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>> No. 92239 Anonymous
7th February 2021
Sunday 5:33 am
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What do you think will happen in the near future to our world, Britbroes? Say, 20-30 years from now?

I'm scared, Britbroes.

t. American
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>> No. 92241 Anonymous
7th February 2021
Sunday 7:21 am
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>>92239
Anyone who makes it to 2030 will probably not remember what they though life would be like in 2045.
>> No. 92242 Anonymous
7th February 2021
Sunday 7:58 am
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>>92239
Nice threda

t. Bernd
>> No. 92243 Anonymous
7th February 2021
Sunday 10:47 am
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>>92239
Are you trolling me with the superfluous e's or what?

The more salient question would be, what do you think will happen that makes you scared for the future? If you can't articulate it, then it's probably just existential angst.

In which case I advise you to just "turn your brain off, bro".
>> No. 92244 Anonymous
7th February 2021
Sunday 11:59 am
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Everything will be get shitter except for a select group of Chinese and Indian elite, Bezos and Musk.
>> No. 92245 Anonymous
7th February 2021
Sunday 1:00 pm
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Since this is a shite low-effort thread, I'm going to unleash my brainfarts for you all to smell.

>>92244

Capacity for violence is still very much concentrated in the U.S., which has more bases around the world than any other country and unmatched military technologies to pursue its interests.

China and India will absolutely continue to grow and change, but unfortunately we might see more conflict as a result of that unless both submit to the current U.S. hegemony. India is already heading down that path, China not so much.

The tech 'entrepreneur' crowd are eccentrics from elite schools with a disproportionate cultural influence because their job (especially Musk) is to play a media role. Musk sells the idea of his companies over specific products or research. I forget the exact figure, but in a recent year, Tesla matched Toyota's profits despite selling 300,000 cars to Toyota's 11 million, mainly through investment and belief in the cult of Musk.

These figures can get enormously rich in their own right, but the majority of the world's wealth is still concentrated in old areas like energy (petrol), the derivatives of military (i.e. publicly funded) research like aerospace engineering and weapons, finance, and so on. People in these sectors don't get as much attention, but I would argue have far more influence than a Bezos or Musk.

If I had to predict the future, I would say that we're going to see increasing social unrest in Western countries as the U.S. clings to its power through force. We'll see increasingly bizarre and unacceptable justifications for violent foreign policy with ever greater advances in surveillance and weapons technologies. It will also become apparent that we'll pay increasing costs for climate change, but action will only be taken when it starts hitting the bottom line for the most powerful in society -- unless there is tremendous public pressure to do more sooner.

I understand the pandemic has shit everyone up and frightened people, but I have to admit to being disheartened by how people react disproportionately to certain things. Climate change and war (especially an all-out conflict; nuclear weapons still exist) are the twin existential threats of our time, but people are talking about the 'upheaval of their lives' due to the relatively short-term circumstances of the lockdown. Even with horrifying government opportunism and mismanagement, the real effect of COVID-19 on daily life for most people will last a few years, at most.

I don't take the pandemic lightly, but there are pressing issues right now that pose far greater risks to us, but media is frightening people with objectively smaller issues.
>> No. 92246 Anonymous
7th February 2021
Sunday 1:24 pm
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This sort of talk always gets me thinking - have they fucked the dog with the Doomsday Clock? I think we're just going to have a long, painful slide into oblivion but the clock says we're right on the brink because until recently they've been advancing it in whole minute incremements.

It's mad that the thread of global thermonuclear annihilation never really went away but it's just been overwhelmed by all the other shit going on.
>> No. 92247 Anonymous
7th February 2021
Sunday 1:24 pm
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>>92245
>I forget the exact figure, but in a recent year, Tesla matched Toyota's profits despite selling 300,000 cars to Toyota's 11 million, mainly through investment and belief in the cult of Musk.
You forgot the entire fact and substituted nonsense.
>> No. 92248 Anonymous
7th February 2021
Sunday 1:43 pm
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>>92247

I'd be interested to hear the full story, then. And if I have got it wrong, does it fundamentally change what I'm saying about the nature of Musk and his companies?
>> No. 92250 Anonymous
7th February 2021
Sunday 1:47 pm
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>>92248
What you meant to say is that Tesla is the subject of a speculative bubble and its stock market valuation surpassed Toyota's. This is also old news, as Tesla now is, on paper, not just the most valuable car company in the world but worth more than the next ten put together.
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7th February 2021
Sunday 2:04 pm
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>>92247
Tesla is making profit because the EU has implemented fines for car makers according to the CO2 output of the cars they sell, so they're all exploiting loopholes where they pay a fee to Tesla to pool their CO2 output together.
Tesla is making more money from this than from actually selling cars, so they're going to be at a big loss if other manufacturers start to catch up to them.
>> No. 92252 Anonymous
7th February 2021
Sunday 5:17 pm
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>>92243
Why are you so mad, Britbro?
>> No. 92253 Anonymous
7th February 2021
Sunday 6:10 pm
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>>92252
U wot m8?
>> No. 92254 Anonymous
7th February 2021
Sunday 9:22 pm
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>>92253
1776 will commence again
>> No. 92255 Anonymous
7th February 2021
Sunday 9:44 pm
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>>92254
Time travel?
>> No. 92256 Anonymous
7th February 2021
Sunday 11:57 pm
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It'll be the best of times, it'll be the worst of times.

