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>> No. 84342 Anonymous
14th July 2018
Saturday 11:29 pm
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In a string of texts Griffiths called himself “Daddy”, promised money if he received racy images and described perverted and rough sex he claimed to have had with other women.

The shamed Tory wrote:

• “I’m going to need something filthy to put a smile on my face. I want to see you both naked.”

• “Take off the bra and panties… you’ve got Daddy in such a frenzy.”

• “I’m going to bring you to London and do whatever I want to you.”

• “I’m thinking maybe we need a flat for Daddy’s girls. I’m taken by you both. You girls are spectacular.”

Many more messages go into shocking detail about his liking for certain sexual acts and are too disgusting to print in full.


https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/married-tory-minister-andrew-griffiths-12919581
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>> No. 84343 Anonymous
14th July 2018
Saturday 11:35 pm
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>>84342
What the fuck was he thinking.
>> No. 84344 Anonymous
14th July 2018
Saturday 11:50 pm
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Stitched up like a kipper.
>> No. 84345 Anonymous
15th July 2018
Sunday 12:01 am
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>The MP sent the girls money in return for X-rated pictures and videos.

>Imogen, 28, tonight told the Sunday Mirror: “I wanted him to be a nice guy, but by the end I felt dirty. I felt like I was being used for this wealthy man’s gratification.”

Really activates the almonds.
>> No. 84346 Anonymous
15th July 2018
Sunday 12:14 am
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>>84343
I guess he wanted to be a stereotypical sugar daddy, a powerful man buying women expensive gifts in exchange for sex.
>> No. 84347 Anonymous
15th July 2018
Sunday 12:26 am
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Boggles my mind how if you're a public figure you'd think you can get away with such things, in today's age.

I mean wouldn't you at least try and hide your identity? You just need to use a false name and in all likelihood these kind of bints would never find out you're their local MP. I certainly don't know what mine looks like.

I mean I'm a nobody and I try to keep tinder dates from finding out who I am in case they turn out to be a nutter.
>> No. 84348 Anonymous
15th July 2018
Sunday 1:35 am
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>>84345
What the fuck even is an activated almond?
>> No. 84349 Anonymous
15th July 2018
Sunday 1:47 am
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>>84347

>Boggles my mind how if you're a public figure you'd think you can get away with such things, in today's age.

I'm sure there is some sort of unintended correlation between the people who are involved in deviant acts and significant public figures I'm not quite sure why it seems to be at a much higher level than the background level for novel sexual activities. I think it might be a personality type.
>> No. 84350 Anonymous
15th July 2018
Sunday 2:56 am
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>>84348
Well I'm just someone with access to a searchable directory of virtually all of humanity's wisdom, but I think it is a pretentious health food freak term for almonds soaked in water.
>> No. 84351 Anonymous
15th July 2018
Sunday 6:48 am
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The gist of this story, is that these girls were 100% willing and consenting, until Imogen either got bored or decided that the papers would give her money than he would.

He's still a complete numpty not to have seen this coming though.
>> No. 84352 Anonymous
15th July 2018
Sunday 8:11 am
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Weirdest part is how he kept referring to himself as "Daddy" when you consider he had recently become a father when he was sending these messages.

>>84351
It's quite odd when you read up on it. He'd been stalking the two women on Facebook and Snapchat after one of them caught his eye whilst she was at work as a barmaid. He repeatedly watched their Snapchat videos for months, before deciding to message them after the lass who went to the papers uploaded a video in just her bra. He then kept pestering them for more videos and was offering money for it, with his demands becoming increasingly lewd and controlling over time.

He clearly pictures himself as some sort of powerful Fifty Shades of Grey type character.
>> No. 84353 Anonymous
15th July 2018
Sunday 8:45 am
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>>84352

>Weirdest part is how he kept referring to himself as "Daddy" when you consider he had recently become a father when he was sending these messages.

That's a very common part of this kink and has absolutely nothing to do with fatherhood. It's hard to explain without the context of years of being a sexual deviant, but it's a very normal thing to be saying in a dom/sub situation.

