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>> No. 460632 Anonymous
9th October 2023
Monday 10:18 am
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New weekday thread.

How's it going, lads?
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>> No. 460633 Anonymous
9th October 2023
Monday 2:06 pm
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Just had to console a friend who got caught speeding this morning. She said she was doing roughly 45 in a 30 mph zone when she saw the flash of a speed camera. Depending on the inaccuracy of her speedo and the accuracy of the speed camera, I told her she could end up narrowly avoiding a Band B offence.
>> No. 460634 Anonymous
9th October 2023
Monday 3:41 pm
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When your car is in for its MOT do you regularly visit the gov.uk MOT check page to see whether it's been tested yet?
>> No. 460635 Anonymous
9th October 2023
Monday 4:00 pm
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I hung some brand new white t-shirts next to my several years old white bed sheet earlier and felt disgust.
>> No. 460637 Anonymous
9th October 2023
Monday 7:33 pm
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>>460633
I think they give you the option of a speed-awareness course for the first time.
>> No. 460638 Anonymous
9th October 2023
Monday 8:37 pm
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>>460637

She said she's got no points on her licence so far. Apparently, this happened on an unfamiliar A road that looked like it should have been a 60 zone, but looking back in the mirror, she saw that it was a designated 30 zone. Probably close to a built up area or something.
>> No. 460639 Anonymous
9th October 2023
Monday 9:21 pm
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>>460635

Vanish Oxi Action is the tits. It's rescued some t-shirts that I thought were pit stained beyond repair.
>> No. 460640 Anonymous
9th October 2023
Monday 9:33 pm
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I don't mean to gloat but I'm so glad I don't have to work. Seeing my neighbours lit windows at night time makes me think of everything they have to go through in their menial jobs just to sustain this bedsit lifestyle (if it should even be called that). I pity them. We're living in comparative poverty and they're having to actually pay for it.
Maybe they pity me for not earning even a meager existance.

Someone call me a cunt and get this over with.
>> No. 460641 Anonymous
9th October 2023
Monday 9:39 pm
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>>460640

Dole scrounging is a hell of a lot more honourable than what a lot of people do for a living.


>> No. 460642 Anonymous
9th October 2023
Monday 10:04 pm
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>>460641
>Do they owe us a living?
>Course they do, course they do
What is this supposed to mean? That a person doesn't fit into the societal mold so that society must subsidise their lifestyle?
The world doesn't owe me shit - it feels degenerative to even entertain the idea, it's too easy a scapegoat.

>At school, they give you shit
Our science set in highscrool were given a plastic 'microscope' with a magnified printout to view through a fake lense. I would like to have complained, now. Infact I feel resentment of it.
>> No. 460643 Anonymous
9th October 2023
Monday 10:30 pm
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>>460642

>What is this supposed to mean? That a person doesn't fit into the societal mold so that society must subsidise their lifestyle?

I once witnessed a guy getting nicked for dodging bus fare. He tried to argue his way out of it by saying "What difference does it make if one more person rides the bus without paying. The bus will go either way". So the person nicking him said "If everybody thought like you, the buses wouldn't be going at all". To which the guy said "Yeah, but they don't. It's just me. So again, what difference does it make".

I felt enraged, but at the same time you couldn't say that he was 100 percent wrong. In some way, we're conditioned to think it's wrong, because you just can't have people freeloading, and it's a slippery slope, and all that.
>> No. 460644 Anonymous
10th October 2023
Tuesday 12:16 am
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>>460640
Well are you making a plan to get out of it or do you just want us to call you a dirty boy?
>> No. 460645 Anonymous
10th October 2023
Tuesday 12:54 pm
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>Warm weather last month delayed early sales of Christmas food such as puddings and seasonal biscuits, research suggests. Retail analysts Kantar said the sunny weather meant fewer people had started to stock up for the festive season.
>Instead, sales of ice cream, burgers and dips jumped as people continued to enjoy the sun and fire up barbecues. A separate survey also said that the warmer weather had put off people from buying autumn clothing.

Christmas means Christmas!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67062865

Looks like the reindeer botherers are on the ropes. Are we going to do a coordinated .gs boycott or have we already fucked it up with an October pack of mince pies?
>> No. 460646 Anonymous
10th October 2023
Tuesday 12:56 pm
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Amazon have emailed me a load of Prime Day exclusives, but they're advertising a monitor as more expensive than what they'd listed it as when I was shopping around for one last month.

>>460645
I've resisted the stollen and lebkuchen in Aldi so far.
>> No. 460647 Anonymous
10th October 2023
Tuesday 4:01 pm
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Had to bin an American podcast after Speaker's Corner was mentioned and they went into a whole comedy bit about town criers because they're American and don't know anything.
>> No. 460648 Anonymous
10th October 2023
Tuesday 8:29 pm
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If I sign up for a gym what kind of clothing should I wear and what's the etiquette while there? I don't want to make a faux pas.
>> No. 460649 Anonymous
10th October 2023
Tuesday 9:21 pm
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>>460648
Basic t-shirt, traccy bottoms/shorts and trainers. Get yourself some cheap breathable polyester t-shirts as your cottons will soak which gets minging if you're really pushing it. If you plan on doing a lot of cardio/sweating then I recommend a sweat band.

Don't wear a jumper (bro-science)
Don't take your shirt off
Don't spend a fuck-ton of money, it won't make you fitter

>what's the etiquette while there

1. The main rule is that nearly everyone wants to be in their own headspace at the gym so try not to be a distraction or get in anyone's way
2. Wipe the machine down when you're done (you can get a microfiber towel or some gyms have paper towel dispensers)
3. Don't throw the weights around or 'owt daft
4. If you're done on the machine then get off it
5. Scowl because there's a loud annoying minority who ruin it for everyone

Most people at the gym are nice. Ask for an introduction when you join to get your form down but if you're worried about a machine or need quick advice then you can always speak to an older looking big boy if the staff aren't around.

Is this why you lot aren't posting lately, too buy reinventing yourselves?
>> No. 460650 Anonymous
10th October 2023
Tuesday 9:24 pm
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>>460648

Everyone is a bit intimidated when they first start at a gym, but try not to worry too much. Everyone was a first-timer once, everyone's just trying to do their workout and the vast majority of gym-goers are friendly and helpful.

Wear anything you like as long as it's clean and comfortable - shorts or trackie bottoms and a t-shirt are fine. Proper gym clothes are made of breathable synthetics that don't get soggy with sweat, but they aren't essential.

You'll get a briefing from a member of staff when you first sign up. Listen to what they say and ask any questions you might have. If you're not sure how to use a piece of equipment, ask.

Have a towel with you, so you can wipe your sweat off the equipment when you've finished. Use any equipment for as long as you need to, but free it up as soon as you're finished because someone else might be waiting to use it. At busy times, be considerate about space and try to avoid hogging a machine or loitering in the walkways.

Don't be afraid to chat with people, but do leave people alone if they look like they want to be left alone. Women are often wary about being perved at or chatted up, so try to be respectful.
>> No. 460651 Anonymous
10th October 2023
Tuesday 10:40 pm
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>>460649>>460650
Thanks lads.
>> No. 460652 Anonymous
10th October 2023
Tuesday 10:41 pm
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>>460649
>Is this why you lot aren't posting lately, too bu[s]y reinventing yourselves?
I'm in Belgium so I can only post via VPN. I didn't realise I was holding this place together, although it's true that I am both prominent and hugely interesting. Thank you very much to the poster here who recommended Windscribe; it needs an account but it is free and it works wonderfully for my needs.
>> No. 460653 Anonymous
11th October 2023
Wednesday 12:12 am
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Modding Skyrim would be so easy if I had the computer from Minority Report. I don't think it would be better at anyting else, and it's probably not worth having an entire room of my house dedicated to comatose women, but for this one thing I'd appreciate it a whole bunch.

>>460652
Aren't VPNs that need an account a scam? I thought there was just some way to do a VPN on your own that was dead easy.
>> No. 460654 Anonymous
11th October 2023
Wednesday 10:46 am
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I've just listened to Bush's new single. For some reason I always get them muddled up with Ash. It didn't take long for it to click Ash are the ones I actually don't mind, like is probably too strong a word.
>> No. 460655 Anonymous
11th October 2023
Wednesday 2:18 pm
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Amateur Transplants have seemingly scrubbed all versions of "Northern Birds" from YouTube but haven't been able to get all the lyrics removed from the various websites that host such things.
>> No. 460656 Anonymous
11th October 2023
Wednesday 4:44 pm
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What the hell is James Cleverly in Israel for? "Hi, I'm the UK foreign secretary, I heard your family was murdered by Hamas gunmen over the weekend." Brilliant, Jim. How about you stick to Warhammers from now on?
>> No. 460657 Anonymous
11th October 2023
Wednesday 5:41 pm
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>>460656
"I've got to be seen as doing something. This is something."
>> No. 460658 Anonymous
11th October 2023
Wednesday 6:50 pm
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>>460656
They were murdered whether he goes there or not. He's there to see if anyone wants to buy any weaponry from the British military-industrial complex. He said he was going to offer it for free, but I would rather see it all go to Ukraine. Remember Ukraine? There's a war there too.
>> No. 460659 Anonymous
11th October 2023
Wednesday 7:08 pm
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>>460656
It might actually be an example of 4D Chess. Cleverly is so far the only politician anyone's heard use the term 'proportionate response' and the UK and US appear to have negotiated a safe corridor into Egypt.

Behind closed doors there might be an effort to stop Israel going into Gaza to burn it all down. Which given the mentalists who prop up Bibi might actually be on the cards.
>> No. 460660 Anonymous
11th October 2023
Wednesday 8:07 pm
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Can you kill God? I feel it is the only way to break out of the chains that bind me.
>> No. 460661 Anonymous
11th October 2023
Wednesday 9:40 pm
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>>460660

It's worth a try. I say go for it.
>> No. 460662 Anonymous
12th October 2023
Thursday 6:39 am
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When I'm drunk I like to give people compliments, but it's something I don't think I could do when I'm sober. The other day I saw a woman on a bike wearing a bold red coat with a matching hat and I really felt like telling her that was a fantastic combination, but I held myself back because I was too worried about coming across as weird.
>> No. 460663 Anonymous
12th October 2023
Thursday 7:21 am
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>>460662

If you feel like that sort of inhibition is having a negative impact on your life, it's definitely something you could work through with a therapist (or a decent self-help book on CBT).

Alternatively:


>> No. 460664 Anonymous
12th October 2023
Thursday 9:14 am
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Do chocolate stains come out? I was having a pain au chocolat and a warm splodge fell onto my lap. It's only joggers I'd never wear in public, but still.
>> No. 460668 Anonymous
12th October 2023
Thursday 12:26 pm
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My mum has very bad hearing and possible onset dementia, and did kind of a dolphin rape inadvertently today in the hospital. A nurselad with a strong accent was tending to her, and she said, "You're nice, where are you from?". And the lad said "Gabon, originally". And so my mum said l, "Oh that's nice, I always liked the baboons at the zoo". I was really struggling to contain myself not to burst out laughing, and found myself apologising profusely to Gabonlad. He said no problem but didn't look happy, but I guess that's the sort of thing you can expect with my mum now.
>> No. 460669 Anonymous
12th October 2023
Thursday 1:43 pm
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I don't think the entire chicken breast coated in BBQ sauce and fried in butter was good for me. But it has but the kibosh on the burgeoning desire to engage with my local takeway's buy one, get one free deal on pizzas, so in that sense it was the best of a bad situation.

>>460663
I still think that sketch is applicable to real life, whatever good sense tells me otherwise. It's only the preponderance of what I call "low-level" aklies in my family that stops me from trying it out for real.
>> No. 460670 Anonymous
12th October 2023
Thursday 1:48 pm
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I'm properly listening to System of a Down for the first time in about 20 years and the lyrics are just nonsense. Absolute nonsense. I have no idea how I never noticed this before, perhaps because the last time I listened to them I was a teenager and it was deep.
>> No. 460672 Anonymous
12th October 2023
Thursday 4:28 pm
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>>460670
I thought the same of their song Chick N' Stu but this lyric site explains its meaning quite well - https://genius.com/System-of-a-down-chic-n-stu-lyrics

What's weird is that their songs seem to have predicted my attitudes and beliefs as an adult - unless I was already predisposed to paranoia and conspiracy and simply grew into it (yeah, that makes more sense).
>> No. 460673 Anonymous
12th October 2023
Thursday 4:33 pm
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>>460670
They make sense but they're just oblique references to things that aren't that deep, really. RATM and Tool aged far better, for their lyrics and musicianship, respectively.
>> No. 460674 Anonymous
12th October 2023
Thursday 4:46 pm
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>>460672
>What's weird is that their songs seem to have predicted my attitudes and beliefs as an adult - unless I was already predisposed to paranoia and conspiracy and simply grew into it (yeah, that makes more sense).

They're not really saying anything profound, it's a very surface level "WAKE UP SHEEPLE" message they're getting across.

>>460673
I could never get into Tool, although I did quite like A Perfect Circle.
>> No. 460675 Anonymous
12th October 2023
Thursday 5:00 pm
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>>460673
I had a similar experiance with Marylyn Manson recently. Listening out of nostalgia, I'm not a quasi-carpet-bagger-enabler or whatever else he's being accused of now. There are some strong themes and some bangers but taken as whole the catalogue is all over the place quality-wise. And it's just so very, very Hollywood. Although I think a lot of it is just lost because it's the 2020s and we all listen to pop-music now.

>>460672
I had a similar experiance to Sugar when looking it up. Didn't realise there's a connection between artificial sweeteners and violent outbursts.
>> No. 460676 Anonymous
12th October 2023
Thursday 6:09 pm
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>>460675
For me Manson's best work was the second half of Mechanical Animals, when he went all Ziggy Stardust. I was never a huge fan but I went to see him when he was touring in 2003 and came back with a poster about 6ft tall of him being crucified, which I put on my bedroom wall. My mum loved that.
>> No. 460678 Anonymous
12th October 2023
Thursday 8:11 pm
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How do you shut up that voice in the back of your head that tells you you should feel guilty about wanking with your business laptop.

I always wipe it thoroughly afterwards, and by that I mean all the system traces and browser history. I'm self employed, so I've got no IT department to answer to.
>> No. 460679 Anonymous
12th October 2023
Thursday 8:38 pm
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>>460678
I can't remember the last time I watched porn that wasn't on my phone.
>> No. 460680 Anonymous
12th October 2023
Thursday 9:06 pm
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>>460678
Develop a louder voice in the back of your head that tells you you should feel guilty about not having a better personal laptop for your wanking.

You're self-employed, you can expense that shit, you've got no excuse.
>> No. 460681 Anonymous
12th October 2023
Thursday 9:14 pm
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>>460680

Technically yes, I just haven't had the time for a new personal laptop. My old one is increasingly slow and the older it gets, the more it struggles with HD, let alone 4K. My business laptop is newer and more highly specced, so for the time being, it's my go-to.
>> No. 460682 Anonymous
12th October 2023
Thursday 11:03 pm
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I'm self-employed and I don't make a distinction between business and personal devices. It's my computer and I'll do what I like with it.
>> No. 460686 Anonymous
13th October 2023
Friday 11:32 am
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Just took a delivery and the driver had his car parked probably about 15 metres away from my door. His car radio was so loud I could hear every word being spoken by the reporter about Israel-Palestine, as clear as if I was listening through headphones. I get enjoying music enough to start turning it up and up, but not Radio 5 Live, that seems weird.
>> No. 460688 Anonymous
13th October 2023
Friday 2:45 pm
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I took a week off from .gs because all the rape stuff was getting a bit unbearable. Have you all calmed down now? Did I miss anything interesting in the meantime?

Apologies if you were all bored without my constant shitposting.
>> No. 460689 Anonymous
13th October 2023
Friday 3:27 pm
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>>460688
Holly's quit This Morning.
>> No. 460690 Anonymous
13th October 2023
Friday 3:51 pm
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>>460689
I dared not post about it here because, well, it's just awful isn't it? Her disapearence would have shocked the nation I reckon.
>> No. 460691 Anonymous
13th October 2023
Friday 3:58 pm
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>>460690
I don't know how credible a threat it actually was. I haven't paid much attention to it, but wasn't it basically some obese crackpot trying to recruit a hitman on online... well, I was going to say chatrooms but I don't know what people use these days.

It's only a matter of time before Vorderman is announced as the new presenter.
>> No. 460692 Anonymous
13th October 2023
Friday 4:14 pm
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>>460691
>It's only a matter of time before Vorderman is announced as the new presenter.
Then you get nicked and the whole thing starts all over again.

As for the Willoughby story, it was far-fetched, but planning in depth to kill someone still counts, even if the plan's shit.
>> No. 460693 Anonymous
13th October 2023
Friday 5:30 pm
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>>460692

What is this country coming to if you can't even plan to kill someone? Has this always been illegal? Where do we draw the line here? Aren't there entire Netflix shows about plotting and pulling off murders for 30-something ex-emo lasses to flick their bean at?

For years me and my mate would spend entire nights drinking and theorising about how we could plausibly kill David Cameron and get away with it. Should we be arrested and thrown in jail just because of our sincere desire to end the life of then-current Prime Minister, or is it all different just because we'd have been too lazy to actually go through with it? We still meant it.

Just sounds like another slippery slope from the authoritarian woke mob to me.
>> No. 460694 Anonymous
13th October 2023
Friday 6:32 pm
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>>460693

>What is this country coming to if you can't even plan to kill someone? Has this always been illegal? Where do we draw the line here?

It's all in the Criminal Attempts Act of 1981. As a consequence, researching online how to best kill somebody is not yet a crime. It will not look good if your plan succeeds and you get caught for a death you've caused deliberately, as it could be used to prove intent and therefore murder. But on its own, it's not a crime. Attempted murder means you went far beyond researching how to kill somebody, by making an actual attempt to cause that person to die.

Another example, buying a knife in a shop for the sole purpose (in your mind) of stabbing somebody to death still isn't illegal. The threshold is crossed the moment you start actually physically lunging the knife at somebody with the intent of causing them deadly injuries. In which case, the fact that you went out and bought a knife just for that can again be used as a proof of (attempted) murder over manslaughter.
>> No. 460695 Anonymous
13th October 2023
Friday 8:00 pm
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>>460694

So if I send a message to a celebrity or member of parliament on Twitter saying I will strangle them to death in their sleep, let's say? It's not a crime until I actually have my hands around their throat, right?
>> No. 460696 Anonymous
13th October 2023
Friday 8:14 pm
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>>460695

No, that's different. You're making a threat to kill somebody. That's a separate offence and punishable in its own right.
>> No. 460697 Anonymous
13th October 2023
Friday 8:22 pm
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>>460696

Oh right, okay, okay.

So what if I go up to Jacob Rees Mogg in a public place and say "I am planning to drown the politician Jacob Rees Mogg in raw sewage" in front of him. It's not a threat, because I am using the third person. I'm just casually saying out loud how I intend to do that, and he happened to be there. Right?

Or is it more like with legally dodgy sex stuff like BDSM, where as long as you do it in private, it's okay?
>> No. 460698 Anonymous
13th October 2023
Friday 8:29 pm
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>>460697

>say "I am planning to drown the politician Jacob Rees Mogg in raw sewage"

That'd be an offence under Section 4 of the Public Order Act 1986. If you did it online, it'd be an offence under Section 127 of the Communications Act 2003.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1986/64/section/4

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/21/section/127
>> No. 460699 Anonymous
13th October 2023
Friday 8:33 pm
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>>460697

Threats can be made against an absent third person and still be an offence. You don't have to tell that person to their face.

