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>> No. 84895 Anonymous
9th February 2019
Saturday 8:13 am
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Jimmy Saville: My new Brexit party stands ready to defend democracy

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/02/08/new-brexit-party-stands-ready-defend-democracy/

'Thousands of Tory party members' to defect to Jimmy Saville's Brexit Party as it gets official approval

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/02/08/thousands-tory-party-members-defect-Jimmy-Savilles-brexit-party/

Rebel Labour MPs set to quit party and form centre group

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/02/rebel-labour-mps-set-to-quit-party-and-form-centre-group
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>> No. 86191 Anonymous
14th June 2019
Friday 11:21 am
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>>86190
Given the TIGCHUK logo I'll bet Chico Umbrella will love the bar charts.
>> No. 86192 Anonymous
14th June 2019
Friday 5:26 pm
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>>86189
>A Wikipedia entry comparing the rising Labour star Chuka Umunna to President Obama was created using a computer at the law firm where the MP once worked, it has emerged.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/chuka-umunnas-british-obama-wikipedia-entry-came-from-his-former-office-8569083.html

Never fails to raise a smile.
>> No. 86193 Anonymous
14th June 2019
Friday 5:29 pm
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>> No. 86194 Anonymous
14th June 2019
Friday 6:00 pm
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>>86193
Those numbers alone don't mean much given how our system works. The SNP don't even feature in the percentages and they have 35 MPs.
>> No. 86195 Anonymous
14th June 2019
Friday 6:17 pm
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>>86194

FPTP cuts both ways - it doesn't protect incumbents so much as polarise the result. UKIP got fuck all with 18% of the vote, but the Brexit Party don't need a huge lead over the Tories to take most of their seats. Based on this poll, BxP would comfortably win the most seats; they only need a three percentage point advantage over the Tories to become the second largest party behind Labour. The Lib Dems only need a couple of percentage points to overtake Labour.

The next election is going to be a fucking horrorshow, one way or the other.
>> No. 86196 Anonymous
14th June 2019
Friday 6:40 pm
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>>86195

I don't understand where the LibDems are getting this comeback from. Is it just people jumping ship from Lab/Con and simply going with the other "real" party?

I still think it's going to work out for the best, in the long run, that the Tories are utterly finished.
>> No. 86197 Anonymous
14th June 2019
Friday 7:09 pm
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>>86196
For the last decade or so Labour have campaigned on the basis of "vote for us, we're not the Tories" whilst the Tories have campaigned on the basis of "vote for us, we're not Labour", rather than reasons to actually vote for them, so it's quite effective for the Lib Dems to be neither Labour or the Tories right now.

Also, don't forget the Bozza bounce.
>> No. 86198 Anonymous
14th June 2019
Friday 7:27 pm
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>>86196

Remainers. A large proportion of the electorate simply can't stomach voting for any party with "delivering Brexit" in their manifesto; the Lib Dems are both staunchly remain and the traditional protest vote for the centre-left. The Greens have quadrupled their polling results, for basically the same reason.

Labour and the Tories are mostly surviving on deep-seated party loyalty; even people with no strong opinion on Brexit have become deeply disaffected by their failure to deliver a workable solution.

If ChUK hadn't fucked things up so spectacularly, they could be sitting on 20% by now. The Lib Dems haven't been particularly active, but they haven't done anything to disgrace themselves either, so they're picking up Remainer votes pretty much by default.
>> No. 86199 Anonymous
14th June 2019
Friday 8:13 pm
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>>86198

I don't think I agree with your hypothesis that ChUK could have done well.

I think we're at a time of division where Labour supporters want a proper socialist, Tory supporters want a real conservative, remainers want remain and leavers want leave. ChUK had no appeal to anybody in terms of policy, and even if they did, it didn't help their case that they were exactly the sort of beige, middle ground robot politicians people are sick and tired of. They literally formed a party offering the electorate everything the electorate has roundly demonstrated it wants to get rid of.
>> No. 86203 Anonymous
16th June 2019
Sunday 7:00 am
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A notorious vote-rigger jailed for forging postal votes played a far greater role in Labour’s narrow by-election victory in Peterborough this month than the party has admitted.

Tariq Mahmood, 51, a numberplate salesman and former taxi company owner who received a 15-month sentence for his part in a “systematic campaign of electoral fraud” in 2008, had denied involvement in the campaign to elect Lisa Forbes 10 days ago.