Still entirely odd and embarrassing to be read after you've finished your wank, mind.
>> No. 84354 Anonymous
15th July 2018
Sunday 8:48 am
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I used to find stuff like this funny but I actually find it kind of sad now that, whilst embarrassing, he's not actually done anything illegal and has merely participated in the type of fancy millions of adults up and down the country will enjoy or have at least tried during their sexual experiences.

It's weird seeing lads on here call it deviant behaviour and such yet in the other thread I can see lots of lads posting about how they smash posh girls with these sorts of kinks and nobody bats an eye.
>> No. 84355 Anonymous
15th July 2018
Sunday 8:54 am
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>>84354

Exactly my thoughts. This is rather mild as kinky stuff goes, when it comes down to it, and like you say, is not really that bothersome, other than the fact he's cheated on his wife I suppose, but I can't imagine he'd be forced to resign if he'd just been shagging some au pair or civil servant.

It's a bit sad he's had to say he's 'seeking help' as well. I suppose it reflects on how repressed we are as a country at heart.
>> No. 84356 Anonymous
15th July 2018
Sunday 9:01 am
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>>84354
>It's weird seeing lads on here call it deviant behaviour

Bombarding someone online with thousands of messages in the space of a few weeks is clearly the work of a wrong 'un.
>> No. 84357 Anonymous
15th July 2018
Sunday 9:43 am
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>>84352
But the Mirror said he "sent the girls money in return for X-rated pictures and videos". This suggests to me the videos were for a time forthcoming and >>84351 has it exactly right. You're a bit of a numpty if you think the bra video was a one-off and still she was happy to hand it over to the Mirror to publish so they can illustrate the innocent mistake that started this. Elsewhere they said he sent £700. If this was really an unwanted relationship (your words: a stalker) why would you accept that?

Two thousand messages and no mention of how she told him to fuck off, blocked his number or reported *an MP* to the police? No quotes of her messages at all in fact? Really makes you think.

They've really laid it on very thick, to the point of essentially lying about the nature of the story. "Man attempts to cheat on wife with barmaid who sent dirty pics" is going to get many fewer clicks than "MP relentlessly bombards and sexually harasses innocent lady".
>> No. 84358 Anonymous
15th July 2018
Sunday 9:53 am
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>>84357
>You're a bit of a numpty if you think the bra video was a one-off

The bra video was what prompted him to get in touch so she was clearly doing this sort of thing before for attention. If this is how she looks at age 28 then she's past her prime and trying to make the most of it as she declines. The Mirror video makes clear she's as thick as two short planks so she's probably aiming to be as famous as that lass Wayne Rooney was caught drunk driving with or the prostitutes who were bumming Keith Vaz.

However, it's clear he went full on here. It's one thing to send her money for saucy videos. It's another thing to message her two thousand times in the space of three weeks, offering to pay for a flat, buy her dresses and making all sorts of demands. Just because you consent to one thing doesn't mean you consent to other things; I suppose in your eyes doing those videos for money means that she's asking for it for whatever follows next.
>> No. 84359 Anonymous
15th July 2018
Sunday 10:17 am
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>>84358
I'm not sure you actually need to consent to receive text messages from private individuals. Obviously it'd approach harassment if they had one interaction and then he sent 2000 messages while she worked a shift at the pub but we know they were having conversations. She wanted to get to know him and his work she claimed. If you ask me conducting mutual conversations and sending dirty vids is consent enough for having sexual conversations.

Nowhere is it claimed she ever told him to stop contacting him. Nowhere is it claimed she told him to contact him less frequently. Nowhere is it claimed she told him to stop speaking sexually.

The man was watching her social media! How is he not in prison already? One rule for MPs and one rule for us. It's disgusting!

"A bit full on" is not a crime and even if it were the Daily Mirror is not responsible for nor interested in righting these wrongs. Might be good for a few more dollar bills though.

