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>> No. 88122 Anonymous
12th December 2019
Thursday 10:01 pm
88122 2019 results thread
CON 368 (MAJ 86)
LAB 191
SNP 55
LD 13
OTH 23

Well fuck.
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>> No. 88127 Anonymous
12th December 2019
Thursday 10:06 pm
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If these numbers hold up, Jo Swinson and Adam Price will likely be gone, and something will be very wrong if Corbyn doesn't go.
>> No. 88128 Anonymous
12th December 2019
Thursday 10:07 pm
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The last two exit polls have underestimated Tory support slightly, probably due to the Shy Tory effect.
>> No. 88130 Anonymous
12th December 2019
Thursday 10:10 pm
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Fingers crossed they have severely underestimated the youth/student vote.

If not...I despair, I really do.
>> No. 88133 Anonymous
12th December 2019
Thursday 10:13 pm
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>>88127
>something will be very wrong if Corbyn doesn't go.

I have a bad feeling if the exit poll is correct that Corbyn and his acolytes won't change a thing.
>> No. 88134 Anonymous
12th December 2019
Thursday 10:17 pm
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>>88122
mfw tbh

(A good day to you Sir!)
>> No. 88138 Anonymous
12th December 2019
Thursday 10:27 pm
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>> No. 88139 Anonymous
12th December 2019
Thursday 10:28 pm
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10% swing to the Tories predicted.

This democracy lark has been fun this past century. I'll miss it when it's gone.
>> No. 88143 Anonymous
12th December 2019
Thursday 10:33 pm
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>>88133

Why should they? They were perfectly in the right, it's the media etc sticking the odds against them who need to change
>> No. 88146 Anonymous
12th December 2019
Thursday 10:35 pm
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>>88143
This wasn't even funny when Dear Leader's fans started parroting it in the first place.
>> No. 88150 Anonymous
12th December 2019
Thursday 10:40 pm
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>>88146
My Facebook feed is now full-on cope from those who've spent weeks spamming pro-Labour posts.
>> No. 88151 Anonymous
12th December 2019
Thursday 10:44 pm
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>>88150
>cope
I know it's a big evening, but let's keep a certain level of decency is play.
>> No. 88158 Anonymous
12th December 2019
Thursday 11:12 pm
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If Blyth goes to a recount when is the next seat expected to declare?
>> No. 88161 Anonymous
12th December 2019
Thursday 11:17 pm
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>>88122
I keep forgetting I live in London. I should stop being surprised. Other parts of this country is weird to me now.
>> No. 88162 Anonymous
12th December 2019
Thursday 11:17 pm
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>> No. 88164 Anonymous
12th December 2019
Thursday 11:19 pm
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>>88158
Does it really matter? I don't get the obsession with being "first". It's making think of the most cliched YouTube comment, in a lot of ways.
>> No. 88165 Anonymous
12th December 2019
Thursday 11:21 pm
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>>88164
I don't care who's first, I just want to know how long I should be waiting until more results come in.
>> No. 88166 Anonymous
12th December 2019
Thursday 11:24 pm
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Well then. It looks like I'm going to have to start saving up for the surgery I was supposed to be having next year.
>> No. 88168 Anonymous
12th December 2019
Thursday 11:25 pm
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On the plus side, the housing market's going to plummet through it's own fucking arse. At least I'll be able to afford a house then.
>> No. 88170 Anonymous
12th December 2019
Thursday 11:29 pm
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The exit poll is yet another media smear. Labour have won literally every seat so far declared.
>> No. 88171 Anonymous
12th December 2019
Thursday 11:30 pm
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The state of those Sunderland candidates, Christ alive, this is being shown around the globe.
>> No. 88172 Anonymous
12th December 2019
Thursday 11:31 pm
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>>88171
The Lib Dem candidate looked like they'd just roped a special needs kid into standing.