A friend's son got a community sentence for making violent threats against a teacher he hated... in his whatsapp status message. Somebody spotted it and called the school, and they got the authorities involved. Nobody wants a school shooting, even if it was just an obscure empty threat by a misguided teenlad.
>> No. 460700 Anonymous
13th October 2023
Friday 8:35 pm
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>>460698

Is there a difference bwtween saying "I want to " versus "I'm planning to" for example? Is it any different to say it on Twitter or the local pub, versus saying it here, or in my mate's garden?

I am being quite facetious but at the same time it does feel like an infringement of basic liberty if I (and that one ultra-violentlad) can't talk about grotesquely harming conservative politicians on a small imageboard, which is for all intents and purposes about the same thing as just saying it to one of my mates over a beer.

(I'm deliberately using conservative politicians as a reference because it's surprisingly often lefties who are all aboard for this sort of thing and even sometimes seem to view the very concept of free speech as some sort of right wing dogwhistle. Very perplexing I think.)
>> No. 460701 Anonymous
13th October 2023
Friday 8:47 pm
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>>460700

Online, it would be for the court to decide whether your message had a "menacing character". In any real-life context other than a private house, the legal test would be whether "that person is likely to believe that such violence will be used or it is likely that such violence will be provoked". In either case, you're only safe from the law if it's clear to any reasonable person that you don't actually intend to commit violence or incite someone else to commit violence.

One of the key test cases for the Communications Act s.127 was R v Chambers. He was convicted of the offence for tweeting "Crap! Robin Hood airport is closed. You've got a week and a bit to get your shit together otherwise I'm blowing the airport sky high!!". That conviction was upheld at appeal, but later overturned by the High Court. Unless it's absolutely obvious that you're only joking, you're on shaky ground legally.
>> No. 460703 Anonymous
13th October 2023
Friday 9:11 pm
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>>460701

>Unless it's absolutely obvious that you're only joking, you're on shaky ground legally.

True. And even then, just don't. With the whole climate of militant daft woggery and public violence the last 20 years, authorities will err on the side of caution. And who can blame them. Would you want to be responsible for another bus bombing or school shooting because you didn't take somebody's threats seriously. And even if it becomes absolutely obvious in an investigation that you had neither the actual intent nor the means to put your threats into practice, we can't have people just doing those sorts of things.
>> No. 460704 Anonymous
13th October 2023
Friday 9:29 pm
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>>460703

I think it would be pretty interesting to see how the data holds up if we could somehow see how many daft militant wog acts were stopped because police responded to online threats, versus how many happened anyway, versus how many happened and the daft militant wogs weren't bloody thick enough to announce on Twitter that they're about to do a bombing.

Of course I understand the position it puts the authorities in to respond, or at least, be seen to respond, to this type of thing. But I have my doubts if it's actually an at all effective use of their time, especially when anyone you speak to nowadays who has had experience with the plod will remark how little they do about "real" (ie burglary, mugging, theft, and so on) crimes.
>> No. 460705 Anonymous
13th October 2023
Friday 9:41 pm
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Slightly concerned that my dream woman might be a flump in lingerie.

Don't prompt the AI with that, it might awaken something in me.
>> No. 460706 Anonymous
13th October 2023
Friday 10:19 pm
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>>460704

I don't think you can actually prevent many daft militant wog attacks by going after people who make threats on their facebook page or whatsapp status. It's probably a bit like people who kill themselves. Somebody who will keep whinging about how he hates life and just wants to end it all probably isn't the kind of person who'll do it. Speaking from experience in my own family, somebody may not give any obvious clues at all to the people around him, even when he's already got a section of rope in the boot of his car that he later verifiably used to hang himself.

daft militant wogs with even a minimum of sophistication will go out of their way to keep their plans secret, cover their tracks and obfuscate any traces of their actions. And I'm sure the bulk of countermilitant daft woggery work then still consists of keeping watch on people who raise flags and/or fit a profile, and infiltrating potential daft militant wog groups. None of the 9/11 daft militant wogs or 7/7 bombers had announced their plans on their geocities webring or their facebook page (can you imagine an Al-Quaeda webring). I know that since Anders Breivik's attacks in Norway, authorities in most countries keep a closer eye on people buying hazardous substances in bulk, and by following those leads, that's probably one way of how they catch people today who are actually planning a daft militant wog attack.

Then again, on paper, Breivik was a registered vegetable farmer. The buying of ammonium nitrate wasn't regulated in Norway at the time, but ordering bags of it under the pretense of using them for his growing business probably helped him stay under the radar even more.
>> No. 460709 Anonymous
14th October 2023
Saturday 8:33 am
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>Lisa Cameron, the SNP MP who defected to the Conservative party on Thursday, said she and her family have been forced to go into hiding in Scotland after she was threatened with being “bricked” in the street.

>Cameron, her husband and their two daughters have moved to a secret location in the Scottish countryside after the MP was emailed threats of violence, including “I hope someone throws a brick at you in the street”, “I hope you burn” and “Think your mental health is bad now – wail til you see what abuse and nastiness yer [sic] going to have to put up with”.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/oct/13/lisa-cameron-snp-mp-who-defected-to-tories-forced-into-hiding

>The family of Captain Sir Tom Moore say they have received death threats and been left feeling "devastated" by negative reactions to them. Speaking on TalkTV's Piers Morgan Uncensored, the captain's daughter said: "There is a forum… they were all discussing how they were going to come and kill us all in our beds."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-67099214

So do these counts as actual threats or not?
>> No. 460711 Anonymous
14th October 2023
Saturday 9:23 am
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>>460709

Legally, it doesn't matter. Section 127 of the Communications Act 2003 states (in part):

A person is guilty of an offence if he sends by means of a public electronic communications network a message or other matter that is grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character.

All of those messages seem to be quite obviously menacing, in the plainest sense of the word. "I hope someone throws a brick at you in the street" might be playful banter if it's between friends, but it would obviously be menacing if a stranger said it to you. Whether the police have the resources to investigate or the CPS have the resources to prosecute is another matter, but all the quotes you've given clearly meet the threshold for prosecution and all of those people are at risk of being made an example of.
>> No. 460721 Anonymous
14th October 2023
Saturday 2:27 pm
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>>460711

> indecent, obscene

That sounds a bit wishy washy. It could be almost anything.
>> No. 460728 Anonymous
14th October 2023
Saturday 5:54 pm
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>>460721
The House of Commons Library contains a book that enumerates all the things that are illegal to say. It's not published more widely because, obviously, that would be obscene.
>> No. 460729 Anonymous
14th October 2023
Saturday 6:47 pm
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>>460728
Then it must be in the British Library. Someone determined enough could export that writing.
>> No. 460730 Anonymous
14th October 2023
Saturday 6:49 pm
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>>460728

That almost seems like a breach of nulla poena sine lege certa.
>> No. 460760 Anonymous
16th October 2023
Monday 8:22 am
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At least the cold snap means my tap water is more refreshing.
>> No. 460761 Anonymous
16th October 2023
Monday 9:45 am
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I've begun to notice that after heavy rain the weather becomes noticible cooler, as though it's kicking down a gear from summer, one storm at a time. Only 2 weeks ago it was roughly 19 degrees at night, now it's down to 15 where I'm at.
I've never noticed these cooling milestones before.
According to what I've been told here, I guess the rain literally cools the earth. It's somewhat difficult for me to believe it like that, to be honest. For some reason I doubt the earth can actually hold that level of heat .. but then again it is under the sun all day every day, so yeah.
>> No. 460762 Anonymous
16th October 2023
Monday 9:48 am
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None of you have ever mentioned studying or practicing law, so I can only assume you're regularly in the dock as the accused and that's where you got all this legal knowledge.

>>460760
Big coats, big socks, big fun. I had a few years of enjoying the Summer months more, but I've gone one-eighty and I'm back repping the Winter massive now.
>> No. 460765 Anonymous
16th October 2023
Monday 11:09 am
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>>460760
In the summer hot summer the other year I got in the habit of chilling water in the fridge - I even bought a special carafe for the purpose. But now I can't go back to regular tap water. It's like luke warm dog piss now.
>> No. 460766 Anonymous
16th October 2023
Monday 2:19 pm
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As well as collecting fluff in my bellybutton, it's now starting to gather where my shoulders meet thanks to my ever increasing back hair.
>> No. 460770 Anonymous
16th October 2023
Monday 7:44 pm
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I've always lived in relatively modern places where I take good heating and insulation for granted, so it's weird when I read all the rudgwick posts about people living like it's the 1890s and talking about how they spend the winter sat wearing mittens with hot water bottles down their jumper. But now I live in a bit of an outdated 70s ex-council flat, so I'm going to have to strategise. Min/max my heating, you could say.

I'm going to try and make it through only turning half the radiators on. I'll only be heating my bedroom, living room, and office. The kitchen and bathroom will get pretty cold, they already are, but it's a waste of money running the heating in those rooms all the time anyway. Not only do I spend the least time in them, but they seem to have the worst insulation, the weakest radiators, and I can keep the rest of the place noticeably warmer just by keeping their doors shut. Besides the heat from the cooker is plenty if I'm cooking, and I'm only ever in the bathroom for 5-10 minutes at a time.

It's not quite half the power usage but maybe 3/5ths as much if I have the ones in the kitchen, bathroom and hallway on, so unless prices jump again I should start to get the bill down compared to last year. I just hope I won't have to cave and turn the rest of the heaters on if it gets really nasty in January and February.
>> No. 460771 Anonymous
16th October 2023
Monday 8:57 pm
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>>460770
I am warm enough after walking home from work that I still haven't put my heating on. I did put on slippers, but that worked out a treat when there was a massive spider two inches from my foot in the kitchen and I was armed and ready to stomp on it.

I paid £3250 for a new boiler in June/July. I will be grateful at some point, but right now, this is the time of year when I feel like I could have just thrown that money in the bin.
>> No. 460772 Anonymous
17th October 2023
Tuesday 11:00 am
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>>460771
My new boiler just failed the first time it was asked to run the radiators. It's been running hot water fine for its 3 months, but it can't respond to requests for radiator heat. Arse. I've just been on the phone answering inane questions that I understand the need for, and would be delighted if I was just being a fuckwit somehow, but it does seem to not be working. And it's so thoroughly under warranty that I can't really fiddle.
>> No. 460773 Anonymous
17th October 2023
Tuesday 12:08 pm
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>>460772

I had a similar problem a while ago here. It turned out the 3-way valve was stuck. It can happen over the warm months, when you don't need the radiators and the valve motor doesn't move the valve. It can happen even on a newly installed valve, if they didn't flush the system before installing your new boiler and you've still got years of gunk in it. Which they often don't do because it can take hours.

You can check yourself without voiding your warranty. Shut off the boiler's mains switch and look for the 3-way valve unit, which should look similar to picture related. Unscrew the motor on top of it with your hand, and then use the flat side of a large flathead screwdriver to try to push down the valve pin, which will have a spring around it. The valve pin should spring back with ease. If it doesn't, then take the time to keep pushing the pin in and out for a few minutes, until it moves freely with little force.

Put the motor back on, turn on the boiler mains switch, and see if warm water now flows into the radiators. If it doesn't, then it could be that the valve motor has burned out due to the stuck valve pin. It should be covered under your warranty.
>> No. 460774 Anonymous
17th October 2023
Tuesday 12:25 pm
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I've just done about 50 star jumps followed by 20 squats. I could do with creating an exercise jroutine for when I'm WFH. Maybe I should get one of those keep fit DVDs.
>> No. 460775 Anonymous
17th October 2023
Tuesday 12:39 pm
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>>460774

Last year I got in a good routine of push ups and sit ups, and within just a couple of months I could feel a difference. My grilfriend was a skinny ex-druggie street rat who barely weighed anything, but I went from struggling to pick her up at all, to being able to carry her in one arm and really throw her about when we fucked.

Do bodyweight stuff like push ups, and the inverse where you pull yourself up underneath a desk. Fill some empty milk jugs with water and use them as makeshift weights to add resistance when you do your routine. I eventually bought some actual weights and resistance bands, but you can do a very reasonable fitness routine that actually makes a difference without spending a penny.

Obviously I'm not built like Schwarzenegger or anything from basic exercise like that, but the difference between skinnyfat couch potato and where I'm at now is honestly amazing. I cannot overstate how valuable doing a bit of exercise really is, after years of neglecting it.
>> No. 460776 Anonymous
17th October 2023
Tuesday 12:54 pm
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>>460775
I've got weights at home. I try to use them Monday, Wednesday and Friday so I'm looking to do a bit of exercising on Tuesdays and Thursdays.
>> No. 460777 Anonymous
17th October 2023
Tuesday 4:59 pm
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>>460773
Yeah, I poked at the valves - I have 2 as there are 2 zones because reasons. If I flip the levers up, the boiler lights and pushes water around - so the valves aren't stuck and the gearboxes aren't knackered. They're from different manufacturers and eras, so the odds on them having failed simultaneously are lowish - however, they're legacy, so not new with the new boiler, and I expect them to be blamed. Although I do wonder if there's a fuse in their supply, somewhere inside the boiler.
When the thermostats demand heat, the lights on the receiver boxes come on but there's no whirring of valve motor and the boiler never sees the 'valve is open, do your stuff' signal (unless I jam them open)
>> No. 460779 Anonymous
17th October 2023
Tuesday 8:23 pm
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Just popped into Morrisons for a few bits. Someone had left their 5p off per litre of fuel vouchers at the self checkout, but before I could get them a really sour looking woman working there came along and snatched them away. I guess if I was in my 70s and spending my evenings working in a supermarket I'd be pretty miserable, but she was a right jobsworth.
>> No. 460780 Anonymous
17th October 2023
Tuesday 8:51 pm
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Hmm, just ran the numbers on this and it turns out if you spend £30 ten times it's £300. Can anyone check my working?
>> No. 460783 Anonymous
17th October 2023
Tuesday 11:17 pm
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I think I'm going to leave my job. It's probably a bad idea, but I can't face another Winter telling pensioners their energy bills really are that high. It's already starting, I'm already angry at myself. I pass the baton to you, otherlad, to be the site's preeminent call centre monkey energy specialist.
>> No. 460784 Anonymous
17th October 2023
Tuesday 11:51 pm
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A neighbours sewerage thing is blocked and the smell is carrying on thewind into my house (literally two large ventilation holes in the bathroom walls). It took me a day to realise where the smell was coming from and how to control its spread, during which time I'd slept with the smell permeating my home. Now I'm ill with a stuffed up head, blocked nose and shit - don't know if it's related but fuck.
>> No. 460785 Anonymous
18th October 2023
Wednesday 11:14 am
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An ex-girlfriend bought me a sex-toy with instructions. Nothing fancy, she bought me a blowjob toy and I only used it once or twice because it didn't feel all that great. This is a bit of a grey area though, I understand women don't want to recycle dildos but what about things I put my willy in?
>> No. 460786 Anonymous
18th October 2023
Wednesday 11:44 am
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>>460785
I can't speak for otherlad, but I don't want it.
>> No. 460787 Anonymous
18th October 2023
Wednesday 11:57 am
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>>460785
A fleshlight with lips?
>> No. 460788 Anonymous
18th October 2023
Wednesday 1:24 pm
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>>460787
More of a man-milking machine that provides a suction blowjob action. You have three setting (low/mid/oh god it's going to rip my dick off), vibration, warming etc. She bought me it after I showed her my big fleshlight I'd bought during lockdown.

I think we already covered this before but I'll reiterate that it's a lot of faff and your hand is always superior.
>> No. 460789 Anonymous
18th October 2023
Wednesday 2:23 pm
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I have a theory. There's two types of sex toy, fundamentally. Ones that supplement sex, and ones that are meant to replace sex when you can't get it. The former are enjoyable, the latter are always shit and inferior to your hands.

Women have more luck with their dildos and vibrators, but for men it's always worse than just having a wank. However that's not because of any inherent difference with the toys, it's because most women are shit at wanking, just like they're shit at reverse bay parking and being comedians.

It's the fundamental difference between the sexes. Men take matters into their own hands. Women rely on assistance.
>> No. 460790 Anonymous
18th October 2023
Wednesday 2:41 pm
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>>460789
I think more research needs to be done into enhancing the humble wank. Special wanking lotions should be normalised.
>> No. 460791 Anonymous
18th October 2023
Wednesday 2:57 pm
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If they invented a sex toy that was self-cleaning and automatically got rid of my spunk for me, I'd probably invest in one. Otherwise, yes, it's better to just use your hands and aim somewhere safe.
>> No. 460792 Anonymous
18th October 2023
Wednesday 4:57 pm
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>>460632
Was this place down for a few weeks? I'd feared you'd gone forever
>> No. 460793 Anonymous
18th October 2023
Wednesday 5:34 pm
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>>460792
No; we’ve been here pretty consistently for the past few years. Were you in a foreign country? Our outstanding post quality is assured due to a variety of obscure rules that block smelly foreigners from posting here.
>> No. 460794 Anonymous
18th October 2023
Wednesday 5:52 pm
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>>460792
Imagine getting banned from dot-gee-ess of all places, let alone outing yourself as a victim of mod abuse wrong-un.

(A good day to you Sir!)
>> No. 460795 Anonymous
18th October 2023
Wednesday 7:21 pm
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I realise I'm about to call Channel Five clever, but they're currently broadcasting a programme about Aldi and for a segment on their imitation knock-off brands they had Jason Manford's brother present it. Tickled me, it did.
>> No. 460796 Anonymous
18th October 2023
Wednesday 8:14 pm
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>>460795

It's two layers deep if you think about it, Jason Manford is already a knock-off Peter Kay himself.
>> No. 460797 Anonymous
18th October 2023
Wednesday 8:57 pm
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I've got a terrible headache and I'm not sure if it's because of too much drugs or not enough drugs.
>> No. 460798 Anonymous
18th October 2023
Wednesday 10:50 pm
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>>460796
That's just anti-north sentiment. Anti-northwest if you're one of those Yorkshire freaks.
>> No. 460799 Anonymous
19th October 2023
Thursday 10:39 am
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>>460798

Correct, it is white rose on red rose hostility.

Manc accents make me want to chew my own cock off.
>> No. 460800 Anonymous
19th October 2023
Thursday 12:02 pm
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>>460799
Ah, yes, performative displeasure, a Yorkshire staple.
>> No. 460801 Anonymous
19th October 2023
Thursday 12:06 pm
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As a southern fairy, I never liked Scouse accents (as heard exclusively from the northern monkeys in Snatch) but Molly McCann won me over.
>> No. 460802 Anonymous
19th October 2023
Thursday 1:10 pm
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A posh Northern accent shits all over a posh Southern accent. It’s just so much nicer, plus it pronounces “bath” correctly. Other than that, I’m afraid most Northern accents are awful. Scouse accents are notorious (although the narration for Thomas the Tank Engine was nice, both Ringo Starr and that other one), Manc accents are the ones they always use on TV when they want to patronise you with an accent that sounds “just like you”, and Yorkshire people are genuinely into the perverse inverted snobbery and 19th-century view of class war that Mancunians are placed on the BBC to imply. So I’m afraid I hate you all. The best Northern accent, if I really had to pick, would probably be Blackburn, but I’ve never been there so maybe they don’t have the lovable purring sound in real life.
>> No. 460803 Anonymous
19th October 2023
Thursday 2:20 pm
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>>460802

The Northern Accent is literally the M62 corridor. Subtle variations but you can hear how they are all sort of a spectrum of the same one. Manchester/Lancashire accents are just Yorkshire accents spoken by people with degenerative genetic disorders.