>I suppose in your eyes doing those videos for money means that she's asking for it for whatever follows next.
Erm, no?
>> No. 84360 Anonymous
15th July 2018
Sunday 10:36 am
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I mean, my girlfriend and I sent about 2000 messages to each other in the first month of our relationship, that's just a conversation online.

If it was a one way thing, him sending her 2000 messages and her not responding, then yeah, weird - but it's pretty clear they were talking to each other, which, even if he was more verbose, means SHE SENT HIM A THOUSAND MESSAGES! lock her up.
>> No. 84361 Anonymous
15th July 2018
Sunday 11:37 am
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>>84360 You're a filthy perv and so is your mrs. Probably worth selling your story to the mirror for a few quid? Are you photogenic? Do you have access to stock photos of photogenic people, if not?
>> No. 84362 Anonymous
15th July 2018
Sunday 12:56 pm
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>>84361

>Are you photogenic?

The missus is, I'm questionable, which I think makes it even more tabloid worthy.

SICK INTERNET FILTH RAT DEGRADES ATTRACTIVE NORMAL YOUNG WOMAN
>> No. 84363 Anonymous
15th July 2018
Sunday 1:00 pm
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>>84362

The man, 29, believed to have ties to online gay shed fetish website 'britfa'
>> No. 84364 Anonymous
15th July 2018
Sunday 1:14 pm
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>>84363
What's a gay shed look like?
>> No. 84365 Anonymous
15th July 2018
Sunday 1:19 pm
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>>84364
>> No. 84366 Anonymous
15th July 2018
Sunday 1:55 pm
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>>84365
What's gay about hammers? Is there some link between homosexuality and hammers that I'm missing, unless this is the Confederation of Gay Builders or something? Why's it got to be pink? Why've they got to have special pink hammers? Surprised they haven't gone all out and made the handle a cock.
>> No. 84367 Anonymous
15th July 2018
Sunday 2:32 pm
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>>84366
I'm guessing either something something Freud or something something commies. It's odd how many LGBT/LGBT-sympathetic types at my uni proudly sported USSR garb or flags given the Union's stance on homosexuality. If they were being charitable you were merely a person with an unfortunate psychiatric condition, less charitably you were infected with Western degeneracy and an active threat to the revolution if you dared talk about it. Russian views on these matters are nothing new.
>> No. 84370 Anonymous
15th July 2018
Sunday 3:50 pm
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>>84366

The float is for PlaceMakers, which is like a Kiwi version of B&Q. I assume the blokes dressed as a hammer because he works on DIY and that.

Either that or because they hammer each others bumholes with their knobs.
>> No. 84371 Anonymous
15th July 2018
Sunday 3:52 pm
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>>84367
It's odd how many LGBT/LGBT-sympathetic types at my uni proudly remember the fallen on Remembrance Day given the allies' stance on homosexuality. If they were being charitable you were merely a person with an unfortunate psychiatric condition, less charitably you were infected with perverted degeneracy and an active threat to the society if you dared talk about it. Western views on these matters are something new.
>> No. 84372 Anonymous
15th July 2018
Sunday 4:13 pm
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>>84371
You surely can't think this is an adequate comparison? Remembrance Day is to mourn the horrors of the ordinary men and women who got caught up in the pointless slaughter of war, not bemoan its cost to the invidious British imperialism that preceded it.
>> No. 84373 Anonymous
15th July 2018
Sunday 4:38 pm
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>>84372
It's odd how many LGBT/LGBT-sympathetic types at my uni proudly celebrate the 1966 World Cup victory given the English stance on homosexuality. If they were being charitable you were merely a person with an unfortunate psychiatric condition, less charitably you were infected with perverted degeneracy and an active threat to society if you dared talk about it. English views on these matters are something new, although football remains stubbornly unwilling to accept this given a total absence of openly gay top flight footballers to this day.
>> No. 84374 Anonymous
15th July 2018
Sunday 5:54 pm
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>>84373
I'm really not drunk enough to find your shitposting funny, lad. I'm sure you're a strong, independent privileged westerner who don't need no capitalism.
>> No. 84376 Anonymous
15th July 2018
Sunday 6:35 pm
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>>84374
You'll recall that you were the one suggesting the gays ought to criticise the USSR on its treatment of gays rather than its failed economic system.
>> No. 84380 Anonymous
16th July 2018
Monday 2:22 pm
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>>84376
>failed economic system
Fuck off.
>> No. 84381 Anonymous
16th July 2018
Monday 2:35 pm
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>>84380
n1 m8
>> No. 84522 Anonymous
6th November 2018
Tuesday 5:05 pm
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Now, nearly four months on, the former minister is trying to work out how he went from being a respected figure at the dispatch box to lying sedated in a hospital bed after a mental breakdown.

