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>> No. 443102 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 12:12 pm
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Requiescat in pace
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>> No. 443103 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 12:23 pm
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this has to be a troll....

oh wait
>> No. 443104 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 12:33 pm
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>>443102
>> No. 443105 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 12:43 pm
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Didn't take long.

>Phince Philip dien on 9th April 2021.[8] The Prince Philp movement is expected to go into a month of mouring. This will include fasting, drinking tea and casual dolphin rape. Prnce Charles will replace him as their living spirital leader.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Philip_Movement
>> No. 443106 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 12:49 pm
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It took Nicholas Witchell 28 minutes to get on BBC News.

Slightly disappointing, I had assumed that he'd be on 24/7 standby.
>> No. 443107 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 12:55 pm
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Has anyone blamed Meghan yet?
>> No. 443108 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 1:05 pm
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>>443107

She did him in with her WAP.
>> No. 443109 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 1:05 pm
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Natural causes? Nothing to get excited about.
>> No. 443110 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 1:23 pm
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Switch the radio on. It's all sad music only on every radio station. I thought they were only going to do that for the Queen.
>> No. 443111 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 1:27 pm
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>>443106
Probably rubbed one out to calm his nerves.
>> No. 443112 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 1:39 pm
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>>443110
Damn, they even got Shaun fucking Keaveny. This country, I can't stand this bollocks.
>> No. 443115 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 2:13 pm
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>>443102
Good night sweet prince
>> No. 443116 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 2:34 pm
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Very sad. The line in the BBC article on outliving nearly everyone who knew him reminded me of my grandmother saying the same thing in her 90s when, seeing the end, she told us that there's nobody to invite to the funeral.

Will we get a special bank holiday?
>> No. 443117 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 2:46 pm
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>>443116
>Brits will not get a bank holiday on the day of Prince Philip's funeral but the country has entered a period of mourning.
>The UK has entered a national period of mourning which will last until the day of the funeral, when people will still be expected to go to work.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/brits-given-public-holiday-day-23883710
>> No. 443118 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 2:58 pm
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Christ almighty, I might be a republican, but if this is how mental the country goes when some elderly do-nothing racist drops dead then I think I was the Queen to live forever.
>> No. 443119 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 3:00 pm
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>>443118

Now, now. A bit more respect on this day of mourning.
>> No. 443120 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 3:03 pm
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>>443118
Yeah but he was a funny racist. If it's homorous and not malicious then it's alright.

Everyone's a little bit racist.
>> No. 443121 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 3:06 pm
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We had a sweepstake on at work over when he was going to go. He's taken that long I don't remember who had April.
>> No. 443122 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 3:16 pm
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>>443121

https://deathlist.net/

I guess he had been a hot pick for some time.



Not sure I want to see Betty White go.
>> No. 443123 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 3:42 pm
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They're still on about it on the radio. I'm just glad he didn't die during Line of Duty.
>> No. 443124 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 3:46 pm
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>>443123
He was very obviously H. I'll bet he even sent Fayed a finger out of the freezer when he stepped out of line.
>> No. 443125 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 4:14 pm
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>>443124
There's four H's now, or something.
>> No. 443126 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 4:26 pm
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>>443123

It'll be non-stop Prince Philip until 6am.

40 kilowatt sound system, lightshow and lasers, tight but polite security, tickets available from all good outlets.
>> No. 443127 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 4:27 pm
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>>443125
Right, but we've already seen three of them. It makes sense why they can't seem to touch him. Everyone knows that if you cross him he'll put you in a pillar in Paris.
>> No. 443128 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 4:29 pm
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>>443127
He's a real pillar filler of the community.
>> No. 443129 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 5:34 pm
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Now, were they close enough that this will somehow jolt her out of her immortality?
>> No. 443130 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 5:36 pm
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Are there any pictures of Phil and DMX in the same room?
>> No. 443131 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 5:53 pm
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>>443130
Well now I'm confused. First they insisted he wasn't dead, now they are saying he is dead. It's like that Friends episode.
>> No. 443132 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 5:57 pm
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Radio 1 is only playing downtempo instrumental music to avoid the slightest possibility of causing offence. It's basically turned into Chill lo-fi beats to grieve to.
>> No. 443133 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 6:04 pm
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>>443132
Radio 2 is similar. It's either Elgar or David Gray.
>> No. 443134 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 6:32 pm
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>>443132

I bet they haven't played this like they did when Princess Di died:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koDsG8bXuKY
>> No. 443135 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 7:12 pm
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This is insane! I feel like I'm living in Soviet Union, except at least those cunts had a government that built fucking houses.
>> No. 443136 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 7:17 pm
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>>443134
24 years on and I can still feel the annoyance I had when they cancelled Dennis the Menace because of Diana's death.
>> No. 443137 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 7:32 pm
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>>443135
Prepare for the patriotism angle to be ramped up, and keep an eye on the news stories in the background, Boris will use this and it's going to be dragged out for some time.
>> No. 443139 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 7:41 pm
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>>443135
I've felt the same today too - the BBC is acting weird.
>> No. 443140 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 7:44 pm
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I've had BBC1 on all afternoon and evening while working on a Power Point presentation. It's been a bit repetitive over the hours, but I guess at some point, there is only a finite number of things you can report besides the actual fact that he has died.
>> No. 443141 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 7:56 pm
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>>443140
You are allowed to turn over.
>> No. 443142 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 8:19 pm
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>>443141
I'm not so sure anymore.
>> No. 443143 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 8:38 pm
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It's not that hard to remain ignorant if you want to, lads. If I hadn't come on here today I wouldn't even have found out.
>> No. 443144 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 8:41 pm
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>>443134
I guess they can't have Dead Flag Blues by Godspeed You Black Emperor, because it has the word "Dead" in the title. Although the special sadness playlist at my work had lots of sad songs about broken hearts. I used the presence of these songs to infer that this is not what Prince Philip died of.
>> No. 443148 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 9:29 pm
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>>443141

Every single BBC station was broadcasting the same eulogising of him earlier today, it really felt like we were in North Korea or something.