The one true Northern accent, if I had to pick an example to preserve on a NASA time capsule to send to space, would be the Rhubarb Triangle variant. But you two know its obvious supremacy already.

Scouse and Geordie aren't northern, they're their own thing.
>> No. 460804 Anonymous
19th October 2023
Thursday 2:55 pm
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West Country, Scouse, Geordie, Barnsley make for the best dirty talk. Posh birds seem vanilla in comparison.
>> No. 460805 Anonymous
19th October 2023
Thursday 4:05 pm
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>>460804
>> No. 460806 Anonymous
19th October 2023
Thursday 4:11 pm
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>>460804
Posh birds talking dirty is like despoiling fragrant rose petals by rubbing your cock in them; northern birds it's dirty like fucking an exhaust pipe.
>> No. 460807 Anonymous
19th October 2023
Thursday 4:35 pm
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Glad to see we're dealing with the real problems in this country.
>> No. 460808 Anonymous
19th October 2023
Thursday 5:12 pm
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>>460807
It'll be of no surprise to anyone that support was spread fairly evenly across the major parties.

The average age of an MP is still 50 with more MPs between the ages of 50 to 59 than any other bracket.

We can't stop pearl-clutching old cunts getting voted in by other pearl-clutching old cunts. It's just a waiting game until they kick the bucket and we can turn Skegness into the Amsterdam of the north as the prophecies fortold.
>> No. 460809 Anonymous
19th October 2023
Thursday 6:01 pm
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>>460806
EEH, YA SPUNKY LITTLE TART.

>>460807
If people now have to go and see proper drug dealers to get laughing gas does this mean they're probably going to have harder drugs pushed on them?
>> No. 460810 Anonymous
19th October 2023
Thursday 7:08 pm
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>>460807
I have a feeling this would never have become an issue if the fuckers didn't leave little the canisters everywhere. I've seen them just dumped right next to bins and going around Shoreditch one summer seeing the street carpeted.

It's like chewing gum. As a species we're just not ready for the technology.
>> No. 460811 Anonymous
19th October 2023
Thursday 7:41 pm
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>>460810
I keep having to tell my housemate to be subtle about his drug use and that it's not a problem unless he makes it a problem. Such as by, say, dropping a joint in the hallway at the bottom of the stairs for all to see, or leaving a bong that's clearly been used in full view in the lounge.
>> No. 460812 Anonymous
19th October 2023
Thursday 7:57 pm
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>>460811
My mother-in-law used to have weed dealers living next door and a lot of their customers weren't even remotely subtle when they went round to buy drugs.
>> No. 460813 Anonymous
19th October 2023
Thursday 11:06 pm
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>>460811

When I was still living in a flat, the lad below me would burn one on the balcony every other night, especially in summer when it was warm outside and you wanted to enjoy the evening on the balcony. There was always that whiff of cannabis coming up. I asked him politely a few times to stop doing it, or do it during the day (he was mostly unemployed), but half the time he would give me completely incoherent answers because he was high, and at other times he would get verbally abusive. I actually said one time, "I could call the police, you know". To which he said "Or you could just get fucked". Fair point.
>> No. 460814 Anonymous
19th October 2023
Thursday 11:50 pm
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Things keep going wrong for me lately, and as part of this, I noticed that the Viz cryptic crossword has got harder this month and I would probably only get three or four answers, even though I try to enter it every single issue. Several hours later, I have finished it and I didn't even have to look up any of the answers. Fuck yeah. I am a king.
>> No. 460815 Anonymous
20th October 2023
Friday 7:25 am
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I bet if I topped myself there's a small chance I'd wake up in 2007 NYC with a wife who looks like Lorna Morgan and is studying for her PhD. I could be the first guy to stop wearing boot cut jeans and still not know LCD Soundsystem played that NFT concert. Perhaps I am simply imagining heaven.
>> No. 460816 Anonymous
20th October 2023
Friday 10:57 am
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I procrastinated all week on a job because I'd convinced myself it would be easy. So tonight I had to stay up all night doing it because I actually looked at what was required. I'm convinced I'll be making all the exact same mistakes when I'm 50.

If you remember someone posting about messaging a retired musician they used to fancy the pants off on LinkedIn - well she came back to me this morning with a lovely message, letting me know that my job sounds super interesting and that maybe our paths will cross again some day. Not sure I can follow that up without being a bore but my inner teen is very jealous and I'll just pretend I'm going to have her babies like any normal well-adjusted person would.
>> No. 460817 Anonymous
20th October 2023
Friday 10:59 am
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>>460815
Sounds like rose-tinted glasses. Do you really want to go back to 240p youtube videos and happy slapping?
>> No. 460818 Anonymous
20th October 2023
Friday 11:18 am
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>>460817
Hasn't the quality of the content on YouTube gone down since then. Don't you miss the old internet?
>> No. 460819 Anonymous
20th October 2023
Friday 11:37 am
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>>460818
No offence, but I wasn't hoping to wake up next to my beautiful wife, in one of the cultural capitals of the world, just so I could watch "Evolution of Dance" and "Numa Numa" on a YouTube that had the description box on the right again.
>> No. 460820 Anonymous
20th October 2023
Friday 11:41 am
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>>460817

> and happy slapping?

We definitely need to bring that back.
>> No. 460821 Anonymous
20th October 2023
Friday 11:52 am
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I've made a bit of an enemy of nostalgia, even when I was younger I could see how it trapped people. Maybe it's just a sign that my life has gradually improved over time, but I genuinely can't think of a time I'd prefer to return to other than this one. I've had lovely moments, but I wouldn't roll back the clock personally.

>>460815
>Lorna Morgan

Ah, a man of taste.
>> No. 460822 Anonymous
20th October 2023
Friday 11:58 am
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>>460821

>I've made a bit of an enemy of nostalgia, even when I was younger I could see how it trapped people.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_QtR7MY6HE
>> No. 460826 Anonymous
20th October 2023
Friday 8:11 pm
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It's the middle of the morning and you're off school sick. You're stuck watching BBC Schools because it's the only thing on TV that isn't for grown ups. El Nombre and Little Juan are currently in an escapade which can only be resolved with the proper application of mathematics. Maybe around lunch you'll get to watch something less educational, like Penny Crayon or The Family-Ness as a brief treat.
>> No. 460827 Anonymous
20th October 2023
Friday 8:14 pm
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>>460826

I vividly remember shitting myself during an episode of Numbertime. Mercifully, I was off sick.
>> No. 460828 Anonymous
20th October 2023
Friday 8:19 pm
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>>460826
It's a total scandal that they don't show educational children's TV any more. Do they even still make Look & Read?
>> No. 460829 Anonymous
20th October 2023
Friday 8:26 pm
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At work today my colleague asked how old I was. Told him early thirties. He was shocked and thought I was 25ish. Is this a win or does it just mean I still dress like a student?
>> No. 460830 Anonymous
20th October 2023
Friday 8:39 pm
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>>460829

I'd take it as a win.
>> No. 460832 Anonymous
20th October 2023
Friday 9:25 pm
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>>460826
I forgot about El Nombre. Shame I remember nothing much of the program, not even the theme song.
What about that magic pencil, huh? Remember that? [/Peter Kay reference].
>> No. 460833 Anonymous
20th October 2023
Friday 9:52 pm
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>>460832

I remember Auntie Mabel flying around in her own personal prop plane with her dog in the back seat gave me unrealistic expectations of adulthoold, particularly when you come from a working class background.
>> No. 460834 Anonymous
20th October 2023
Friday 10:25 pm
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>>460832
>not even the theme song.
El Nombre! El No-o-o-ombreeeeeee! Writing numbers in the polar sand! El No-ombre!

But it was part of some other programme, about which I too remember nothing. The magic pencil was many years earlier, in something else. It had a light on the back. Even now I remember the voice chanting, "Top, to bottom, touch and flick - then across." I have to trace it in my mind to know what that chant was about, and I presume it was how to write the letter T.

One thing I really want to know was how I can rewatch the Angle Dance, a bizarre avant-garde electronica performance with lots of dry ice that probably taught me about angles.
>> No. 460835 Anonymous
20th October 2023
Friday 10:43 pm
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>>460834

This?


>> No. 460836 Anonymous
20th October 2023
Friday 10:54 pm
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>>460835
Yes!!! Or at least, it must be. I remember the oddly-dressed man and his unsettling jerky movements, but in my head the song was much slower and frightened me a lot more. Thank you so much for that.

But then, I was an exceptionally thick child as it turns out. Every episode of El Nombre was the exact same video, dubbed over with slightly different dialogue each time and with a different number animation. And I never noticed.


>> No. 460837 Anonymous
20th October 2023
Friday 10:56 pm
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>>460834
>>460832
Aren't you both describing Words and Pictures (Plus) or was that summat else entirely?
>> No. 460838 Anonymous
20th October 2023
Friday 11:12 pm
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>>460837
I've been reading Wikipedia about all of this. Words and Pictures was a spin-off of Look & Read which started in 1970. That's the thing with the magic pencil, and allegedly also gave El Nombre his debut. However, El Nombre is better known from Number Time (1993-2001), where he became such an enduring character that he eventually got his own spin-off (2001-2003) from there.

And, while "El Nombre" in Spanish actually means "The Name" rather than "The Number", it does in fact mean "The Number" in Catalan.
>> No. 460869 Anonymous
23rd October 2023
Monday 1:42 pm
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All of my personalised ads are for plus-sized lingerie and it's ruining my life. How am I supposed to get anything done when I'm constantly being teased with big meaty thighs?
>> No. 460870 Anonymous
23rd October 2023
Monday 1:58 pm
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>>460869
I haven't had that even though I was looking at Snag tights the other day to recommend pairs to my girlfriend.
>> No. 460871 Anonymous
23rd October 2023
Monday 4:49 pm
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>>460838
Yes Wikipedia is where I first heard of this El Nombre spinoff, and from what I understand it had nothing to do with counting anymore, so what was the point?
>> No. 460879 Anonymous
23rd October 2023
Monday 10:24 pm
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>>460838
Hopefully Look and Read is where you lads learned about "magic E".
>> No. 460880 Anonymous
24th October 2023
Tuesday 1:20 am
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>>460871
He branched out gradually. After teaching me to count to ten, he also started teaching me about shapes, and then angles, and at some point someone started adding storylines and supporting characters. I don't remember exactly when I decided El Nombre had strayed too far from his kindergarten numeracy roots to still be worth watching, but I know I stayed long past the number 10.
>> No. 460881 Anonymous
24th October 2023
Tuesday 7:42 am
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It's too early to be up. The darkness outside doesn't help.
>> No. 460882 Anonymous
24th October 2023
Tuesday 7:55 am
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>>460879

I'd have a lot more confidence in my antidepressants if they looked like 90s pingers.
>> No. 460883 Anonymous
24th October 2023
Tuesday 9:12 am
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How far in advance should I look to book a holiday? I know people who are just about to sort their summer 2025 holiday, I guess so they can spread the payment out over the next couple of years.
>> No. 460885 Anonymous
24th October 2023
Tuesday 10:48 am
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>>460883

>How far in advance should I look to book a holiday?

I'd make it depend on how flexible you are with your work schedule or other commitments. You can get great last minute discounts if your time frame is two to three weeks, maybe four, but not everybody can do that. Early booking has something like a six- to eight month time frame, and you can also get good discounts.

If you self-book your hotel, flight and maybe a hire car, then in my experience the sweet spot is between three and five weeks, especially during off- or pre-season.

If you're like me and you don't like big crowds and you're going to a classic tourist destination like Majorca or Tenerife, then pre-season is a good idea, between about early May and mid-June. Many things will be cheaper to attract tourists at all.
>> No. 460888 Anonymous
24th October 2023
Tuesday 6:38 pm
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What the fuck. Browsing for guitar parts and just found out reborn baby dolls are a thing.
>> No. 460889 Anonymous
24th October 2023
Tuesday 7:09 pm
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>>460888
'not a real baby'. Well, fuck that, I'll keep looking.
The whole scene is full of deeply odd / troubled people. I'm sure there are some sane ones, not met one yet.
>> No. 460890 Anonymous
24th October 2023
Tuesday 7:45 pm
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>>460888
Got this article when I googled.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/feb/26/reborn-doll-baby-lifelike-collecting-women

I don't want to judge these women - I've come across weirder hobbies than what is essentially continuing to play with dolls as an adult - but the one who made an entire room of her house into a nursery for that lump of silicone may be taking it a little too far.
>> No. 460892 Anonymous
24th October 2023
Tuesday 9:31 pm
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>>460888
They're very much a thing, huge industry and bizarre as fuck.
>> No. 460893 Anonymous
24th October 2023
Tuesday 9:36 pm
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>>460888

That... seems mentally unhealthy. I'm not sure why. It just does.
>> No. 460896 Anonymous
25th October 2023
Wednesday 12:48 am
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>>460893
It's the female equivalent of a dakimakura. No, I don't know what a dakimakura is; stop asking. I've never even heard that word before. Leave me alone.
>> No. 460897 Anonymous
25th October 2023
Wednesday 1:02 am
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>>460896

Is a Dakimakura a potental method of coping with kitting out a room for an unexpected stillbirth?

Haha just kidding, I know it's just a weeb term for a Dutch Wife, which is itself a term for a Southeast Asian device to prevent yourself waking up all sticky with sweat if you sleep on your side in a hot climate.

I won't judge you if you have a Miku Hatsune one where she has a monstercock on the other side.
>> No. 460898 Anonymous
25th October 2023
Wednesday 7:22 am
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Ended up getting my bum licked last night. It didn't really do anything for me, but it was very brief because it turns out it was a fantasy that should have stayed in her head.
>> No. 460899 Anonymous
25th October 2023
Wednesday 10:33 am
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I've sussed out where our health services are failing.

It's not the useless, doddering cunts they staff the GP practices with. How can you fuck up being a receptionist? They somehow manage.
>> No. 460901 Anonymous
25th October 2023
Wednesday 11:45 am
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>>460899

>How can you fuck up being a receptionist?

You don't have to be highly trained to become a receptionist. Which is probably part of the problem.

https://www.healthcareers.nhs.uk/explore-roles/wider-healthcare-team/roles-wider-healthcare-team/administration/receptionist

>There are no set entry requirements to become a receptionist. Employers usually expect good literacy, numeracy and IT skills. They may ask for GCSEs or equivalent qualifications.
>> No. 460902 Anonymous
25th October 2023
Wednesday 11:55 am
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Where the fuck is the climate change thread?

My street is flooded, about a foot. Nearby streets have flooded worse, and other villages worse still. Apparently there're cars underwater, even homes flooded to the ceiling in places.

It's really quite interesting (and fun) to witness - thankfully my home is yet unaffected but for a blocked toilet, though the garden is seeping up.
There's a great atmosphere of wonder and amazement on the street, between the frustration and despair of the unlucky people. It's great to see the community come together, distributing the few sandbags available, and actually chatting and joking with one another. I spoke to random people learning a little of the area in a way I've never done before.

It'd be great to be one of those proactive types who help organise and manage the damage, like those people delivering sandbags. I thought to try and get a bucket chain going using the plentiful wheely bins littering the street, but I think it'll only shift the problem rather than solve it.

Counter to that you've got the types who're sandbagging their homes dispite already being above the water level, when those resources could be better used else where Oh well.

The town has seen this coming for years. Hell, I thought about buying sandbags myself but never bothered.

FYI water will raise through your garden earth as it levels out in other areas - something to be aware of when building rudimentary barriers to your home.
>> No. 460903 Anonymous
25th October 2023
Wednesday 12:04 pm
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>>460899
It needs more investment, but we can’t have more investment because tax receipts are too low because the average employee is so unproductive. If we can fix the economy, the NHS will fix itself. But the only person brave to admit this was Liz Truss, and her plans for fixing the economy were comically unsuccessful.
>> No. 460904 Anonymous
25th October 2023
Wednesday 12:14 pm
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>>460903
>> No. 460905 Anonymous
25th October 2023
Wednesday 12:39 pm
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>>460902
>Where the fuck is the climate change thread?

It's still there. Anything to do with Israel/Hamas or eskimos and LGBT people was nuked.
>> No. 460906 Anonymous
25th October 2023
Wednesday 1:24 pm
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>>460902

Just another reason I'm glad to live in a third floor flat. On top of a huge fuck off hill.

I'm amazed there hasn't been more flooding this year though, it feels like it hasn't stopped raining for more than a day or two at a time since July. Truly biblical, I don't remember a wetter year in my entire life. It has not fucking stopped.
>> No. 460907 Anonymous
25th October 2023
Wednesday 1:37 pm
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>>460899
>How can you fuck up being a receptionist?

I absolutely would fuck up being a receptionist. They don't just sit at a desk looking pretty all day but are engaged in the admin of the entire organisation while at the same time dealing with the so-called general public, a vile and sinister daft militant wog organisation that numbers in the billions.

And even on the basic job; would you like to see me in saucy office attire, maybe feel my hairy bum at the Christmas party? I know I wouldn't.
>> No. 460908 Anonymous
25th October 2023
Wednesday 3:13 pm
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>>460907
I actually know a doctor’s receptionist and she’s a nice person. I was shocked. It must just be the job that turns people into horrible bitches, like being Home Secretary.
>> No. 460909 Anonymous
25th October 2023
Wednesday 6:34 pm
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Is it normal for people in a workplace to shit talk colleagues behind their backs? There's one guy I work with, who wasn't in today, and everyone was saying nasty stuff about him. Even my manager joined in. It makes me worry if they shit talk me when I'm not in.
>> No. 460910 Anonymous
25th October 2023
Wednesday 6:54 pm
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>>460909

Yes. It's the only thing that keeps people sane.
>> No. 460911 Anonymous
25th October 2023
Wednesday 8:22 pm
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>>460910

Can confirm. Unfortunately.

Thick skin, is the only thing that helps.
>> No. 460912 Anonymous
25th October 2023
Wednesday 9:04 pm
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I decided to try get back in a "work out" routine last night. I did a similar thing last year and stuck with it for quite a while, until the stress and hassle of moving house threw me off. My entire body aches, good grief.

Hopefully I'll be fitter than ever by next spring though. Not going to waste the good half of the year like I did this year.
>> No. 460913 Anonymous
25th October 2023
Wednesday 11:08 pm
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My desk chair is giving up the ghost, having lost one of its 5 legs and now a seperate wheel. £80, 2 years, I guess it's not that bad, only having to replace things so regularly is becoming annoying.
>> No. 460914 Anonymous
26th October 2023
Thursday 2:07 am
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Is it weird if you haven't had a drop of alcohol in months?

I remember the last time was a beer or two at a barbecue party in early July. Since then, not a drop.

It's kind of a general trend for me since the pandemic. I've always mainly been a social drinker, and drinking on my own at home has always felt like a waste of time. And with pubs closed and social distancing, there just weren't a lot of opportunities to get drunk during covid. And now, I don't even enjoy social drinking that much anymore.
>> No. 460915 Anonymous
26th October 2023
Thursday 3:25 am
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>>460914

No. What's weird is that non-drinkers are expected to explain why they're a non-drinker, in a way that doesn't really apply to any other drug. A certain kind of drinker will give you shit about it, mind.

