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|>>|| No. 428025
My other half has squeezed all of the washing up liquid into a Kilner bottle.
Lads, I don't get it. I really don't get it. I mean, I gave up trying to understand women a long time ago but every now and then something happens that leaves me utterly flummoxed beyond all comprehension. Is 'WITH NOTHING TO SAY BECAUSE I AM A CUNT' still wordfiltered? I mean, she's moved it from one bottle... to another bottle. It doesn't even pour that well so you always end up using more than you intended to. I doubt anyone in the entire history of humankind has ever thought "washing up liquid in a glass bottle, nice." It's bright yellow and she also pours the cooking oil into a Kilner bottle, which she doesn't store too far away from it, so I can almost certainly guarantee at some point in the future she'll end up frying food in washing up liquid. The lid is also a faff. Just... why? Why, lads?
Can you lads please reassure me that your lasses do stupid shit like this?
|>>|| No. 428147
Can't stand messy clutter, minimalism is the way forward.
One or two key items that blend in, a plant maybe and that's it. Everything else neatly out of sight.
My old gf loved to just keep useless crap and it drove me mental.
|>>|| No. 428148
>It is a neglected area of thought because there are political interests, and panderings at play. If you aren't careful in what you say there is a good chance a fair chunk of society will hate you for it, and accuse you of being an institutional trout farming apologist.
>No, but people are speaking fondly of such a time and I don't think it's a stretch to interpret that as tacit endorsement.
Res ipsa loquitur!
|>>|| No. 428149
It is time someone had the courage to say something as controverial as indentured servants are bad.
|>>|| No. 428151
>It's plain to see when it's as black and white as earning money and controlling finances, but more subtle when it's a homemaker overseeing your diet, living conditions, hygiene, everyday habits, etc..
There's a joke which is eluding me that I think is based on a quote by Einstein.
It's something like... In my marriage we agreed I make all of the big decisions while my wife makes all of the little decisions. Little decisions such as how many children we have, when and where we go on holiday, how often we change the car, home improvements, what we eat, what we wear, etc. We haven't had a single big decision to make yet.
My Dad is certainly mothered by my Mum. If she dies first then he is absolutely fucked because he will not be able to function as an independent adult. I've come across plenty of men his age who have devolved almost all responsibility to their wives and are incapable of making a decision without having it approved first.
|>>|| No. 428164
> If she dies first then he is absolutely fucked because he will not be able to function as an independent adult. I've come across plenty of men his age who have devolved almost all responsibility to their wives and are incapable of making a decision without having it approved first.
There are quite a few young men who move out from their parents' and straight in with their first serious girlfriend. The problem then really being that such a lad probably never learned to cook, do laundry and ironing, grocery shopping, or clean up after himself because mum always did those things for him. And now he's moved in with his girlfriend, and even if they don't end up married to each other, he'll probably go from one relationship to the next where he'll always have his partner do all of it.
I maintain that living single for a few years is one of the most valuable experiences that a young lad can have. To be completely self sufficient with all the little jobs around the place that need doing but have nobody else to do them but yourself.
I can iron, do laundry, cook, wash up, I know how to use a vacuum cleaner, I can sew on a button, the works. I don't need a woman in my life to do any of that for me. The only reason I really want to be with another woman again sooner or later is really the sex and the companionship. More or less in that order.
|>>|| No. 428167
This is what one of my mates did. What sometimes troubles me is that he often seems unhappy with the situation, but if he should want to, he simply does not know how to get himself out of it. Seven years on, they're married with a mortgage.
She can do essentially whatever she wants- He could walk in on her fucking three other blokes, and he wouldn't know how to even start navigating the conversation about breaking up, let alone the process of separating their lives. He'd just have to let it happen.
Doing your own washing up and cooking a pot noodle isn't rocket science. I have faith that even the worst manchildren can suss it out when/if they need to. But it's definitely more than just a sitcom trope that some men surrender huge chunks of autonomy to their partners, for better or worse.
|>>|| No. 428171
>She can do essentially whatever she wants- He could walk in on her fucking three other blokes, and he wouldn't know how to even start navigating the conversation about breaking up, let alone the process of separating their lives. He'd just have to let it happen.
That's another reason why I think it's valuable life experience for a lad to spend a year or two, maybe even longer, having to fend completely for himself without outside help and interference. With no women in their lives except for the occasional fling or one night stand. That's how you learn to become an independent human being, and somebody who isn't afraid to take on a fight and be in charge when the situation requires it.
Curiously, the same women who've got hen-pecked husbands at home
start frothing at the gash at that thought tend to somehow find that massively attractive. When the real irony is that they played an active part in turning the lad they're with into the kind of uncapable loser that he is.
|>>|| No. 428172
You aren't saying anything disagreeable, but the Tyler Durden picture is making me want to roll you down a hill anyway.
|>>|| No. 428175
Yeah sorry about that picture, it's much less of a clever idea than I thought last night.
|>>|| No. 428181
Honestly these men deserve it. Imagine being unable to look out for yourself.
The best thing that ever happened to me was an ex-gf of the long term variety just dropping me one day and me going on a mad one and taking a job in a completely different place.
