>>5750
Is there no middle ground between graduate jobs and Curry's?

>>5751
Yeah, photocopying.

Well, I had the same problem and I solved it by begging for money from my dad.

>>5750

My mates sister got Masters funded by attending a dinner with some philanthropic entrepreneurial types and getting sponsored. I imagine it depends heavily on your field of study, but I would suggest contacting student services for advice.

I'll ask and get back to you, at least.

>>5750
Use a crowdfunding site. Throw in a sob story and pictures of sad kittens. Guaranteed £100k in a month.

>>5754
"A dinner", eh.

>>5754
Such a shame OP doesn't have a fanny like your mate.

>>5757

She was the only girl there from her Uni, as she was studying physics. It was her and 5 blokes from her year and like 50 other students from other Unis who were mostly guys.

What on earth inspired that bile? These opportunities are there for everyone who qualifies, and she was top of her year so why wouldn't she be invited when her work more than merited the invitation? Christ, I thought the MRAs on here were trolls.

>>5758
What is an MRA?

>>5759
(male rights activist)
It's the name misandrists refer to male feminists who champion sexual equality from a male presoective, to try make it not be acknowledged as feminism, because they don't believe men could have a hard time about anything anything ever. You'll notice how the poster has used the term when what they mean is misogynist, because that association discredits male issues.

>>5758
>Christ!
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You know repetitive use of the same written clichés is a symptom of being on the autistic spectrum, hopefully.

>>5761

Jesus Wept, ur a nob.

>>5760

The implication I was responding to was that she was privileged because she was a women and not because she was a gifted scientist.

That is the kind of thing MRAs say, in the same way Militant feminists assert bat shit insane stuff that isn't true. If you were simply being misogynist, then you would have implied she fucked her way to Master funding or something like that rather than implying that she got it because she is the proud owner of a vagina.

You've still not explained where that bile came from, mores to the point, but deflecting the heat off yourself is easier than justifying being a cunt though, I suppose.

>>5763

I'm not who you were originally talking to I was just pointing out your own prejudices, in calling them a MRA. Now apparently I'm a cunt. I didn't say their behaviour was right that's why I called it misogyny, I was pointing out the error in your reasoning, and the discrediting of a perfectly respectable, that 'men's view needs respect and representation like women's'. You seem to have an under siege mentality, its not a likable quality, if you treat people like an enemy they will behave like one in response. It will lose you friends.

MRA are as a general rule not mad bogey men. Issues like paternity rights and men's health and well-being should have a place in society, with out the people who care about them being a punch line and demonised.

>>5763
>>5764
Fuck off.

>>5764
>Now apparently I'm a cunt.
You should know by now that we're all cunts here.

>>5763
You honestly believed she was chosen ahead of a hundred men because she is gifted? You don't believe there is some sort of agenda to gift the keys to male dominated fields to proud owners of vaginas?

Face it, she got in after having a "dinner", not because she is smart, but she owns a pair of nice tits and a nice, warm pussy.

>>5767
I don't think you have nearly enough facts to be speculating on the niceness of either her tits or her vagina. They could be horrible and damp for all you know.

>>5768
No him, but presumably if her tits and vagina weren't at least in the top quartile of niceness she wouldn't have got the gig.

>>5769

I speculate that they are perky, and look quite nice in a thin black cotton jumper.

>>5767
So she definitely banged them all to get in?

>>5771
Perhaps. Or maybe she got a "sugar daddy" for, you know, having a pair of tits and a twat.

Aware of the risk of getting the thread back on track:

To be honest m7 it is a bugger. I managed it by running my own business through my post-grad, and being able to keep my hours down to at most 20-30 a week. Depending on your field of study I know a fair few people who managed to get reasonably well remunerated jobs at NGOs and such while doing their studies. All in London though...

>>5772

How do you explain the 90% male guest list? Or the fact it is common practise for companies to sponsor prospective employees to do a Masters if they like the candidate/think they are the best fit for the job?

You're acting like this is some kind of secret society of businessmen grooming STEM women for sex in exchange for Masters degrees.

>>5767
>>5774
Actually, promoting women in science is very high on the agenda of a lot of research and education councils at the minute. There's a lot of work going into making sure not all scientists are perceived as Tim Hunt dressed in bowling shirts covered in comic book pinups. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of these corporate sponsors had been told before they went to the dinner to specifically look for women to support just for the good grace with funding bodies and universities.

>>5775

Right. Thing is the best post-grad STEMs I know are all female. I don't really want this shitfest to continue, but seriously, if only 10% were male then this is old boy network shit, as if it didn't need pointing out.

Are you aware, that to pick an anecdotal example, the University of Nijmeigen has a post-doc class 55% female to 45% male. Having been offered the idea of a "best female Astrophysicist" award the mainly male were told to fuck off and judge people on their actual work.

Oh God, what have I done? I blame booze...

