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>> | No. 5907
5907
I was sure we had a wristwatch thread, but maybe the topic just came up elsewhere. A relative of mine has just offered to get me a watch for Chrimbo, with a budget of up to 120 quid-ish. I'm in over my head so I thought I'd ask for some advice. I've narrowed down my options but only slightly. |
>> | No. 5908
5908
That guy's wrist relative to his hand is unnervingly thin. |
>> | No. 5909
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>A relative of mine has just offered to get me a watch for Chrimbo, with a budget of up to 120 quid-ish. |
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>>5908 |
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4350c6f8-ec55-11e6-9069-ac61461598d0.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >First option is a fitness watch |
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>>5910 |
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skagen.png ![]() ![]() ![]() >>5909 |
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brn.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() https://www.amazon.co.uk/Braun-Analogue-Stainless-Bracelet-BN0211BKMHG/dp/B01GJ3BH5I/ref=sr_1_2?s=watch&ie=UTF8&qid=1544914851&sr=1-2 |
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>>5914 |
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bering.png ![]() ![]() ![]() I like this one because it shows the date, but unlike most with this feature is only 5mm thick. The Skagen above is 8mm thick and 40mm in diameter - I don't have huge wrists so it might end up looking silly. It's impossible to tell online sadly. It's suitably minimalist, I like the sapphire background and it's also the cheapest, which is a factor for me at least. |
>> | No. 5917
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skagen2.png ![]() ![]() ![]() Whereas this Skagen is exactly the style I want, but lacks a date option and doesn't have luminescent hands. It's a very, very nice watch though. And only 5mm thick, which suits me since I dislike chunky watches. |
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>>5917 |
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>>5918 |
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samsung-gear-fit-2-review-aa-25-of-26-840x473.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>5920 |
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>>5922 |
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Thanks for the advice everyone, in the end I settled for the Bering. |
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>>5924 |
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My wrists are barely over 5.5" round. |
>> | No. 5927
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I literally have a thicker cock than my wrists. That's not bragging, I just have pipe cleaners instead of arms. |
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>>5927 |
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>>5927>>5928 |
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>>5925 |
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>>5931 Exercise won't make your bones bigger. |
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>>5933 |
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It's not a watch, but my mum gave me the early Christmas gift of a really thick, silver, bracelet and I have no idea why. It makes my wrist look tiny and I have no idea why she thought I'd like it, I think this is the year when I tell her "socks and pants are the only clothes you can buy me". Last year she got me a burgundy graphic t-shirt of a bird with the words "KAW!" over it. |
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Hmm, £175 for new lights, a (probably null) service and pressure test. Probably worth it to keep old faithful running - I like the battle-scarred look along with the pristine sapphire. |
>> | No. 5941
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SKT1202J_6.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() Skagen have a number of watches in their sale, including refurbished hybrid smartwatches from £45. |
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>>5941 |
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watchwatch.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>5941 |
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>>5941 |
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>> | No. 5946
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Hmm, strangely resistible. I really ought to be the target market for smart watches, but I think I'll stick to clockwork and ignoring emails. |
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>>5943 |
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WRW_01-1746-101_S_PO.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() Bumping this thread because I am in need of a watch, but I haven't worn one in almost twenty years so I don't really know where to start. My budget is up to £150 but I'd probably be happy with something half that price. I'm looking for something simple and respectable looking rather than flashy style over substance, with a preference towards a leather strap and a white face. |
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SKW6374_main.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6370 |
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maxresdefault.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() What do you lads think of the Casio duro watch? It's about £50 on Amazon but it'd have to be imported from America as it isn't sold here. My main concern is it looks massive. |
>> | No. 6379
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>>6378 here again. |
>> | No. 6420
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There's a perfectly good thread for you watch |
>> | No. 6423
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You know what, I think I will go for a Duro. Which colour? I assume it'd be fairly easy to mod if I wanted a different colour bezel. |
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>>6423 |
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Got a lovely solar powered and another kinetic Seiko for xmas. |
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I've ordered a chinese tourbillion, I'm quite excited for it as it's a little bit special despite being rather cheap. |
>> | No. 6427
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103-V0-A-Perfectly-Useless-Afternoon_menu_1_800x[1.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6425 |
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10-D1_The-Accurate-menu_4ff3afed-dcea-49a0-934e-87.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6427 |
>> | No. 6429
6429
cb5000-50l.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() I bought a Citizen Promaster Sky CB5000-50L watch in November. It ticked all the boxes for me, although I'd never spent over 300 quid on a wristwatch. It just seemed like an outrageous amount, when even a £50 or £100 watch can do the job very accurately. But I absolutely love my new watch and haven't looked back. |
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>>6429 |
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26c53abc655a60b96c1cc87370fb66f3.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6429 |
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>>6431 |
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You can pick up a Rolex replica that'd be indistinguishable to the majority of people for about £300 to £400, but I don't really see the point. |
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>>6432 |
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beanie-baby-imgur.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6439 |
