08 pm
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>>42417
Am I meant to be mad about this national insurance thing or not?
>> No. 42422 Anonymous
6th May 2025
Tuesday 7:30 pm
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>>42420

The workers don't have to pay NI, or their employers don't? Or both?

That's why they are called Labour, innit. Because their main purpose is to ensure there's a steady supply of cheap foreign labour. It's in the name.
>> No. 42423 Anonymous
6th May 2025
Tuesday 7:47 pm
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>>42420
Aren't people who come to this country temporarily for work entitled to claim a refund on any NI they've paid when they leave?
>> No. 42424 Anonymous
6th May 2025
Tuesday 10:39 pm
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Good to see us being pulled into a war this quickly.

>>42423
No. It's something that gets negotiated in trade deals.
>> No. 42430 Anonymous
7th May 2025
Wednesday 4:49 pm
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So apparently it only applies to temporary workers on secondment, and it just means they keep paying into their home country's system and vice verso for Brits working in India. It does nothing to change immigration laws and there's nothing in it that exempts them from other forms of tax, only NI, and it's only a small amount of workers.

I want to believe the Labour man on the radio when he was explaining all that. But UK companies have been outsourcing entire IT departments to India for decades and this does sound like it just makes it a lot easier for them to send those lot's managers over for a few months of training, thus overall, making the elimination of UK workers even easier.

I think what makes me most cynical about it is the position that the Conservatives are attacking it from. Which only in turn tells me it's actually exactly the kind of deal they would have done. Meaning, one that shafts the British worker.

But it's probably not a big deal overall.
>> No. 42435 Anonymous
8th May 2025
Thursday 6:27 pm
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Look at how happy Trump is to hear Starmer sucking up to him from the 5 minute mark on. He even get him to do that duck face when he talks about the exact hour of VE day.



Still at 10% tariffs and apparently we've bought $10 billion worth of Boeing planes but at least we can send steel without tariffs now.

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