>>5775

With things like that, everyone who attends the meal/event/whatever gets sponsored. The fact you've been invited is your letter of acceptance, the event is a formality and a chance for your possible future employer to get to know you. That only ~10% of them were female in the example we are discussing is because only ~10% of the women on the courses these people were looking to hire from made the grade.

I know this because It's how I got the funding to do an Msci in genetics and all you have to do is apply and if your grades are good enough and your application gets through vetting then literally anyone who studies hard can make it. Whether they are pressured into choosing more women or not now is a valid point of conversation, but we don't know how long ago this happened or the context of her acceptance other than "top of her class" which would more than qualify her for Masters sponsorship by a company looking to hire her.

The conversation is being muddied by misogynistic rhetoric which is wholly unnecessary.

>>5776

Bollocks, someone replied.

It should read:

>the mainly male faculty were told to fuck off

Fucking cunt mods.

>>5780
You love us really. If you really needed the thread deleted you could have asked.

So have you figured out how you're paying for this yet, OP?

>>5780
Can I use this thread for myself then? I'm doing a masters and got extremely lucky concerning finance.

Got 10k scholarship which will pay for tuition and the bulk of my living costs and accommodation, a summer job which will nab me an extra 1k assuming I work the maximum hours every week. But after a little budgeting it still isn't enough. I've worked out that I would have roughly £800 for living costs for the entire year which isn't enough. My plan is a part time job during the year but ideally I would rather not have one as it will severely affect my studies. My other plan was apply for as many research/clinical trials during the year. Honestly those sort of stints seem like a last resort. My other plan is to apply for DSA as I am eligible but never applied for it during my undergraduate years so I am unsure if I can now. Finally I was going to apply for more grants/scholarships but I'm struggling to find any that I am eligible for.

Any other ideas, lads?

>>5782
I don't need it deleted, I just got fucked off with people talking about how everything's misogynistic or whatever people are crying about this week.

>>5783
Blowjobs for a tenner probably.

>>5784
I get £2k, but that's not even a quarter of the fees so it's essentially irrelevant.

>>5777
Ah, I wasn't aware they worked like that. I suppose that does make for a less hostile environment than shipping, say, a hundred prospective postgrads that don't yet have funding into a formal dinner with representatives from, say, five or six different private businesses with a total of around twenty or thirty studentships worth of funding in total.

Whether or not they are pressured into choosing more women is definitely a valid point of conversation, though I've never once noticed an attitude of bias either away from or towards a certain gender in my years in science - even if there is a male majority. I've always been of the opinion that we should be more concerned in the potential reasons why fewer girls are interested in becoming scientists growing up, not looking for some imaginary ring of mucky old men that don't want girls in their secret treehouse journal club. I can see absolutely no reason why physics and engineering are "boy" subjects now, nor why they should be.

>>5786

As the poster who happened to mention the "male majority" thing, regarding a random university, your post has it spot on.

I would like to post further, but given the shitfest this has become I think it would be better to stay silent. Thin skins from certain posters and all that...

>>5785

>I just got fucked off with people talking about how everything's misogynistic or whatever people are crying about this week.

I did wonder if the OP was the lad crying about women not deserving Masters funding, as he hadn't posted in a while. This more or less confirms it.

I have a few links to resources that are available for post-grad students and where you could apply for a Masters scholarship, depending on your feild, as I was student services advisor for for a couple years and I've helped people apply in the past, but since it's clearly a grooming racket to get sex out of young women I take you wont be interested?

>>5784

If you're eligible for DSA, you'll be eligible for ESA/DLA im assuming as well?

This might seem bad, but there is a loophole that lets you claim ESA while at UNI as long as you do less than 21 hours supervised learning a week. ESA means Housing Bennies too. Your grants/loans don't count as an income, even if you get paid them monthly.

There is always a way.

>>5788
Was on ESA prior to uni. They made up the difference of what I would normally get while I had a maintenance grant/loan for the first two years and in my final year the maintenance grant/loan was more than ESA so I was took off it. I did do more than 21 hours.

Was still on DLA for all three years but recently got off it due to having a summer job upcoming as it exceeds the limit of how many hours and/or the wages I'll be working. Quite frankly happy to be off the system after sponging for so long.

I sacked off DSA originally because it seemed like a ball ache but it's looking attractive for next year. There is indeed always a way, I have plenty of options but due how late I applied for a masters I am unable to get the nice and cheap accommodation. Anyone I feel comfortable living with have their own plans so my only real option concerning that is living in halls again which contributes to my budget being £800 for the year which is just about enough to survive on as I am carefully guarding my current funds left over from this year's grants and loans. If I was able to live with someone I know then there would be no issue as the budget I worked out for a flat lets me have a very comfortable year.

>>5788
>I did wonder if the OP was the lad crying about women not deserving Masters funding, as he hadn't posted in a while. This more or less confirms it.
Well, you're wrong.