Post-pandemic, we've seen a real polarisation of drinking behaviours. On one end of the spectrum, a lot of social drinkers like you got out of the habit of drinking during lockdown. On the other end, a lot of people went totally off the rails because they were locked in their house with spare cash and no need to get up early in the morning. I'm not sure that it'll all drift back to how it was, particularly because Gen Z were going off booze well before the pandemic.
>> No. 460916 Anonymous
26th October 2023
Thursday 10:29 am
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>>460914
I've had the same for a long-time. When I have to fill out an online medical form I still mark that I drink, but then it asks me how many units in a week which is a quite binary way for the NHS to look at it.

A big part of it for me is the cost. It's not much but at the same time it is.
>> No. 460917 Anonymous
26th October 2023
Thursday 10:55 am
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Went to watch my daughter's harvest festival this morning. They didn't sing Cauliflowers Fluffy, the only primary school banger was Conkers. Broken Britain.

>>460914
To the best of my memory I've only had alcohol three times this year. I'll probably have it a couple of times around Christmas, but I expect that to be it. On the rare occasions that my friends and I have the same weekend free, if they're getting drunk they want to get smashed and I don't know if the hangover is worth it anymore.
>> No. 460918 Anonymous
26th October 2023
Thursday 12:58 pm
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>>460915

>On the other end, a lot of people went totally off the rails because they were locked in their house with spare cash and no need to get up early in the morning.

https://www.nihr.ac.uk/news/shift-in-drinking-patterns-during-covid-19-could-lead-to-150000-more-cases-of-disease-in-england-by-2035/30717

It actually looks like alcoholism has become worse for many people since the start of the pandemic.

>During the pandemic there has been an increase in the number of higher risk drinkers in England, and the heaviest drinkers have increased their alcohol consumption the most, bringing a risk of more alcohol-related health problems.

Again, the pandemic had the opposite effect on me. It made me realise that I practically don't need alcohol in my life at all. I was always only an occasional drinker, although I had my wild days as a younglad. But it turns out I can have just as much fun without it. In that sense, maybe it was always just a habit and part of my weekend routine. You went somewhere with friends, and you would order pints or cocktails because everybody was doing it. Nobody was questioning the wisdom of it.

Also, the morning after isn't what it used to be. The older you get, the harder it becomes. Unless you're a proper alcoholic, you just can't handle the kinds of quantities anymore that were no problem when you were 20. Which is why reducing your alcohol intake when you hit middle age is a good idea any way you look at it.
>> No. 460919 Anonymous
26th October 2023
Thursday 1:31 pm
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>>460914
>>460915

I'm one of those people who has tried nearly every drug going. I'd never call myself a non-drinker, because it would just be a lie, I love a drink and I probably always will; I have had periods where I'm drinking very heavily and regularly, but there are still plenty of times in my life I've been practically tee-total for months at a time. Sometimes you just don't have a need to, so you don't. I must have gone over a year during the pandemic without touching anything.

To me the key thing is to remember that most drugs are social drugs. Some more than others, but ironically I think it's the most compulsive ones that have the least to offer you in a solitary context. You can have a joint on your own and play some videogames and watch a film, and it'll enhance the experience, but why would you want to sit and pound back beers in your living room with nobody to talk to? It's miles more fun with a few mates. You can have a nice introspective solo experience with psychedelics, but why would you actually want to sit and bash through a bag of coke by yourself in front of the telly? It'd just be a waste.

All things in moderation I reckon. I don't think there's anything inherently problematic about alcohol as long as you are honest with yourself about when and why you drink, and I feel like keeping it mostly to social occasions is a very good barometer of that. My ex was a good example how you shouldn't treat alcohol- There were a few occasions she got ratty at me if I tried to persuade her not to have a drink when there was no reason to. I might have been the heavier drinker/drug user overall, but the difference is I never did it out of compulsion, she would drink solely because she felt she "needed" it.

Some people just have that kind of personality where they aren't capable of moderation though I guess. They have to go 100% straight edge sober to stay off it for good, or else they'll be at it every chance they get, with no inbetween.
>> No. 460920 Anonymous
26th October 2023
Thursday 6:08 pm
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I'm a massive retard and have had to turn to Stepchange to get me out of debt. One of my debts is Paypal Credit. Turns out that until that debt gets paid off, I can't use Paypal at all. I understand not using the credit, that's obvious. But I can't check out through Paypal using my own bank card. I know I'm silly for getting into this situation, but that seems quite extreme given how Paypal is like the standard for online purchases.
>> No. 460921 Anonymous
26th October 2023
Thursday 6:09 pm
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>>460920
Stop buying shit online if you're in debt.
>> No. 460923 Anonymous
26th October 2023
Thursday 7:25 pm
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>>460921
What if I need essentials like jeans? Jeans are much cheaper online than in store.
>> No. 460924 Anonymous
26th October 2023
Thursday 7:35 pm
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>>460923
You're surely trolling, or just not the person who posted the problem. Go to a charity shop if you want cheap. And you should already have jeans if they're essential.

It's alright if you're a massive retard, but don't push it. I've never used PayPal in my life, and it's never stopped me from engaging in materialistic binges both on and offline, so I'm frankly astonished.
>> No. 460928 Anonymous
26th October 2023
Thursday 11:12 pm
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>>460924

Don't be harsh lad. How do you know what got otherlad into debt to begin with? Are you going to tell us you've never done something stupid you've later come to regret? It's good that he's taking steps to deal with it, no need to be a cunt.
>> No. 460929 Anonymous
27th October 2023
Friday 12:51 am
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>>460920
>given how Paypal is like the standard for online purchases.

It's not and hasn't been for at least a decade. You should be able to handle almost any online transaction with visa now.
>> No. 460930 Anonymous
27th October 2023
Friday 8:05 am
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>Kick and OnlyFans star Amouranth has revealed her new business venture.

>After selling her farts in jars as well as her bath water, you'd think she had come up with all the ways to give her fans a piece of her. However, a beer company is certainly upping the ante by creating a new flavor that uses the streamer's yeast. And yes, it's yeast from her vagina.

https://www.unilad.com/celebrity/news/amouranth-beer-company-create-flavor-using-her-yeast-158465-20231026

Vaginal yeast beer. I'm not saying I want to be a woman, but I really wish I was in a position to take advantage of thirsty simps with more money than sense.
>> No. 460935 Anonymous
27th October 2023
Friday 4:53 pm
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Remind me not to let my cat finish off a plate of baked beans. Fucking hell, the stinky bastard.
>> No. 460941 Anonymous
27th October 2023
Friday 10:51 pm
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I feel like I need a new hobby. I can't decide between being racist against southern Europeans, or trying cock and ball torture.
>> No. 460942 Anonymous
27th October 2023
Friday 10:59 pm
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>>460941
People who choose one probably do the other.
>> No. 460943 Anonymous
27th October 2023
Friday 11:14 pm
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>>460942

If you're getting your bellend whacked and you're calling someone a dago, you're probably doing a performance art piece.
>> No. 460944 Anonymous
27th October 2023
Friday 11:20 pm
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Hit your cock with a big rubber mallet so it makes a "wop!" sound. Now that's proper multitasking right there.
>> No. 460945 Anonymous
27th October 2023
Friday 11:34 pm
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>>460944

My foreskin makes a sort of "spic" sound when I'm wanking furiously, so I'm halfway there already.
>> No. 460947 Anonymous
28th October 2023
Saturday 1:30 am
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I fucking hate all this rainy weather.
>> No. 461026 Anonymous
30th October 2023
Monday 7:42 pm
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Is it possible to clean the pages of a book? I picked up a few second-hand Iain M Banks books today but a couple of them look like they've been held by someone with something like curry sauce on their fingers. I'm deliberating whether to rub the sides with a slightly damp cloth but I don't know if a) it'd damage the book or b) it would make them any cleaner.
>> No. 461028 Anonymous
30th October 2023
Monday 8:16 pm
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>>461026

Covers are generally water-resistant and can be wiped down with a damp cloth. The paper inside isn't, so stains soak in and water tends to just spread the stain over a wider area. You could try an ordinary pencil eraser or a melamine sponge, which won't completely remove a stain but can lessen the appearance; anything else you try will probably just make matters worse.
>> No. 461035 Anonymous
31st October 2023
Tuesday 7:46 am
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I haven't entirely thought this through, but do you reckon selling treasure maps would be a cool business idea? I was thinking yesterday how cool it would be to have an actual treasure map. I could sell the map and have some actual buried treasure at the end you have to dig up. I know there's shit like geocaching, but no way will that be as cool as an actual physical treasure map with an X marking the spot where you get to dig up the treasure at the end.
>> No. 461036 Anonymous
31st October 2023
Tuesday 8:17 am
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>>461035
not a bad idea really, could be the 'next big thing' like escape rooms were
>> No. 461037 Anonymous
31st October 2023
Tuesday 8:57 am
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>>461035

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masquerade_%28book%29
>> No. 461038 Anonymous
31st October 2023
Tuesday 9:49 am
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Looking forward to a storm.
>> No. 461039 Anonymous
31st October 2023
Tuesday 10:47 am
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>>461037

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oak_Island_mystery
>> No. 461040 Anonymous
31st October 2023
Tuesday 12:37 pm
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BBC News has just broadcast the phrase "useless fuckpigs". Deep joy.
>> No. 461041 Anonymous
31st October 2023
Tuesday 12:38 pm
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>>461040
In what context?
>> No. 461042 Anonymous
31st October 2023
Tuesday 1:13 pm
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>>461041

https://twitter.com/Mrbaiti/status/1719332540698226991
>> No. 461044 Anonymous
31st October 2023
Tuesday 6:15 pm
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Isn't one of the implicit rules of Halloween that you only go trick or treating at houses which have decorations out for it? We've had three groups knocking at the door and two of them, where we could hear very small children outside, started banging quite aggressively because we didn't answer.
>> No. 461045 Anonymous
31st October 2023
Tuesday 7:00 pm
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>>461044

If you knock on the houses with decorations, you'll only get sweets. The houses with no decorations might give you a quid to piss off.
>> No. 461046 Anonymous
31st October 2023
Tuesday 7:14 pm
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You actually get £75 on Alan Carr's Epic Gameshow for spelling "necessary" correctly.

Who really falls at that hurdle.
>> No. 461047 Anonymous
31st October 2023
Tuesday 7:23 pm
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>>461035
The Environment Agency won't take kindly to creative littering or people digging all over the place.

>>461044
No, I've never heard of this rule. In fact it's quite strongly implied that your home will soon be the target of vandalism.
>> No. 461048 Anonymous
31st October 2023
Tuesday 7:25 pm
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I miss having mates and a girlfriend to do things with on Halloween. Even if by "doing things" I just mean ordering pizza and watching a couple of films.

I mean I am doing just that anyway, but I am feeling quite lonely about it.
>> No. 461049 Anonymous
31st October 2023
Tuesday 7:35 pm
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There's a faint whiff of dog poo coming from the underside of my shoes right now as I'm sitting in the livingroom. I just can't be arsed to take them off and do something about it.
>> No. 461050 Anonymous
31st October 2023
Tuesday 8:28 pm
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>>461049

Shoes off in the house.

>>461048

Treat yourself to a whole bag of Haribo and a wank.
>> No. 461051 Anonymous
31st October 2023
Tuesday 8:34 pm
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>>461048
I miss coronavirus, when I absolutely knew that my friends weren't all doing something fun without me. I suspect I might be mental or pathetic, but since I have a tendency to be friends with deadbeats and parasites, and I don't think I have ever been romantically involved with anyone at Halloween, I don't really have enough of a data set to properly figure it out.
>> No. 461052 Anonymous
31st October 2023
Tuesday 9:33 pm
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United Utilities think I still live in my old flat as well as my new house, and they've been sending bills there. I told them to stop and they said they'd sort it out, but the bailiffs who were hassling me are still hassling me over an unknown bill that I don't even need to pay. Do either of you have any tips? Should I reply to their messages and tell them it's sorted, or is that a super no-no like inviting them into your house? Will they give me CCJs and things before they come to see me, or can I just wait for them to rock up and then tell them it's sorted in person?
>> No. 461053 Anonymous
1st November 2023
Wednesday 1:26 am
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>>461052
>is that a super no-no like inviting them into your house?

Yes, they're basically Vampires. If you're soft like me and let them in when you moved into a building with eight other households who told them to fuck off, then you'll find yourself paying for communal water-related costs such as rainwater removal for the entire building by yourself. And there's fuck-all to be done if the company has no names and details to chase. In yourcase, you'll have a dogshit time proving that you aren't a quantum occupant, just like how utility companies they don't give a shite if they're cutting off the supply to an address previously occupied by a dead bloke with no relatives to inform them. They just want the dosh. You might be able to get them off their arses if you write to the Guardian, but you must either have a posh name and live near Salisbury or Harrogate, or be acting on behalf of an elderly relative with Dementia from your humble farmhouse in Tuscany.
>> No. 461054 Anonymous
1st November 2023
Wednesday 1:34 am
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>>461052

In any situation like this - inaccurate bills, identity theft, that sort of thing - the quickest route is usually to ignore customer service and go straight to the organisation's Data Protection Officer. Every company that processes personal data is required by law to appoint a Data Protection Officer and they have the duty to ensure that the company is compliant with data protection law. You can typically find the contact details for this person by searching their corporate website for something like "data protection officer", "data protection" or "privacy policy".

You should state what information they hold about you that is inaccurate (i.e. that you owe them money) and cite your right to rectification under Article 16 of the GDPR. If they don't promptly address the issue, you should make a complaint to the Information Commissioner's Office and send a copy of the complaint to the Data Protection Officer.

https://gdpr-info.eu/art-16-gdpr/

DataProtectionandFraud@uuplc.co.uk

https://ico.org.uk/make-a-complaint/
>> No. 461055 Anonymous
1st November 2023
Wednesday 2:36 am
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Can't sleep.

Too much coffee again. Fuck.

Giving this another 30 minutes. And then I'll just get up and watch some TV.
>> No. 461056 Anonymous
1st November 2023
Wednesday 1:27 pm
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First they get rid of the curvy trans girl, then they get rid of the BBW. Big Brother viewers are cunts.
>> No. 461057 Anonymous
1st November 2023
Wednesday 1:57 pm
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>>461056

>Big Brother

Honestly, why do people still watch that tripe.
>> No. 461058 Anonymous
1st November 2023
Wednesday 6:06 pm
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I shaved my balls over a week ago and now they're purple. I think it's the short hairs scratching against each other as they regrow.
>> No. 461059 Anonymous
1st November 2023
Wednesday 6:08 pm
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>>461058
A friend of mine once shaved his arse and said the hair growing back was the most excruciating pain he had ever experienced.
>> No. 461060 Anonymous
1st November 2023
Wednesday 6:12 pm
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>>461059
It's one of those things where once you start you have to keep at it or you'll get a constant unbearable itch like I'm going through now. I'd never do my arsecrack, but I think I'll keep on shaving the hairs which grow on the underside of the shaft of my penis.
>> No. 461061 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 1:27 am
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>>460632
Storm Ciaran is lashing it down.
>> No. 461062 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 8:39 am
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>>461061
Not here it isn't.
>> No. 461063 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 9:02 am
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>>461061
>>461062


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv8GW1GaoIc
>> No. 461066 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 12:17 pm
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How long are your legs? I'm 5'11" but I wear 30" leg jeans, so I feel like I have relatively short legs with a relatively long torso.
>> No. 461067 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 12:41 pm
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You seen that series of TV adverts on the BBC? Children in need followed by a halloween-like shot of three dark gowned and hooded figures in a dungeon, the central figure lifting their hood to reveal Claudia Winkleman shushing the camera with a finger to her mouth?

Apparently the show is 'The Traitors', pictured - in context it's a little more understandable, but the series of ads still creates a disturbing narative. Much like years ago when the BBC News strung together a set of seperate headlines orders to sound like a daft militant wog attack (explosions followed by elated screaming at a Pope sighting).

It's surely deliberate.
>> No. 461068 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 12:47 pm
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>>461066
Same height and I'm about a thirty-two inch leg. I don't think anyone's going to put you in shackles and sell you to the circus for having a thirty inch inside leg. Besides, maybe your legs and torso are in proportion, but you've got tall feet or a long head, you vile monster.

>>461067
The Traitors is one of the Beeb's most succesful series in a while and you sound insane.
>> No. 461069 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 1:04 pm
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I scratched somebody's rear bumper in a supermarket car park the other day with my car. They had a late-model Audi Q3, apparently a company car. It's going to be an insurance claim, but just to get an idea of a ballpark figure, I called Audi today. The scratches are solely on a plastic bumper trim piece that is replaceable individually, which is around £110 because it has a painted black glossy finish, but as it's an insurance claim, they said they'll have to go "by the book". Which means the entire bumper has to come off because the trim piece is probably screwed onto the bumper from behind. And it's a two-hour procedure to remove and reinstall the bumper on that model, plus maybe another hour to retrain all the electronic sensors that are located in the bumper. And they'll have to have a technician perform a complete damage assessment of the back of the car, to ensure there is no damage behind the bumper. Which will take another hour or two.

All told, we're talking upwards of £500 to £600. Maybe even more. For a fucking three-inch scratch on a trim piece.
>> No. 461072 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 1:44 pm
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>>461066
I am 5’8” and either 29 or 30 inches for my inside leg, depending on which one is actually available. If you want stumpy limbs, you should see my arms. On the jeans I am currently wearing, my hands don’t reach the bottoms of my pockets.
>> No. 461073 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 1:54 pm
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I found out a new colleague in another team is Spanish and I've already put an effort on to be nice to her because she's new. So I typed out my best Spanish on how we can talk in code in front of the others when we need to get creative on work stuff.

She's left me on read and now I'm worried that she thinks I'm trying to get in her knickers because I was being pretty informal. I should really focus on my actual work. I was just excited to have someone to talk to.

>>461066
I'm 6'3 with 34 in the leg and always thought I was more of a t-rex body plan.

It's a weird height to be actually. I'm tall and was regarded as somewhat tall in my hometown but in the more affluent south, especially in the workplace or other professional environment, I'll be maybe the second or third tallest person in the room. Apparently height is something strongly correlated to child poverty which is why the next generation coming up have collectively lost height.
>> No. 461075 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 2:01 pm
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>>461067
I think I've moaned about this before but I can't be arsed to check the Vimpto thread; in the American version they pronounce is "trader" instead of "traitor".

>>461068
I would say that my head is more bulbous than average.

>>461069
My girlfriend gently bumped into the car in front of her when she'd wrongly anticipated they'd set off at a roundabout. The other car was brand new and they quoted about £2k to have it repaired, even though there was no visible damage, because the insurers were insisting on things like replacing the rear camera, the reversing sensors, redoing the paintwork, etc.
>> No. 461076 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 2:12 pm
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>>461066
I'm 6'2" with 32 inch leg. My proportions annoy me because my torso is too long for standard t-shirts so I have to buy my clothes from big & tall departments, but my legs are relatively short for my height.
>> No. 461079 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 2:35 pm
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>>461072

>5'8"

How are Merry and Pippin doing nowadays?
>> No. 461091 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 3:22 pm
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>>461079
Hey, fuck you. I’ll run under your front door and puncture your basketball.
>> No. 461093 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 3:29 pm
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>>461075

I've got a weirdly massive head. I'm only 5'7" and wear small t-shirts, but I wear an L or XL motorbike helmet. My mum's still bitter about the damage I did to her undercarriage.
>> No. 461100 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 6:16 pm
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>>461093

>My mum's still bitter about the damage I did to her undercarriage.