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>>6439 |
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I shouldn't have looked at replicas. I'm now having to talk myself out of spending ~£250 on a Seamaster. |
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>>6450 |
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By the way the real sign you've made it isn't a Rolex, it's how many ovens you have in your kitchen. Two is getting into top tax bracket, three or more is real money. |
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May I recommend this excellent article from 2009 about differences between working class and middle class life in Liverpool. |
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white-girl-problems.png ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6466 |
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81ibKwfKXDL._AC_UY550_.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() Got one of these today as a present for someone - titanium and kinetic, very lightweight, great for 200 notes. |
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81VxDsa1kgL._AC_UX679_.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6482 |
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>>6482 |
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>>6483 |
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C-04-Blue-on-Sample-leather-perf-Sun.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6486 |
>> | No. 6489
6489
For a while I've been interested in getting a G Gerlach watch which is a Polish brand, I think they've got a bit more character than a lot of the Swiss and Japanese watches available right now, although their website can be a bit clunky. |
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>>6489 |
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91hKBaImkUL.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() This is a Vostok Amphibia - they're Russian and very cheap (under £100). |
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dsc07182_1500-5519.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6491 |
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maxresdefault.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6492 |
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amphibia2.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6491 |
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product-image-930488281_720x.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() Love the look of these too and they're quite reasonably priced. |
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>>6499 |
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80028_fab86b19-fab9-421a-8ee9-a0179a7c2de1_2048x.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6498 |
>> | No. 6504
6504
edifice-EFM-100-omgn-2012-01.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() I'd quite like a Casio EFM-100, but they're an older model so they're not easy to find on sale. |
>> | No. 6505
6505
Annotation 2022-02-10 225338.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() I've started to be annoyed at how inaccurate my automatic watches are. My most accurate one is still about 3 seconds a day fast, which doesn't sound like much, but when I'm at work and trying to time stuff against GPS controlled chronometers, it's beginning to grate on me - I still love a mechanical movement for the engineering feat they are, but at work, I'm constantly reminded of their inaccuracies. |
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Annotation 2022-02-10 230112.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6505 |
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0zcqtjkuv7t31.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6505 |
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casio.png ![]() ![]() ![]() Casio Unisex Black Resin Strap Watch. £7.99 at Argos. |
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Untitled.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6508 |
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tissot-visodate-automatic-white-dial-men_s-watch-t.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6509 |
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Casio_F-91w-feature-1024x678.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6508 |
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eng_pl_Lorus-RH949LX9-Mens-Watch-2477_2.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6508 |
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Timex-T2N649-Weekender-Analog-Canvas-Strap-Watch_0.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6510 |
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cb0010-88l.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6505 |
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>>6514 |
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b3a91ecda100bb3205a142e3086b10a9.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6516 |
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107b970fcaba5642-600x338.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6517 |
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88-P7_88-P7_Promise_of_Happiness_flat_1336x1524[1].jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6427 |
>> | No. 6520
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H13063b26cabd42578d3803da025e679fA.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() I don't want an Apple Watch because I can't stand the idea of having something that I can't wear all day/night without charging every day (or week). When they get it to a month or so, I might bite. |
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>>6520 |
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256121_360_attachment.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6429 |
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>>6522 |
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zloty.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6489 |
>> | No. 6530
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Think it's worth buying a broken watch and trying to get it repaired? For example: |
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>>6530 |
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f1usiis45ej81.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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>>6533 |
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SE-D300M-Header-immersive-small_2.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6536 |
>> | No. 6538
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Do you watchlads have any recommendations for good books on the topic? I'm starting to get fairly enthusiastic about my small-but-growing collection, and a fairly developed idea of my tastes, but it would be nice to have some context. |
>> | No. 6539
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I made it about a minute in before giving up. YouTube reviewers are weird. |
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>>6539 |
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ressence_type_3_1.png ![]() ![]() ![]() Talking of value - this watch is nice, but I wouldn't pay 32 grand for it. |
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wsh.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6546 |
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Screenshot_2022-03-23-01-27-46-613_slide.watchFren.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6549 |
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230322_Omegaswatch_hp.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() Lots of scalpers about and kerfuffles breaking out for the launch of the Swatch and Omega collaboration, but I'm fairly certain it's not a limited issue and they'll be launching online next week. |
