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>> No. 23364 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 1:13 pm
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Let's get all femanista for a bit, lads. I was just scrolling down the list of IMDb's Top 250 - which are still all excellent films - and I was struck by just how male the list is. You have to go all the way down to The Silence of the Lambs before you get a lone female protagonist, and even then more people remember that film for Anthony Hopkins than Jodie Foster.

So I want to broaden my horizons - what are your favourite films about and starring women? I'm talking about ones that are mainly women in the cast - don't just say the Alien films.

For instance I liked The Help. I found Little Women mediocre, though.
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>> No. 23365 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 1:18 pm
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What's that film where they're getting chased in caves by Morlocks, The Descent?
>> No. 23366 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 1:22 pm
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Woman at War is good.
I don't know about things that are "mainly women in the cast"; you can have a good, female-centric film without excluding men for the sake of it (I'm thinking of Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri). There are a limited number of contexts where it wouldn't come across as forced.
>> No. 23367 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 1:27 pm
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Maybe try this.
>> No. 23368 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 1:27 pm
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I haven't seen it but it's on my list, Annihilation? Heard good things and I think it's a mostly female cast.
>> No. 23369 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 1:27 pm
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>>23366
>you can have a good, female-centric film without excluding men for the sake of it
Of course, but I'm not talking about films that 'exclude men for the sake of it'. I haven't seen Three Billboards, or, say, Erin Brokovich, but my understanding is that these are films with female principal characters who are nevertheless mostly surrounded by men. I'm talking about decent films with female protagonist(s) who are mostly surrounded by other women.
>> No. 23370 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 1:28 pm
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>>23367
>>23368
Suck my fat one synchronicity.
>> No. 23371 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 1:31 pm
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>>23369
>my understanding is that these are films with female principal characters who are nevertheless mostly surrounded by men
That's right, they're films with female principal characters who are nevertheless mostly surrounded by men, except for all the other women.
>> No. 23372 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 1:41 pm
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The Witch is a really good horror film with a female protagonist that I enjoyed loads and has stuck with me in the year or so since I watched it. I'm not sure it's "mainly women in the cast", but the main character's a woman and it's really her story so I'm counting it.

>>23367
That's such a good film. I won't get into spoilers on account of this being a recommendation thread, but I think I'd sum it up by saying it's a very well balanced film. It's not full of bordering-on-nonsense vaguary nor is it spelling things out as if you're a dribbling baby-brain. Not sure what I'm doing with these hyphens, but I've committed myself now.
>> No. 23373 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 1:46 pm
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A guilty pleasure of mine were things like Legally blonde, Clueless, Mean Girls etc.
>> No. 23374 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 1:53 pm
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Probably the only thing I've seen SJP in where she's actually shaggable.

- Sister Act.
- Sister Act 2: Back in the Habit.
- Keeping Mum is also very underrated.
>> No. 23375 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 2:14 pm
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>>23371
OK fine, include Three Billboards on the list if it's mostly women. Like I said I haven't seen it so I could be wrong.
>> No. 23376 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 2:24 pm
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>>23375
I didn't say it was mostly women, I said it's a film centred around a woman that doesn't have a solely female cast because in the context of it, doing that would be contrived.
>> No. 23377 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 2:49 pm
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Toni Collette is an underrated actress. She plays a depressed single mother in this film, only good acting in the film really.

>>23367
I actually thought this was quite over rated. Likely because it was recommended a few times so I hyped it up a bit in my head. A lot of the visuals and special effects looked like I was on an lsd trip. I have a feeling some of the production dropped a few tabs while making this.

>>23366
>female-centric film without excluding men for the sake of it

Yeah It's pretty noticeable when this happens.

Characteristics like sex, race or nationality are hard to change in long standing media characters especially, people get quite attached to the way characters look. I read something about a female black 007 in the next James Bond. James is distinctly a native English bloke, meaning white Anglican looking, and a bloke. I doubt the viewing figures will be high on that film if they make sweeping changes so frivolously.
>> No. 23379 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 3:13 pm
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>>23377
>I read something about a female black 007 in the next James Bond.
Daftie bastard.
>> No. 23380 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 4:11 pm
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>>23377
A black female Bond could be uncomfortably sexy.
>> No. 23381 Anonymous
13th November 2020
Friday 4:18 pm
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>Bond. Jemima Bond.
>> No. 23382 Anonymous
14th November 2020
Saturday 3:22 am
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>>23379

I do read a lot of shit to be fair. My addiction to random news recommended to me on my phone has been troubling.
>> No. 23434 Anonymous
9th December 2020
Wednesday 6:29 pm
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OP here, I found this image illustrating what I was talking about.
>> No. 23435 Anonymous
9th December 2020
Wednesday 9:35 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsNHAeRZQL4

I think BBC/HBO's Industry scores pretty well on the Bechdel test, and is also excellent.

Mad Max Fury road would score well on the Bechdel test (https://www.gamesradar.com/uk/best-movies-that-pass-the-bechdel-test/3/) but would likely do poorly if assessed by the criteria used in the attached image. Also, it's interesting because it arguably suffered commercially due to being marketed as 'fisherperson', but the quality of the film transcends that category (i.e. it isn't 'good because it's fisherperson' it's 'excellent, but also happens to be fisherperson').

I really liked the recent Emma adaptation.

The Queen's Gambit is another Ana Taylor-Joy work that might be of interest, but as they've basically taken Bobby Fischer and made him a pretty lady, that's kind of cheating.

Could the discrepancy in the dialogue weighting in men v women be indicative that women generally prefer information to be communicated non-verbally whereas men lack nuance and need to state everything explicitly with words?