Probably more your dad than your mum.





I'll get my coat.
>> No. 461107 Anonymous
2nd November 2023
Thursday 10:21 pm
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I miss travelling around Spain and Italy. People aren't particularly worried about offending you, and in turn aren't easily offended. Very refreshing to be in a place where you don't have to self-censor all the time.
>> No. 461108 Anonymous
3rd November 2023
Friday 1:30 pm
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Lately I am fucking addicted to the apple strudels you find in the frozen dessert section at Asda and Tescos. I wanted to pile some weight back on quickly after going through a depressive episode, where I noticed at one point that I'd started to look like the bony skeleton I was at about 13, and it was a bit of a moment of clarity. I don't think I can find a cheaper or more delicious source of pure filthy calories as this.

They're cheap as chips, under three quid for this big fuck off 14 incher almost as long as my cock that's meant to feed your whole family after the Sunday roast or whatever. It lasts me two or three days over about 4-6 portions depending how much of a pig I want to be. Bathe it in double cream. I tried custard, but the simplicity of cream is far superior.

I'll be fitting my jeans again in no time.
>> No. 461110 Anonymous
3rd November 2023
Friday 2:04 pm
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If my steering wheel is kind of squeaking/scraping when I turn it does that mean it probably needs more oil? It was only serviced about three weeks ago.
>> No. 461111 Anonymous
3rd November 2023
Friday 2:06 pm
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Having mechanical issues dad would be the one I'd have had to ask how to solve. Realised I could ask his best friend, who's still keeping an eye on us. It's given me some feelings, the old man still looking out for us, in a way, despite being so long gone.
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3rd November 2023
Friday 2:50 pm
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>>461108
>apple strudels

100% with you. They are also a poison of mine and my favourite excuse to make a load of custard.
>> No. 461113 Anonymous
3rd November 2023
Friday 3:02 pm
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>>461110

A steering column is rather more complicated than you might imagine and there are a lot of different parts that could be causing the noise. You'd want to use grease rather than oil. If you need to ask, it's probably not a DIY job and I'd suggest going back to your garage.
>> No. 461114 Anonymous
3rd November 2023
Friday 4:23 pm
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Chinese women are more attractive than Japanese women, and they don't have pixelated clunges. Don't @ me.
>> No. 461115 Anonymous
3rd November 2023
Friday 4:36 pm
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>>461110

Do you have power steering?

Check your power steering fluid level. And with the bonnet up, turn the wheel a few times with the engine running, to help pinpoint the source of the noise.

Worn out control arms can also cause a scraping noise. Also, bad shocks or springs can cause the car to sit too low and then the tyres can scrape up against the wheel arch liners.

None of this is a DIY job to fix unless you've got multi year experience doing things like that in your driveway. I'd honestly have it looked at.
>> No. 461116 Anonymous
3rd November 2023
Friday 4:39 pm
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>>461115

What I forgot to say is that the scraping noise can be a worn out power steering pump. If it makes noise because of a power steering fluid leak, top it up and see if it goes away. And do the other checks I mentioned, or have them done.
>> No. 461117 Anonymous
3rd November 2023
Friday 5:45 pm
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>>461113
To me the scraping sound seems like it's coming very close to the dashboard, possibly even where the wheel meets the dash, rather than deeper down.

>>461115
It does have power steering so I was going to check the fluid level in the morning and take it from there. I did get new tyres fitted when it had its service. Thinking about it, on Monday I couldn't avoid running over a tree branch when I was on an A road which was probably a couple of inches thick; I've probably done about 200 miles since then and it starting squeaking today.

Thanks, lads.
>> No. 461119 Anonymous
3rd November 2023
Friday 9:15 pm
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Where should I buy a buttplug from and what size should I go for?
>> No. 461120 Anonymous
3rd November 2023
Friday 9:25 pm
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>>461114

I probably couldn't reliably tell the difference, but I would love to have either. I've tried plain old white British lasses, European, black and brown, and I got close with a latina lass once. Regret missing that shot. But the one I've never had a real opportunity to try is yellow.

I think that's what I want to shoot for this time but I have no idea where to start. Where's Yellowfeverlad, what is your sage advice? Except presumably "be in London" because I am not and fuck that.
>> No. 461121 Anonymous
3rd November 2023
Friday 9:39 pm
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>>461119

How much experience do you have putting things up your arse? Or is it for someone else?

It's wise to start small and work up. Anal is all about practice and acclimatising yourself. The thing with plugs is that even really big ones are pretty comfortable once they are in, but the insertion and removal can certainly sting. You also get that "panic" of "ohfuckohfuckithurtsgetitout" once they settle inside, but you just have to fight through that, eventually it passes.

... Anyway lovehoney, like everything else, really. Unless you want some bespoke tailplug type deal, then you go to etsy.
>> No. 461122 Anonymous
3rd November 2023
Friday 10:03 pm
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>>461121

>lovehoney, like everything else, really

Seconded. Don't forget the lube.

If it hurts, you're going too fast. Start with a finger, take your time and aim for the prostate.
>> No. 461124 Anonymous
3rd November 2023
Friday 11:02 pm
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>>461122

>aim for the prostate

Aim to stimulate the area, but don't go hammering it directly, I'd say. In my experience that's how you end up getting that annoying feeling of needing to piss but not quite, like you've had a few lagers.

Prostate orgasms are worth putting in the practice for though, if you can figure out the knack to it. Some lads just don't know what they are missing honestly.
>> No. 461125 Anonymous
4th November 2023
Saturday 12:36 am
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>>461120
Okay lads, this is a post I wouldn't want my mum to read but you've asked for it and keep in mind that I'm some sort of pervert but I'm not a twat about it, I've just always admired Asian features and while I've dated other races I have a preference that creates a lot of cultural difficulty and baggage in my life:

>Japanese v Chinese

This is a lot more complicated than it sounds because they both have a strong North/South divide that generally shows in differences in how the people look and is fairly intuitive.

Southern = softer, shorter and more tan = Southern China and overseas communities, Okinawans (somewhat). These are more traditionally feminine and the soft rice-ball type. The stereotype is that women from Sichuan are the most beautiful women in China (also nice and spicy food) but I prefer Liaoning/Shandong who are tougher northern women. There are a lot of exceptions.

Richer = In China this means taller and paler. China has class divides that are still like something from the middle ages behind closed doors. Provincial girls are shorter, more tan and will be the ones you see dating white boys who still feel that marrying a (white) foreigner is a significant catch. The upper class women are taller and paler but in China itself these live like women in some period drama unless they've gotten too old and won't be associating with white boys. None of this applies to girls who grew up in the west of course.

East = In Japan there's a cultural slider running from outgoing Osaka to reserved Tokyo too. Which is ironic as Tokyo is the international city. I prefer women from Osaka because they're more fun, there's a stereotype of them being funnier and I think it's true. Like the Italians of Japan. Also there's only a subset of Japanese who go beyond fucking around out of curiosity but you won't meet the others.

Now physically I would rank Chinese above Japanese but on a cultural level Japanese women have adorable habits, are much more open about sex and a lot of mainland Chinese are utterly brainwashed and outright rude. I've seen this with women I've dated and how how you'll have party members living in the west as low-level criminals like Vatniks in Germany and being bullies to service staff. So if you date a mainland Chinese woman you need to keep your wits about you and be aware that she'll have a more traditional view of home life that you WILL find grating after awhile even if you get treated like a married bloke from the 1960s.

>Where's Yellowfeverlad, what is your sage advice? Except presumably "be in London" because I am not and fuck that.

Manchester. But if you're being difficult then try Coffee Meets Bagel but be aware these will be FOB.
>> No. 461126 Anonymous
4th November 2023
Saturday 12:50 am
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>>461125

>Manchester

So only the shitter, worse copy of London up North. Grand.

I live in a pretty popular uni town and I do see them often enough on the apps, I've matched a few, but either they are all catfishes or their behaviour always triggers my alarms as catfish.

Appreciate the insight though lad.
>> No. 461135 Anonymous
4th November 2023
Saturday 9:24 pm
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Just fed the neighbour's cat a slice of ham in little pieces, because she's the most adorable cat ever and she's the only one of about four different cats on this street that lets me pet her, and it turns out will eat food right off my hand.

I just checked, cats can eat small amounts of ham. You shouldn't make a diet out of it for them because salt and seasoning that goes into ham isn't what they eat naturally. But a little bit is fine.

I would love to get my own cat. We always had cats when I was a weelad growing up.
>> No. 461151 Anonymous
5th November 2023
Sunday 6:16 pm
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What does "kiss me teeth" mean? I only ever hear it alongside what I percieve to be a predetory smile, like a trust excersise demanded by a fearsome creature. As though the paying thealty(?) to a king. I think it's an African or Carabian phrase.
>> No. 461152 Anonymous
5th November 2023
Sunday 6:29 pm
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>>461151

It's the black equivalent of tutting. The person saying "kiss my teeth" is saying that they're kissing their teeth (i.e. tutting), in a show of disdain for whatever wasteman bullshit ting is happening.
>> No. 461153 Anonymous
5th November 2023
Sunday 6:35 pm
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>>461151

I believe it's "kiss my teeth" as in, that sound like a tssk or tch where you curl your lips in and suck a bit of air through, kind of like kissing your own teeth. Hence the term.

It's essentially the urban black yoot version of rolling your eyes incredulously, or smacking your forehead. Generally indicates disapproval or disbelief. You occasionally see it used online as just "kmt", which seems to be equivalent to "smh", meaning smack my head, which is the zoomer mutation of good old fashioned disappointedpicard.jpg
>> No. 461154 Anonymous
5th November 2023
Sunday 6:40 pm
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>>461153
"Smh" is "shake/shaking my head" not a variation on facepalm. I prefer the hybrid "smt" meaning "shake/shaking my teeth".
>> No. 461156 Anonymous
5th November 2023
Sunday 7:08 pm
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>>461153
You're sure? I've seen a few (admittedly comedy) programmes with the person saying it actually expecting their teeth to be kissed by another person.
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5th November 2023
Sunday 10:14 pm
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>> No. 461163 Anonymous
6th November 2023
Monday 1:21 am
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I'm coming down with a cold.

Really not the best time right now, I've got shedloads to do.
>> No. 461164 Anonymous
6th November 2023
Monday 2:31 am
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>>461163
It's the time of year lad. Maybe have a lemsip and a wank.

Get well soon.
>> No. 461165 Anonymous
6th November 2023
Monday 9:38 am
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MY CAT IS A FUCKING DICKHEAD.
>> No. 461166 Anonymous
6th November 2023
Monday 10:18 am
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First day back at work for three weeks.

Cracking mood.
>> No. 461167 Anonymous
6th November 2023
Monday 12:42 pm
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>>461166
.. you're a teacher?
>> No. 461168 Anonymous
6th November 2023
Monday 2:06 pm
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>>461167
I think it's mentalhealthlad. Excuse me mentalhealthlad who works for an energy company. Sorry, the other mentalhealthlad who works for an energy company, but used to work for the NHS.

>>461165
Did you two have another argument?
>> No. 461169 Anonymous
6th November 2023
Monday 2:30 pm
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He has no qualms whatsoever about where he shits; if he's indoors and you don't hear his half-hearted meow to be let outside, so he can curl one out in the garden, he will slink off somewhere for a crafty poo.

I had last week off work and I found out this morning that at some point he's snuck into my home office so he could shit under my desk. I swear he's deliberately shat on top of my laptop charger wire, which had fused stuck onto the (thankfully wooden) floor. I've given it all a good clean but I'm paranoid I'm going to take my laptop into work later on this week and then spot there's still a bit of crusty cat shit on it.

The little bastard.
>> No. 461170 Anonymous
6th November 2023
Monday 3:35 pm
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>>461167
No, Cityboy.
>> No. 461171 Anonymous
6th November 2023
Monday 3:44 pm
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>>461168

>I think it's mentalhealthlad.

Don't think that narrows it down. I think there's at least four ongoing existential meltdowns happening here, myself included, but it's rude to point them all out really isn't it.

Can't imagine why, it's not like we appear to be living through the end times, everyone's skint, it's rained non-stop for about 3 months, and there's fuck all to look forward to. I am surprised any of us are still here really. We all ought to pat ourselves on the back.

I mean genuinely for a moment, is it just me? Because at other times in my life I have been depressed or felt low going into winter and all that nonsense. But this time feels different, like there's no light at the end of the tunnel this time, only more and more misery. And don't worry, at least I'm not (one of the) suicidal lad(s), BTW, I am eternally too stubborn for that, but the point remains.
>> No. 461172 Anonymous
6th November 2023
Monday 4:05 pm
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I've taken the week off work to sit in my flat playing computer games and being a slob. Unfortunately I keep having to leave the house and generally do stuff which is not what I wanted to do with my time off to relax at all.

This is outrageous. I even had to get up early to go to the doctor today and he called me half-hour before my appointment to cancel and give a prescription over the phone. You really can't go back to what you had in your youth no matter how hard you try even if you were an awkward teenager.

>>461169
Can't you just get a litter box or install a cat-flap? They're not expensive.
>> No. 461174 Anonymous
6th November 2023
Monday 4:14 pm
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>>461171
Plenty to look forward to lad. Crimbo soon and next year we will have a massive cunt-off about the general election which might even be concurrent to watching how far the US will come to a civil war in their own election.

It's all about learning to thrive when everything is fucked. Everyone else is losing their minds but this is our home-turf.
>> No. 461175 Anonymous
6th November 2023
Monday 4:24 pm
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>>461172
Bought a catflap in February 2022 and my girlfriend keeps saying she's going to get the handyman at her work to install it but she keeps putting it off because she gets all weird about other people judging her house. It's the first time he's done a poo in the house in about two months and I think the last one was mainly because we bought a big houseplant which he decided must be a toilet for him. At least our other cat doesn't shut the fuck up when she needs to go outside to do her business.

>>461174
The next general election is going to be a bit weird. I can't remember the last time the side I, well support is too strong a word, want to win will actually go on and win it.
>> No. 461176 Anonymous
6th November 2023
Monday 4:35 pm
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My cold that started with a sniffle last night has turned into a full blown fucking flu over night.

Covid isn't likely, did a test yesterday, but I haven't felt this shit in two or three years. Can't get up from my spot on the sofa under plenty of blankets for more than four or five minutes without feeling dizzy and like I'm about to collapse.

Didn't think to stock up on grocies last night, so I've mainly been eating Hovis wholemeal and some slightly dodgy looking cheddar today.

I've looked at Tesco Delivery, I've never used it and I just can't be arsed today. There's an Asda in walking distance, maybe I'll just take an extra dose of Ibuprofen and then trudge to the shop.
>> No. 461177 Anonymous
6th November 2023
Monday 6:58 pm
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>>461176

You'll want Paracetamol for this, Ibuprofen is better for bumps and breaks. Make yourself a giant sausage roll from a thick duvet with yourself as the sausagemeat and sweat it out.
>> No. 461178 Anonymous
6th November 2023
Monday 7:09 pm
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>>461171

No, it's not just you. I've been speaking with loads of normally-not-mental people who are feeling incredibly pessimistic. I've got a theory, although I'm not sure how correct or helpful it is.

In late 1945, there was a general sense of euphoria in Britain. Hitler had been defeated and the privations of war would finally be over. By the end of 1946, that euphoria had turned into an increasing sense of unease and by 1947 it was a deep malaise, as we started to realise that we were still sort of fucked. The dead were still dead, our cities were still in ruins and our economy was crushed under a colossal burden of debt. The joy of victory created a false dawn; in our eagerness to move on from the horrors of war we tried to pretend that everything was back to normal, but that didn't last for long. The reality was that Britain and the British people were broken in all sorts of ways, it took a long time to patch up the worst of that damage and some things could never be fixed.

It might seem hyperbolic to compare the covid pandemic to the Second World War, but there really isn't any other event in the last century of British history that bears comparison. A quarter of a million people died, millions got properly ill and most of us at some point thought "am I going to die too?". We aren't really ready to acknowledge it yet, but we're collectively traumatised. I don't mean "traumatised" in the TikTok sense of "poor me, a bad thing happened once and now my life is ruined", but in the clinical sense of "a bad thing happened recently and it has has significantly affected the way I think and feel".

The normal, healthy reaction to seeing something awful on the news is to acknowledge that it's awful, but also to silently think to yourself "well, it's just some shit that's happening to some other cunt, it's got fuck all to do with me really". It's not something to be particularly proud about, but the distinction between our own immediate circumstances and the big stuff happening out in the world is really important to keep us sane.

Covid undermined that defence mechanism, because it was to do with us. The early reports of a virus in some Chinese city we'd never heard of became horrifying footage from Italian hospitals, which became horrifying footage from British hospitals. The worst case scenario did actually materialise, the scary thing happening far away did come to our front door. When we watch the news in 2023, we're like a war veteran on Bonfire Night - we might know that the bangs are just fireworks, but something deep in our subconscious reacts to them like they're bombs. Every bad news story seems more bleak, more threatening, more real, because we haven't yet come to terms with the aftermath of a bad news story that went on to fuck up everyone's life to some extent.

The war ended in 1945, but rationing didn't end completely until 1954. The economy remained in deep austerity for more than a decade, because we needed to repay our war debts, rebuild damaged infrastructure and catch up on a long period where the civilian economy was secondary to military production. The railways and many manufacturing industries practically had to be rebuilt from scratch, because we had run them well beyond maximum capacity for so long that the infrastructure was just completely worn out.

The economic situation post-Covid isn't nearly as severe as post-war, but it's still quite bad and it's compounded by a lack of leadership. The unpalatable truth is that a combination of austerity, Brexit and Covid have completely exhausted our reserves, that things will get better eventually, but that the hard times could last for several more years. The government (and to some extent the opposition) refuse to meaningfully engage with that truth, so their continual denial and lies deny us even the scant comfort of knowing that there's a solid plan to get us out of the mess we're in. The economy will get better, but it's really hard to believe that when the people in charge of the economy refuse to admit that there's even a problem. There was a post-war consensus, but there isn't yet a post-Covid consensus, which has a really corrosive effect on our capacity for hope.

I think that things will get better, but I think that we have to start with the understanding that things are pretty fucked up. We've all gone a little bit mad, the country is on its arse, but that isn't a permanent state of affairs. We've suffered deep collective scarring and that will take some time to heal.


>> No. 461180 Anonymous
6th November 2023
Monday 8:20 pm
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>the hard times could last for several more years.
What exactly is the issue? Coming from a dolescum recluse, I'm not really seeing any austerity other than the sharp increase in food prices lately.

Are there actually that many poor families who can't just tighten their belts a bit? My annual income is somewhere around £6,000, and while I don't pay for many utilities nor my whole rent, I'm not exactly suffering - the most effect I've felt is not being able or willing to buy cheese quite as regularly as I used to (sausages, too). Hell I haven't owned a smart phone in all these years because contract prices are too high. Internet from time to time, also.

Someone help me regain touch with the reality of self-supported living in the UK.
>> No. 461181 Anonymous
6th November 2023
Monday 8:26 pm
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Don't you think the two team captains this week look like Bob Saget and Razor Ruddock?
>> No. 461182 Anonymous
6th November 2023
Monday 8:55 pm
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>>461178

Great post l8d.