I know you lads hate Spotify but as far as I can tell they haven't interrupted my day with the 'breaking news' that a 99 year old greek has died.
>> No. 443151 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 9:51 pm
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Do people really give that much of a fuck about Prince Philip?
>> No. 443152 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 9:53 pm
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>>443148
I, for one, don't even own a spotify.
>> No. 443154 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 9:54 pm
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>>443120
I get the feeling he wasn't exactly an Women's Institute man, but just settled into his ways in the 1920s and never changed.
>> No. 443155 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 10:09 pm
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>>443143
Is it though? They've just binned BBC4 completely. Can't have people watching old episodes of Top of the Pops after a ninety-nine year old died at home, in bed of natural causes.
>> No. 443156 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 10:27 pm
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>>443155

Looks like Dave isn't bothered. And that's what counts.


They're even going to show Insert Name Here tomorrow night. My favourite!
>> No. 443157 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 10:50 pm
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>>443137
>keep an eye on the news stories in the background, Boris will use this and it's going to be dragged out for some time.
>> No. 443158 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 10:50 pm
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>>443155
I am most peeved about BBC4. I'm not entirely sure why canning it is necessary. It's the only BBC channel I watch FFS.
>> No. 443163 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 11:25 pm
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Yeah okay, this is a lovely photo of them both.
>> No. 443165 Anonymous
9th April 2021
Friday 11:31 pm
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>>443163
Shut up, you muppet.
>> No. 443170 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 12:16 am
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The extent of my interest runs to having a laugh at anyone who feigns interest, positive or negative. As if it matters or affects anyone at all.
>> No. 443172 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 1:20 am
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>>443157
How can they make Indy 5 when there's only 3 Indy films?
>> No. 443174 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 8:37 am
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>> No. 443175 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 9:21 am
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>>443174
The site I see that on seems to portray it (and, apparently, some automated tweets that went out after his death but were subsequently deleted) as being huge blunders. Good on them, the more they blow inconsequential bullshit out of proportion the stupider they look.
>> No. 443176 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 10:06 am
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>>443175
Labour leaking this to sabotage themselves is a blunder. It's also bad optics at a time when they're getting flak for taking the piss out of the flag or whatever that drama is.
>> No. 443177 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 10:10 am
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>>443174
I used to like Guido, but I wish they stuck to doing the type of journalism that no one else is doing rather than this type of petty shite.
>> No. 443178 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 10:13 am
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>>443176
It's nothing.
What is something is whatever the fuck Rishi and Cameron have been doing.
>> No. 443179 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 10:17 am
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>>443177>>443177
I still get the feeling sometimes Guido is a massive joke that it's audience don't get.
>> No. 443180 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 10:29 am
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>>443179
He tries to be anti-establishment as hinted at by his use of guy fawkes as a mascot but in reality he spends most of his time pumping out "LABUR HATE ARE CUNTRY" propaganda. Is that what you mean?
It worked for him when labour was in power but since 2010 it's just been a death spiral into tabloid level nonsense.
>> No. 443181 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 11:11 am
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>>443176
Why would someone leak this? That was my first thought when I heard this, why the fuck would you bother doing this? Are there actual Tory infiltrators in the party or is that wishful thinking on my part so I don't have to admit that my entire political outlook is tethered to the thickest, most self-serving, pack of fucking morons ever to grace British politics?
>> No. 443182 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 11:20 am
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>>443181

I think active mid-level people in labour are probably the kind who want to 'expose' the corruption in the system so badly they don't even think about the consequences.

They confuse disruption with 'making a difference'.
>> No. 443183 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 11:26 am
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>>443181
Is it worth including the possibility there wasn't much political meaning behind it at all and that some people just enjoy drama and chaos?
I'm not sure if that's the most likely possibility, or if i'm lying to myself because I find the idea of everyone being a clown more comforting than the idea of everyone being a clown.
>> No. 443185 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 11:58 am
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Very shrude tactic to die now. Popular opinion has been turning on the royal family. This should head that off.

(A good day to you Sir!)
>> No. 443186 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 12:21 pm
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>>443185

>Popular opinion has been turning on the royal family

Somebody unfoundedly pulling the race card on them isn't the same as "popular opinion turning".

I never liked Meghan, from day one. And really not at all because she's African-American, to use the most neutral term possible, but because she has no respect for the institution that is the Royal Family in this country. I can understand that somebody who grew up in Murrika is ambivalent at best towards concepts like monarchy or nobility. But if you are, then maybe it's not a good idea to get married to an actual prince (and not one from a Disney movie) in the first place.
>> No. 443187 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 12:24 pm
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>>443186
>because she has no respect for the institution that is the Royal Family in this country
Why should anyone? Frankly it's an embarrassment that they haven't all been quietly retired from public life.
>> No. 443188 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 12:36 pm
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>>443187

Near-enough two out of three Britons want to keep the Monarchy. Pretty much the only ones who have taken a noteworthy hit in popularity are Harry and Meghan themselves.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2021/03/12/public-opinion-harry-and-meghan-falls-new-low-afte
>> No. 443189 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 12:39 pm
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>>443188

Near-enough two out of three Britons are of below average IQ, what's your point?
>> No. 443190 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 12:44 pm
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>>443189

>Near-enough two out of three Britons are of below average IQ

You leave me no doubt.
>> No. 443191 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 12:50 pm
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>>443186
Is it bad of me that I don't care for the royals at all but I have a knee-jerk distaste for marrying in an American? When you tell me that Catholics can't be royals I'm discomforted, but were you to propose we ban Americans I'd be quite for it.
I know it'll probably sound like some kind of racist dogwhistle, but it's nothing like that. Well, it's quite prejudiced against Americans, obviously - but it's nothing racial. The royal family are the head of a massive multiethnic commonwealth and I'd be all for them marrying in a way that more accurately reflects that commonwealth's makeup - but that sort of makes me more steadfast in my view: You've got an entire commonwealth of wonderful people out there and you married a yank? Edward VIII had to abdicate for that...