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>>6560 |
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FOl8teNXsAEPAly.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6561 |
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>>6562 |
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3dhpail9jjp81.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6563 |
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LCzednnd1590737745.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6370 |
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S5.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6566>>6567 |
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>>6568 |
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single_card_variation_2_Mercury_670x670.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() So what do you two think of the new Moon Swatch then? |
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>>6576 |
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>>6577 |
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>>6578 |
>> | No. 6580
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How are you lot at watch, erm, troubleshooting? Probably not watch repair; I doubt I'll do it myself. I have a Sekonda watch which I got for Christmas but it probably cost around £50-£70, and it keeps running slow or stopping. However, I replaced the battery a couple of months ago. Could there be something else wrong with it? I have never had another watch act like the battery's going flat after such a short time. |
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>>6578 |
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plate_carrier.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6587 |
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>>6587 |
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>>6589 |
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FQ3uL-jXwAAKr7H.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() I've got an email from Christopher Ward about their latest collection. Do they change their logo almost every year? They can't seem to make their minds up. |
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>>6599>>6598 |
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14230-3.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6600 |
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>>6600 |
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Christopher-Ward-new-logo.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6603 |
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maxresdefault.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() If the leaks are to be believed, Seiko are launching GMT versions of the 5 Sports watches later this year. |
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fucksake.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() The Mrs is lusting after a ladies Yachtmaster for just over 4 grand, with box & papers. |
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>>6606 |
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DSC01147-Edited-7.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6606 |
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mine.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6608 |
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BlueandWhiteSmall.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6609 |
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>>6606 |
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Can you lads recommend a suggest and relatively inexpensive watch maintenance kit? It's more for changing straps and removing links than anything. |
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>>6612 |
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>>6612 |
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_3D_2C38W-C_3CW7S4T_2C_23_28R-S8T_2CC8R-_27-Q_3CS1.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() The lad at the till at Asda the other day was wearing pic related Boss chronograph. |
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brand_new_and__authentic_casio_1592287822_c26b2e07.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6615 |
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>>6616 |
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I am a complete watch noob and after browsing the Citizen website I've found this, which I love the look of. Is it any good? |
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>>6620 |
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>>6620 |
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Do you reckon Discovery Japan is legit? There's a few watches on there I've got my eye on. |
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>>6628 |
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What's the finacial incentive to collect watches? Rarity and resale to enthusiasts? Besides fine craftmanship I can't tell what's actually valuable about them. |
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>>6630 |
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>>6628 |
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sbpy159-b.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6632 |
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If I could commission a couple of watches with a fat Lopunny on them I could bilk you pair for tens, if not dozens, of pounds. |
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>>6633 |
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>>6634 |
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Watch kit came today so I could finally start playing around with my Seiko 5. |
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Got an email from Dan Henry to say their latest watch, the 1945, will be launching 5pm on Thursday. |
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>>6638 |
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>>6639 |
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The more I watch videos on youtube by watch dealers and self-proclaimed experts and aficionados, the more I wonder what the real appeal of mechanical watches is to those who prefer them over quartz. |
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T026_420_17_281_02[1].jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() My last watch was a Casio F-91W. I've gone through at least three of them. Real good value for money. I got a Tissot Sea Touch for my 18th many moons ago, but it needs a battery change and a new strap (original strap was too big for my weedy wrists so had to be altered, but now my current grown man wrist is too beefy). I imagine the cost of new battery and new strap would be much higher than using a series of Casios. |
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>>6657 |
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Garmin-D2-Air-Pilots.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6663 |
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9580bf9a-eeeb-49ba-885d-eebbbed366d2.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() The new Dan Henry watches are hideous. |
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s-l1600.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() Bought the cheapest watch I could find to stick on me bike. Not bad at all for £4.76. I might even start wearing it if I develop a penchant for jewellery. |
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Annotation 2022-05-13 204211.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() >>6669 |
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cw.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() Christopher Ward are starting to stock older models with the newer logo. |
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