>>23526

>>23527
You said "people" not revenants.

>>23526

There are. You could actually argue their grassroots unionisation movements are stronger than ours, in some respects, considering unionisation is a novelty many Americans have never had before, whereas over here people are simply weary of them because them miners and that.

The difference is there is no political representation of the actually left-wing in America.

https://www.ft.com/content/6ae01b8a-b542-45d5-83d5-4ec4c1cee21b

There's a write up on the upcoming documetnary on FT (sorry, behind-the-paywall lad)

>>23530

I'm fairly sure you can easily archive pages somewhere for people without subscriptions to read.

>>23531

https://www.reddit.com/r/AdamCurtis/comments/l7g8m8/another_writeup_now_from_ft_adam_curtis_nothing/

>>23531
The FT isn't behind a pay wall, there's just an ignorance test. Click the link, Google the headline and boom, full article.

>>23533

Fucking hell, why do they do that?

>>23533
Why would anyone think to do that? That's not really ignorance, just a sensible assumption.

>>23535

Ignorance doesn't imply stupidity. I just means you don't know something.

>>23537
What on earth made you think posting a screencap from social media with no context would be a good post to make on .gs, you cretin?

>>23538

I enjoyed it, you narky blurt.

>>23539
Grumpylad likes to shit on what other people post without offering anything constructive or worthwhile himself. Don't let him put you off.

>>23540
This. Post pepes, who cares. You're all too uptight.

(A good day to you Sir!)

>>23530
>>23532
I don't want to drag a cunt off from another thread into here but was interesting to read he thought the capitol riots were overblown by the media.

>Today, Curtis praises Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and mocks the reporting of the US Capitol riot as overblown by a “codependent” liberal media.

Interesting article/interview anyways. Hoping he does some promo stuff for the new series, always interesting to hear him speak.

>>23539
>>23540
Fuck off back to facebook. Not him.

(A good day to you Sir!)

https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-the-uk/adam-curtis-explains-it-all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eRrZifFkHA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6lqE_MQv8o

The video of that woman doing aerobics with the Myanmar coup d'etat happening in the background is a primo Adam Curtis vibe.

>>23546

People have been tweeting exactly that non-stop since it surfaced.

>>23547

Wouldn't know. Got banned after I stormed Capitol Hill t' other week.

>>23546
It really is a fucking amazing video. Just perfect.

>>23549
It's not really evident what's going on. It's some black vehicles driving through a barricaded checkpoint. How am I to tell this is a coup happening? Possibly if I recognised it as a significant location, but I'm not really au fait with Myanmar's capital.

>>23550
>For three thousand years architects designed buildings with columns shaped as female figures. At last Rodin pointed out that this was work too heavy for a girl. He didn’t say, ‘Look, you jerks, if you must do this, make it a brawny male figure.’ No, he showed it. This poor little caryatid has fallen under the load. She’s a good girl-look at her face. Serious, unhappy at her failure, not blaming anyone, not even the gods…and still trying to shoulder her load, after she’s crumpled under it.
>But she’s more than good art denouncing bad art; she’s a symbol for every woman who ever shouldered a load too heavy. But not alone women—this symbol means every man and woman who ever sweated out life in uncomplaining fortitude, until they crumpled under their loads. It’s courage…and victory.
>“‘Victory’?”
>Victory in defeat; there is none higher. She didn't give up, Ben; she's still trying to lift that stone after it has crushed her. She's a father working while cancer eats away his insides, to bring home one more pay check. She's a twelve-year-old trying to mother her brothers and sisters because mama had to go to Heaven. She's a switchboard operator sticking to her post while smoke chokes her and fire cuts off her escape. She's all the unsung heroes who couldn't make it but never quit.

She could stop and gawp at what's going on but she has aerobics to teach. It might be a juxtaposition but she's just doing her best in circumstances beyond her control like people always have as a the world keeps turning.

>>23551

That's all very well but if something isn't immediately intelligible to >>23550 personally, does it really have any greater meaning? Does it matter at all? Obviously not.