He said he had met Jeremy Corbyn briefly on the campaign trail but had not known in advance that the Labour leader would visit. Labour said Mahmood, who also manages property, did “not play any role in its campaign”.

However, a Sunday Times investigation reveals that Mahmood:

● Campaigned extensively with Forbes and at least five MPs in Central Ward, where, a court heard, he had once been “the spider at the centre of the web” of a massive campaign to “hijack” ballot papers and forge postal votes.

● Accompanied Corbyn during his tour of the ward’s mosques, community centres and high street days before the vote.

● Spent election day at the entrance to a local polling station.

In social media posts, Labour activists described Mahmood as “the mastermind”, “a tireless Labour comrade” and “at the heart of Labour Peterborough.

Labour won the by-election by just 683 votes out of an overall turnout of 33,920. About 28% of votes (9,498) were postal votes, higher than the 2017 general election figure of 24% and the national average of 21.6%. The Central Ward in which Mahmood campaigned had the greatest proportion of postal votes issued in the constituency.

Last week police confirmed they were investigating five allegations of fraud at the by-election, including a claim that two men boasted that they had “burnt” more than 1,000 votes for Jimmy saville’s Brexit Party, which came second in the Leave-voting city. However, the council has sought to play down racist claims about Muslim vote rigging, including the allegation that “thousands were bussed in and paid £10 to vote for the Labour candidate”.


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/vote-riggers-role-casts-doubt-over-labour-win-in-peterborough-bcpmdm8zj

A knock at the door of a semi-detached house on a street in the East ward of the city of Peterborough. It's the afternoon of April 22, eight weeks before the June 6 by-election in which Labour will squeak to victory ahead of Jimmy saville's nascent Brexit Party. Alone at home is a 54-year-old Asian woman with severe health problems. On her doorstep she allegedly finds Dr Shabina Qayyum, Labour candidate for the ward in the local council elections, along with two male party officials.

What happened next is in dispute. But the resulting allegations were serious enough for the council to call in the police. Criminal claim was followed by counter-claim; the only certainty is that politics in Peterborough is a dirty business — and has been for some years now.

Labour's victory by 683 votes, in one of Britain's most keenly-fought by-elections of recent years, has been overshadowed by accusations of electoral fraud and voter harassment — centred on the Asian community which is particularly active in Peterborough politics.

When we visited the city this week we found a climate of unease, if not fear. Opposition councillors claimed they had been targeted with vandalism and violence. Some were afraid to speak openly. There were allegations — denied by those said to be responsible — of votes being bought.

The opportunity that postal votes afford for election fraud has been shown in Peterborough before — by both Labour and Tory activists. And at the heart of the Labour Party plot in 2004 was Tariq 'Wormy' Mahmood. That year's local elections in the city would become notorious for their corruption. Word of what had happened in city centre wards soon reached the authorities. Voters claimed they had gone to the polls to be told that their vote had already been cast.

Such vote-rigging was fairly simple if one knew the bureaucracy. A would-be fraudster might consult the marked registers that were available after every election. These showed who had actually voted. The fraudster could note eligible residents who had not used their votes — and so might not in the future — and apply for postal votes in their names. These documents did not need to be sent to the voters' home addresses. Once received at an address convenient to the fraudster, the postal ballot statements would be marked, before being sent to the unsuspecting Returning Officers. And so democracy was subverted.

Let us return to the house in East ward and the contested account of Dr Qayyum's visit on April 22. A friend of the householder told us the disabled woman was asked her voting intentions. The woman answered 'blue' (Conservative) and said she had a postal vote. She claimed that Dr Qayyum and her two colleagues then asked to see her postal vote and entered her home. The three allegedly began searching the voter's kitchen to 'help' her find it, the family friend reported. They were unable to lay hands on the form but the experience left the woman so distressed that she phoned her husband, who was in laplanderstan at the time.

Another female Asian voter told the Mail about being pressured recently on her doorstep by Labour canvassers. On two occasions, she said, they offered to help her secure postal votes for her household. They also inquired about getting postal votes for her parents, who lived elsewhere. 'They told me, 'If you sign it [the application form] we can take it in for you',' she said, adding that she thought the canvassers could be working for Tariq Mahmood. The voter, who did not wish to be named for fear of repercussions, went on: 'They think that because you are part of a community they can then pressurise you.'