At least Nige stopped the Tories from taking it.
>> No. 88173 Anonymous
12th December 2019
Thursday 11:32 pm
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The Tories taking Blyth. What a fucking farce.
>> No. 88174 Anonymous
12th December 2019
Thursday 11:33 pm
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>>88173
10% swing!!
>> No. 88175 Anonymous
12th December 2019
Thursday 11:34 pm
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His head is far too shiny.
>> No. 88176 Anonymous
12th December 2019
Thursday 11:37 pm
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Blyth Valley has gone blue, been Labour seat since 1950.
>> No. 88177 Anonymous
12th December 2019
Thursday 11:37 pm
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>>88171
>This is being shown around the globe.
Not sure about that one.
>> No. 88178 Anonymous
12th December 2019
Thursday 11:38 pm
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>>88173

PRECEDENT SET
>> No. 88179 Anonymous
12th December 2019
Thursday 11:39 pm
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Newcastle Central wins the race, and unsurprisingly comes in with a safe result.

Houghton and Sunderland South a close second.

Third is Blyth Valley, which is a former mining seat which has gone blue.
>> No. 88180 Anonymous
12th December 2019
Thursday 11:41 pm
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>>88179

Blyth turning blue all but confirms the accuracy of the exit polls. While they've never been landslide labour, it's certainly a flip.
>> No. 88182 Anonymous
12th December 2019
Thursday 11:47 pm
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I'm picking up majority may be closer to 100 as exit poll conducted in marginals.
>> No. 88185 Anonymous
12th December 2019
Thursday 11:59 pm
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>>88180
>While they've never been landslide labour

1997: 41.8% majority (17,736 votes)
2001: 35.3% majority (12,188 votes)
2005: 23.8% majority (12,188 votes)
2010: 17.3% majority (6,668 votes)
2015: 24.0% majority (9,229 votes)
2017: 18.6% majority (7,915 votes)

It's a former mining town. This should be Labour's bread and butter.
>> No. 88186 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 12:00 am
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>>88185

Grim.
>> No. 88188 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 12:02 am
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>>88186
It normally is grim that far north.
>> No. 88189 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 12:03 am
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>> No. 88190 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 12:05 am
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I like how the election coverage has broken off for news coverage about the election.
>> No. 88191 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 12:06 am
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>>88189
Carries getting laid tonight.
>> No. 88194 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 12:10 am
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For fuck's sake.
>> No. 88195 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 12:15 am
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>>88191
Boris is probably getting yet another kid we won't get to know about.
>> No. 88198 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 12:22 am
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>>88194
I'm not surprised. The "you know you have lived in Wakefield when" group is full of the thickest knuckle dragging cunts ever observed. The one interesting thing is that the Tory candidate for Wakefield is called Imran Afsal-Khan.
>> No. 88202 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 12:32 am
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>>88198
>The one interesting thing is that the Tory candidate for Wakefield is called Imran Afsal-Khan

That's because the original candidate was forced to stand down due to old social media posts about food banks, Mary Creagh and Bradford. I bet he's absolutely kicking himself now.
>> No. 88203 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 12:39 am
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>>88195

On the plus side Dianne Abbott might get thrown out, which means no more polite bitings. You have to go pretty far down the periodic table to find a material denser than her skull. I mean she didn't manage to wear matching shoes today.
>> No. 88205 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 12:43 am
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>>88203
That was a photoshopped picture but well done for falling for it m9
>> No. 88206 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 12:43 am
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>>88122

As long as this lady doesn't lose her seat, i fancy her.