>>23552

The major events of the world tend to unfold behind closed doors. The populace are too busy distracting them with spectacle. In this instance we have History unfolding before our eyes, but unless we knew what the significance of the trucks in the background were we'd ignore them. There's a kind of selective inattention here, that even as History unfolds in front of us we don't perceive it for what it is until somebody tells us what it means.

/r/sorceryofthespectacle had a good thread on it.

lyrics were translated by@jawadywn on twitter

The lyrics of the song in this viral video ("Ampun Bang Jago") mock entitled men:

"I can see them coming one by one

Scrambling for the throne

I don't want to say names, they know who I'm referring to"

("Ampun Bang Jago" is a sarcastic Indonesian slang phrase which is often used to mock arrogant police/military officers)

So there's even a layer of irony to the song being performed. Was this video produced intentionally, or is it just coincidence? What meaning (or lack thereof) is more important, the meaning that was intended by the person who produced the clip? Or the meaning projected on to it by the people who have subsequently viewed it?

>>23552
I'm pointing out that it can still have beauty without the wider context just by showing human action. There's a military barricade in the background and she's dancing.

I'll add the proviso that I still think original-lad was likely chuckling at this being the absurd 'system' at work with his surface-level thinking. The kind of thinking that Adam Curtis is only good for as he can never have his audience pause to reflect on the human struggle or that today carries much the same problems as yesterday.

>>23553

We don't understand meaning without context? Good god! Stop the presses!

>>23554
That Twitter account doesn't appear to exist. But Google Translate gives the following:

>So, there are many people appearing one by one
>Baku seizes the throne so that must be what he is aiming for
>You need to say your name, people are sensitive to songs
>Everyone knows who is number one

No idea how similar Burmese and Indonesian are, but kind of checks out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ODFFiJp0rE
The People of Myanmar are protesting Military occupation today with pots and pans in a manner similar to how people in the UK were memorialising a recently deceased veteran (COVID victim) who served in the Burma campaign during WWII. That's just a little bit poetic.

What I'm trying to figure out about the current situation there is which beligerent represents US interests and which represents PRC's. Judging from the statements made by Biden and CCP respectively, I guess that US backs the Civilian Govt and China has instigated the coup.

The recently deposed government was doing a genocide against eskimos which is a popular pastime of both CCP and the US Military-Industrial Complex, so it's weird that they are in such conflict given that they're largely motivated by the same reprehensible goals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqLIm0HOvuQ

Future Curtis documentaries will pretty much write themselves

>>23558
>That's just a little bit poetic.
Banging pots and pans has been a form of protest since forever, far longer than it's been a way to honour frontline workers.

>>23561

Yes, but the fact that Brits are celebrating a deceased man who did Imperialism in Burma and is considered a hero for being old and dying from a virus within 24 hours of Burmese people protesting a Military Coup d'Etat in the same manner is quite a coincidence.

I really respect you because it must be hard to type snarky single sentence responses on imageboards having only four brain cells.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfC8Lh-HLBo

>>23560
>What I'm trying to figure out about the current situation there is which beligerent represents US interests and which represents PRC's. Judging from the statements made by Biden and CCP respectively, I guess that US backs the Civilian Govt and China has instigated the coup.

Myanmar is in the Chinese sphere of influence so it's easy to guess. The military never completely relinquished power and even if someone new came up they are still complete tied to the Chinese economy and loans.

The real question is can we now go back to calling it Burma because Myanmar is a shit name.

>The recently deposed government was doing a genocide against eskimos which is a popular pastime of both CCP and the US Military-Industrial Complex, so it's weird that they are in such conflict given that they're largely motivated by the same reprehensible goals.

The military was conducting the genocide, initially people assumed Aung San Suu Kyi could do nothing but then she went out and defended the militaries actions. It should really be no surprise given she's an aristocrat in a country where the Buddhist majority vehemently hate eskimos.

Also putting the US on par with what is going on in Myanmar and Xinjiang is childish. The entire reason Myanmar ended up as a Chinese client state is because nobody else wanted anything to do with the regime.

>>23563
>Also putting the US on par with what is going on in Myanmar and Xinjiang is childish.

I mean American Economic prosperity is built on the back of Industrial Slavery in plantation times, and subsequent prosperity is linked to profiteering during WWII (coca-cola and IBM very cozy with the Nazis).