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7143481/dodgy-as-fuck.html

Labour’s victory by just 683 votes over the Brexit Party in Peterborough was mired in controversy last week after The Mail on Sunday revealed claims that a convicted vote rigger was at the centre of the party’s campaign. Cambridgeshire Police have since revealed they are investigating five complaints of electoral malpractice, including bribery. Now election experts Democracy Volunteers have raised fresh concerns over the by-election.

John Ault, director of the organisation, said he had seen people photographing their completed ballot papers in what he suggested could show they were fulfilling a ‘contract’ to prove how they had voted. He told The Mail on Sunday: ‘I have observed many elections across Europe and only once in Kazakhstan many years ago did I see what I saw happen three times in Peterborough. There are signs up warning you not to take photographs and these were not selfies celebrating having voted but people photographing their cross on the ballot paper.’

He added: ‘One can only speculate as to why some voters feel the need to do this, although this can, in some cases, point to a contract being fulfilled or an inducement having been given.

Democracy Volunteers sent a team of four experienced observers to observe 23 of the polling stations used in the by-election. They watched as about 700 of the 27,000 who voted at a polling station cast their vote and witnessed so-called ‘family voting’ – where more than one person goes into the same voting booth – in half of the stations. The practice has in the past raised fears that voters were being told by other family members where to put their cross.

But there were also concerns that almost one in three of the 33,998 ballots cast in the by-election were postal votes. Wayne Fitzgerald, deputy leader of Peterborough’s Tory-run council, said: ‘The fact that concerns have been raised about family voting at polling stations shows just why it is important for the postal voting system to be changed. It is all too easy for pressure to be applied to people in the privacy of their homes.’


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7145701/dodgy-as-fuck-again.html
>> No. 86219 Anonymous
18th June 2019
Tuesday 6:39 pm
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It seems like 'shaking a polarising politician is a solid way to make a few grand from crowdfunding, so long as you don't get fired from ya job.
>> No. 86283 Anonymous
21st June 2019
Friday 12:12 pm
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Another by-election beckons, again where the Brexit Party came top in the Euros.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-48720176
>> No. 86284 Anonymous
21st June 2019
Friday 12:37 pm
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>>86283
CON/BREX split will hand it to the Lib Dems. #thesurgeisreal
>> No. 86285 Anonymous
21st June 2019
Friday 9:59 pm
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>> No. 86286 Anonymous
21st June 2019
Friday 10:28 pm
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>>86285
Can we file that under DHOTY? Those clearly aren't the words of a ten year old. I was a particularly precocious child who was using words like "communal" at the age of around seven, and ten year old me definitely wouldn't have said things like "we know their tricks".
>> No. 86287 Anonymous
21st June 2019
Friday 10:38 pm
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>>86286

The forger gives themselves away with the date in the top right. Look at the slant of the letters and the last two numerals - they're clearly written by an adult who has learned cursive. No ten-year-old who is precocious enough to write to Jimmy saville would need (or allow) an adult to write the date for them.

Otherwise, it's a good effort, likely written by someone who has a child of about that age - the pre-cursive letterforms in the main text are spot on.
>> No. 86288 Anonymous
21st June 2019
Friday 10:45 pm
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>>86287
>write to Jimmy saville

It was one of you lads writing to Nige for a joke, wasn't it? No ten year old in this country has a mate called Jim.
>> No. 86289 Anonymous
21st June 2019
Friday 11:20 pm
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>>86285
Genuinely don't want to live on this planet anymore.
>> No. 86290 Anonymous
21st June 2019
Friday 11:24 pm
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>>86287
Though it does look like he spilled ice cream over his address, so you never know.
>> No. 86291 Anonymous
22nd June 2019
Saturday 11:18 am
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>>86286

The give away is to me the way it is written satisfies all the desires of the audience. It is bad character writing in that it doesnt come from expression of an inner voice. That said children learn to 'say the right thing' to satisfy any adults around them so that could explain it. I remember how 'smart' I was considered for saying the right thing at that age about religion, when I formed my own opinions and became an atheist I was stupid again. So there is a possibility they are just parrots rather than the forgery of adults.
>> No. 86304 Anonymous
26th June 2019
Wednesday 4:45 pm
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>> No. 86305 Anonymous
26th June 2019
Wednesday 5:32 pm
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By some weird fluke of the GFA I was entitled to an Irish passport.