I enjoy being so much on my own that when women do enter my life I find it annoying when they're in my space or don't meetmy standards.
|>>|| No. 428182
>Honestly these men deserve it. Imagine being unable to look out for yourself.
Sounds like victim blaming m8. Imagine saying something similar about a woman.
|>>|| No. 428183
You say "they deserve it", but then admit that the only thing keeping you from being one of these manbabies was an act of chance completely out of your control that, had it not occured, would have left you none the wiser about looking after yourself. Seems a touch, dare I say, smug to act all superior when you were potentially a hair away from becoming mortgaged and married to a woman who'd never have asked you to lift a finger.
|>>|| No. 428188
It's like how my Grandad is smug about quitting cigarettes despite him being told by doctors he could either quit or lose a leg in about six months.
|>>|| No. 428197
We're not talking about female circumcision here, lad. Have some perspective.
I know there are intricate relationship dynamics involved here that can cause a man to sink to the level of inept downtrodden husband. But they can be overcome relatively easily by getting off your arse and growing a pair of quite average sized testicles.
So yeah, unless you're with some sort of manipulative psycho bint for a wife or girlfriend, it's a prison of your own making.
|>>|| No. 428198
>So yeah, unless you're with some sort of manipulative psycho bint for a wife or girlfriend, it's a prison of your own making.
I know I'll be stepping on thin ice to say this, but I think that's sort of the crux of the issue.
A lot of behaviours that would be rightly recognised as manipulative, controlling and even abusive if a bloke did it, are just seen as totally acceptable, even normal, when a woman does it. A lot of men just think that's how life is supposed to be.
Stockholm syndrome seems to kick in very quickly with all the lads I've ever known that have a horrible girlfriend, just like it does with birds who are in relationships with abusive men.
|>>|| No. 428201
Exactly this. I too know what sort of a response this will likely get, but things like controlling finances, what you wear, who you talk to, are all considered huge warning signs, if not direct abuse, when a man does it to a woman, but the opposite is rarely recognised in the same way - and my pet theory is that this is a result of ideas still latent in society that women are weak enough to be taken advantage of and men are expected to be strong enough that if he does what a woman tells him to, it's on him.
I fear I sound like one of those men's rights knobends on reddit but that's quite far from my actual position on the matters of equality.
|>>|| No. 428202
>A lot of behaviours that would be rightly recognised as manipulative, controlling and even abusive if a bloke did it, are just seen as totally acceptable, even normal, when a woman does it.
"I can see who wears the trousers in your relationship!"
|>>|| No. 428205
The key is realising that no person, man or woman, has a right to treat you that way.
And that you are free to exit a relationship like that any time you like. No matter how dense the web of manipulation is that your partner has woven around you.
Jesus Christ, there's fucking bats swooping over my balcony as I am writing this.
|>>|| No. 428224
That's great if you have the strength of will and character to realise it. But in my earlier example I mentioned the mate who moved straight out of his parents house and straight in with a domineering mother hen of a girlfriend. That kind of woman tends to know exactly when she's onto the kind of lad who won't stand his ground, and they're usually not daft about how to secure their position. Naturally she's great mates with the lad's mum, and integrated fully with his closest circle of friends (or rather- their partners). Nothing he says or does will ever be at risk of slipping past her notice.
Right now he accepts his situation, but the point is, he's never had to face the prospect of dismantling a relationship, a living situation, and social group in that way. Once she's that deeply part of his life he's unlikely to even consider it. It begins to look like altogether too much hassle, she knows that, and that's the point.
When I look back on my ex the pattern was similar. The arguments we had were never actually because I had done anything wrong. It was always because I had resisted her control, I had stood up for my boundaries, and that wasn't how it was supposed to work. She only started acting that way after I let her move in and she was legitimately surprised that I'd dumped her, even though it had been nothing but bitter fighting for nearly an entire year. In her head, I was eventually going to buckle, an telling her where to go instead was simply never a possibility she considered. She wasn't as good at it as my mate's Mrs and I'm not as easy to work, but that was what she was aiming for.
Apologies for taking this in a somewhat 101/emo direction but you don't get to talk about these things often, and coming to terms with and recovering from an environment like that is pretty gruelling honestly.
|>>|| No. 428226
Well good on you that you got rid of that no good ex of yours.
There is the school of thought that we learn relationship blueprints in our family as we grow up, and that we are quite likely to repeat what we witness watching our parents as younglads and younglasses. And then that if you come from a family where your mother was an all-controlling termagant like that and your dad was a spineless yes-man, then you are bound to repeat that relationship pattern, not just because that's the kind of relationship blueprint that was shaped in you, but because naturally you also carry half your dad's genes, and as a lass, you also carry half your mum's genes and can have it in you to push around your boyfriend or husband the same way.
On the other hand, my therapist that I saw for a while happened to tell me once that there is another kind of effect that your parents' relationship can have on you, and that is that you say to yourself, fuck no, I don't want to have a relationship like my parents, I'm going to do things differently.
