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>> No. 94514 Anonymous
13th September 2021
Monday 6:55 pm
94514 Norway Election 2021
This woman is going to stay PM of Norway tonight as part of a strong and stable government. It's going to stop me losing a significant amount of money on the Norwegian oil and gas industry.

>Norwegians will vote on Sept. 12-13 to pick a parliament and government for the next four years, with opinion polls showing the centre-left opposition is poised to win power after eight years of Conservative-led rule. Exit polls and forecasts based on early votes will be published on Monday at 1900 GMT, and most ballots will be counted within three to four hours.

>Petroleum policy presents perhaps the biggest challenge for the next prime minister, and the future of Norway's largest industry has been front and centre of the campaign. Citing concerns over climate change, several small parties - the Socialist Left, the Liberals, the Greens and the Reds - seek to halt oil and gas exploration, which brings in almost half the country's export revenues.

>On the right, the Conservatives are dependent on the eco-friendly Liberals, who aim to halt exploration for any new reserves. Solberg is unlikely to accept that goal if she wins, but must find ways to satisfy her party's junior partner. If Labour wins, it faces a similar demand from the Socialist Left to stop drilling for new reserves. But Stoere's own party is wary of the job losses that could follow, and its other likely partner, the Centre Party, favours continued drilling.

>The strongest anti-oil stance is taken by the Green Party, which wants to immediately halt exploration and to end all oil and gas output in Norway by 2035. Stoere says he will reject the Greens' attempt at setting ultimatums.

I'm holding you personally responsible for whatever happens, Ecolad.
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>> No. 94515 Anonymous
13th September 2021
Monday 7:37 pm
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Thanks to having a national oil company backed by the sovereign wealth fund, Norway actually has a chance to make a success of going net zero.
Unlike the UK, where the big oil companies have gradually been pawning their UK assets off to small shell companies which are setting themselves up to offshore all the cash and then declare bankruptcy and run with the money the instant the government moves to restrict oil production and exploration.
>> No. 94516 Anonymous
13th September 2021
Monday 8:14 pm
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>Thanks to having a national oil company backed by the sovereign wealth fund, Norway actually has a chance to make a success of going net zero.

Not going to happen. Norway has a serious case of Dutch disease with its sovereign wealth fund now being increasingly tapped to fund spending (now about a quarter of the budget) this withdrawal has been beyond oil and gas revenues since 2016 but largely hidden by the financial markets. Norway will struggle on net zero because outside of Oil and Gas it doesn't really have an economy aside from Swedes working in hospitality.

Being a trustafarian is grand at the moment but it's now starting to creep in to Norwegian politics that the country is uniquely vulnerable to difficult market conditions that would eat away at its wealth. The fact that the fund is becoming increasingly politicised means that it could quickly suffer a hard knock and there's less oil in the ground left than the fund is worth. The two major parties solution to this is, of course, using yet more money to fund tax cuts proving once again that democracy just doesn't work.
>> No. 94517 Anonymous
13th September 2021
Monday 8:30 pm
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The UK is pretty unique in lighting up the A-roads. That gives us plenty of lamp posts to... install carrion bird feeders.
>> No. 94518 Anonymous
13th September 2021
Monday 8:39 pm
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>This woman is going to stay PM of Norway

But will it be fucking excellent?

I like the look of her - gode nyheter!
>> No. 94519 Anonymous
13th September 2021
Monday 9:17 pm
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>The left-wing opposition in Norway has won the country's general election, according to projections released as polls closed at 2100 CET on Monday.

>Early results indicate the end of the centre-right government's eight-year rule under Prime Minister Erna Solberg, following a campaign dominated by the future of the oil industry. If the results are accurate, she looks set to be ousted by a left-wing coalition headed by Jonas Gahr Støre, a millionaire ally of former prime minister and now NATO secretary-general Jens Stoltenberg.

>The projections suggest that the five opposition parties should take 104 of the 169 seats in the Storting, the Norwegian parliament, enough to oust Solberg's conservative coalition. With 88 seats at the moment, Støre's Labour Party could even win an absolute majority with his allies from the Socialist Left and Centre Party, without needing the help of the Communists and the Greens.