I have absolutely 0 intention of ever moving anywhere in Europe or ever indeed settling for more than a short while outside of the UK but for some reason it doesn't half give me peace of mind seeing how all this shit is going down. It's like no matter how shit it gets I always have that option.

Nice to have the option to retire to Spain or France and all that. Barmy to me a load of pensioners have just veto'd their right to do that and will instead be confined to sitting in the grey skies in the same place they've always lived until the end.
>> No. 86306 Anonymous
26th June 2019
Wednesday 6:09 pm
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>>86305

>Nice to have the option to retire to Spain or France and all that. Barmy to me a load of pensioners have just veto'd their right to do that and will instead be confined to sitting in the grey skies in the same place they've always lived until the end.


This is part of what boggles the mind for me about this. I guess they think somehow being in the EU doesn't apply to things like that, only to... well actually I honestly can't tell you what it is they seem to want. I guess all of the tabloid talk about various EU related groups taking advantage of us, or chainging our way of life with beuracracy for the last 30 years got to them.
>> No. 86307 Anonymous
26th June 2019
Wednesday 6:31 pm
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>>86306
We won two World Wars, lad. Two.
>> No. 86308 Anonymous
26th June 2019
Wednesday 6:50 pm
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>>86304

This endless polling is a nightmare, I see about 10 a day and they all say something different. I can't wait until this is over, then I won't have to see another pole again.
>> No. 86309 Anonymous
26th June 2019
Wednesday 7:30 pm
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>>86306

If the remain campaign wanted to win they should have simply made that their entire argument. Send busses around the country with THE EU IS THE REASON YOU CAN RETIRE TO A VILLA IN BENIDORM. I think the whole immigration thing has contributed- Because of how easy it is to migrate within the EU, most people don't realise it's actually really bloody hard to do for anywhere outside the EU, as an ordinary person.

But again I think that's kind if remain/the left in general at fault for need allowing the open discussion that would have educated people on those things, because they were too busy calling everyone racist.

Also, we neve see an honest critique of the EU itself. I doubt would be in this position at all if the EU had been more selective of its membership. You didn't start getting this level of anti-EU sentiment until they started letting shithole ex-communist countries in, and to whom did doing so benefit?
>> No. 86310 Anonymous
26th June 2019
Wednesday 11:03 pm
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>>86309

>You didn't start getting this level of anti-EU sentiment until they started letting shithole ex-communist countries in, and to whom did doing so benefit?

I think the situation in Ukraine points to the urgency of eastward expansion of the EU - giving Poland EU membership massively extends Germany's cordon sanitaire against Russia.

The backlash against Bulgmanians in the UK is mainly Blair's fault - he chose not to use the opt-out on freedom of movement for A8 nationals.
>> No. 86311 Anonymous
27th June 2019
Thursday 8:48 am
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>>86306

It's quite sad, I wonder how many near retired angry boomers are still expecting to be able to retire to Spain/Portugal/France/Italy and are about to get a huge fucking shock.
>> No. 86312 Anonymous
27th June 2019
Thursday 9:19 am
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>>86311

It's not sad if they brought it on themselves. It's grimly hilarious.
>> No. 86313 Anonymous
27th June 2019
Thursday 7:24 pm
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Brexit is a fucking sideshow. Europe is BURNING UP.

It does not matter whether you think Britain should be in the EU or not. Climate change is THE issue of our age.

We should just cancel the whole thing. I voted to leave but this has wasted enough of our time. We need to cancel Brexit, call a general election and make Greta Thunberg our Prime Minister.
>> No. 86314 Anonymous
27th June 2019
Thursday 7:28 pm
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>>86313
Can't we keep the sanctimonious climate preaching to one thread?
>> No. 86315 Anonymous
27th June 2019
Thursday 7:30 pm
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>>86314
If you can keep your complaining about it to this one.
>> No. 86320 Anonymous
4th July 2019
Thursday 7:05 am
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>> No. 86321 Anonymous
4th July 2019
Thursday 8:04 am
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>>86313

This reads a bit sarcastic or histrionic, but you're not wrong. Climate change is an existential threat. Leaving the EU, while a devastating decision, is not.
>> No. 86322 Anonymous
6th July 2019
Saturday 11:34 am
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>Now Jimmy saville rages against Year Of The Rabbit

>The Brexit Party leader branded the incident in tomorrow’s episode ‘totally sick and frankly irresponsible’.