The key to understanding abusive relationships and enabling an abused person to exit such a relationship is that they always consist of one person who dominates, and one person who allows that domination to happen. Now, before the accusations of victim blaming start again, that does not mean that it is a conscious decision to allow someone to dominate and abuse you. Usually, it stems from the fact that you were never given a chance to learn how to stand up for yourself. There may be deeper self worth issues within you which, again, aren't your fault, but all that combined means you just can't seem to succeed at ditching your abuser on your own. And that's where women's aid organisations come in (curiously, I don't think they exist for abused men), and they will build you up and give you emotional support and enable you to stand up for youself and escape your abuser.
I'm not saying you should kill your nagging bitch of a wife with a hammer like Lester Nygaard in Fargo, but that scene really sums up beautifully the kind of dynamic that makes it so hard to exit an abusive relationship.
|>>|| No. 428251
No because there's a country we commonly call "America" so that would be confusing. However many people call people on the southern part of the American continent "South Americans", which you might not have known.
|>>|| No. 428252
I wonder how angry OP will get when they're down to the last bit of washing up liquid and he's got to stare at it for about fourty odd seconds as it slowly runs along the sides of the bottle, before it limply drips out onto his dishes.
He's gonna' go mental.
|>>|| No. 428255
>No because there's a country we commonly call "America" so that would be confusing.
Right, and in this country there's a specific community of people we commonly call "Asian".
|>>|| No. 428257
He'll be too angry to think, even it does occur to him he won't do it. "It's the principle, I shouldn't have to put the water in the bottle so I won't".
Absolutely bonkers, off his head.
|>>|| No. 428258
There's approximately a fifth of the bottle left, which now has a few streaks of dried liquid going down it due to how shit it pours (and because I'm not cleaning it out of principle). I'm tempted to top it up before it's empty with different coloured wash liquid.
|>>|| No. 428267
How does the old joke go... You know you're a redneck if you think Central America means Kansas.
|>>|| No. 428349
And he gets angry and shakes it like a bottle of red sauce, and it just globs out and doesn't make the lovely foam.
Makes me mad just thinking of it.
|>>|| No. 428668
I've been dress shopping with my girlfriend today. Why do women have so many clothes to choose from? It's fucking ridiculous.
|>>|| No. 428669
I've noticed that when it really comes down to it, 90% of it is absolute shit that looks like a Blue Peter presenter threw it together with a hangover. But women are fussy, and their clothing market wouldn't work if they didn't feel like they had lots of choice.
Blokes often complain that they have less to choose from but out of all that choice, men and women still have roughly the same amount of viable, aesthetically pleasing clothing combinations. This is why you more often see a woman dressed like a complete twat than a man.
Men want to go into a shop and come out with something good looking, with as little fuss as possible. Most men don't even want that, they just want jeans and a t-shirt. Whereas women want to feel like they have really achieved something by finding that one perfect dress and pair of heels.
|>>|| No. 428670
I think on the bottom line, men and women just view the purpose of clothing differently. For men, form mainly follows function. You want clothes that suit your needs on the job and in your free time respectively, and ideally ones that make you look just barely sharp and handsome, although even that is negotiable when you look at some lads in the street.
Women, on the other hand, on top of wanting to feel well dressed and attractive, tend to want clothes to be decoration and to reflect the mood they're in, clothes must match their hair colour, overall style, and any number of other attributes that appear relevant on a given day to a woman (around a woman's ovulation, dresses have been proven scientifically to become shorter and more revealing, for one thing).
And so women end up with cupboards full of clothes that were bought one day on a whim because it seemed like a good idea at the time, but then those clothes just disappear into the vastness of that cupboard, becoming one of five dozen possible outfits, but women still complain that they've got nothing to wear for the occasion at hand.
And it's of course blasphemy when you as a bloke then tell your missus that the choice would be easier if she had fewer clothes to begin with.
|>>|| No. 428671
>(around a woman's ovulation, dresses have been proven scientifically to become shorter and more revealing, for one thing).
This sounds like "deadly Harvestman" territory, but I'll buy it, for now.
|>>|| No. 428693
> I actually felt like she was trying to make me forget how to look after myself to force me into dependency.
You might be not too far off the mark. Some of them do exactly that.
I'm only unsure if it's a conscious decision.
> he'll probably go from one relationship to the next where he'll always have his partner do all of it.
Certainly the way one of my friends had been doing.
I remember him admitting it flat out once when I brought him a spare part for his car and found him sitting in the kitchen hungry. He said he'll wait for the missus to come and cook him something. 'And if we ever part ways, I'll just find myself another one.'
|>>|| No. 428709
>Certainly the way one of my friends had been doing.
I remember hearing a radio interview once where they interviewed one of those women who do phone sex for pay. And she said one time, an older chap called her and asked her if she could help him figure out how to wank himself off. This was before the Internet, or at least before the elderly warmed up to it.
Anyway, apparently the chap said that his wife had died a while ago, and that she was the only person he was ever intimate with since they got married in their teenage years.
The poor lad was so dependent on his late wife that he never even learned to properly wank himself off.
|>>|| No. 428724
If a man wants to wank, a man wanks. There are chaps climbing the Machu Picchu trail who are doing it and there are ten years plus Gitmo detainees indulging as well.
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