Doing things in space is going to take off in a big way over the 2020s and if we don't get fusion by 2050 then at the very least China has stated they expect to see the first commercially viable space-based solar power plant. We'll be at the point of (nearly) free and limitless renewable energy which changes our entire civilisation and means the problem of carbon capture's energy needs doesn't matter.

Assuming China doesn't collapse internally the PRC will end up dominating the world's international institutions but it'll be counter-balanced by the US and chums. China has no allies outside of some very shit fair weather friends and no coherent ideology to build an alliance around. You might see a limited war on the Western Pacific that the US might lose but on the whole the West will pivot to Asia to the detriment of everywhere else so expect to see more regional powers (minus Russia which is fucked). It'll be fine.

Apparently I'll reach state pension age in the 2050s but we'll see how that fucking goes won't we.

>>92246
>It's mad that the thread of global thermonuclear annihilation never really went away but it's just been overwhelmed by all the other shit going on.

Eh, there are a lot nukes and some work going into making new ones but the majority might not even be functional after all this time. Even presuming Russia has slapped on the ronseal
the current estimate for the 2020s show a continual fall:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_nuclear_weapons_stockpiles_and_nuclear_tests_by_country

China is an interesting one because they never really subscribed to MAD. You don't need thousands to deter attack, just a few hundred to discourage any idea that they can all be taken out in a first strike and a few more in close range of Indian capital just because you can and they can't. A US-China Cold War doesn't look the same as the last one and it doesn't need to as China is still looking to secure a sphere of influence. So in short, we might escape a hot war even if Pentagon war games seem to show that they will be used tactically as soon as things get bogged down:

>> No. 92257 Anonymous
8th February 2021
Monday 1:35 am
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>>92256
>Doing things in space is going to take off in a big way over the 2020s

No it isn't. Screenshot this.
>> No. 92259 Anonymous
8th February 2021
Monday 6:43 am
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>>92257
>Screenshot this.
Why?
>> No. 92260 Anonymous
8th February 2021
Monday 7:14 am
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>>92257

There are more satellite launches scheduled for this year than every previous year combined. We now have four companies offering commercial launch services (SpaceX, Rocket Lab, Firefly and Virgin Orbit) with half a dozen more companies developing launch vehicles.

We're in the early stages of a revolution in space flight, because SpaceX have proved the viability of re-usable launch vehicles and opened the door to unsubsidised commercial orbital projects. As Musk is fond of saying, transatlantic flights would be prohibitively expensive if we just threw away the plane after every trip.

Building and launching a micro-satellite is now a viable final project for a group of determined engineering undergraduates; we're almost at the point where a posh high school could fund a launch with a few bake sales.
>> No. 92261 Anonymous
8th February 2021
Monday 10:34 am
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>>92260
I know it's just being a miserable cunt but I half wish someone would sneak up a few satellites full of ball bearings just to ruin it for everyone else, except perhaps governments who can afford to protect against them.
I was very attached to the idea as Space as this sort of special, serious place where everything you do is in the common heritage of humanity so even nationalist grandstanding has to take on a bit of seriousness. Now that we're marching into the world of commercial launch services, we've got a car around Mars and some e-girl will have her own cubesat long before the entire world gets satellite internet coverage. Of course the whole idea with all that sort of nonsense is that it's funny, it's cool, it got attention for the people who did it, etc - but those arguments also apply to rendering the entirety of LEO unusable with vast swathes of ball bearings.

Maybe I don't really mean it - it's not so much a thought as a feeling.
>> No. 92262 Anonymous
8th February 2021
Monday 11:27 am
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>>92261
>Now that we're marching into the world of commercial launch services

Seems like we're already here as they're now raffling off seats for people who use some shitty service:


I look forward to see how your Home Alone adventure in space progresses.
>> No. 92263 Anonymous
8th February 2021
Monday 1:06 pm
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>>92261
I wholeheartedly agree with this post. It's the unseriousness of it all that I can't stand.
>> No. 92264 Anonymous
8th February 2021
Monday 1:51 pm
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>>92263

I hear by declare this to be the founding of the Britfa space program with its expressed goal of making LEO unusable.


I believe our inagural mission should be the deployment of a 10cm3 cubesat full of ball bearings. Estimated cost for deployment is currently around 100k but that price should come down over the next few years.
>> No. 92267 Anonymous
8th February 2021
Monday 3:53 pm
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>>92264
Currently putting on lottery tickets as we speak. If we all sign up for lottoland syndicates I think we have a good chance.
>> No. 92268 Anonymous
8th February 2021
Monday 4:23 pm
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>>92267
It's a shame the attack that worked in Ireland doesn't work here, especially not since our lotto grew some balls a few years ago.
>> No. 92269 Anonymous
8th February 2021
Monday 6:57 pm
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>>92264
Just hack some old satellites and have them smash into each-other for the cost of an antenna. It's not rocket science.