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>> No. 88207 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 12:44 am
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Channel 4 coverage like a funeral.
>> No. 88208 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 12:45 am
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Perhaps telling centrists and Blairites to fuck off from Labour and join the Tories was a really, really bad idea.
>> No. 88209 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 12:46 am
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>>88207
A lot of their "comedic" spin-off bits have been atrocious tonight.
>> No. 88210 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 12:48 am
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MILIBAND LOSES SEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>88203
I'm a troll but you're a cunt.
>> No. 88211 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 12:49 am
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>>88210

You're welcome XD
>> No. 88212 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 12:51 am
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>>88207>>88209
I turned over and then quickly had to change the channel back. What an absolute car crash.
>> No. 88213 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 1:02 am
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PLACE BETS NOW.
>> No. 88214 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 1:02 am
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>>88212
The pre-result show on Sky1 was awful, Russell Howard just made fun of the prospective MPs and then did 2 promo bits for peoples shows/films, it was like a long advert. Don't know what I expected from the lineup of it but I expected more than that.
>> No. 88215 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 1:12 am
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>>88170
I'd like to agree but what would be the point in smearing right after polls have closed?
>> No. 88216 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 1:18 am
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>>88212
Jimmy Carr's on now, C4 coverage is starting to actually be a good election show, does sound like he's setting himself up to run though.
>> No. 88217 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 1:22 am
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>>88215
Laying the groundwork for 2024.
>> No. 88218 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 1:26 am
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>>88217
Doubt Corbz will be leader then, just from the way every labour MP is talking about him, he'll be replaced by either a blairite or a faux socialist who seems cleaner (probably a pro-israel candidate)
>> No. 88219 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 1:30 am
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Workington:

1997: 39.8% majority (19,656 votes)
2001: 25.9% majority (10,850 votes)
2005: 20.4% majority (7,895 votes)
2010: 11.7% majority (4,575 votes)
2015: 12.2% majority (4,686 votes)
2017: 9.4% majority (3,925 votes)

Not as surprising as Blyth, but a seat that has been held by Labour for all but three years (1976 to 1979) since it was created in 1918.

Welp. I'm off to bed.
>> No. 88220 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 1:31 am
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>>88218
It sounds like Pidcock is going to lose her seat, so expect Momentum to back Long-Bailey.
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13th December 2019
Friday 1:31 am
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>> No. 88222 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 2:25 am
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Most people aren't stupid enough to believe the lie that the Tories are going to privatise the NHS, so it's not a very surprising result.

If however the above does apply to you, then please view this gif in lieu of a text reply because I'm off to bed. With a smile on my face, I might add.
>> No. 88223 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 2:27 am
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>>88222
>the lie that the Tories are going to privatise the NHS
I see Dom's propaganda worked on you then.
>> No. 88224 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 2:32 am
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If there's one thing I hate more than a Tory, it's a dickhead centrist Blairite coming out like a smug cunt to pretend this is any indication people want their watered down pish concept of politics, ignoring the absolutely fucking colossal elephant in the room like they have been doing for decades.

People don't. They want GET IIIWW DUN. They want the immigrants out. They want Britain First. And frankly, you're an absolute dullard for thinking people would have voted any more favourably for one of your fucking watered down Nescafe Original robot wankers.

This vindicates what I've been saying for years in that what we genuinely actually need is a socially conservative (read: old fashioned and bigoted) Labour party. You can splash all the cash you want on public services, you could nationalise people's fucking underwear for all they crare, but what the public actually cares about is whether you come off as a bleeding heart snowflake or not.
>> No. 88225 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 2:42 am
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>>88224

People don't want Blairism, which is why they gave Blair a huge majority at three elections. They want Corbynism, which is why Corbyn is on track for Labour's worst election performance since 1924.
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13th December 2019
Friday 2:50 am
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>>88222

>Most people aren't stupid enough to believe the lie that the Tories are going to privatise the NHS

Oh dear me.
>> No. 88227 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 2:53 am
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Really wish Vine would stop saying "reaching deep", it's turning my stomach.
>> No. 88228 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 2:59 am
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>>88225

You're comparing apples to fucking TV remotes though mate.

I guarantee you Blair himself would have lost this election campaigning on half hearted second referendum platform. If people loved Blairism so much why the fuck did Labour lose in 2010?