I agree with most of it, although I think less people were directly impacted by the actual pandemic part of covid, more the shock to the system of having actual lockdowns and sweeping public order rules to follow. It was the sort of thing we had all, subconsciously or not, just assumed wouldn't happen in our life times.

We'd learned about the blitz and everything in school, we knew that kind of thing can happen, but we just assumed that it probably wouldn't be to us. How often do those sorts of thing happen after all? I know for me personally that was what hit me hard at first. Like, shit, we're actually going to have a big impact on our lives, it wasn't exactly 1984 or the introduction of conscription or anything but it was a big departure from the fairly "libertarian" kind of lifestyle we're used to in the west.

I think part of the trauma from that is that now, when we see things like war ramping up in Eastern Europe and the Middle East, when we see headlines about the economy crashing or some big disaster creeping around the corner... We can no longer go on with that "ah well, it probably won't happen to us" mindset we had before. Even if we consciously knew it might, our subconscious still filed it away for us. But now we know it can happen to us. So all those other looming threats seem much more troubling.

And on top of all that, you can't afford cheese any more.

>>461180

To be fair the food prices are where it's really stinging most people, as well as gas/electricity. For me it's not so much that I'm struggling to make ends meet, it's just that what was already a pretty modest life where my relatively dreary life was at least made tolerable by being able to afford a couple of little luxuries each month- A few drinks here, a new videogame there- Now I've got to basically budget everything and occasionally resign myself to whole months where I know I can't have anything nice. It's just a cycle of going to work and coming home, so I can afford to do the same next month.

If I didn't live alone thing would still be a lot better for me but really I'm not prepared to live with anyone other than a long term partner, so that's not exactly a realistic prospect any time soon. The last one left me in a right mess as it is.
>> No. 461185 Anonymous
6th November 2023
Monday 9:08 pm
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>>461184

>I regularly reminisce about sexual exploits with ex-girlfriend's from my early twenties

Yeah, same.

>despite being in a long-term relationship with a child.

Erm...
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6th November 2023
Monday 9:14 pm
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>>461175
> I can't remember the last time the side I, well support is too strong a word, want to win will actually go on and win it.
I will never forget what I posted on Facebook in 2010. I forget the exact wording but shhhhh [My name] "voted! In the end, I went for the Liberal Democrats. They'd better not win and ruin the country now. I don't want that on my conscience."

Nick Clegg, the coalition, austerity, the annihilation of a viable third party, the polarisation of society, Brexit, the Tory one-party state that nobody likes but everyone votes for, all of it. It is all, all of it, my personal fault. I'm sorry.
>> No. 461188 Anonymous
6th November 2023
Monday 9:25 pm
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>>461186

Right there with you mate. Back when my understanding of politics were Labour want to make it 1984, the Conservatives are the "back in my day you could leave your doors unlocked bring back hanging" party, but the Lib Dems might legalise some drugs.

If only I knew.
>> No. 461189 Anonymous
6th November 2023
Monday 9:47 pm
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>>461182

>For me it's not so much that I'm struggling to make ends meet, it's just that what was already a pretty modest life where my relatively dreary life was at least made tolerable by being able to afford a couple of little luxuries each month

Absolutely this. A huge section of society have seen their standard of living get markedly worse. We can generally tolerate stagnation, but when you have to start cutting back on things, it feels like the government is picking your pocket. Some people are falling into destitution and genuinely can't afford the essentials, but a much larger number of people are having to make choices that aren't life-or-death, but still feel fucking bleak.

Back in 2016, Theresa May's big buzzword was "just about managing" - the six million or so families who were above the poverty line, but not by much. If you were just about managing in 2016, you probably aren't managing today. Whether you meet the technical definition of poverty or not, you almost certainly feel poor.

>>461186

2010 was a different time. Diesel was good for the environment, Jimmy Savile was a national treasure and everyone agreed with Nick. Channel 4 employed Russell Brand, I said that no-one would make money from Bitcoin and you voted Lib Dem. We all make mistakes.
>> No. 461192 Anonymous
6th November 2023
Monday 10:53 pm
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>>461189

>I said that no-one would make money from Bitcoin

Most people still don't, and many have lost arseloads in crypto. So I guess you were at least partially right.
>> No. 461193 Anonymous
6th November 2023
Monday 11:13 pm
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You lot were miserable sods even before the pandemic and austerity.
>> No. 461194 Anonymous
6th November 2023
Monday 11:41 pm
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>>461186
>>461188
Nice going, idiots. If I was 18 months older I would have done likewise. I know people who feel like they were duped after voting for Blair in 1997, but compared to that falling prey to Cleggmania must sting like a rattlesnake bite. At least Blair never explicitly said he wouldn't help kill one-million Iraqis.


>>461193
>before austerity
I not believe there was such a time. You're just trying to trick me, trick me so the bosses will be angry with me. I never doubted the bosses! YOU PROBABLY JUST WANT MY HEATING RATION! I'M GOING TO KILL YOU WITH THIS ROCK!
>> No. 461196 Anonymous
7th November 2023
Tuesday 12:57 am
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>>461192
All I took from that sentence was that I have made two mistakes.
>> No. 461197 Anonymous
7th November 2023
Tuesday 1:26 am
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>>461193
You say that like it is a bad thing.
>> No. 461198 Anonymous
7th November 2023
Tuesday 1:28 am
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>>461194

I don't remember there being any such thing as "Cleggmania", it was just as simple as their party being "the one you vote for if you're young". Labour had been in for ages so to my generation they were "the establishment", and the Tories were always just the Tories, but we didn't have enough information available to realise the LibDems are the political equivalent of piss that's been left to go cold overnight.
>> No. 461199 Anonymous
7th November 2023
Tuesday 1:33 am
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I am either a genius or an imbecile. My friend wanted me to make her a cheap knock-off of an artwork I showed her last year. I thought it would be a fun challenge. I found all the images used in the original artwork, but I couldn't find the right font for the text. It's now almost exactly a year since I stopped trying, and it only occurred to me a couple of weeks ago that I could just use a photo of the original text instead of trying to download the font somewhere.
>> No. 461200 Anonymous
7th November 2023
Tuesday 7:05 am
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There was "I agree with Nick", but there definitely wasn't Cleggmania.
>> No. 461205 Anonymous
7th November 2023
Tuesday 1:55 pm
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Is it just me or do you get a lot less corporate birthday messages these days? About 15 years ago my inbox would be full of companies sending birthday spam emails and even offering stuff but now nothing. Last year Lidl gave me a free doughnut but now there's just a birthday banner on the app.

I'll show them all once I work out what I actually want to have for lunch today.

>>461198
>>461200
I remember there definately being a few young people who decided to go with the Lib Dems. Especially given Labour's reputation at the time and being the party in office.

Funnily enough I was a Labour member at the time but switched to the Lib Dems. I don't even really mind Clegg, we were all supposed to vote for AV and get the ball rolling on electoral reform as part of a grand bargain to get Britain through the financial crisis. But we didn't because we don't like having power.
>> No. 461206 Anonymous
7th November 2023
Tuesday 2:07 pm
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>>461205
I seem to get more emails these days asking whether I want to opt out of their Father's Day/Christmas/Whatever promotional campaign.
>> No. 461208 Anonymous
7th November 2023
Tuesday 3:36 pm
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>>461199
More of me being a worthless simp but also a creative genius. She told me before that the reason she’s been ignoring me more than she usually does is “womanly issues”, rather than just being predictably sick of me. What a great friendship we have, because women don’t normally admit to such things. In fact, I know almost nothing about it. But I have devised a way for men to at last understand female calendar horrors: allow me to introduce the Rambo Scale.

The first Rambo film is a sensitive drama; you spend more time crying than anything else.
In the second Rambo film, he’s just angry all the time. People get killed.
The third Rambo film has almost no plot, just unrelenting bloodshed.

My friend has not yet told me which one she is because you can probably tell what sort of person I am already. A person who has very limited interactions with women, but who is really proud of all his abstract thoughts.
>> No. 461209 Anonymous
7th November 2023
Tuesday 3:41 pm
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>>461208

I prefer the FromSoft swamp rating system, from Blight Town to Lake of Rot.
>> No. 461211 Anonymous
7th November 2023
Tuesday 5:40 pm
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I've decided that Yorkshire puddings are better if you don't use milk. I've replaced 200ml of milk with two eggs and 100ml of water and it's a definite improvement.
>> No. 461221 Anonymous
8th November 2023
Wednesday 10:41 am
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I've decided to start listening to albums I wouldn't usually consider while I'm working from home and have a lot of hours in the day to fill. I've just finished my fourth Pink Floyd album (Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, Animals and The Wall). I know they change their sound a fair bit they've about a dozen other albums, are any of the others particularly worth it?
>> No. 461222 Anonymous
8th November 2023
Wednesday 1:34 pm
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>>461221

You've covered most of their "good" albums already, but I would certainly say Meddle, the one just before Dark Side, and the one that really shows them growing into that sound, is definitely worth a listen. Echoes is a great track, even if the Pompeii version is a much better performance. Possibly my favourite Pink Floyd song, in fact.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TToiePXjuR8

After that I'd say it's worth giving the first two albums (the Syd era ones, basically) a spin just for novelty value, but as pioneering and experimental as they might have been, they're very much an acquired taste. Everything between the first two and Meddle is basically shite, avoid. Everything after The Wall is basically shite, avoid. The Wall is in itself perhaps the most overrated, pretentious, and mediocre albums of all time.

Roger Waters gets a lot of shit nowadays, but he was pretty much carrying the band entirely on his own shoulders, and it shows after he left. David Gilmour is one of my favourite guitarists but he is highly overrated and not a very good songwriter.
>> No. 461223 Anonymous
8th November 2023
Wednesday 1:42 pm
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>>461222
Thanks, ladm8. Of the four I listened to I'd say The Wall was probably my favourite, I think that's because the entire thing felt like a play, although I'd probably class Wish You Were Here as the best out of them.
>> No. 461225 Anonymous
8th November 2023
Wednesday 5:23 pm
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Today my colleagues were bitching about another colleague, and calling him weird and autistic. Most people shit talk him behind his back, even my manager. He is almost definitely a sperg, but he's not a bad guy. He just likes to do a good job, and will let people know when they've made mistakes.

I have a meeting next week where I have to prove I'm not too disabled to work. Would bringing up institutionalised ableist bullying be a power move?
>> No. 461226 Anonymous
8th November 2023
Wednesday 5:33 pm
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>>461225

Only if you do it very obliquely. Power speaks in whispers. It's definitely in your interests to imply that the department is institutionally ableist and if you were found to be unfit for work you'd have a solid case at an Employment Tribunal, but it'd be a serious mistake to use anything resembling those words. If they feel like you're threatening them then you're fucked, but if you drop some hints and they feel like they've figured it out for themselves, you're golden.
>> No. 461227 Anonymous
8th November 2023
Wednesday 7:09 pm
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>>461226
Will you example the difference between heavy handed and subtle in this context? Not that guy, by the way.
>> No. 461228 Anonymous
8th November 2023
Wednesday 7:36 pm
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I have a whole tub of custard left over from pudding (damn you, big strudel) so I'm drinking it from a cup like hot chocolate.
Thought you might like to know.
>> No. 461229 Anonymous
8th November 2023
Wednesday 7:43 pm
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>>461228
Make sure you don't get any on your Fruit of the Loom t-shirts. I imagine custard would be a right bugger to get out.
>> No. 461230 Anonymous
8th November 2023
Wednesday 7:51 pm
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>>461229
You well know there's worse than custard on my shirts.
>> No. 461231 Anonymous
8th November 2023
Wednesday 7:56 pm
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>>461225
Me and my colleagues always complain about our manager behind his back, because although half the time he's fine, the other half of the time he is a bit of a cunt.

Specifically, he becomes all uncommunicative and self pitying, never makes efforts to improve things but then treats people very condescendingly when they try to improve things (he's by far the least driven employee and scorns other people's efforts) and if he's unhappy with something he will put somebody on the spot and ask them lots of brief questions with no apparent objective, until it slowly becomes clear what an idiot he thinks they are for making such and such minor mistake. He also flirts inappropriately with the female colleagues, and very clearly treats the ones he doesn't fancy quite badly compared to those he does. I do remember when I started he was nice for a month and then suddenly did all this unpredictable and cowardly shaming behaviour on me which made working there feel like being followed about by a black cloud all the time, but after about half a year he stopped treating me like that. His absurd, theatrical self-pity I just find funny, but it seems to cause quite a lot of discomfort to the women who work there.

And for those reasons we bitch about him all the time and make fun of him behind his back. But sometimes I find myself wondering if doing that is beneath me, if it's encouraging an animosity that will just make everything worse for everyone, even if he isn't going to change. Do any of you older, wiser lads have any thoughts on that?
>> No. 461232 Anonymous
8th November 2023
Wednesday 8:06 pm
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>>461227

It's quite tricky to give examples of subtlety, because it will always heavily depend on context and subtext. The examples I give below aren't as careful or as accurate as they should be, but they're the best I can do without fully understanding all the details.

If they were to ask something like "do you have any concerns about returning to work", the obvious heavy-handed response would be something like "everyone's talking about Spergy Joe behind his back and the management don't seem to care about blatant ableist bullying".

A subtle response would be something like "I'm excited to be back, but I am a little bit nervous about fitting back into the team after my absence. In one of my previous jobs there was quite a hostile attitude to people with long-term health problems that sometimes bordered on bullying, which often caused more problems in terms of absenteeism than people's actual illness. I haven't been back long and I'm still just feeling a little bit uncertain, but I'm confident that management wouldn't allow anything like that to happen here." You aren't accusing anyone of anything, you aren't saying anything that could be used against you in terms of your fitness to work, but you are raising the salience of an issue that they're either aware of or really should be aware of.

If they were to ask something like "what could we do to help keep you in work?", you could say something like "I feel absolutely ready to work, I don't think I need anything in terms of adaptations, but I am a little bit worried about what my colleagues might think. I'm sure it won't be an issue, but I just don't want anyone to see me as the weak link in the team. If people don't know that I'm fully ready for work, they might get the idea that I'm not back permanently and with no malice on their part I could end up being somewhat sidelined." Again, no accusations, no admissions of weakness on your part, you're just mentioning hypothetical worries that any competent employer would take care of.
>> No. 461233 Anonymous
8th November 2023
Wednesday 8:20 pm
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>>461231

There's no point in kicking up a fuss and potentially making enemies with your colleagues, but I think it's important to recognise that things are probably only going to get worse within the team. The fish rots from the head, so if your manager can't be arsed, everyone under him is going to be tarnished.

If I were in your shoes, I'd just keep my head down, look for an opportunity for a sideways move and seriously consider finding a different job. Any employer worth working for is going to be delighted if you can sincerely tell them "I'm not happy at my current job, because there's a real atmosphere of complacency. I take pride in my work, but my team aren't being given the opportunity to go the extra mile and show what they're really capable of".
>> No. 461234 Anonymous
8th November 2023
Wednesday 8:31 pm
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Apparently Yahtzee and the entire video team at The Escapist have all been either fired or walked out in solidarity with the ones who were fired. So that's the end of an era that is.

Genuinely feel a bit weird about it, it's only a daft Internet video series, but I have been watching those daft internet videos week in week out since I was 17. Almost bang on half my entire life. It is, quite frankly, one of the only things I can think of that has stayed constant and reliable in my adult life; while people have come and gone, relationships grown and then unravelled, moved from place to place, it's always been a comforting little ritual to stick ZP on while I have my tea every Wednesday.

What am I gonna do now?
>> No. 461236 Anonymous
8th November 2023
Wednesday 8:48 pm
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>>461234
The videos stopped playing for me a few years ago, so I assumed they had just ended. Also, I could have sworn The Escapist itself went out of business back when all the online content farms did, in 201(7? 9?). I would always watch Zero Punctuation until I couldn't any more, and then I just stopped and never looked back.

Were the videos still good? Not as good as they originally were, obviously, but still as good as they used to be back when they first had their own theme tune?
>> No. 461237 Anonymous
8th November 2023
Wednesday 9:04 pm
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>>461234
>>461236
When I saw this I felt very strange, knowing that ZP has existed for over half my 31 year life. I didn't watch him for probably a decade, but in the last year got back into it. It's much the same, but he has enough half decent jokes and opinions to make it worth watching. Maybe whatever he goes onto next will allow him to drop the fedora.
>> No. 461238 Anonymous
8th November 2023
Wednesday 9:22 pm
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>>461236

They were alright, nothing to write home about but frankly after a certain point I was only watching out of habit anyway. It certainly never crashed off a cliff in terms of quality though.

Some episodes were always funnier than others, like with anything, but I think mostly the fact they were only ever five minutes long with extremely simple "animation", if you can even call it that, means he was able to stay pretty consistent with it.
>> No. 461239 Anonymous
8th November 2023
Wednesday 10:48 pm
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>>461234

It's mental to think that ZP lasted 16 years, which is ancient in online terms, literally half the age of the Internet itself, I can't think of any other web sieries that have lasted that long.
>> No. 461241 Anonymous
9th November 2023
Thursday 10:50 am
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I've got a woman aged somewhere around 50 in the secret Santa at work. Reckon a tenner's worth of booze will do it?
>> No. 461242 Anonymous
9th November 2023
Thursday 11:27 am
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How can I feel so tired after going to sleep at 11pm and waking up at 7am, but if I decide to sleep on the sofa at 2am and wake up at six I'll be absolutely fine.

>>461241
Recent studies have shown you probably will be.
>> No. 461243 Anonymous
9th November 2023
Thursday 12:56 pm
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I think the lass I'm having an affair with is a tory.
>> No. 461244 Anonymous
9th November 2023
Thursday 1:16 pm
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>>461243
Last time I accused my girlfriend of being racist her response was essentially:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbud8rLejLM
>> No. 461245 Anonymous
9th November 2023
Thursday 1:31 pm
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>>461243

My last girlfriend had a copy of Men Kampf. I just thought it showed she was interested in history, but looking back I suspect she never really showed me her true worldview. Should have seen it as a red flag in hindsight.
>> No. 461246 Anonymous
9th November 2023
Thursday 1:46 pm
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>>461245
Alice?
>> No. 461247 Anonymous
9th November 2023
Thursday 2:02 pm
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>>461246

Sadly not, but almost certainly just as mental.

I do worry that at my age I've well and truly missed the boat on a normal and mentally stable girlfriend, and this is what I will have to deal with lest I die alone.
>> No. 461249 Anonymous
9th November 2023
Thursday 2:39 pm
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>>461245
Maybe she just picked up 'Men Kampf' to impress you having glanced at that britfags website you're so fond of?

I'm not even sure how you handle imageboards in a relationship actually. I've always kept it a secret, not least as it's somewhere I should be able to talk anonymously about life without it being a permanent record for all to see.
>> No. 461251 Anonymous
9th November 2023
Thursday 2:54 pm
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>>461249

I've never quite kept so secret as to deliberately hide that I use places like this, but I would certainly never bring it up. But I share your sentiment, I talk about stuff here I might not talk about with anyone IRL, including a partner, and I think that's valuable.

Or is it? Maybe it's actually unhealthy.
>> No. 461252 Anonymous
9th November 2023
Thursday 3:15 pm
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>>461251
I view it like talking to the lads at the pub. It should be a place where you can talk frankly without fear of your wife, job or government looking over your shoulder. The same as she will talk with the girls without sanitising it for your own ears - and you probably don't want to hear that even if you could.

