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|>>|| No. 425684
So am I the only one who is getting a bit annoyed by this whole Greta Thunberg cult, or am I just too much of a cold hearted cynic that the world would be better off without?
I don't doubt the legitimate concern of her generation over climate change, after all it will fall to them to sort out the utter fucking mess that we have left the planet in, but all the awards that she is now being showered with are IMO just middle aged and old people's guilt over their own failure to save the planet's climate despite having had decades of prior warning, and who lost their way and succumbed to high carbon footprint consumerism somewhere between 1990s road protest villages and today's school runs in a 4x4. None of it feels sincere or genuine, it's more like, yeah, just take all these awards and shut the hell up already.
And parents whose children now protest every Friday or so are now engaging in pissing matches on twitter and Instagram to show off which one of their kids gets the most involved. As one commenter said, nothing good has ever come of a youth protest movement that was applauded by parents.
|>>|| No. 431299
>You know what I felt pretty bleak about the world around 2014-15
Oh, to renew those halcyon days... I do tend to err on the side of caution when it comes to seeing the past as better than what it really was, but in this instance I do think you have a point. I don't remember feeling like I was a grunt in the great information war everytime I was online back then, perhaps it was ignorance, or maybe the fear, uncertainty and doubt truly is mounting for good reason. I think I'd have gone utterly off my rocker by now if I was plugged into social media in a big way too.
That really wasn't the point he was making, ecolad.
|>>|| No. 431300
>cool, you're over hearing about climate change. you can just safely ignore it then
Most things in life do go away all on their own if you just pay them no mind, don't you know. We'll just ignore global temperatures back down. That'll work. Ignorance is still the only true bliss.
|>>|| No. 431305
Greta should come to saville Town near Dewsbury. Stand up in the community centres. Tell the bearded men OMG DEADED
|>>|| No. 431306
Camping out and eating vegan sweets in London is doing exactly as much to change the situation as I am by ignoring it.
|>>|| No. 431311
Fucking hell, XRlad. You didn't tell us that you'd be able to claim up to £300 per week in expenses from them for protesting. Kept that hit quiet.
|>>|| No. 431312
Do I have to explain the point of protesting for the millionth time? No one thinks dressing up as the "Red Brigade" and getting collared en masse is going to suck CO2 from the air and put solar panels on roofs, but it draws attention from the populace, the media and government, which increases the likelihood of whatever you're protesting about staying at the top of the agenda and therefore the odds someone will do something about it.
|>>|| No. 431313
Is it just me or is there one lad in this thread who seems to be repeatedly grasping the wrong end of the stick? Or he's just trying to be BRILLIANT and failing.
|>>|| No. 431317
But protesters can generally be safely ignored in such relatively small numbers. It's just fringe weirdos.
|>>|| No. 431321
Safely ignored in small numbers my arse.jpg
Except it isn't and you'd know that if you weren't actively in denial.
>more than 100 healthcare professionals joined the sixth day of climate change protests
>Doctors, nurses and medical students were among those demonstrating at Jubilee Gardens
>Saturday's protest, organised by the environmental group Extinction Rebellion, drew at least 20,000 people, including representatives from women's movements, student groups and trade unions.
>Many actors, musicians and politicians have taken part in the civil disobedience campaign.
>Kevin Treweeks, grand secretary of Plymouth in Unison, a trade union in the south-west of England, called on more workers' groups to join the movement.
This is despite the fact that it was raining the entire time.
As for being "safely ignored":
>Up to 100 police officers are being deployed from Scotland to London next week to assist with the Extinction Rebellion protests.
>Met Police chief Cressida Dick said the force had been "stretched" by the protests
Which conveniently doesn't mention the extra police drafted in right from the start from Devon, Cornwall, Gloucestershire, Kent, Surrey, Wales and all sorts of other places.
>As of 17:30hrs on Saturday, 12 October, there have been 1,307 arrests in connection with the ongoing Extinction Rebellion protests across London.
|>>|| No. 431326
But they aren't being ignored, they're on the news all the time and people are talking about XR day in, day out, like you are right now. Stop trying so hard to be contrary.
|>>|| No. 431327
I got flipped off by a hipster on a bicycle for honking at him yesterday when he crossed the road right in front of me out of nowhere on his bike. With no pedestrian or bicycle crossing in sight.
It wasn't just the middle finger, but the expression on his face of moral superiority because I was driving a climate polluting, space consuming automobile, and he was so much better than me because he was riding a bike.
Not saying cars aren't bad for the environment, especially my old banger, but I refuse to let hipster cumshites get away with feeling superior to me that way.
|>>|| No. 431330
It's a particular facial expression that any non-sperg should be able to read and identify correctly.
|>>|| No. 431337
It's curious that the BBC isn't reporting on last weeks actions directly at all. Just that thing about the Scottish police officers. You'd think the longest large-scale occupation of London since Occupy (if not longer) would be "in the public interest". I know they're receiving enough complaints about the lack of coverage continually that their complaints switchboard keeps crashing (both the online one and their phones).