“I have re-read the messages I sent and they reduced me to tears,” he whispered on Friday. “I am ashamed of those texts, but more ashamed that my wife had to read them. Many of them I do not even remember sending.”

The first Kate knew of the messages was when he warned her in the 48 hours before the tabloid published the story. When we meet in a private office in Westminster, Griffiths is almost unrecognisable. He has lost more than two stones and the clothes hang from his frame. His eyes have the appearance of recent tears and his hands are shaking.

Until now he has been banned from discussing his resignation. But after last week’s meeting of the disciplinary panel, which is expected to rule shortly on whether he will be kicked out of the Conservative Party, Griffiths is free to speak.

His voice cracks as he explains why he feels he must tell his side of the story. When he was growing up in Dudley in the 1970s, his father was the only Tory councillor. He remembers the playground taunts and is determined his daughter will not suffer the same fate.

“I don’t for one second try to excuse what I did,” he asserts. “The texts were horrible and I apologise hugely for them, and to everyone I have hurt. I am ashamed and embarrassed. But I need to put into context why it happened, so that in 15 years, when my daughter reads this interview, she’ll understand exactly why I found myself in this terrible situation. The worst thing about the scandal is its effect on Kate and eventually Alice, he says. “I have embarrassed and humiliated the people I love most. But it’s only through hours and hours of talking with therapists and psychotherapists that I now understand the drivers that made me act the way I did.”

Although the immediate cause of his breakdown was recent, he says the origin of his depression and mental illness is in childhood, when he was eight years old and was sexually abused by an older boy.

“When my own daughter was born, I became obsessed by my childhood and not wanting her to suffer in the way that I had,” he says. “I worried about Alice having to cope alone.” Griffiths’s father was 48 when he was born and spent much of his childhood in and out of hospital before he died when the MP was 25. He recalls an incident when he was 18 and his father wet himself as he tried to get off a hospital trolley.

“I remember picking up a load of paper towels and trying to clean him up, and I became obsessed with Alice not having to go through something similar — that’s just anxiety and the way it works.”

Griffiths pinpoints the moment his mental health started to collapse at another happy event this year. When Alice was two months old, he watched his 31-year-old niece walk down the aisle.

“It was such a perfect day and the sun was shining and I could not have been any happier,” he muses. “And then it just hit me that if Alice gets married at 31 like my niece was, then I would be 79.”

Already anxious, he learnt a few weeks later that his brother had cancer and was to have his colon removed. It was a terrifying reminder of his own mortality. Two days later he sent the first incriminating text to the barmaid. “The irony is that my brother is now cured of his cancer and is going to the football and enjoying a beer, and yet my mental health continues to poleaxe me,” he says softly.


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/andrew-griffiths-mental-breakdown-drove-mp-to-send-shameful-sex-texts-q83dp9qgg

It was getting carpet-baggerd, my dad dying, my niece getting married and my brother getting cancer wot made me do it.
>> No. 84637 Anonymous
19th December 2018
Wednesday 1:28 pm
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>>84342

Those who reject god tend to find a willing travelling partner in Satan... such degeneracy is unsurprising.