If your secret garden is ever breached then it loses a lot of the appeal I suspect. And your Mrs will probably assume all the posts are your own.
>> No. 461253 Anonymous
9th November 2023
Thursday 3:19 pm
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>>461251
I tell anyone who will listen about “my online communities” but I try not to let them know any of those communities in case they visit them. I will send a screenshot occasionally if this site, if one of you made a funny joke (you never do, but sometimes you help to set up one of my own trenchant witticisms), but I crop this place’s name out just like I do for 4chan or any forum where I have an account.
>> No. 461254 Anonymous
9th November 2023
Thursday 3:23 pm
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>>461249

What I look at on the internet really doesn't come up in conversation that much. Britfa.gs is a nice way to pass time for me, but there's not much I say here that I couldn't to friends or my partner.
>> No. 461255 Anonymous
9th November 2023
Thursday 3:35 pm
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>>461245
>>461249
The fact both of you misspelled it as "Men" Kampf made me double-check that it wasn't some fisherperson diatribe equating contemporary men to the Nazi party. I am thoroughly surprised.
>> No. 461256 Anonymous
9th November 2023
Thursday 3:50 pm
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>>461253
>I will send a screenshot occasionally if this site, if one of you made a funny joke (you never do, but sometimes you help to set up one of my own trenchant witticisms), but I crop this place’s name out just like I do for 4chan or any forum where I have an account.

Fucking hell, even revengelad has mellowed out in his dotage.
>> No. 461257 Anonymous
9th November 2023
Thursday 4:06 pm
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>>461255

It was a typo on my part, and otherlad made it into a joke. Like, brit fags, camp men.

Solid idea though, I'll got get ChatGPT to write that for me and make millions off of blue hairs.
>> No. 461258 Anonymous
9th November 2023
Thursday 4:14 pm
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This is a pretty wretched series of posts. Sometimes it's quite shocking to be reminded how thick a lot of you are.
>> No. 461259 Anonymous
9th November 2023
Thursday 4:31 pm
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>>461254
Surely everything posted on /emo/ should be considered secret though?

>>461258
You're just jealous that nobody cares about you. But we care.
>> No. 461260 Anonymous
9th November 2023
Thursday 4:47 pm
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>>461258
It'll be all the 5'7" and 5'8" lads. They're having to breathe in an inferior quality of air whereas us tall kings are less exposed to pollution. Rots their brain, you see.
>> No. 461261 Anonymous
9th November 2023
Thursday 5:10 pm
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>>461258

What's so "wretched" about people discussing if they tell people they post here or not? I'm genuinely curious what you find so objectionable.
>> No. 461262 Anonymous
9th November 2023
Thursday 8:01 pm
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What do you lads reckon Alice Cutter is up to these days?
>> No. 461263 Anonymous
9th November 2023
Thursday 8:03 pm
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>>461262
Ach, y'know. Cuttin' about.
>> No. 461264 Anonymous
9th November 2023
Thursday 8:19 pm
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>>461260
I don't like the fact that you're absolutely right. I'm fascinated to know to what extent other people mention their own online anonymity when they aren't currently anonymous. I'm also the same poster who's shorter than the rest of you, even the heroin addicts who grew up in a bucket under a bridge. And I can tell you're the same motherfucker who asked me how Merry and Pippin were doing.
>> No. 461265 Anonymous
9th November 2023
Thursday 8:23 pm
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>>461264
>And I can tell you're the same motherfucker who asked me how Merry and Pippin were doing.

Swing and a miss, petitelad.
>> No. 461266 Anonymous
9th November 2023
Thursday 8:37 pm
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>>461264

Nah that was me. And it was only a joke mate, don't be so short tempered.
>> No. 461267 Anonymous
9th November 2023
Thursday 8:59 pm
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>>461265
>>461266
Oh well. You all look the same to me anyway.
>> No. 461268 Anonymous
9th November 2023
Thursday 9:06 pm
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Just for the record I think you're wankers regardless of your height.
>> No. 461269 Anonymous
9th November 2023
Thursday 9:11 pm
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>>461268
Don't be like that, I love you even though you're a shortie.
>> No. 461270 Anonymous
10th November 2023
Friday 12:30 am
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>>461269
I don't think you're very good at paying attention.
>> No. 461271 Anonymous
10th November 2023
Friday 10:56 am
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Just rung up the Student Loans Company to get a settlement figure. It's showing online that I owe about £1,830 but the figure I was given if I want to pay it off in full is almost £15 higher, which seems a bit cheeky. I think I'll do it in three weeks, after I'm paid and after I've won fuck all on the premium bonds again.
>> No. 461272 Anonymous
10th November 2023
Friday 11:10 am
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I shouldn't be this annoyed that the British Army didn't procure CV90, and instead pissed away time and money on Ajax, but I am. I think it's deferred anger about all the other problems in the country, it's just a nice clear cut cock-up that probably won't have any really negative consequences.
>> No. 461273 Anonymous
10th November 2023
Friday 12:04 pm
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>>461272

I feel the same way whenever the government announces a new IT contract. I cannot understand how we keep fucking up billion-pound procurement contracts in exactly the same ways over and over again. You know the situation is fucked when you're hoping that it's corruption, because the only plausible alternative is that the government really are that thick.

Ajax wouldn't be so galling if it wasn't for Nimrod AEW3 and Bowman and the SA-80. It's as if some ancient act of parliament requires us to embark upon a completely idiotic procurement project at least once per decade. I get the vivid image of Æthelstan the Great spunking four hundredweight of silver on swords from a mad blind saddlemaker who doesn't know what a sword is, but reckons he can have a go if someone just describes what one is supposed to look like.
>> No. 461275 Anonymous
10th November 2023
Friday 7:54 pm
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My dad, at the age of 72, is considering getting his first mobile phone. Do they do special phones for old people, with magnified screens or whatever? He is completely tech illiterate; he's never used a computer on his life, possibly doesn't even have a bank card and has a deep mistrust of his dishwasher.
>> No. 461276 Anonymous
10th November 2023
Friday 7:57 pm
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>>461275

>Do they do special phones for old people, with magnified screens or whatever?

Yes.

https://www.doro.com/en-gb
>> No. 461287 Anonymous
11th November 2023
Saturday 12:08 am
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>>461273

I worked for a small military R&D company who I won't name, but we always worked hard and got our contracts done on time. Some of the smartest people I ever met worked there. I'll never understand how these big companies keep getting contracts and consistently fucking it up.
>> No. 461323 Anonymous
12th November 2023
Sunday 5:01 pm
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>>461287
Isn't it because the skills needed to bid for these contracts (vast paperwork) has nothing in common with the ability to deliver the work? You'd think that companies would exist to do the paperwork and then pimp the work out to proper shops, but they all seem to do it, very badly, internally.
Also, obligatory, if the government knew what they fucking wanted, and could specify worth a damn, things would go less wrong. But the civil service is an abomination that must be squashed, so bidding is done on a wild guess. No wonder it all works so well.
>> No. 461333 Anonymous
13th November 2023
Monday 6:26 am
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>>461323
>Isn't it because the skills needed to bid for these contracts (vast paperwork) has nothing in common with the ability to deliver the work?

Exactly this. I work for a minor bit of government and I get to work on procurement projects quite a lot. You have highlighted the exact problem - it takes so much work to get through a bid tender process, all the paperwork etc, that it's a completely different set of skills from doing the work.

Large companies put enormous amount of effort in tendering for the work, because once you get your head around the paperwork and process, working for government contracts is money for old rope. Once they get the contracts, they do fuck all.
>> No. 461336 Anonymous
13th November 2023
Monday 10:20 am
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For some reason my Google news feed on my phone thinks I'm really interested in heritage railways.
>> No. 461337 Anonymous
13th November 2023
Monday 2:10 pm
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>>461336
Alright, Daz? We're still on for the Rudgwick Steam Show next weekend, yeah?
>> No. 461340 Anonymous
13th November 2023
Monday 6:28 pm
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There's a Jehovah's Witness at work, and she can only wear long skirts, trousers are forbidden. I would consider trousers more conservative than a skirt if they're not tight ones. Maybe skirts are more "feminine"? Wonder what possesses someone to be a JW. One of the worst mainstream denominations.
>> No. 461341 Anonymous
13th November 2023
Monday 6:39 pm
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>>461340
We had a Jehova in our class at primary school. I wish I could remember her surname so I could see what she's up to now. All I really remember is that she was quiet and got to skip morning assembly and RE.

I think the only other Jehova I've known was a lad who also got a Christmas job at Toys R Us at the same time as me. He had the shiniest shoes I've ever seen. He was alright, actually.
>> No. 461342 Anonymous
13th November 2023
Monday 11:12 pm
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You tried this bread with olives in they've got now? If I find out the olives are sourced from illegal settlements in the West Bank I'll kill myself.
>> No. 461343 Anonymous
14th November 2023
Tuesday 7:21 am
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>>461342
Just stick with focacci. Fuck olives.
>> No. 461344 Anonymous
14th November 2023
Tuesday 8:35 pm
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They've arrested that hockey player who sliced an opponent's neck open. I'm not surprised, seeing as he full on karate kicked him in the throat.
>> No. 461350 Anonymous
15th November 2023
Wednesday 3:52 pm
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If I start a bonfire directly under power lines will they be affected by the heat or do I have to move all this wood again before I light it?
>> No. 461352 Anonymous
15th November 2023
Wednesday 4:08 pm
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>>461350

When metal gets hot, it physically expands and decreases in electrical conductivity. This is because the electrons have further to travel and they'll need to stop for a cold drink more often. Energy companies will be forced to pay out of pocket for that to ensure your electricity arrives on time, and as a result Ofgem's price cap will go up by another £1000 in summer next year.

So I'd think twice if I were you.
>> No. 461353 Anonymous
15th November 2023
Wednesday 4:22 pm
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>>461352
I don't know if they're coated in weatherproof insulation or something that the heat could damage.
>> No. 461354 Anonymous
15th November 2023
Wednesday 5:21 pm
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>>461350
A friend of mine once accidentally hit a powerline with a thrown stone, 5 minutes later a low flying helicopter came along the entire length of the line. Donno if the events were connected but he paniked and shit himself.
>> No. 461355 Anonymous
15th November 2023
Wednesday 9:08 pm
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>>461353

Overhead lines aren't insulated, other than by the air gap. The bare wires are made of aluminium, usually reinforced with steel; you'd have to get them seriously hot (north of 600 celsius) to jeopardise their integrity. Unless your bonfire looks like something that the loyalists would build in Northern Ireland, the power line will be fine.
>> No. 461357 Anonymous
15th November 2023
Wednesday 9:31 pm
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>>461350
What kind of power lines?
Direct 240V feeds to the house? Do _not_ light a decent bonfire under that. They're low, and either insulated and bundled, or just insulated, often with stuff from 1950.
Medium voltage stuff (11kV, 32kV on wooden poles or relatively simple lattice pylons) - probably ok. They're higher and not insulated, in general.
High voltage-massive pylons. Meh, have at it. They're so high you'll really struggle to affect them. That said, if you do manage to get a flame all the way up there, you might manage to pull a massive arc through the ionised flame to ground, which will be exciting.
>> No. 461358 Anonymous
15th November 2023
Wednesday 9:37 pm
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>>461355
I'm not sure your 600oC is right, aluminium gets crappy well before that.
This feels wrong in the other direction though -
The standard cables used are called ACSR (Aluminum Conductor Steel Reinforced) and the strength of the cable is shared between the steel core and the aluminum strands. Above 93°C the aluminum used (AL1350-H19) looses its heat treatment and it's breaking strength goes down. Eventually with some extra wind, or other loading conditions it might fail. Possibly the lower strength lowers the resistance to fatigue and thus aeolian vibrations might make the cable fail. More reading here and here.
>> No. 461359 Anonymous
15th November 2023
Wednesday 11:17 pm
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>>461357

It's between two wooden poles not to the house but there's definitely enough wood for the flame to just about reach. I think I've decided against it, I'll have to lug all that shit further off.
>> No. 461361 Anonymous
16th November 2023
Thursday 12:34 pm
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Chicago Town are doing a cheese and cranberry pizza, with 10% of the proceeds going to breast cancer.
>> No. 461362 Anonymous
16th November 2023
Thursday 1:54 pm
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Need to buy a black suit for a family funeral. I bought one two years ago but I've put on 1.5 stone since then. It's mainly the pants which no longer fit. Maybe I'll find a pair that looks similar so I can buy them separately.

Suits really don't come cheap these days if you don't want to look like poor relations.
>> No. 461364 Anonymous
17th November 2023
Friday 7:40 am
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My Google news feed on my phone has gone from promoting stories about heritage railways to promoting tabloid articles which are thinly veiled OnlyFans promotions. The strange is yesterday it was promoting an article on The Sun which is about one of the camwhores who regularly posts on the fat porn subrudgwicksteamshow.co.uks, so it felt odd reading about someone I recognised; couldn't ever wank to her though because her body is disgusting.
>> No. 461409 Anonymous
20th November 2023
Monday 10:22 am
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You've gone all quiet again.
>> No. 461410 Anonymous
20th November 2023
Monday 11:19 am
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>>461409
Have you hidden the weekend thread?
>> No. 461411 Anonymous
20th November 2023
Monday 11:25 am
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>>461410
It's Monday and you went all weird talking semantics over spanking.
>> No. 461413 Anonymous
20th November 2023
Monday 12:21 pm
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>>461411

I feel like there's a book in here, somewhere. One of those middlebrow train station shop titles, you know, that are written by an academic but with a popular audience in mind. "The Politics of Spanking" or "Sub or Dom(me)?" or something.
>> No. 461414 Anonymous
20th November 2023
Monday 12:42 pm
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This cold and damp weather is depressing me.

I'm toying with the idea of going somewhere for a week to ten days. Cuba or the Caribbean. Just somewhere that's less cold and damp.

A friend likes to go to Majorca in mid-autumn every year. But it looks like it's only 18 degrees there right now. Which means it's less shit than here, but you can't really do anything.
>> No. 461415 Anonymous
20th November 2023
Monday 1:04 pm
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>>461409
I had two potentially monumental personal experiences last night, but they both went a bit wonky so I wasn’t going to post about them. Since you ask, though:

I have been trying to win the same magazine competition for many years, perhaps even as long as a decade. By my calculations, I should have won by now, but it just doesn’t happen. I have even sent letters to the editor of the magazine asking if I’ve been banned from winning or something. Yesterday, as I was entering the competition once again, I noticed that one of the runners-up was me, but living somewhere else. This is such great news, except I haven’t got the runner-up prize I wanted and since the address is wrong, there might just be someone out there with the same name as me. It’s not an especially common name, but I can’t give any more details or I would be doxxing myself instantly. So I’m a bit confused.

Also, I am very passionate about old foreign pop music, and I have a record player now so I could actually buy the old communist records I have been so desperate to own for six or seven years now (I’m a slow mover). I found a shop in Hungary which sells them, and I emailed to ask if they would post them to England, and I didn’t fully understand their reply. I stayed up till 3am last night ordering 24 different vinyl records, and I got to the payment page and there was an error. So perhaps they need to post them manually.

But like I say, two of the great goals of my life, achieved within 24 hours, but a giant asterisk next to both of them and maybe I have achieved nothing except making myself very tired today.
>> No. 461416 Anonymous
20th November 2023
Monday 1:17 pm
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>>461415
Go on holiday to Hungary and buy them in the shop? Can probably get a cheap flight that won't be much different to the postage costs.
>> No. 461420 Anonymous
20th November 2023
Monday 2:36 pm
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>>461416
I have genuinely considered this on several occasions.
>> No. 461421 Anonymous
20th November 2023
Monday 2:41 pm
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>>461420
Do it. What's stopping you?
>> No. 461423 Anonymous
20th November 2023
Monday 3:29 pm
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>>461421
If I’m going to do it, I might as well make a big holiday out of it. This requires much more planning. I don’t know where any of the shops are, and I’m scared I won’t do a good job of finding them all. And even if I do, what if they’re shut? They won’t all be, but only a couple need to close down before the trip is no longer worth it. After all, there are some specific albums which might be very rare.

Imagine if you wanted to buy five Cliff Richard albums, five Boney M albums, and two Paul Simon albums, and you have a weekend in Birmingham to do it. Would you go to Birmingham, or would you see if they could deliver? Surely you would choose the latter to begin with.
>> No. 461424 Anonymous
20th November 2023
Monday 3:47 pm
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>>461423
I would avoid Birmingham at all costs.
>> No. 461425 Anonymous
20th November 2023
Monday 4:24 pm
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>>461423

Most shops will hold stuff behind the counter for you if you know they have it and are planning on visiting. Might be a bit of a language barrier to communicate it with Hungarian shops but still worth a go. I'd possibly suggest you visit one of those international rudgwicks and find somebody to translate for you to make sure the message is clear.

Oh wait ChatGPT exists doesn't it, it basically makes Google Translate obsolete for languages. It seemed to work near flawlessly when I was practicing Czech with it, but I probably still wouldn't rely on it fully.
>> No. 461426 Anonymous
20th November 2023
Monday 8:56 pm
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Do we got any farmer types at Britfa.gs?
Would anyone give me a brief rundown on how the UK cerial industries work, particularly from a logistics viewpoint (but not limited to if you think something is particularly interesting).

I'm interested to learn where this Tesco brand oat bran I hold has come from; first the oats, then where it was milled, etc. What goes into the entire process, how can each stage be tracked?

My limited capacity for self-research has returned a handful of millers across the UK, but actually tracking a specific branded package - nothing.
>> No. 461427 Anonymous
20th November 2023
Monday 8:59 pm
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My usual thyme tea isn't helping in getting rid of my covid related cough.

It's very effective against bacterial bronchitis due to its antiseptic properties, but covid being a bad viral infection, apparently it doesn't help as much.

I can still recommend it though. Hot thyme tea with about a tablespoon of honey not only tastes nice but also really soothes your throat and bronchi when you've got a cold.
>> No. 461429 Anonymous
20th November 2023
Monday 9:38 pm
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>>461426

We've definitely got a farmer and I think he does arable, but he's probably in bed by now.
>> No. 461430 Anonymous
20th November 2023
Monday 10:40 pm
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I've got a tummy ache. I can't tell if it's like, the hungry kind of feeling, or just something that I have eaten doesn't agree with me.

I suspect the shitty Iceland noodles I've been living off recently because I'm skint might be to blame, I thought they would be reasonably because they've got a decent mix of veg in, but when I look at the nutrition on the pack they're basically not even food. Eating a full pack (2 portions, supposedly) is barely even 700 calories.

