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>> No. 6098 Anonymous
15th March 2016
Tuesday 5:37 am
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Do any worthwhile universities offer entrance exams in lieu of UCAS points?
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>> No. 6099 Anonymous
15th March 2016
Tuesday 5:49 am
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>>6098
Worthwhile is a highly subjective term. What are you applying for, where do you want to go in the future? What qualifications do you have at the moment?
>> No. 6100 Anonymous
15th March 2016
Tuesday 5:55 am
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>>6099
Computer science is the only thing I know anything about.

I have mediocre A-levels, and it seems that even average universities want better grades than I have.

It doesn't matter, I don't have the money anyway, and I'm sure the existential ache will be gone when I wake up.
>> No. 6101 Anonymous
15th March 2016
Tuesday 5:57 am
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>>6100
You're better off learning by yourself at home rather than saddling yourself with debt. It's one of those things that would be more easy to learn inside a university but it's just not worth the money you're going to be putting in.

There's plenty of programming courses online.
>> No. 6102 Anonymous
15th March 2016
Tuesday 6:03 am
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>>6101
But software development isn't really the same as computer science, and you can't do postgrad things without a degree.
>> No. 6103 Anonymous
15th March 2016
Tuesday 10:28 am
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Well most worthwhile universities don't care about UCAS points specifically. They're a bit useless because you can boost your score by getting mediocre grades in more subjects. Also they don't differentiate between harder subjects. Unis have a list of subjects they respect, if your subject isn't one of them you're wasting your time flung it.

But yeah, if your grades are naff you probably want to look at doing a foundation year. A quick Google shows that Manchester offers one for compsci but you'll want to do your own research on what the requirements are exactly. I only know of entrance exams in addition to A levels where the subject isn't covered in enough depth at A level (e.g STEP, BMAT etc) I've not heard of it as a replacement for A levels.
>> No. 6104 Anonymous
15th March 2016
Tuesday 11:52 am
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>>6103
>you're wasting your time flung it.

Oops, should say *doing it. Morning phone-posting was a bad idea...
>> No. 6105 Anonymous
15th March 2016
Tuesday 12:22 pm
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>>6103

Is a foundation year usually required if you're applying as a mature student?

t. not OP
>> No. 6106 Anonymous
15th March 2016
Tuesday 12:22 pm
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>>6103

Is a foundation year usually required if you're applying as a mature student?

t. not OP
>> No. 6107 Anonymous
15th March 2016
Tuesday 12:48 pm
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>>6105
Depends how long you've been out of education and what you've been doing. Just ask them.
>> No. 6108 Anonymous
15th March 2016
Tuesday 1:11 pm
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>>6101
Can we stop calling it debt please.
>> No. 6109 Anonymous
15th March 2016
Tuesday 1:32 pm
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>>6108

It is literally debt.
>> No. 6110 Anonymous
15th March 2016
Tuesday 1:45 pm
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>>6108
That's what I keep telling the Student Finance people, but they keep ringing about my "debt", the idiots.
>> No. 6111 Anonymous
15th March 2016
Tuesday 1:46 pm
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>>6109
No, it is literally not debt, on account of it sharing literally none of the characteristics of debt.
>> No. 6113 Anonymous
15th March 2016
Tuesday 2:24 pm
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>>6111

Not this shit again.

Listen, son. If you owe someone fifteen fucking grand, you're bloody well in debt. Alright?
>> No. 6114 Anonymous
15th March 2016
Tuesday 2:40 pm
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>>6113
Then it's a good thing you don't come out of uni owing someone fifteen grand, isn't it?
>> No. 6115 Anonymous
15th March 2016
Tuesday 2:45 pm
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>>6113

A very peculiar sort of debt that is repaid as 9% of your income over £21,000 and is automatically forgiven after 30 years. For all practical purposes, it's a graduate tax.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/10245550/Martin-Lewis-Time-to-stop-calling-student-loans-a-loan.html
>> No. 6117 Anonymous
15th March 2016
Tuesday 2:59 pm
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>>6106

Not necessarily. Most universities have a very flexible admissions policy for mature students and will take your work experience into account.

The Access to HE diploma is good preparation for a degree course and is well worth considering. A degree course can be quite daunting if you've been away from education for some time. The fee loan for the access course is waived completely if you complete your degree, so it might not cost you anything. You can study for the diploma as an evening course at a local college or as a distance learning course, so it's not too difficult to fit around a full-time job.

https://www.accesstohe.ac.uk/
>> No. 6118 Anonymous
15th March 2016
Tuesday 3:08 pm
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>>6115
This, with 20% income tax, 12% NI and 9% student loan it's only 1p in the £ behind 40% income tax and 2% NI for higher rate taxpayers without the student loan but without the benefit of things like more tax relief on pension contributions.
>> No. 6119 Anonymous
15th March 2016
Tuesday 3:09 pm
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>>6115

Assuming you don't have to borrow another penny during your time at uni, which is exceptionally unlikely. But we've had this conversation before.
>> No. 6120 Anonymous
15th March 2016
Tuesday 3:22 pm
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>>6103
>But yeah, if your grades are naff you probably want to look at doing a foundation year.
That isn't possible. I've been and failed once, and I blew through two years of funding doing it. I might be able to fund one year, but I cannot fund two.
>> No. 6121 Anonymous
15th March 2016
Tuesday 5:15 pm
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>>6118
It doesn't quite work that way. For a start, you have a considerably higher allowance on your student loan deductions than income tax and Class 1 NI. Under the new-new system, the threshold his high enough to make it an effective tax in that many will be forgiven before the balance is cleared.
>> No. 6122 Anonymous
15th March 2016
Tuesday 5:18 pm
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>>6120
Have you considered the possibility that university isn't for you?
>> No. 6123 Anonymous
15th March 2016
Tuesday 5:36 pm
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>>6120
>>6122
Or considered the Open University or a part time course?
>> No. 6124 Anonymous
15th March 2016
Tuesday 6:16 pm
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>>6122
I have considered the idea that it is no longer a realistic path.
>> No. 6125 Anonymous
15th March 2016
Tuesday 7:37 pm
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>>6124

Lad. You failed a foundation year.

Unless there were some seriously mitigating circumstances which caused you to fail, you'll never have a university degree.
>> No. 6126 Anonymous
15th March 2016
Tuesday 8:49 pm
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>>6125
I failed for personal reasons, and by a very small margin. I don't think I'm being delusional or dishonest with myself when I say that getting a degree is not beyond my intellectual capacity.

>you'll never have a university degree.
But I do think this is the case.
>> No. 6127 Anonymous
15th March 2016
Tuesday 8:52 pm
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>>6100
>I have mediocre A-levels, and it seems that even average universities want better grades than I have.

Bollocks. Mid-table universities won't give a fuck and I'm proof of this.

>>6105
No, for mature students they like to see experience. That said this whole idea of a foundation degree sounds like a scam to me - do a year part-time at the OU in a relevant subject and you are golden.

>>6119
I didn't borrow another penny at uni (the interest free overdraft did help at some points). You'll need a part-time job to pay for the weed but I made do even without a scholarship which I find out at the end of the final year I was entitled to.

Why is everyone making me angry?

>>6120
What went wrong?

You'll need to have a serious think about what you are doing with your life but its still possible if you use every resource out there. Talk to your bank and UCAS while remembering that you get a free year of funding for fucking up/combined.

So you will need to find funding for your final year - work every summer without being a twat with your wages.

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