America bombed the shit out of SEA in the post-war period, and conducted several Military Coups in South America and the Middle East when it suited them.

Also a ton of the Xinjiang terrorism that led to the CCP crackdown was CIA-funded proxy war stuff.

So I see what you're saying, but I don't think it's so childish to draw parallels between them.

Pretty much all of the contemporary military conflicts which occur are clandestine proxy wars conducted by nation states in the interest of corporations which back them.

>>23564
Lad, you're trying to defend ongoing genocides with historical whataboutism and corporate conspiracy theories here. I'm not even sure the kind of chronic masturbator playground CCP is currently running in Xinjiang has many historical precedents after the Dzungar genocide.

>Also a ton of the Xinjiang terrorism that led to the CCP crackdown was CIA-funded proxy war stuff.

Sounds like both bollocks and no excuse for the systematic destruction of a people.

>>23565

What part of what I wrote sounds like defense of a Genocide?

>historical whataboutism and corporate conspiracy theories
Lad, this is the Adam Curtis thread.

>>23562
>did Imperialism in Burma

The worst you can say about him is that he was a soldier of one empire fighting another empire, much like the millions who died in the First World War. I don't think you can say he unilaterally decided to colonise Burma, mate.

>>23567

He was taken into hospital ill on the 31st of January and the Coup happened a day later... I don't know lad, that just seems a bit convenient.

>>23565

Fuck off, mediamouthpeicelad.

>>23566
Well we all love a bit of Curtis, but some of us enjoy a good genocide too, so now we're talking about that.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/p093wp6h/cant-get-you-out-of-my-head

It's all up on the link.

Pretty good so far this one. I've watched up to the end of the second episode, I think I'll save the rest for another time though.

I had to chuckle, with the bit about how it turned out the Black Panther terrorists in New York were set up by undercover police. Put me in mind of a lot of the bickering in the Capitol riots thread, where I'm pretty sure there were one or two lads pointing out the US security services have form for that kind of thing.

>>23573

HAIL ERIS!

>>23574

https://theintercept.com/2015/03/16/howthefbicreatedaterrorist/

The last Chris Morris film was about the FBI doing this kind of stuff to promote the War on Terror

'The Newburgh Sting' is a good FBI docimentary on the subject.

Up to the final episode which I will save for later, like the otherlad, I've been finding quite a bit of the series really quite funny with regards to the unintended consequences of the last 200+ years of Western history, and even found it funny with the idea that the language and forms of power themselves are universal and blind - nobody is free from its grip, no matter how much fervour in system x or y they have. It reminded me of his series All Watched Over when it turned out that hippy communes just ended up being cults of personality and the enforcement of one will above everybody else's.

If I didn't laugh, I'd cry etc. etc.

It's like Marx said innit. The more free you believe yourself to be of ideology, the deeper you are ultimately likely to be immersed in it.

Or something like that.

Just finished it all. I don't know, it just felt a bit wondering? I think if it was half the length and a lot tighter-edited it could have a much greater impact.

>>23579

He did repeat a lot of what he's already covered in films like Century of the Self, and All Watched Over as otherlad mentions, but I suppose for someone new coming in, that background context is necessary to set up the rest.

I get the feeling people like us who are familiar with the concepts in his older material might not be the target audience this time, and maybe he was aiming more at was today's highly radicalised Rudgwick/Twitter/Etc politic kids, who often fail to realise they're retreading ground that has been thoroughly trod before. The point seemed largely to be that every time this radical rhetoric comes around, they usually aren't the first, and nor will they be the last, to think they've cracked it, and ultimately only end up assimilated and subverted by the existing structures of power.

But this was an illusion.

I sort of get the idea that this series is considerably more meta than his previous ones - there are a hell of a lot of half-made allusions between the more visible and large-scale looting going on in Russia and China and what's going on in the UK and US where the looting of the economy by a few is more formally legalised and backed up with our states' views on what is acceptable and what is not. Even further, I would like to add, and I'm sure Adam would probably agree with this to some extent - the entire series is just a narrative thread that he has plucked out to help describe how and where things are going, so is he ultimately any better or worse off than a bog standard conspiracy theorist?