The public broadly supports Corbyn's nationalisation policies. Polling shows that to be true. The problem is he's a softy who loves poofs and brown folk- And all your Blairite lot do too. They offer the worst of both worlds.
>> No. 88229 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 3:05 am
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>>88228
That's funny. The biggest reason people have given for switching away from Labour has been Corbyn.
>> No. 88230 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 3:11 am
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Updated projection:

CON 357 (MAJ 64)
LAB 201
SNP 55
LD 13
OTH 24
>> No. 88231 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 3:16 am
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>>88229

Every single Conservative gain has been in a pro-leave constituency, you don't think that might have even a bit to do with it?
>> No. 88232 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 3:30 am
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Benn wants to be leader very badly.
>> No. 88233 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 3:33 am
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>>88231
Caroline Flint, who stood up against the party to wholly endorse IIIWW, having voted for the deal under both May and Johnson, has lost her seat.
>> No. 88234 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 3:35 am
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>>88233
Not him, but most people vote for who they want to be PM.
>> No. 88236 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 3:41 am
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>>88233

You're even more deluded than I originally thought if you think the average voter has any clue what their MP has actually done in parliament.

It's this simple mate. The Sun told them to vote Tory because Jez is a member of the IRA and it's the only way IIIWW will happen. The Sun is going to tell them some bullshit about your favourite Blairite too, and it's all going to end up the same.

See you in 2024.
>> No. 88237 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 3:41 am
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>>88234

They shouldn't.
>> No. 88238 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 3:46 am
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Forecast updated again:

CON 365 (MAJ 80)
LAB 196
SNP 52
LD 13
OTH 24
>> No. 88240 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 3:48 am
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RIP Swinson.

>>88237
Don't tell me that.
>> No. 88241 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 3:51 am
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Polls prior to the election showed Labours policies were liked by the public, but they couldn't get behind labour because "He's an anti-semite", "he's a daft militant wog sympathiser", "He's a marxist" most of that is due to the media spin as we've covered earlier in the election run up thread.

IIIWW was an issue and I think a lot of that is Labour trying to appeal to both sides when there were parties offering clearer cut decisions, IIIWW supporters thought Labour policy was too soft, Remainers thought it would lead to IIIWW or there was a chance it would.

I think the biggest issues are:
1) He has a lot of history, a lot of it is good, but the amount of bad has been heavily focused on and exploited against the party a fresh face could be the answer but that brings forth a whole host of other issues.
2) Labour played clean (respectively,) the sheer quantity of disinformation from the conservatives broke the fucking scales, same thing happened in the referendum, lie enough and people will see and believe it and miss the factcheck that follows up.
3) The Labour party weren't proactive enough at shutting issues down, the whole anti-semitism issue could've been countered by explaining that anti-zionism is not equal to anti-semitism and that anti-semitism is no higher within the labour party than it is in the general populace.
4) The internal rifts brought about by fucking blairites.
5) Policies were a threat to establishment, media, big business, rail companies, energy companies, tax avoiders. Clear blowback from them for that.

As (I think) someone previously said in this thread or maybe the other thread, if the voting system was based on "pick which policies you agree with most out of the following" without knowledge of who the party is, similar to the WhoShouldIVoteFor tests, Labour would've walked it. Corbyn is the issue, but not for the reason people think.

I fucking hate the general populace though so fuck 'em all, and fuck you for reading this. Goodnight.
>> No. 88244 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 4:30 am
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>>88241
>because "He's an anti-semite", "he's a daft militant wog sympathiser", "He's a marxist" most of that is due to the media spin
I'm not really sure how you could put that down to "media spin". He is a Marxist and an antisemite. He has expressed sympathies for daft militant wogs, including laying a wreath at the founder of fucking Black September. The party platform was fine, it was the man himself they didn't like.
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13th December 2019
Friday 4:42 am
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>>88244
The idea that supporting and selling weapons to oppressive and murderous regimes is somehow more acceptable than simply expressing sympathy for victims of an oppressive and murderous regime seems like media spin to me.
>> No. 88246 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 4:51 am
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>>88245
... and rubbish like that is why nobody takes you far-left types seriously.
>> No. 88247 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 4:55 am
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>>88246
British arms sales to Saudi Arabia have been ruled unlawful by the court of appeal in a critical judgment that also accused ministers of ignoring whether airstrikes that killed civilians in Yemen broke humanitarian law.