Normally being a right-on lefty kind of person, I'm not sure if this is merely an eccentric view, ordinary background anti-Americanism, or a genuinely nasty prejudice which is unacceptable to hold in the modern age.
I suppose it's hard to disentangle it all. I'm not "really" prejudiced against Americans, it's more like a political position that has probably come from the same slightly mad part of my mind that gives the impression of being secretly bitter we no longer have an Empire and so easily accept that America dominates the world in general and English language culture in particular.
>> No. 443192 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 12:54 pm
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>>443190

Yep. Some of them even bring up voting and opinion polls as though they're relevant to the monarchy.
>> No. 443193 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 1:02 pm
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>>443192
Any other Duke of Sussex would be 20 points ahead
>> No. 443194 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 1:03 pm
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>>443186

Well judging by the tone your post I would assume if the queen started ripping the heads off commoners and drinking their blood you would still be supportive.

I suspect if princes were being exposed as peadophiles you probably still wouldn't care.
>> No. 443195 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 1:05 pm
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>>443189
I don't think you know what average means. 2/3 is bigger than 1/2 by mathematical proof you are thick.
>> No. 443196 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 1:05 pm
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>>443193

I don't fancy their chances in the World Cup after losing one of their most lucrative sponsors though, Alan. The double whammy of losing their ex-Coach must also be weighing heavy on their minds as we prepare for the new season.
>> No. 443197 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 1:09 pm
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>>443195

I'm really sorry mate, I completely overestimated your intelligence when I said that. Go back and read it with the understanding that "near enough" is a vague enough qualifier to make your point irrelevant.
>> No. 443198 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 1:10 pm
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>>443191

I think it is like being brought up in religion you leave, even when you think you have untangled yourself from it, there are underlying concepts that somehow stick about what it 'ought to be' that you seem to care about.
>> No. 443199 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 1:14 pm
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>>443197
>I wasn't wrong coz I used weezle words.

I want to believe I missed the nod and the wink contained in your statement, I really do. But your aggressive defence leads me to conclude you were 100% serious and are deflecting now thick lad.
>> No. 443200 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 1:16 pm
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>>443199

Not my weasel words, I was mockingly using the same words that you, or the lad you share your brachronic masturbatorl with, used in >>443188.
>> No. 443201 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 1:19 pm
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>>443200

Ah fair enough lad I didn't read the post above because I assumed it was tripe. my bad.
>> No. 443202 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 1:26 pm
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>>443201

One out of two is near-enough right.
>> No. 443203 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 1:33 pm
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>>443172 I know right. People keep telling me there's a 4th but I think they mean the young indy TV show.
>> No. 443204 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 1:49 pm
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Friday's Primetime (7pm-11pm) viewers compared with Friday, April 2:
BBC1: -6%
ITV: -60%
BBC2: -65%
C4: -8.5%

The most-watched TV show on the day Prince Philip died: Gogglebox at nearly 4.2m views.
So much for those going red and blue, frothing white at the mouth. They weren't interested in it either.
>> No. 443205 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 1:50 pm
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>>443203
I think it's to avoid confusion with Independence Day, like how Windows skipped 9.
>> No. 443206 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 1:52 pm
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>>443191
Americans are very culturally dominant. If you support a diverse and multicultural society, you don't want the unstoppable force to overwhelm the other cultures that are just starting to blossom in its absence.

It's kind of like how I am somewhat less of a right-on lefty, hating when people promote multiculturalism in this country because it's always, always, either Indians, laplanderstanis or Poles. I find myself thinking, "Not these buggers again." Just once, I want to meet a Venezuelan or a Kazakh or an Uzbek or a Lithuanian or a Laotian. And it feels disingenuous to be told we have everyone in the world here when really the only outsiders we meet are the ones we've all met already.
>> No. 443208 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 2:00 pm
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>>443204
I mean, if you're still watching at 7pm you've probably seen it already. Do you have any statistics for, say, 5pm? Or 1pm?
>> No. 443209 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 2:05 pm
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>>443208
No, but I'm not making an argument based on absent statistics.
>> No. 443211 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 2:32 pm
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>>443191

I do sympathise, as another lefty (although a relatively non-PC one) I feel almost a complete indifference about the monarchy. I don't necessarily support them but I find it a peculiar chip people have on their shoulder when they vehemently oppose it.

I've generally no strong feelings either way when I hear criticism of ot from a European or fellow Brit, but when ever a Yank starts, my mind jumps right to "Hang on, you can keep your mouth shut, prick" and I feel deeply and instinctually defensive about it.

In fact I seem to recall that's the exact moment I went off Doug Stanhope when I was younger.
>> No. 443214 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 2:49 pm
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>>443211
I think I remember the exact Doug Stanhope routine you're talking about. It was on some Charlie Brooker programme, wasn't it? "Hold on, your country has kings and princesses? Do you also have wizards, and elves?" It's a moronic take but I did think it was pretty funny.

Probably eight or nine years ago, David Mitchell on some panel show made another observation which I supported a lot more. "If we get rid of the Queen, we'd have to give David Cameron a palace, and I don't like that."
>> No. 443215 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 3:09 pm
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>>443191
>The royal family are the head of a massive multiethnic commonwealth and I'd be all for them marrying in a way that more accurately reflects that commonwealth's makeup

I'm disappointed that royals don't seem to shack up anymore. There was a time when Harry could've potentially forced his way into being the next Japanese Emperor, forged a link with the Thai monarchy, legitimised some republic's former royals or even shacked up with one of the petty royals in the Commonwealth to generate a huge local following.