>Solberg's conservatives and the Labour opposition both advocate for a gradual move away from the fossil fuels that continue to underpin the economy.

Maybe our own Labour should try their luck with a millionaire leader?
>> No. 94520 Anonymous
13th September 2021
Monday 10:33 pm
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Starmer is a millionaire, and so is Corbyn.
>> No. 94521 Anonymous
13th September 2021
Monday 10:35 pm
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Bloody champagne socialists.
>> No. 94522 Anonymous
13th September 2021
Monday 11:11 pm
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Fucks sake. I naively thought most politicians would have wealth in the hundreds of thousands unless they were actively crooked or a Rees-Mogg. You' know, the kind of career you get into where even if you have a side gig most of the money goes towards party dinners.

I'm going to withdraw from society, the game is rigged.
>> No. 94523 Anonymous
13th September 2021
Monday 11:30 pm
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Corbyn is a posho, but Starmer is just a working-class lad done good. "Millionaire" doesn't mean what it used to - someone who owns a two-bed flat in Zone 2 and has a half-decent pension is comfortably a millionaire.

We've reached a level of inequality where part of the population regards a million pounds in assets as an unattainable fortune, while another part regards it as the bare minimum you need for a comfortable retirement.
>> No. 94524 Anonymous
14th September 2021
Tuesday 12:04 am
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That's grand, who do we kill?
>> No. 94525 Anonymous
14th September 2021
Tuesday 7:17 am
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Maybe it's just lower-middle-class prejudice but I tend to find working class people who get rich more annoying than poshos.
Perhaps because they feed into the case for believing "aspiration" is the path to wealth while largely being a statistical anomaly, perhaps because they often believe that they show "anyone can do it", perhaps because they're more likely to fight against any change in their status because they've a much stronger feeling they've earned what they've got. Perhaps because they often wind up seeming off since they're no longer comfortably in any social grouping, too rich to really be working class but unable to properly play the upper-middle class role. Or perhaps it's just the much maligned leveling mechanism, where "lower middle class" is a fake social category and it's just working-class tall poppy syndrome in new clothes.

I'm not against admitting it if it's the latter. It's popular to hate leveling mechanisms in these days of "aspiration" worship, but I don't mind them. It's one thing to talk about the ways people are discouraged from putting themselves forward in the first place, but the one thing I really can't stand is already-successful people whingeing about how you don't celebrate their success now that they have it. Success is surely something that should be its own reward done for its own sake, if you want applause then join a theatre troupe.
>> No. 94526 Anonymous
14th September 2021
Tuesday 8:53 am
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I'm a working class person who has done well for themselves, aside from mentioning it here sometimes for the sake of arguments about the class war, I try to downplay it as much as I can. That's probably just as annoying to you, or someone else out there, but there's not much I can do, really, aside from go back to where I belong.

For what it's worth I've not suddenly become a tory because of my tax bracket, nor do I feel like I'd embarrass myself by using the wrong soup fork at the bosses dinner party. Maybe it's different up here in the north, but I very much just identify, and fit in as a working class bloke who got a nice job. Since when has class been about money, anyway?
>> No. 94527 Anonymous
14th September 2021
Tuesday 9:52 am
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I'm another working class lad that's done alright. Dad is still working as a labourer into his sixties, and I've managed to find a management level job in a very profitable sector which I've posted about before.

I get angry with the "aspirational" narrative as well, because not only does it dismiss the weird, horrible, self-destructive sacrifices I've had to take on to reach this place, but as you say, it also misses the fact that there are many more people just like me who put in just as much as (if not more) effort and still don't succeed for reasons totally beyond their control.