Three judges said that a decision made in secret in 2016 had led them to decide that Boris Johnson, Jeremy Hunt and Liam Fox and other key ministers had illegally signed off on arms exports without properly assessing the risk to civilians.
>> No. 88248 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 5:02 am
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>>88247
OK, and ... is there a point in there somewhere?
>> No. 88249 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 5:04 am
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>>88248
A pretty obvious one, yeah.
>> No. 88250 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 5:08 am
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>>88248

Here we have a perfect illustration about how the tories retain power. People like this decide who they're voting for because of a single issue they feel strongly about, or maybe just the gut feeling that a party is 'their party'. Then whenever they're confronted with facts that might detract from that decision, that make make them wrong in some way, they just ignore them, to the point that they can't even process the information themselves. It's interesting, for sure, but I do wonder if this has always been the case.
>> No. 88251 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 5:13 am
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>>88250
Quite. Such as this lad who says "b-b-but arms sales!" as if the average person on the street cares about such things.
>> No. 88252 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 5:24 am
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>>88251
Why don't they care about it, do you think? What could possibly make them see it as more acceptable than expressing sympathy for someone?
>> No. 88253 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 5:28 am
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Dennis Skinner has lost his seat by a majority of over 5,000. Staggering.
>> No. 88254 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 5:28 am
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>>88252
>Why don't they care about it, do you think?
Because they have more pressing concerns at home, maybe?
>> No. 88255 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 5:30 am
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>>88254
That would also apply to their concerns about the expressed sympathy.
>> No. 88256 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 5:34 am
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>>88255
No, you're right. Nobody should care about wog sympathisers because nobody in this country has ever been killed by one.
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13th December 2019
Friday 5:43 am
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>>88256

You keep saying that while ignoring the point that the other lot were selling the guns to the fucking wogs in the first place.

Is it just that it's easier to process an concept of emotion, like feeling bad for someone who is a bad guy, than it is to actually think about a physical, political action?
>> No. 88258 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 5:45 am
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>>88256
By a sympathiser? Probably not, no.
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13th December 2019
Friday 5:47 am
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>>88257
>Is it just that it's easier to process an concept of emotion, like feeling bad for someone who is a bad guy, than it is to actually think about a physical, political action?

No. It's that it's straight-up whataboutery.
>> No. 88261 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 7:01 am
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>>88256
If there are as many immigrants as you seem to think then yeah a lot of people in this country have lost loved ones to those weapons and a hell of a lot more recently than anything the IRA did.
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13th December 2019
Friday 7:08 am
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Don't blame it on the sunshine
Don't blame it on the moonlight
Don't blame it on the leave vote
Blame it on the Corbyn
>> No. 88263 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 7:15 am
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>>88213
ARE LIZ CAN STILL WIN IT

>>88228
>If people loved Blairism so much why the fuck did Labour lose in 2010?

Brownism had become the dominant faction in 2010 and then we got Red Ed etc.

>>88241
>Polls prior to the election showed Labours policies were liked by the public

Is that from your underground polling, John McDonnell?
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13th December 2019
Friday 7:17 am
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It looks like all the Remain parties, such as the Lib Dems and the Greens, were shedding votes. Wait, that doesn't fit the narrative...
>> No. 88265 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 7:41 am
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>>88264

I thought the narrative was it was all jezzas fault?
>> No. 88267 Anonymous
13th December 2019
Friday 7:58 am
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>>88265
>>88264
Most of the sneering from Tory voters I've seen so far have been about how Labour didn't pledge to get IIIWW done and something something foreigners.
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13th December 2019
Friday 8:00 am
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>>88265
Most of it is but a lot of what I'm reading is blaming it on everything but him, such as Leave voters being too thick to vote Labour.
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