But no, he married a boat whore. Was he trying to bring America into the commonwealth but only a C-lister would agree to it?
>> No. 443216 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 3:26 pm
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>>443191
>The royal family are the head of a massive multiethnic commonwealth and I'd be all for them marrying in a way that more accurately reflects that commonwealth's makeup
Does seem odd to single out Meghan for that when the other one married a Brit. I think?
>> No. 443217 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 3:36 pm
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>>443214
>If we get rid of the Queen, we'd have to give David Cameron a palace
Well, would we, though?
>> No. 443218 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 3:54 pm
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>The BBC has received complaints about the amount of television coverage it gave to the Duke of Edinburgh's death.

>The broadcaster suspended planned scheduling across BBC One and BBC Two to air special coverage after the duke died at Windsor Castle on Friday, aged 99. The BBC later put a dedicated form on its website to allow viewers to complain about the TV coverage. Broadcasters such as Channel 4 and ITV also adjusted schedules after the news.

>The BBC declined to comment on the number of complaints it had received about its coverage. In an earlier statement, it said there would be "special coverage across all BBC networks to mark his life of extraordinary public service", with planned scheduling suspended.

>BBC Radio 4 and Radio 5 Live also aired special programming charting Prince Philip's life, while BBC Four was paused and displayed a message directing viewers to switch over for a "major news report". As a result of the rolling news coverage on Friday, the final of Masterchef, which was due to air at 20:30 BST on BBC One, was not aired.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56703437
>> No. 443220 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 3:56 pm
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I don't see why we would. I'm quite sure the head of state, assuming we even need one, could live in a, by international standards, modest house in London like the PM does. Or Chequers? Does the PM even go to Chquers anymore? I think May had some arms dealers round for dinner a few years back.
>> No. 443221 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 4:17 pm
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>>443217
The problem with getting rid of the monarchy is the root and branch reform that elevates the PM to a position of embodying the nation. It would end up similar to how Americans treat their president complete with an elaborate coronation ceremony.

It's inevitable, you get rid of the Crown and quickly hit the argument that we can't possibly have the symbol of British pomp living in a townhouse infested with mice. Things only escalate from there like some kind of self-moving stairs bringing whomever is stood at the bottom to a new destination. Some may argue that they can see or can use systems maps to know where we are heading but until we complete the cycle we will not know for sure and travelling back down would take great effort. And what if we don't move in time, will we be crushed under the giant gears of this machine?
>> No. 443222 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 5:09 pm
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>>443221
Look, all of this assumes the Prime Minister will assume the position of head of state. It doesn't necessarily have to be this way. For instance the Green Party's current policy is for the Speaker of the House to be the head of state.
>> No. 443223 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 5:19 pm
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If the head of state is meant to be a purely ceremonial role and the queen is allegedly noninterventionist it doesn’t matter who it is, the prime minister is already the head of the legislative and executive I don’t get peoples harrumph like they weren’t defacto ruling the country all along people seem to have additional imagined powers they would need over what they already do.

Stick one of the law lords in as head of state would be my alternative choice. it would be symbolic of the importance of the rule of law, and would easily be pompous enough to appease the royalists.
>> No. 443224 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 5:29 pm
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>>443223
>appease the royalists
Have you not been awake for past day? You can't appease these people and they're an overwhelming majority.
>> No. 443225 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 5:36 pm
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>>443224
Oh, are we doing that thing where if someone says they're in favour of something we pretend that means they're a frothing at the mouth zealot because there is no middle ground and everyone has to be at polar extremities?
>> No. 443227 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 5:47 pm
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>>443225
I'm not saying they'd strap bombs to themselves and become The Telegraph ISIS. However, there's barely any room in this country for a discussion about getting rid of the monarchy. I don't see how you wouldn't be publically pilloried for trying to force such a dicsussion. It's not an entirely British phenomenom, the Spanish had a certifable crook for a king and it doesn't seem to have caused much fuss. The powers that be are simply too deeply ingrained and most people are at best not arsed, at worst convinced a lady with a shiny hat is the only thing standing between them and the Socialist Republic of Gay Iranians in the Maghreb.
>> No. 443228 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 5:49 pm
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>>443221
Do you think we could give ourselves a governor general? Just pick some random civil servant and make them the queen's agent, only we don't have a queen.

It's the only type of constitution I find myself comfortable with. Presidencies are intolerable, Prime Ministers as head of state are undesirable, hereditary monarchies are objectionable, but having a local appointed as a middling civil servant who every so often goes along to have tea with dignitaries, notionally on behalf of a monarch half a planet away? I can live with that. What difference does it make if they are acting on behalf of an abolished monarchy in place of an active one?
>> No. 443229 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 5:51 pm
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>>443227
You could say that about most things. People keep going on about trans rights when the reality is that most people do not give a shit either way.

There's far more important things to worry about than the monarchy. I care more about whether there's potholes on the roads than whether we have a royal family.
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10th April 2021
Saturday 6:02 pm
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A touching tribute here at Scotch Corner.

I hope when I die I get a nice black and white photo on a big telly at a services.
>> No. 443231 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 6:03 pm
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>>443214

>"Hold on, your country has kings and princesses? Do you also have wizards, and elves?"

Goes to show the kind of Disneyfied alternate reality Americans live in.

I, for one, would welcome wizards and elves. Anything is better than the corrupt political system of the United States.


Fun fact: Walt Disney was a glowing antisemite and racist.
>> No. 443234 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 6:21 pm
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>>443230

I'd rather be on the advertising panels above the urinals.