The bible warns against sexual irresponsibility

It always leads to depravity and cruelty... our return to Gommorah
>> No. 84662 Anonymous
19th December 2018
Wednesday 8:09 pm
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>>84522

All this for being a bit kinky. If he'd merely cheated on his wife with some other middle aged bint he'd likely never have even seen the dull end of the news cycle, but because he was a bit more interesting about it, his life, and apparently mind, has been destroyed.
>> No. 84666 Anonymous
19th December 2018
Wednesday 8:53 pm
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>>84522
I dunno. I want to feel his pain, but this seems like a bunch of excuses.
>> No. 84710 Anonymous
22nd December 2018
Saturday 3:05 pm
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>>84342
>>84666



I'd really like to know why nobody just says: "OK, I did wrong, I behaved like a pig, I am sorry." All this melodrama with the (probably fake) hospitalisation, mental breakdown and revelation of (GASP!) childhood abuse feel just like deep denial. At least to me. It looks like manning up and admitting your own faults went out of fashion.
>> No. 84711 Anonymous
22nd December 2018
Saturday 3:26 pm
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>>84710

I'd respect anyone who would just say "Yeah I cheated on my wife and I'm into 19 year olds, but none of that affects my work, so get over it"

Not entirely sure why we should expect him to apologise at all to anyone but his missu, and that certainly shouldn't be done in public.
>> No. 84712 Anonymous
22nd December 2018
Saturday 3:30 pm
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>>84711

BoJo, Trump and Saville have shown the power of brazenness in politics. It probably doesn't say great things about our society, but a lot of people respect someone who just says "I'm an arsehole, I'm not going to change for anyone, deal with it".
>> No. 84713 Anonymous
22nd December 2018
Saturday 3:33 pm
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>>84712

I find this works in real life, too. People seem comfortable with a wanker as long as they're self aware and unapologetic about it.

I think it might be because we don't actually believe nice people are nice.
>> No. 84714 Anonymous
22nd December 2018
Saturday 4:22 pm
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>>84712
I think the effect is probably more on the public at large than at the bubble they're in. I mean be honest, does anyone in the general public actually know who this guy is? It's more the kind of scandal that bothers people in the westminster-media-that-kind-of-thing bubble, the people who actually vaguely know about him. If you appeal beyond them to the general public, the general public will either find out you exist and some of them will be with you, or they'll respond with silence - proving they're not actually outraged at all.

I feel like the UK could do with someone truly Brazen, someone who doesn't equivocate on their nastiness or retreat, a sort of Trump type, just to show that emperor middle-class decency is well and truly in the nude. Perhaps our libel laws are why that's not happened yet.
>> No. 86701 Anonymous
8th September 2019
Sunday 7:28 pm
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A Conservative MP who sent sexual messages to two barmaids has been cleared of wrongdoing by the parliamentary standards watchdog.

Andrew Griffiths, 48, resigned as small business minister last July after the messages were published in a newspaper. The watchdog said it found no evidence he sent them while he would have been engaged in parliamentary activities. Allegations he breached the House of Commons Code of Conduct were not upheld, it added.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-49626762
>> No. 86722 Anonymous
10th September 2019
Tuesday 12:06 am
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Disgraceful. I'll never be voting Tory again after this.
>> No. 86735 Anonymous
10th September 2019
Tuesday 3:13 pm
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It's as though we expect MPs not to be human. Embarrassing, sure, but is it really in the public interest? Perhaps the sexual development our culture is going through might help to address such issues.

>I suppose in your eyes doing those videos for money means that she's asking for it for whatever follows next.
It certianly means they're likely to be receptive to similar offers.
>> No. 86736 Anonymous
10th September 2019
Tuesday 5:37 pm
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>>86735

It all reaks to me of someone trying to make a quick buck by selling out to the papers. They probably could have networked their way into something quite lucrative if they had keeped their mouth shut. Instead they've probably got themselves blacked balled from the biggest opportunity of their life and any others where discretion is expected, but they are probably too stupid to realise it.
>> No. 86748 Anonymous
10th September 2019
Tuesday 7:10 pm
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>>86736
Reeks, not reaks. Wreak is a word but not the same one.

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