The real question is whether we take out Virgin Galactic or laugh at them and everyone who has bought tickets for not actually going to space.
>> No. 92271 Anonymous
9th February 2021
Tuesday 12:16 pm
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>>92269

>just
>> No. 92272 Anonymous
9th February 2021
Tuesday 1:48 pm
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Does anyone have any positive predictions for the next ten to twenty years? It honestly feels like it'll be time for the exit bag in a short while.
>> No. 92273 Anonymous
9th February 2021
Tuesday 1:58 pm
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>>92272
The Tories might get voted out by 2034.
>> No. 92274 Anonymous
9th February 2021
Tuesday 2:08 pm
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>>92271

There are hundreds of archaic satellites in orbit based on decades-old technology, most of which have little or no encryption protecting their control signals. Non-state actors have taken control of satellites by hacking on at least six occasions. It really wouldn't be a big ask for a small team of amateur radio enthusiasts given the level of expertise in that community - amateur radio equipment is currently flying on over a hundred satellites, making a contact via satellite is a fun project for someone who has just got their license and serious microwave operators are routinely making contacts by bouncing signals off the moon.

I normally hate "they should just" arguments because most things are vastly more complicated than they seem at first glance, but teenage hobbyists are working on stuff that's much more sophisticated than '80s satellite technology. Until we de-orbit a bunch of old satellites that weren't necessarily designed to be de-orbited, the only thing keeping near space habitable is the goodwill of nerds.

https://www.defenseone.com/technology/2019/09/nsa-studying-satellite-hacking/160009/
>> No. 92275 Anonymous
9th February 2021
Tuesday 2:10 pm
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>>92273

That means nothing without viable opposition.
>> No. 92276 Anonymous
9th February 2021
Tuesday 2:11 pm
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>>92275
By 2034 we'll have had the second coming of Miliband.
>> No. 92277 Anonymous
9th February 2021
Tuesday 2:18 pm
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>>92272

We're definitely going to get on top of COVID within the next couple of years, so we should be enjoying crisp refreshing pints in a sunny beer garden by 2023 at the latest. Massive advances in genomics and deep learning will lead to an unprecedented boom in medical technology. Affordable VR headsets with near-perfect visual clarity are in the pipeline and should become mainstream within a few years. When the Chinese finally take over the world, at least we'll have a competent government. WE'RE GOING TO MARS! Weed is inevitably going to get legalised because we desperately need the tax revenues. BoJo is going to die of mega-chlamydia from all the unprotected knobbing.
>> No. 92278 Anonymous
10th February 2021
Wednesday 1:54 am
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>>92277

That really hasn't convinced me not to kill myself.
>> No. 92279 Anonymous
10th February 2021
Wednesday 2:19 am
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>>92277
>unprecedented boom in medical technology

I'm still half-hoping that we get biological immortality in our lifetimes. Even if it takes 200 years.
I'll settle for a few decades being young again before dronelad drops the ISS on me in a poorly executed plot to close Gatwick.
>> No. 92280 Anonymous
11th February 2021
Thursday 9:27 pm
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>>92279
A more likely scenario is kids bombing their school from orbit using a hacked satellite because their homework was late.
>> No. 92281 Anonymous
11th February 2021
Thursday 10:24 pm
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>>92274

Interestingly, someone hacked (a system on) the ISS using AX.25 and a fucking bash command injection bug and posted it on twitter so I'm fairly sure that properly weaponised autism is fully capable of hijacking a satellite or two.

>>92280
This is exactly why I should have got a commodore amiga instead of a SNES when I was nine.
>> No. 92570 Anonymous
21st March 2021
Sunday 1:03 pm
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>>92272
Life, in general, will get broadly nicer. Crime rates will go down, incomes will go up, diseases will be cured and life expectancy will increase. The only downside is the utter moral outrage against the excesses of the elites will also need to increase, because they're only going to wreck shit harder. And most people won't care, which will be infuriating, same as it is now.

Potentially, possibly, we might see the big technology FAANG companies take a bumming. I'd like to see that happen, and Joe Biden has said he wants to do it. The companies will also fight extremely hard to stop this from happening, so it could be seriously exciting, when Google starts telling you Joe Biden is a paedo and Amazon refuses to deliver to Democratic states. But that's a real best-case scenario; things that awesome tend not to happen.
>> No. 92571 Anonymous
21st March 2021
Sunday 1:06 pm
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>>92274
Do those satellites still have functioning engines? Anyone can grab the steering wheel on an old satellite whenever they want, and it won't do anything if they can't actually steer it. I would imagine those satellites are just drifting aimlessly.
>> No. 92572 Anonymous
21st March 2021
Sunday 1:18 pm
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>>92571
A lot of them will have small amounts of fuel left which is kept there for position changes and such and they're designed to stay on standby for a very long time. It wont do you much good though, if you were dead set on causing destruction you could probably steer a few old satellites to cross paths with others that'd give you maybe a 0.001% chance of a collision in the next decade if no one spotted it and moved the other satellites out of the way. Space is just that big.

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