I'm still on the path upward, which perversely seems to be getting easier as I climb higher (i.e. the exact opposite to the way everyone talks about it), but given the choice, I'd much prefer to see greater equality in the world rather than greater personal wealth for myself before I die.
>> No. 94528 Anonymous
14th September 2021
Tuesday 10:54 am
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Another working-class done-good statistical anomaly millionaire reporting in. Posho's with inherited wealth are much more annoying.
>> No. 94529 Anonymous
14th September 2021
Tuesday 11:33 am
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Why does .gs have so many millionaires?
>> No. 94530 Anonymous
14th September 2021
Tuesday 11:53 am
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Hang about with us ladm9, this time next year you'll be rolling in it.
>> No. 94531 Anonymous
14th September 2021
Tuesday 12:18 pm
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I think I'm already an on-paper millionaire, I'm not sure.
>> No. 94532 Anonymous
14th September 2021
Tuesday 12:19 pm
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I'm not a millionaire, I've just busted my arse into a high salary position for a (somewhat) young man.
>> No. 94533 Anonymous
14th September 2021
Tuesday 12:32 pm
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I guess you lot are far removed from reality as well. I only have a net worth of £19k.
>> No. 94534 Anonymous
14th September 2021
Tuesday 12:45 pm
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A) People lie on the internet.
B) It's those fucking tech nerds with their high paying tech nerd jobs.
>> No. 94535 Anonymous
14th September 2021
Tuesday 1:25 pm
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That's another thing, despite having a high salary, I've only had it for a very short time and also pay a fairly high rent. My net worth is maybe 6k, 12k if you count pension contributions. I'd need a solid five years working in this job just to be comfortable, savings wise.
>> No. 94536 Anonymous
14th September 2021
Tuesday 2:38 pm
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Just do what I'm doing and marry into a rich family.
>> No. 94537 Anonymous
14th September 2021
Tuesday 3:31 pm
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Does she have a sister or fairly effete brother, Rishi?

I have a low salary but a low quality of life. I have over £35,000 in total savings, probably, and it's still not enough to buy a house because I am subhuman to mortgage lenders. I come from posh parents but that isn't cool so I never brag about muh self-made heroics because I don't have any. I hate you all. You say you worked hard, but you have to work hard in the right direction. You can sweep a street harder than anyone in history and never break 20 grand a year because it's the wrong kind of work.
>> No. 94538 Anonymous
14th September 2021
Tuesday 3:56 pm
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I wouldn't say I worked hard, I was just very good at working. I've fallen into two careers mostly accidentally and I just happened to be really good at the first one, which then taught me to be good at the second. In my mind, that's just as much a lucky break as being born into money, the only extra requirement is sticktuitiveness.
>> No. 94539 Anonymous
14th September 2021
Tuesday 4:36 pm
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>I have a low salary but a low quality of life.

I'm guessing you meant to say that you have a high quality of life here, otherwise I can't make much sense of your post.
>> No. 94540 Anonymous
14th September 2021
Tuesday 5:11 pm
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Obviously compared to your average 12-year-old Afghan girl right now, I'm absolutely crushing it. But my life has taken a hopefully temporary turn for the /emo/ and I was comparing myself to how I assume most of you live.
>> No. 94541 Anonymous
14th September 2021
Tuesday 5:16 pm
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Look on the bright side, lad. When your posho parents snuff it you'll be rich.
>> No. 94542 Anonymous
14th September 2021
Tuesday 5:37 pm
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You're not doing well, lad. I wouldn't call myself as doing well because I went to public sector in London instead of earning 3-4x times the money in the private sector, but I still have about 30k net worth.

How did you manage to not save buckets of money when it was literally illegal to go outside?

>the only extra requirement is sticktuitiveness.

I think this is something sorely underrated in our society. I wouldn't say I'm particularly bright, I'm just a weirdo who has a bit of self-discipline but that discipline has made a world of difference compared to my peers.
>> No. 94543 Anonymous
14th September 2021
Tuesday 6:17 pm
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>How did you manage to not save buckets of money when it was literally illegal to go outside?

I only landed this job in January, so virtually the entire 6k I mention has come from that.

Before that, I was buried in an overdraft and small loan taken to pay for paying for accommodation while studying for a postgraduate qualification in another country. Prior to that again, I was an NHSlad on a relatively mediocre payband, saving for the said move.

Basically, I've doubled down on my career and future earnings over current savings at every point of my young adult life, and I also didn't get any transfer of wealth from my parents (not implying you did, but it's a factor here). The result is that I've doubled my salary twice and have set myself up well for the future, but should probably stick around and just earn cash for the time being.
>> No. 94545 Anonymous
14th September 2021
Tuesday 7:09 pm
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>How did you manage to not save buckets of money when it was literally illegal to go outside?

Big telly.

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