>>443228

Ireland have got the right idea - their Presidency is an honorary role, awarded to the Irish citizen who looks most like a leprechaun.
>> No. 443235 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 7:44 pm
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Not to pick on all your ideas but I thought I should highlight how hard it is to just replace a monarchy:

>>443222
>the Green Party's current policy is for the Speaker of the House to be the head of state

And what could possibly go wrong with the head of state controlling Parliamentary debate and voting? Anyway, the reason it's normally assumed to be the PM is because the people making the choice will be sitting MPs. If it does go to a referendum then even then the party political machinery will still control the scope.

>>443223
We've actually not tested how far the Crown powers extend but I certainly wouldn't want to invest with the PM the ability to dissolve Parliament. There are ways around that but from a constitutional perspective you can see the advantage in having a nebulous yet apolitical factor that may intervene against any kind of takeover - although the Thai example is looking shoddy these days.

The most immediate problem I see with vesting power in the PM is the division it can make in society with a political figure at the top. I can't imagine a happy society with pictures of Johnson everywhere and it's not like we have a quasi-religious constitution to fall back on like the Americans.

>Stick one of the law lords in as head of state would be my alternative choice

Commons would veto any discussion of that on principle.

>>443228
Civil servants are there to implement the will of Parliament. You can see the problem this would create from a constitutional perspective. Then there's the question of how you actually control such an appointment because, fucking hell, we've certainly made a dog's breakfast of the House of Lords in recent history.
>> No. 443237 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 8:14 pm
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>>443231
I think he was just making a point about how absurd an hereditary head of state is. You see, sometimes comedians say silly things called "jokes" and I don't think that thing about Disney being a raging Jew hater is true either. What's all this one sentence, new paragraph bollocks too? Were you brought up or dragged up?
>> No. 443238 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 10:04 pm
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Lads...
>> No. 443239 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 10:04 pm
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>>443237

>I think he was just making a point about how absurd an hereditary head of state is

For most of human history, in most countries, it wasn't absurd. It was the way things were. And even if democracy was purportedly invented by the Greek long before Christ, it didn't take hold as a widespread form of govenrment until about the 17th century.

One remarkable exception were the German emperors of the mediaeval German Empire. They were actually elected, albeit not by the people, but by a group of about ten princes from all the empire's different kingdoms and principalities.
>> No. 443240 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 10:19 pm
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>>443239
>For most of human history, in most countries, it wasn't absurd. It was the way things were.
So was worshipping random animals, or the abstract concept of animals. So what?
>> No. 443242 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 11:12 pm
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>>443235
>from a constitutional perspective you can see the advantage in having a nebulous yet apolitical factor that may intervene against any kind of takeover.

I would say that is rather naive the only reason you don't see the problem is that you have never seen anyone abuse that position.
It is kind of like how Trump broke a load of political protocols that were never laws because it was unthinkable someone would act in such bad faith they never felt they needed to state the point. make no mistake that is a leviathan sitting on the throne.
>> No. 443243 Anonymous
10th April 2021
Saturday 11:28 pm
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>>443238
Hasn't there been a new variant since we last saw him before going into hospital?
>> No. 443244 Anonymous
11th April 2021
Sunday 12:29 am
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>>443238
Well, he's done his bit to fight overpopulation now! In other news, DMX apparently had 15 kids.

I would also like to make it clear I have not yet seen any confirmation that Prince Philip really said that, although I certainly hope he did.
>> No. 443245 Anonymous
11th April 2021
Sunday 1:01 am
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>>443240

Might has always made right, and in earlier times the biggest dicked hard-case who fought his way to the top got to be king. The descendants of those people are today's aristocracy. There's nothing absurd about it, it's a perfectly natural chain of events when you think about it.

We may have advanced past scrapping over farmland and giving the winner a shiny hat to make them the ruler, but in reality, not by much. Today's leaders of big business and industry arguably have much more power than leaders of government or heads of state anyway, and the same might-makes-right principle applies.

When Elon Musk gets to Mars, there's not much you can do to stop him calling himself the King of Mars. The only reason he won't is branding.
>> No. 443246 Anonymous
11th April 2021
Sunday 8:40 am
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>>443242
Story time: A big part of the reason Greece is a republic today is that their king managed to bugger everything up by meddling.
First he broke the legitimate government in 1965 by sacking the PM and appointing someone else from the same party, which ultimately made parliament unworkable as nobody he picked could win a confidence vote, so elections were called in 1967.
But it looked like the elections could leave the government dependent on support from the left, so the right wingers and the army got antsy and launched a coup. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_junta#Coup_d'%C3%A9tat_of_21_April
The government asked the king to intervene against the coup, but he declined and appointed a coupist Prime Minister.

Then he got cold feet (or if you take his word for it, had always planned this) and tried to launch a counter coup, which was even more botched than his parliamentary meddling. In stark contrast to his assumption that all he had to do was give the word and people would listen because he was the King, the Junta started taking the piss out of him while lower ranking soldiers arrested their loyalist generals. So he fled to Rome and the Junta carried on governing like nothing had happened.
In 1973 when it started to come to bits they held a referendum on ditching the monarchy, which passed. After it had come to bits (following a botched coup in Cyprus with the intention of unifying it with Greece) there were genuinely free elections in 1974, they held another referendum which rejected re-establishing the monarchy.
And after all that trouble, is it hard to imagine why?
>> No. 443247 Anonymous
11th April 2021
Sunday 9:36 am
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>> No. 443249 Anonymous
11th April 2021
Sunday 10:41 am
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>>443245
>When Elon Musk gets to Mars, there's not much you can do to stop him calling himself the King of Mars. The only reason he won't is branding.

You fucking think?