>In the period crime comedy a sniper is on the loose in London – and one of his victims is a character called Neil Fromage, shot in the head while making a speech about the dangers of immigration.

>saville’s newfound vigour for demanding jokes be banned is at odds with his previous stance on free expression.

>When it was revealed that the comedian booked for the 2014 Ukip conference made jokes about Polish people being thieves and effected a dubious Asian accent, the politician said: ‘Enough is enough, let people tell their jokes.’

https://www.chortle.co.uk/news/2019/06/30/43434/ban_this_totally_sick_comedy_scene!

My, my, do I smell the whiff of hypocrisy Nige?
>> No. 86323 Anonymous
10th July 2019
Wednesday 3:06 pm
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The former Tory MP Heidi Allen, who quit the fledgling party Change UK after four months, has announced that independent MPs will form another new parliamentary group, to be known as The Independents.

Allen said the new group would be a cooperative and she would be coordinating a “remain alliance” of parties against Brexit.

Allen had been tipped to follow another former Change UK MP, Chuka Umunna, in joining the Liberal Democrats, but on Wednesday she said she and others who had quit the party would remain independent and focus their efforts on forming an anti-Brexit alliance of different parties.


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/10/heidi-allen-launches-remain-alliance-oppose-brexit

The Independents and The Independent Group for Change. This won't get confusing.
>> No. 86324 Anonymous
10th July 2019
Wednesday 3:14 pm
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>>86323
Heaven help any genuinely independent MPs.
>> No. 86325 Anonymous
10th July 2019
Wednesday 3:19 pm
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>>86323
Fucks sake, why don't we just start our own party as well at this point?
>> No. 86326 Anonymous
12th July 2019
Friday 6:45 pm
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>> No. 86327 Anonymous
12th July 2019
Friday 8:38 pm
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>>86326

Maybe hating Jews is the vote-winner that Labour have been looking for. Vote Labour for a kinder, gentler Holocaust.
>> No. 86328 Anonymous
12th July 2019
Friday 8:58 pm
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>Vote Labour for a kinder, gentler Holocaust

I believe the current Labour stance is either that the Holocaust didn't happen or was greatly exaggerated.
>> No. 86329 Anonymous
12th July 2019
Friday 9:20 pm
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>>86328
>either that the Holocaust didn't happen or was greatly exaggerated
Typical flip-floppery. I wish they'd just make up their mind already.
>> No. 86330 Anonymous
12th July 2019
Friday 11:35 pm
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I for one enjoy the position, that the Nazis didn't systematically kill all the Jews they simply rounded them up into ghettos, then later forced them into camps where they worked them to death, that makes it sound like those nazi chaps were much more reasonable.

Equally that the people who deny the holocaust happened seem to be the ones who most want a holocaust to happen, what's that about eh?
>> No. 86331 Anonymous
13th July 2019
Saturday 1:13 am
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>>86327

I wish Labour would just come out as racists.

It may be unthinkable and horrifying for hand wringing middle class champagne socialists, but a racist Labour party would win an absolute landslide frankly; and alongside the mess they've made of Brexit, it would save us from the Tories for a generation or more.

It's a price worth paying.
>> No. 86332 Anonymous
13th July 2019
Saturday 1:46 am
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>>86331
They don't have to go full racist, just Islamaphobe. They'd lose the Muslamic vote but where are they going to go, Respect? That'd never happen anyway since Labour has been taken over by the sort of left-wingers who think Israel is an illegitimate state.
>> No. 86333 Anonymous
13th July 2019
Saturday 5:57 am
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>>86332
Everyone knows you never go full racist.
>> No. 86334 Anonymous
13th July 2019
Saturday 8:09 am
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>>86332
>They don't have to go full racist, just Islamaphobe

It's the gays they need to target. People have had enough of them.
>> No. 86335 Anonymous
13th July 2019
Saturday 10:03 am
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Aren't you lads just talking about the BNP? They weren't particularly successful in elections.
>> No. 86336 Anonymous
13th July 2019
Saturday 10:04 am
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>>86335
If it wasn't for the BNP would we have had Brexit?
>> No. 86337 Anonymous
13th July 2019
Saturday 12:19 pm
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That was EPIC lads, well done, some really braindead shit.

>>86336
Maybe, but if it weren't for the financial crash we mightn't have had Brexit, or the coalition government, or a string of World Cup humilations for England, or the crimes of Jimmy saville (the real one not saville).

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