Ok, my old housemates are living with two others next year for a total of four. My old two housemates are a couple and lived in the same room last year and effectively the two years prior. I've proposed nicking her room without telling Lando Calrission and subsidising everyone else's rent, especially hers. How shaky is that? If the landlord found out they'd have grounds to evict, I understand that. I'll need to work to get through the year, would there be any downsides to me if I declared my home address as my address on all correspondence and pretend the new place didn't exist and I just commuted the 120 miles to uni every day?

There's a myriad of things that can go wrong here.

>>5817

You're over thinking it. Ultimately, the Landlord just wants paid and his property respected. If the money flows, you'll be fine.

The only way address shenanigans would affect you is if you were red flagged for some reason, which is again not likely. Just don't be overt about what you're doing.

>>5817
With the address stuff, make sure you can get your mail in a timely fashion. Royal Mail redirection will tell some organisations the new address, which on the one hand is a leak but on the other doesn't catch everyone you deal with.

>>5821
I'm not too concerned about mail because there's fuck all important really. I can get my rents to send it to me anyway.

>>5818
What do you mean red flagged?

>>5822

Like parcels coming to the house addressed to you even though you live elsewhere raising suspicion from the landlord.

Or the Uni wondering why they are paying you so much travel, and investigating it. Essentially, don't claim for travel. Just claim your discretionary payments. That way, they wont even notice you apparently live 120 miles away.

>>5823
>raising suspicion from the landlord.
Meh, from my experience you only ever see them once or twice a year. I don't think it'd be difficult to cover up to be honest. I can't remember the last time I ordered a parcel anyway.

>Or the Uni wondering why they are paying you
Not really a worry.

>>5824

Sounds like you're set for a spot of 21st century squatting, then. Godspeed.

Just got rejected by the only job that could've supported me through the masters (flexibility).

So much for that then. Fuck the world.

>>5827
What will you do now?

>>5828
I've got a temp job in purchasing, three month contract (See: office annoyances thread).

My number one priority is to get away from home. I can't stand living here now after four years at uni. I've failed to get a grad job down and I certainly don't want to work in a glorified admin role forever. I suppose I'll keep looking for decent part time work where the MSc is, and when that inevitably fails try to get an off cycle internship whilst applying for graduate positions for next year. I want to go into management consultancy and my degree was scientific so I think the chances of getting a job toward that goal is unlikely without being on a full grad scheme.

I'm 22. Life is short, I need to get away from home as soon as possible and live my youth while I can. I've got no friends nor transport back here, no prospects of social interaction outside work and family, no chance of entering a relationship, just a shit job for three months. I need to go somewhere.

>>5829
So long as you got a plan of what to do mate, good luck.

Decided not to do it. I have no savings so my shortfall is £14,000. Even if I got two part time jobs I'd still need the full loan, and basically kerbstomp my income for the next five years.

Looks like it's a wasted year at home then. I hate this.

>>5899
Well, now I am doing it and have nowhere to live.

Been kicked off my mates sofa. Nowhere to go tonight.


Wonderful. What a fucking mistake this was.

>>5987
What city?

>>5988
Brighton.

>>5987
Wait, are you OP and how did you end up living on a mate's sofa?

>>5990
Yes.

Funding confirmation (loan) didn't come in until the Friday before term started. Two weeks notice period on my job, came down with a prospective house on Wednesday and then they told me to fuck off. There's nowhere to live that I can afford.

A couple of pensioners let me stay the weekend but I've been turfed out today. Gonna go and sit in the library and collapse on a sofa there but I'll probably get kicked out by security.

It's getting cold out.

>>6007

Hostel?

Then, check the newspapers and every shop window and notice board you can find looking for a room in the morning. Failing that, if you can find an unlocked door that leads to a dry cupboard without getting caught you can sleep in there. I've seen people live inside abandoned spaces inside occupied buildings for months at a time without being caught, because they're smart and they dumpster dive.

Somewhere with warm pipes is the Holy Grail until you can find a place, but even then you might be warmer in the cupboard.

I'm in a similar boat at the moment as my professional and career development loan still hasn't been processed (incidentally the university is threatening to suspend me next week but I've fired off some emails so maybe they won't).

At any rate its only covering 80% of my course fees with £2k leftover to live off for 2 years (i.e. I'm hoping the bank will give me 8k tuition now so I can pay this years tuition in full with 60% saved for next year). I've got one or maybe 2 decent jobs in the pipework but I'm not confident on hearing anything back so I'm in a real pickle on how I'm going to live given securing even shitty part-time work is proving difficult.

I'm presently doing an MRes that I aim to bump into a PhD whenever I can get before a tribunal so I think I might have a chance at securing some form of funding but as I've already started I've got no idea if doors have already closed. Anyone here fought through the process before that can give some pointers on doing this all beyond last minute?

>>5991
Lad, this is silly. Go report your problems to student support and get a delayed start until your finance is in order.

I was offered this at the start of the month because the university cocked up my course administration.