>Elon Musk changes job title to 'Technoking of Tesla'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-56404583
>> No. 443250 Anonymous
11th April 2021
Sunday 11:06 am
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>>443246

Thanks for story time I shall use it in reference for future discussions about the benevolence of monarchies.
>> No. 443252 Anonymous
11th April 2021
Sunday 12:58 pm
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>>443246
Moral of the story: Without Phillip around to remind Queenie about what happened in Greece, we're fucked.
>> No. 443253 Anonymous
11th April 2021
Sunday 1:53 pm
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Prince Andrew is appearing on the news again, explaining how it feels to be a bereaved royal. Good for him, but I thought he'd been removed from public view permanently? Isn't he a wanted fugitive?

Do you think it was Prince Philip's idea to keep him out of sight, and now he's coming back?
>> No. 443254 Anonymous
11th April 2021
Sunday 3:00 pm
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>>443252

The Spanish monarchy isn't doing much better. Our Royal Family can still learn from it what not to do:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/03/spains-former-king-juan-carlos-faces-new-corruption-allegations

>Spain’s attorney general has instructed supreme court prosecutors to investigate new corruption allegations against the country’s disgraced former king.

>Juan Carlos, who abdicated in 2014, is already under investigation over his alleged role in a deal under which a Spanish consortium won a €6.7bn (£5.9bn) contract to build a high-speed rail line in Saudi Arabia.
>> No. 443255 Anonymous
11th April 2021
Sunday 3:13 pm
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>>443240
Are you really just saying that all modes of human organisation based on abstraction are absurd?

>>443242
>I would say that is rather naive the only reason you don't see the problem is that you have never seen anyone abuse that position.

It's perfectly possible for Parliament to depose the monarch - we have the Glorious Revolution as an example. If we're talking more standard form then it's standard form and not unique to whether the executive has a hat but rather on who has influence over them.

>>443253
He's notoriously spoiled as the Queen's favourite and momma's boy. Probably taking the chance to rehabilitate himself given he now only has Charles to be afraid of who wouldn't say boo to a goose. I hope someone calls him a carpet-bagger on air.
>> No. 443256 Anonymous
11th April 2021
Sunday 3:47 pm
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>>443253
It's hard to avoid the public eye when his father has died. Andrew and Edward were both at the same church service today but nobody cares to report on what Edward had to say because he's so dull.

He's got a dull looking wife and his daughter is 18 in a few months but you'd feel like a right paedo thinking about her in that way. Compare and contrast that with Andrew. You get a reaction out of seeing him, even if that is just thinking "God, what an odious toad". Same for his odious ex-wife and his gargoyle children.
>> No. 443257 Anonymous
11th April 2021
Sunday 3:54 pm
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>>443256

>but you'd feel like a right paedo thinking about her in that way

Speak for yourself m8.
>> No. 443258 Anonymous
11th April 2021
Sunday 4:03 pm
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>>443257
I'll freely admit that I had very questionable thoughts when watching Bridge to Terabithia and also when Paris Jackson was about 14/15 but Louise Windsor looks far too young for that sort of thing.
>> No. 443259 Anonymous
11th April 2021
Sunday 4:44 pm
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>>443256
Is that her in the picture? Not knowing who she is, she looks literal decades older than 17. She could be the other woman's sister rather than daughter.
>> No. 443260 Anonymous
11th April 2021
Sunday 5:02 pm
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>>443259

Do you spend much time at all observing actual humans? in a non-creepy way


>>443255

>It's perfectly possible for Parliament to depose the monarch

Depose a monarch or end the monarchy?

Even the Glorious Revolution didn't get rid of the monarchy as such.
>> No. 443261 Anonymous
11th April 2021
Sunday 5:44 pm
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>The BBC has taken down an online form used to process complaints about blanket coverage of Prince Philip’s death after the number of complaints reached a peak. Planned scheduling has been back in place since 2pm on Saturday, after BBC One and BBC Two cleared their schedules to simulcast more than 24 hours of programmes about the Duke of Edinburgh.

>The corporation’s decision to axe Friday night staples in favour of pre-recorded tributes prompted so many complaints it opened the dedicated form on its website to process them. The use of such a form was a standard BBC approach to deal with complaint volumes on a temporary basis, the Guardian understands. A fortnightly bulletin of all complaints is due to be published on Wednesday.

>Viewers switched off their TVs in droves after broadcasters aired blanket coverage of Philip’s death, audience figures revealed on Saturday. Ratings for BBC One, traditionally the channel to which Britons turn at moments of national significance, were down 6% on the previous week, according to analysis of viewing figures by Deadline. BBC Two lost two-thirds of its audience, with an average of only 340,000 people tuning in at any time between 7pm and 11pm. ITV also experienced a drop after it ditched its Friday night schedule to broadcast tributes to the duke.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/apr/11/bbc-pulls-prince-philip-online-form-after-complaints-hit-peak
>> No. 443262 Anonymous
11th April 2021
Sunday 5:45 pm
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>>443259

Posh teenagers simultaneously look 12 and 42. They have a slightly otherworldly quality, being extremely naive and incredibly mature by the standards of normal people. They wouldn't know how to order a drink in a pub, but they know the right wine to pair with confit de canard. They don't know what a pint of milk costs, but they know how to diversify an investment portfolio. They could navigate Heathrow Airport unassisted by the time they were eight, but they can't read the Tube map.
>> No. 443263 Anonymous
11th April 2021
Sunday 5:58 pm
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>>443261
Prince Harry was right to leave. His grandfather, effectively the King of England except for certain outmoded loopholes of terminology, died, while we were all wishing for him to pull through for a few more months at least, and the BBC gets swarmed with hate for covering it too much. Fuck everyone. Imagine living a life like that, and the only way to escape is to flee the country with Meghan Markle. This must be how those people who jumped out of the World Trade Centre felt.
>> No. 443264 Anonymous
11th April 2021
Sunday 6:06 pm
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>>443260
>Depose a monarch or end the monarchy?

Both given that Parliament can do what it wants.

>>443259
She's a kid dressed up in adult funeral attire. Quasi-carpet-baggers the lot of you.
>> No. 443265 Anonymous
11th April 2021
Sunday 6:06 pm
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>>443260
>Depose a monarch or end the monarchy?