Would I be paranoid if I thought there was something fishy about it?
|>>|| No. 431338
Are you suggesting some kind of conspiracy in which powerful people do favours for other powerful people to the detriment of the public? What utter piddle and tosh.
|>>|| No. 431344
It's been shown very conclusively (maybe some of the strongest evidence you can find in the social sciences) that media coverage of events is heavily influenced by ownership, advertising, complicity and collaboration among media circles, mudslinging/flak, and political ideologies that target a common enemy. I'd highly recommend reading Manufacturing Consent by Chomsky and Herman for this.
The BBC is a state broadcasting agency. Despite its editorial guidelines for impartiality, it cannot reach that standard by virtue of its organisational structure -- it may not be dependent on advertisers, and relies on public funds, but there is still very close relationships between government, private companies, and the BBC.
Remember that the Iraq war protest in London in February 2003 is regarded by some as he largest in British history. A couple of months later the BBC aired this gushing report on the news at 10:
|>>|| No. 431345
>The BBC is a state broadcasting agency.
Honestly think I might have explained why this is wrong more times than I've explained the purpose of protest.
|>>|| No. 431346
>The BBC is a state broadcasting agency. Despite its editorial guidelines for impartiality, it cannot reach that standard by virtue of its organisational structure -- it may not be dependent on advertisers, and relies on public funds, but there is still very close relationships between government, private companies, and the BBC.
Yes, the BBC is reliant on public funds, and as we've seen the Government can retaliate for things it doesn't like through its funding streams (see: World Service, S4C, over-75s, etc.), but that argument is a bit beyond the pale.
|>>|| No. 431348
Absolute shitshow from the police doing a lot of illegal things today. Breaching human rights. No, I can't be bothered to argue with you pedantic-technicality-bootlickerlad.
|>>|| No. 431349
>Absolute shitshow from the police doing a lot of illegal things today.
In other words, "policing as usual".
|>>|| No. 431351
Granted, but they're doing it to people who know their rights and can afford lawyers.
|>>|| No. 431355
It's like they say, all are equal before the law. It doesn't matter who you are, coppers gonna cop.
|>>|| No. 431376
I was tempted to say his "damned agriculture, polluting by a means my employers aren't invested in" message was more cynical that it might appear, but I checked and Mercedes do indeed sell farming vehicles.
I guess he's off to Formula MemE next year.
|>>|| No. 431382
It doesn't seem like the cops know they're breaching human rights, from their point of view they're just doing what they're told and comparing notes about how unusual ("a solicitor!" "I got a nun!") the people they're arresting are. They're not bad people, they're just some of them a bit blinkered about what's actually going on.
My arresting officer tried to empathise with me by talking about how he didn't like how sometimes traffic fumes smelled bad. As though that's the issue. In his defence, he also was bursting for a piss for hours or was off his face on modafinil, boy could hardly stand still. He was less than half way through a 12 hour shift, his friends were on 16 and 18 hour ones.
|>>|| No. 431383
>I guess he's off to Formula MemE next year.
I think he's just having a massive sulk because his teammate won the last race; he's a bit of a drama queen when things don't go his way.
|>>|| No. 431385
>He was less than half way through a 12 hour shift, his friends were on 16 and 18 hour ones.
The fact that you seem shocked that someone might be doing a 12 (or 18) hour shift, and that officers find novelty in arresting the sort of people protesting says everything, really. I hope you know that. It's not impressive that solicitors or celebrities can join in the protests, it's confirmation that they have much more freedom than the rest of us, than the people working in the polluting industries you're railing against. If you think a bit harder about why you find it notable a copper has a twelve hour shift, you might start to work out why he seemed "blinkered to what's actually going on" and why others aren't paying that much attention to this crisis as you expect them to.
|>>|| No. 431389
Difficult to do 'owt else when you're on 12-18 hour shifts.
Still, they knew what they were getting in to when they joined the police, there's no real dress up on "oppress your fellow citizens on behalf of the rich in exchange for money."
Being ignorant of the current political situation doesn't excuse them, as they're so fond of saying, ignorance is no defence in law.
|>>|| No. 431390
>Still, they knew what they were getting in to when they joined the police
Did they? Is "oppress the poor" how the police are portrayed in mainstream culture, or is that just a left-wing analysis? Ask a ten year old who wants to be a police officer when they grow up why, and "to uphold the supreme authority of the state" is not going to be the answer.
|>>|| No. 431392
So I can't dislike a 30 year old man because his 10 year old self made a major life choice that he just never got around to reassessing?
[X] Whine mate.
|>>|| No. 431393
I've checked and the Nuremberg Defence is valid so long as they don't know the orders are in breach of human rights. Enough of a fuss has been made about this since yesterday that they'd be hard pressed to prove they don't know any more.
I'm not shocked at all, I was just remarking on what I saw and heard. Much like the lad who thought he could read a cyclists mind from a brief facial expression, that's all shit you've invented in your head.
|>>|| No. 431394
One the one hand, it does take a certain type of person to join the police. On the other hand, I'm sure there are plenty of idealistic types who honestly believe they're joining up to make the world a safer place. After all, they are usually pretty thick.
|>>|| No. 431396
FWIW the FIA purchase carbon credits to offset all the track sessions and globetrotting and have done for over 20 years. That just leaves the small question of teams' R&D activities.
|>>|| No. 431405
Mainly make Bernie and Max feel better about themselves. I imagine their successors haven't stopped due to the bad PR that would go with it.
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