All the films mentioned so far are great, except Little Women which is weird af because they've taken a piece of classic literature and changed the ending to make it conform with the woke talking points du jour despite it being historically incongruous for its setting.
>> No. 23436 Anonymous
9th December 2020
Wednesday 10:05 pm
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>>23435
>The Queen's Gambit might be of interest
I watched about half an episode of that and got the impression it's mostly about a chess-geninus who's just entered puberty and fancies a much older man. Basically a coming of age sex story in which the protagonist falls for a fake-antagonist.. i don't know, i just feel played having watched it, as if it panders to a secret male fantasy of 'having' a budding young woman, while also playing the female viewers by portraying her as holding her own against the patriarchy.

Is this a cynical attitude to take? Surely not mysoginistic?

I enjoyed Fury Road especially for that badass amputee character. As a screenplay itself it's unoriginal - but it's exciting, fun and has some interesting ideas. Maybe that's the difference - Fury Road is an easily watched action film while Queens Gambit is a slow paced drama. Maybe i'm intimidated by the thought of a woman more intelligent than me.
>> No. 23437 Anonymous
9th December 2020
Wednesday 10:11 pm
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>>23436

I used to love Gilmore Girls when I was in High School, but watching it as an adult I realised how much of a dick Rory was. I'm glad that they stuck by their guns in making her a dick in the recent eps and showing that such behaviour has consequence.
>> No. 23438 Anonymous
10th December 2020
Thursday 9:45 am
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>>23435
>>23436
I'm two-thirds of the way through Queen's Gambit, it's far too long and slow - probably should have been a film or a three-parter instead.
>> No. 23439 Anonymous
10th December 2020
Thursday 10:05 am
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>>23438
If it's about chess it's probably deliberately slow. I don't know, I gave up on Netflix a while back because I found most of their output to be shite.
>> No. 23440 Anonymous
10th December 2020
Thursday 10:31 am
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>>23439

When Netflix does produce something great, they'll reliably cancel it before it can be concluded anyway.
>> No. 23441 Anonymous
10th December 2020
Thursday 10:33 am
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>>23438
Pretty much all septic TV is far too slow; it's just the way they pace their programmes.
>> No. 23442 Anonymous
10th December 2020
Thursday 10:41 am
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>>23438
>>23439
>>23441
May I recommend the Video speed Controller or similar browser extension.
>> No. 23443 Anonymous
10th December 2020
Thursday 10:44 am
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>>23442

If you have to watch entertainment at >1x speed, is it really worth watching though?

I love it for watching lectures, but after watching CSI Cyber at 1.75x I was like 'eh, I probably didn't need to watch this show at all'.
>> No. 23444 Anonymous
10th December 2020
Thursday 11:30 am
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>>23443
> If you have to watch entertainment at >1x speed, is it really worth watching though?
Well, if it was a good piece of entertainment but dragged out to fill more episodes, then .. maybe.

Say if we treat entertainment like mining. And for it to be viable you need to mine a certain amount of entertainment nuggets per hour (Let's call nuggets/hour E). Now a simpleton may be quite happy with x E, and so will happily sit through a show providing x E.
But as a intelligent .gs user you require 1.5x E, so either you eliminate shows below 1.5x E, or you can speed them up till they can satisfy you.
>> No. 23445 Anonymous
10th December 2020
Thursday 11:52 am
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>>23444
No, Netflix has broken Sturgeon's Law. 99% of everything is now shite.
>> No. 23446 Anonymous
10th December 2020
Thursday 12:02 pm
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>>23443
>>23444
I watch pretty much all my YT videos at 2x speed, even the ones I'm interested in.
>> No. 23447 Anonymous
10th December 2020
Thursday 6:49 pm
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I'm loving the entertainment nuggets per hour system of grading entertainment.

But what about suspense scenes? They become less suspenseful at speed. And what of action scenes? They move often move too quickly to really appreciate what's happening.

I guess you need to incorporate variable rate x E in your calculations. Maybe we can make a proposal to Netflix about constructing a variable video speed controller that adjusts videos to the optimum speed for a viewer for any given moment based on level of enjoyment from previous videos watched.
>> No. 23448 Anonymous
10th December 2020
Thursday 10:12 pm
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I find drama/comedy/entertainment in general just doesn't work sped up for me. (If it's so badly directed or edited that I need to change the speed, it's rubbish that's not worth watching to begin with)

But factual stuff, product reviews, etc. on youtube I'm regularly speeding things up, to around 1.25 to 1.75x depending on what sort of thing is going on and how fast the person is speaking.
I struggle with 2x speed, really just because of the audio quality making it to much effort to listen to.
>> No. 23503 Anonymous
17th January 2021
Sunday 1:55 pm
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>>23371
>>23376
OP here, I saw Three Billboards the other day. It's a very good film, but I as I suspected I certainly wouldn't include it in this thread. The protagonist is a woman but all the principal supporting characters are men, as might be expected when it's about a woman's relationship with the police. Rockwell, Harrelson, Dinklage - it's a very male film.
>> No. 23504 Anonymous
17th January 2021
Sunday 2:53 pm
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>>23503
What speed did you watch it at though?
>> No. 23505 Anonymous
18th January 2021
Monday 9:25 pm
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>>23436
What an odd conclusion to come to from watching half an episode. It is actually nothing like that.I personally enjoyed it, though it is oddly paced. It's worth a watch imo and better than most stuff I've seen from Netflix.

HOWEVER, if you're going to watch one thing on Netty, then I'd recommend Unabomber. It's a really addictive show about a good-guy obsessive trying to profile the Unabomber from his cryptic letters and actions. Really watchable.

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