Both given that Parliament can do what it wants.

>>443259
She's a kid dressed up in adult funeral attire. Quasi-carpet-baggers the lot of you.
>> No. 443266 Anonymous
11th April 2021
Sunday 6:11 pm
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>>443263
>Prince Harry was right to leave.. and the BBC gets swarmed with hate for covering it too much.
Yes, I'm sure Harry's devastated at how unsupportive people are being of the media's coverage of his family. That's definitely one of the things that motivated him to leave.
>> No. 443267 Anonymous
11th April 2021
Sunday 6:27 pm
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>>443266

Harry left because Meghan messed with his head after she pissed off the entire Royal Family, and he didn't have the sense to dump her sorry arse.

Why does everybody keep making excuses for Meghan. She's just a self-centered, conniving bint who's dragging everybody down with her. It's never her, is it. It's always somebody else.

I give their marriage another year or two, and then the prodigal son will be back knocking on the door at Buckingham.
>> No. 443268 Anonymous
11th April 2021
Sunday 6:28 pm
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>>443265
I don't think anyone has said they fancy her. I think that's just you. Maybe I would if she showed up on my doorstep with her mum's ID, offering me some regal MILF poon, but I'm not in any hurry to mountess that countess.
>> No. 443269 Anonymous
11th April 2021
Sunday 6:30 pm
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>>443267

You are far too fucking concerned with the plot of this period drama.
>> No. 443270 Anonymous
11th April 2021
Sunday 7:39 pm
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>>443267
I thought Harry left because he fell out with William after his secret affair with Rose Hanbury?
>> No. 443282 Anonymous
12th April 2021
Monday 5:54 pm
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So Meghan is staying stateside and won't attend the funeral, on doctor's orders because she's 33 weeks pregnant.

Not saying that it's a bad idea to heed that advice. But it gives her a convenient reason.
>> No. 443284 Anonymous
12th April 2021
Monday 6:02 pm
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>>443282
That's yesterday's news. Today's news is that palace officials are shitting themselves about Prince Andrew exploiting Philip's death to try and worm his way back into royal duties.
>> No. 443292 Anonymous
12th April 2021
Monday 6:47 pm
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>>443282
>33 weeks
>convenient reason

Get the fuck back to the Mail and don't ever darken our door ever again you prick.
>> No. 443293 Anonymous
12th April 2021
Monday 6:49 pm
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>>443284

>Prince Andrew exploiting Philip's death to try and worm his way back into royal duties.

He has his selling points. His knowledge of Greater London pizza places is uncanny.
>> No. 443294 Anonymous
12th April 2021
Monday 6:52 pm
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>>443293

I've heard he prefers the one on Connecticut Avenue in Washington DC.
>> No. 443295 Anonymous
12th April 2021
Monday 7:10 pm
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>>443293
Woking isn't Greater London.
>> No. 443296 Anonymous
12th April 2021
Monday 7:38 pm
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>>443295
Not with that attitude it isn't.
>> No. 443300 Anonymous
13th April 2021
Tuesday 12:04 am
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>>443295
Even Guildford is part of London now.
>> No. 443302 Anonymous
13th April 2021
Tuesday 1:15 am
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>> No. 443303 Anonymous
13th April 2021
Tuesday 6:47 am
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The number of complaints about the blanket coverage of his death is meant to be revealed on Thursday, but it has been reported at more than 110,000.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-56721078
>> No. 443305 Anonymous
13th April 2021
Tuesday 9:09 am
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>>443302
Pff if only you could get a decent curry in the East Midlands.
>> No. 443307 Anonymous
13th April 2021
Tuesday 9:40 am
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>>443303
They should publish all their names and addresses so they can be dealt with like the traitors they are.
>> No. 443308 Anonymous
13th April 2021
Tuesday 12:03 pm
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>>443303

The most interesting part to me is that there are 100,000 people who still watch live broadcasts who aren't old enough to be fierce royalists who consider it a matter of duty to only discuss this all day, unless I have massively misjudged what old people are like now days, or how many young people watch TV and like to complain about nothing.

Is this just boredom during the pandemic, people complaining for the sake of it because it became vogue on twitter? or has the Fahrenheit 451 dystopia started its endgame?
>> No. 443309 Anonymous
13th April 2021
Tuesday 12:09 pm
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>>443308
I think all you had to do to complain was visit a page on their website, put in your email address and click submit. I imagine with other complaints there's a lot more steps involved.
>> No. 443311 Anonymous
13th April 2021
Tuesday 1:28 pm
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>>443308

>Is this just boredom during the pandemic

A lot of people are still at home all day, and they get crabby when they don't get their usual afternoon fix of tittytainment.
>> No. 443312 Anonymous
13th April 2021
Tuesday 2:05 pm
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>>443308

Johnny Rotten is a pensioner.
>> No. 443313 Anonymous
13th April 2021
Tuesday 2:06 pm
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>>443311
DID SOMEONE SAY TIDDYTAINMENT?
>> No. 443319 Anonymous
13th April 2021
Tuesday 3:21 pm
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>>443313

Begone Thot.
>> No. 443329 Anonymous
13th April 2021
Tuesday 8:31 pm
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>>443308
It's seething pussy-ass bitches throwing a paddy because they didn't get to watch MasterChef. Nothing of value was lost. Fuck every last person who complained.
>> No. 443331 Anonymous
13th April 2021
Tuesday 8:32 pm
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>>443313
I actually said biddytainment, in respect to Her newly-single Majesty, but this is much better.
>> No. 443332 Anonymous
13th April 2021
Tuesday 8:34 pm
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>>443329

>Nothing of value was lost

Well you got that part right.
>> No. 443335 Anonymous
13th April 2021
Tuesday 9:08 pm
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>>443329
I don't really watch TV, but I was so confused yesterday when people were complaining about cancelled shows on Friday (especially Masterchef).

They were mostly 40+ years old (and mostly women).
>> No. 443340 Anonymous
13th April 2021
Tuesday 11:06 pm
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Seems hypocritical to mock people for missing television when the last time this site went down you were all at a loss.
>> No. 443341 Anonymous
13th April 2021
Tuesday 11:17 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu-3qR-nQQU
Not the best of them. But... timing.
>> No. 443345 Anonymous
14th April 2021
Wednesday 12:44 am
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>>443340
I wasn't posting here then. I'm new. And, same as for the fans of Masterchef, there's always Pornhub.
>> No. 443348 Anonymous
14th April 2021
Wednesday 12:49 am
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>>443345
Does PornHub have any half-decent cookery content?
>> No. 443349 Anonymous
14th April 2021
Wednesday 1:13 am
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>>443348

Rule 34.

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5f2ca4d77c534
>> No. 443362 Anonymous
15th April 2021
Thursday 5:00 pm
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>>443312
Fuck me he's let himself go. Must have been overdoing it on the Country Life.
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17th April 2021
Saturday 8:04 am
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Still wouldn't.
>> No. 443379 Anonymous
17th April 2021
Saturday 8:40 am
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>>443377
That's one of those jumpers they give you if you're locked up in a police station and complain about being cold enough.
>> No. 443380 Anonymous
17th April 2021
Saturday 9:36 am
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>>443379
ThE rOyAl FaMiLy Is LiKe BeInG iN pRiSoN.
>> No. 443381 Anonymous
17th April 2021
Saturday 1:07 pm
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>>443380

So is your orthography.
>> No. 443383 Anonymous
17th April 2021
Saturday 2:59 pm
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I've caught a bit of the funeral. The Queen is looking very old and frail now, I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't last much longer.
>> No. 443384 Anonymous
17th April 2021
Saturday 3:03 pm
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>>443383

She's 94.

Also I reckon I'd look a bit frail at my husband's funeral too.
>> No. 443385 Anonymous
17th April 2021
Saturday 3:13 pm
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>>443383
Because as we all know, women are always glowing the week after losing the only man they've ever loved. Just think of all the extra space she can enjoy in bed and the pleasure of eating in absolute silence.
>> No. 443386 Anonymous
17th April 2021
Saturday 3:41 pm
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It's the first time I've ever seen her looking diminutive.
>> No. 443389 Anonymous
17th April 2021
Saturday 6:19 pm
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Why do topless climate protestors tend to haggard old women?
>> No. 443390 Anonymous
17th April 2021
Saturday 6:23 pm
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>>443389
If that's what this looks like to you, then you watch too much porn and have unrealistic expectations of women's bodies.
>> No. 443391 Anonymous
17th April 2021
Saturday 6:30 pm
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>>443390
They weren't the ones getting their wabs out at the funeral.
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17th April 2021
Saturday 6:32 pm
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>>443391
You weren't asking about that.
>> No. 443394 Anonymous
17th April 2021
Saturday 7:20 pm
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>>443392
Army recruitment must be getting bad, they'd let any old tit join the SAS these days.
>> No. 443395 Anonymous
17th April 2021
Saturday 7:24 pm
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17th April 2021
Saturday 7:33 pm
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>>443386
I didn't see it on TV, but how's this for a sad picture?

>>443392
I should have watched it if they were on it. What are they protesting? Why aren't they protesting somewhere else? A-are they still there now? Can I go there?
>> No. 443398 Anonymous
17th April 2021
Saturday 9:53 pm
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>>443397
Sorry, those are photos from last year.
>> No. 443399 Anonymous
17th April 2021
Saturday 10:26 pm
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>>443392

I've always wanted to lock a woman to a fence by the neck and fuck them.
>> No. 443400 Anonymous
18th April 2021
Sunday 12:12 am
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>>443102
This has cheered me up no end. Top remembrancing.
>> No. 443403 Anonymous
18th April 2021
Sunday 7:15 am
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>>443400
It's what he would have wanted.
>> No. 443404 Anonymous
18th April 2021
Sunday 10:01 pm
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>>443400

About time people get out of lockdown.
>> No. 443405 Anonymous
19th April 2021
Monday 12:00 am
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>>443400

RIP SWEET PRINCE YR NOW WITH THE ANGLES N SAXONS
>> No. 443492 Anonymous
27th April 2021
Tuesday 7:44 am
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Prince Andrew set up firm with disgraced Coutts financier Harry Keogh

The Duke of York has gone into business with a former Coutts banker who quit in disgrace over allegations of sexual harassment.

Prince Andrew has set up a company with Harry Keogh, who left the Queen’s bank in March 2018 after he was accused of touching a female colleague inappropriately and boasting about his sexual exploits. The new venture, which The Times understands will be a vehicle for Andrew’s family investments, is named Lchronic masturbatorles after the 18th-century battle against the French in which the British were commanded by the Duke of York.

At Coutts he was accused of touching a woman’s groin while demonstrating the site of an injury. His behaviour was said to be so toxic that some female staff refused to work with him. The private bank carried out an investigation in 2015 and the chief executive recommended he leave, according to The Wall Street Journal. It was decided that he should stay, but he was disciplined and eventually resigned in March 2018.


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/prince-andrew-set-up-firm-with-disgraced-coutts-financier-harry-keogh-xm6l0z20t

He sure knows how to pick them.
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27th April 2021
Tuesday 10:18 am
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>>443492
Probably the only kind of person willing to work with him at the moment. Although I don't really know why he needs a vehicle for family investments unless he's trying to hide assets before Charles gets to the throne.

>named Lchronic masturbatorles after the 18th-century battle against the French in which the British were commanded by the Duke of York.

That got me on first glance.

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