I'm impressed at how it's even possible to have such a big portion of food contain so little actual sustenance. How on earth are the sorts of people who eat this shit all the time so fat?
>> No. 461431 Anonymous
20th November 2023
Monday 10:57 pm
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>>461429
I'm a farmer in a small way, and I'm definitely in arable country. We don't really do oats here, it's more wheat and barley (and 'taters and beets and beans, in lesser amounts). I'm also dead-dad-lad, so I'm never sleeping again, it feels.
I don't think you'll be able to track your oatbran's history unless Tesco have done the work for you. Round here, there's a mix of contract farming (where there are sometimes signs hammered into the corner of a field saying 'proud to be growing for weetabix' or whoever, where the crop is either completely controlled by weetabix, using either a tenant farmer or owning the land and using contractors to farm it), or farmers (usually old families) farming their own and leased land, using their own gear and contractors sometimes, then either storing the crop themselves and selling it on the spot or contracted market, or dumping it into a cooperative or combined grain store and having the coop haggle and deliver. Then there's the perpetual drive to get your crop assayed as good enough for seed or malting, where >nn% has to sprout in a test facility, and that gets you a premium price, but it has a smaller window for harvest and you can't have sprayed it off before you harvest. Alternatively, if the weather's been shit or you couldn't get it harvested at the right time because of logistics or machinery issues, it goes for animal feed and you get fuck-all.
As for milling, I don't know - last I see of the grains is when they get unloaded from the grain stores into the artics and taken away, followed by either grumbling or relief from my neighbours about the price. It's an absurdly gamble-y process, and a good or bad year has real effects. Two of either even more so. I'm just grateful farming's just a bit extra, I have a regular job too.
Your oatmeal is probably something that gets bagged up which would otherwise go to animal feed, as I imagine there's more made than is needed for people. I doubt Tesco pay much for the raw stuff, but all the bagging, transport, storage, stocking, shelving, checking-out, tax-dodging will add up. Doubt that helped, there are probably youtube videos about this stuff. Farming's fascinating and ferocious, though, have a good rummage.
>> No. 461432 Anonymous
21st November 2023
Tuesday 12:18 am
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>>461430
I've never understood the false-economy people fall into with noodles. The sorts of people who eat them aren't fat, they're emaciated students who simply don't have the confidence for 'owt else. They're by no means cheap, come highly processed and are primarily designed to be eaten as part of rich stews in a culture of skinny people.

Next time get yourself a big sack of potatoes and some lentils. And if you can afford anything beyond that then eggs, tinned pilchards and whatever fruit is cheap. Be sure to complete the look with some heavily soiled tracky bottoms, a moth-eaten pullover and a run down flat that you moved into after you split with the wife when the drinking got too much.
>> No. 461433 Anonymous
21st November 2023
Tuesday 1:07 am
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>>461432

I'm not on about Super Noodles here, I mean these frozen "ready meal" type things which I keep in the freezer as back-up food; the economy of them to me isn't the price per calorie, it's simply the fact I can keep four bags in the freezer for months on end, and they are zero effort to cook.

The are ostensibly actual meals, with meat and vegetables in, and when you eat it it does feel like a decent approximation of a takeaway chow mein. But it's just somehow completely nutritionally empty.

Anyway fuck lentils, they're shite. I'm not desperate here, it's just one of those months where I've gone a bit over budget so I'm cutting corners elsewhere.
>> No. 461435 Anonymous
21st November 2023
Tuesday 12:01 pm
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>LadBaby scraps Christmas single for first time after ‘whirlwind’ five years
https://The Metro is owned by the Daily Mail./2023/11/21/ladbaby-scrap-christmas-single-first-time-five-years-19849302/

Will this be Andrew's year?
>> No. 461436 Anonymous
21st November 2023
Tuesday 1:17 pm
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>>461430

I ended up being up til about 5am in agony and nausea until I finally vommed, before I could get to sleep. Jesus fucking christ I haven't been that painfully, torturously sick in years and years.

Don't know if I am still blaming the shiteland noodles but I certainly won't be eating them again for a while.
>> No. 461437 Anonymous
21st November 2023
Tuesday 1:26 pm
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>>461435
I think he's been too busy on his holibobs to write another Christmas masterpiece.
>> No. 461438 Anonymous
21st November 2023
Tuesday 8:18 pm
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Today I learned that sheep are so misshapen and so stupid that if they roll onto their back, they just get stuck until they die. They're completely incapable of rolling over onto their feet. What a fucking embarrassment of a species.
>> No. 461439 Anonymous
21st November 2023
Tuesday 9:00 pm
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>>461438

Aren't you confusing that with turtles?

Like the old blonde joke.

What do a blonde and a turtle have in common? - They're both fucked when they're on their back.

Doesn't have the same ring with blondes and sheeps.
>> No. 461440 Anonymous
21st November 2023
Tuesday 9:04 pm
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A few weeks ago my mother-in-law received calls from her bank about potentially fraudulent activity on her account, which she decided to ignore. She's now complaining that her bank have blocked her card so she was unable to buy something at the weekend; they've blocked it because fraudsters made hundreds of pounds worth of transactions.
>> No. 461441 Anonymous
21st November 2023
Tuesday 10:05 pm
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Do people still do Movember?
>> No. 461443 Anonymous
22nd November 2023
Wednesday 1:43 am
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>>461440
I briefly worked on the other side of this one, you would not believe how blasé some people are when it comes to fraud.

And then there are the ones who are racist to you because they think you're Indian or the bright-spark that decided to threaten to kill a girl I worked with and got himself blacklisted from every bank in the country for it. I think >>461438 needs to revaluate his stance on sheep.

>>461441
I did it at the start but had to shave it off last week for a meeting. I didn't look too bad to be honest but I have that horrible condition where it doesn't grow in the middle bit.
>> No. 461444 Anonymous
22nd November 2023
Wednesday 2:00 am
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>>461440
>A few weeks ago my mother-in-law received calls from her bank about potentially fraudulent activity on her account, which she decided to ignore.
Given that a very common form of fraud involves receiving calls purporting to be from your bank about potentially fraudulent activity on your account, I'm not sure she can be blamed entirely for that.
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22nd November 2023
Wednesday 5:46 am
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>>461444

It's not entirely her fault, but there's a very easy way to check - ring your bank using the number on the back of your card.

>>461439

Nah, sheep really are that fucking useless. They don't even have the excuse of a shell. Farmerlad can probably confirm, but apparently sheep are just pathologically stupid and constantly find idiotic ways to kill themselves.


>> No. 461446 Anonymous
22nd November 2023
Wednesday 7:40 am
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>>461445
This is definitely an issue, but it's not because sheep are stupid, it's because we've bred them so all the mass is up top. Big meaty bodies and thick wool mean that they just can't roll over. If you ever have the delight of trying to move a dead sheep, the fleece makes it really hard to move them, it's like pushing a car on a flat tyre.
Proper sheep, the feral rare breed ones, don't suffer from this, they're smaller, lighter and a bit less wooly.
I won't say that sheep don't get themselves in trouble and sometimes die in the most idiotic ways, but they're hard done by. They also mask illnesses until they're almost dead, to avoid being shunned by the flock, so they have the reputation for being fragile. They're not. By the time a sheep dies of fly strike, for instance, you'd have been screaming for a week.
Sheep are great beasties, fiesty individuals with absolutely no respect for rules, and if your life permits, a small flock of the buggers is a wonderful thing. Much better than bastard horses.
And yes, if you see one stranded, have a go at saving it. Both the sheep and the owner will be grateful. Well, the sheep won't, it'll just go about its day, and still be alive. But I cry like a motherfucker when my sheep die, and you might delay that day. I'd be grateful.
>> No. 461447 Anonymous
22nd November 2023
Wednesday 1:26 pm
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NATIONAL INSURANCE DOWN FROM 12% TO 10% STARTING IN JANUARY. WE'RE GONNA BE FUCKING MINTED.
>> No. 461448 Anonymous
22nd November 2023
Wednesday 2:20 pm
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Joined a gym, but as it's a salary sacrifice scheme it means the membership doesn't start until Jan 1st. What are some gym essential gear/exercise? I'm a fat cunt (6'2, 123kg), though I am losing weight through diet. I am unfit cunt, I have no upper body strength and I get out of breath going up the stairs. Are joggers, a t-shirt and running shoes fine for gym use? I need to really improve my cardio health, but I also want to lose my moobs and love handles. What sort of classes are good for an exercise beginner?
>> No. 461449 Anonymous
22nd November 2023
Wednesday 2:35 pm
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>>461447
Will people ever lose faith in the magical tax cuts? Every tax cut the Conservatives have ever given me could be summarised each time as, “You’ll get an extra £8.50 a month, and in return there are no more schools and anyone who sprains their ankle will be left to die in the street.”
>> No. 461450 Anonymous
22nd November 2023
Wednesday 2:42 pm
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>>461446
>Proper sheep, the feral rare breed ones, don't suffer from this, they're smaller, lighter and a bit less wooly.
I once saw an image of a suposedly wild sheep with insanely matted thick hair - I liked the idea that it provided a natural armour against teeth and the like.
>> No. 461451 Anonymous
22nd November 2023
Wednesday 2:54 pm
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>>461448

Joggers, t-shirt, and running shoes are good gym attire. If you're naturally hot-blooded, you might want to consider shorts instead of joggers to cool your body down quicker. Zip pockets will help to stop your phone or earbuds flying out of your pockets. You might also want to bring a water bottle and a little padlock if they use lockers there.

Almost every gym will have a few classes marked very clearly labelled "beginners", so I'd just go with what takes your fancy out of them.

If you find you're not a social exerciser, you can also just go in and try the machines, almost all of them will have instructions on them. The fancier cardio machines will have screens that clearly show beginner settings. If you do go the solo route, I'd say: don't get lost in the reeds with complicated programmes yet, the main thing for the first few weeks is just make exercise a habit and enjoy it.
>> No. 461452 Anonymous
22nd November 2023
Wednesday 3:28 pm
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>>461448
You want quick drying and breathable t-shirts rather than cotton. You can get Under Armour tops cheap enough online or I'd suggest going somewhere like TKMaxx.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Under-Armour-Short-Sleeve-Shirt-Graphite/dp/B0785VXRX2/

If you keep a regular eye on Hot UK Deals then you can get shorts and trackies quite cheap now and then, e.g.

https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/adidas-male-adult-train-essentials-pique-3-stripes-training-shorts-balck-4239594

https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/adidas-mens-tiro-23-competition-training-tracksuit-bottoms-4222903

>>461449
I'm gonna be about £60 a month better off, which is roughly the cost of one takeaway these days.
>> No. 461453 Anonymous
22nd November 2023
Wednesday 4:35 pm
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>>461446
BTW, Clarkson may be a twat, but his experience with sheep has been a good thing, showing sheep as the adorable scofflaw bastards that they are.
>> No. 461457 Anonymous
22nd November 2023
Wednesday 6:47 pm
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How do I find a walking companion? None of my friends have any interest in going rambling.
>> No. 461458 Anonymous
22nd November 2023
Wednesday 7:44 pm
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>>461457

You can find a bajillion walking groups on something like Meetup.com. I think some of the dating apps have options for finding platonic pals? Or join The Ramblers.
>> No. 461459 Anonymous
22nd November 2023
Wednesday 8:19 pm
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>>461458
Aren't most walking groups full of pensioners?
>> No. 461460 Anonymous
22nd November 2023
Wednesday 10:18 pm
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>>461459
Isn't .gs?
>> No. 461461 Anonymous
23rd November 2023
Thursday 6:27 am
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>>461457
Walk around a popular park, but next to someone that's there.
>> No. 461462 Anonymous
23rd November 2023
Thursday 8:28 am
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>>461459

No. Obviously country walks appeal to a somewhat older demographic, but there are loads of groups specifically for 30s-40s and some for proper young people. An easy walk on a Monday morning will naturally attract a very different crowd to a more challenging walk at the weekend.
>> No. 461464 Anonymous
23rd November 2023
Thursday 11:22 am
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>>461448
>I need to really improve my cardio health, but I also want to lose my moobs and love handles

The kinds of exercises for cardio will burn calories, so in theory that's grand and you'll see calorie burn add up when you do a good session. I'd add that you will want to throw in some weight training as well even if it's not your key concern as hungry muscles = do you good, start with the old people end of the free weights and slowly move to bench press, leg press etc.

But in reality 80% of losing weight is eating right, exercise alone is too inefficient alone to do it. You will not get significantly fitter without changing your diet. Get the free NHS app as keep tracking calories until you at least get into the habit and get to know why you're a fat fuck.



In addition to what others have said I'd get a sweatband if you fancied doing a big workout on the treadmills/stairs/stepper. And a small gym towel for wiping sweat off the machines when you're done or your face and hands. Oh and nobody ever mentions it but headphones are a must as there's some unwritten rule that gyms must be the most godawful and distracting music possible at all hours of the day.

>>461457
Download some of Dan Carlin's Hardcore History or get some audiobooks. It's very pleasant to go hiking while having another grown man read to you a story.
>> No. 461465 Anonymous
23rd November 2023
Thursday 11:39 am
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I'm fed up of my friend moaning she can't afford a house when it boils down to poor life choices™. She's in her late thirties, child-free, lives in the North with her long-term partner and pays relatively low rent because she knows the landlord. She's never been able to save any money because she always lives beyond her means and had to get her parents to pay off her ~£15k credit card debt, which is more support than most people in our group have had when it came to a house deposit.
>> No. 461467 Anonymous
23rd November 2023
Thursday 12:12 pm
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You lads hear about this shit? I feel like such an arsehole.
>> No. 461468 Anonymous
23rd November 2023
Thursday 2:10 pm
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>>461467
Hear about what shit?
>> No. 461470 Anonymous
23rd November 2023
Thursday 5:27 pm
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>>461467
Telewest Blue Yonder were the original good fibre broadband in the UK. I had one of their lines in 2001 and it was incredibly good performance - Virgin inherited their network, if you're lucky enough to be on it, it's the bit of Virgin Media that works well.
>> No. 461471 Anonymous
23rd November 2023
Thursday 6:38 pm
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>>461464

>listen to Dan Carlin while on a nice scenic solo hike

Why have I never thought of this. You're a genius lad.
>> No. 461476 Anonymous
24th November 2023
Friday 7:46 am
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>>461470
It's worth remembering that the Virgin rebrand was a repeat of earlier plays where they'd done the trick of bringing two entities together and absorbing the good name and eliminating the toxic name to whatever degree they could get away with.

Virgin Media came about after NTL-Telewest bought Virgin Mobile, and rebranded the whole thing, including both the telco businesses and the media businesses (Telewest in particular owned a whole load of IP through Flextech). Previously, when CableTel bought NTL, which was the privatised engineering division of the IBA, it used that name to rebrand itself.

If anyone's wondering where UKFast went, they were involved in a merger and between the two names the new management decided to go with the one that hadn't been run by an obnoxious rapist.
>> No. 461477 Anonymous
24th November 2023
Friday 11:01 am
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>>461470

FWIW I'm in a region previously served by Telewest and my experience of Virgin Media was atrocious. My connection dropped every time it rained, they refused to fix it and refused to break my contract without a penalty charge.
>> No. 461478 Anonymous
24th November 2023
Friday 1:18 pm
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What are you getting for your dad this year? He's the last one I need to think about and it's a right pain the arse.
>> No. 461479 Anonymous
24th November 2023
Friday 1:19 pm
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>>461478
Wasgij.
>> No. 461480 Anonymous
24th November 2023
Friday 2:20 pm
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>>461479
Tah lad.

I've stole the idea and bumbled my parents gifts together, getting them a couple bottles of Chalice mead too which is alright and at least my mum likes.
>> No. 461482 Anonymous
24th November 2023
Friday 3:38 pm
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Is there a better keyboard shortcut for merging cells in a table (in Word) than Alt + A then M?
>> No. 461483 Anonymous
24th November 2023
Friday 5:21 pm
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Doctors had an episode about a furry this week.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001sp84

https://twitter.com/andrewdoyle_com/status/1727742774634537225/
>> No. 461484 Anonymous
24th November 2023
Friday 5:40 pm
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>>461483
They way films and TV use generic animal costumes for their furries always makes them seem so much more sinister.
>> No. 461485 Anonymous
24th November 2023
Friday 5:46 pm
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>>461483

I really hate when this happens. Any mainstream media portrayal of furries boils it all down to fursuiters, who are in reality just the most visibly identifiable (and most autistic lost cause) minority within the subculture.

Even if it's not a negative portrayal overall, it still ends up being that if anyone finds out you are a furry, they assume you are a stunted manchild who dresses up in a mascot costume, when really it's just that you wank to pictures of the rabbit from Zootopia getting gangbanged.
>> No. 461486 Anonymous
24th November 2023
Friday 6:25 pm
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>>461485

>if anyone finds out you are a furry, they assume you are a stunted manchild who dresses up in a mascot costume, when really it's just that you wank to pictures of the rabbit from Zootopia getting gangbanged

Is that a bad thing? It's not my first day on the internet so obviously I think that you should all be gassed, but surely it's better to be though of as a harmless eccentric than some sort of cartoon pervert.
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24th November 2023
Friday 7:16 pm
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>>461483
>fursuits and fursonas

I just think it's unhealthy to compartmentalise parts of your personality. Of course we all do it to a degree but furrydom is a physical manifestation, even fetishisation, of say a 'work-sona' or 'public-sona'. It's very easy to target furries for this specific argument because it's so comparitively bizzare, but this stands true for all 'copes' and self-deceptions with regard to how every person lives their lives.

Most of us should know the feeling of publicly wearing a physical mask - especially those shy or introverted - suddenly all your preconcieved and socially-enforced ideas about what it means to be you are lifted, you're entirely free from your regular indentity, your regular experience of being, but only while wearing the mask.

Ultimately that feeling comes not from the mask but from within, so any sensation experienced because of the mask will be tied to it (hence, I guess, furrydom).

Integration of the soul and all that - is it the ultimate work to become human or are we already living it? Can we be better?

Do @ me, it's an interesting subject.
>> No. 461488 Anonymous
24th November 2023
Friday 7:25 pm
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>>461487
>Do @ me, it's an interesting subject.
>> No. 461489 Anonymous
24th November 2023
Friday 8:25 pm
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>>461487
I don't think I am especially secretive about almost any aspect of my personality; I'm pretty open about nearly everything. The only thing I don't have a single person I would discuss it with is my wanking habits, and I think that's a good thing. I am a magical free spirit, and I don't think it benefits me at all. It really is not all it's cracked up to be. So perhaps you think we would all be much happier if we removed our social masks, but I would suggest that you have just decided that the grass is greener when you share your personal secrets, but you've never actually tried doing this.

I would, however, really like to know what other people truly think of me, because people tend to be quite secretive about that. But even then, there is a chance I just want to be the centre of attention, because most people insist that I am a perfectly fine and tolerable person, and they're probably right, on balance.
>> No. 461490 Anonymous
24th November 2023
Friday 9:44 pm
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That's it. I've finally signed up for a gym. I'd been putting it off but JD Gyms are doing an offer where the first month is a fiver.
>> No. 461491 Anonymous
24th November 2023
Friday 10:57 pm
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Im going to make a big fuck off fire tonight, not had one in ages.
>> No. 461492 Anonymous
24th November 2023
Friday 11:42 pm
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>>461491
It's been too rainy pretty much all year. The house I bought a year ago had literally over a ton of rubbish left in the garden (long story; my fault) and I wanted to burn anything made of wood, and I really struggled to do so because there was almost never a good time to burn it.
>> No. 461493 Anonymous
25th November 2023
Saturday 1:29 am
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>>461486

Honestly when it comes to furries, I really feel the opposite way. It's understandable as a depraved fetish thing, or something almost akin to a sexual preference. It's weirder when it's pretending to be non-sexual.
>> No. 461494 Anonymous
25th November 2023
Saturday 1:48 am
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>>461487

I am the Real Furrylad (all the others are just imitating), and to me the "fursona" is an idealised self. The analogy I'd use is how when they go in the matrix in The Matrix they look different, they look how they'd like to be. More attractive, better dressed, and all that. I'd just happen to be an anthropomorphic animal.

What makes it exceptional to other forms of self-idealisation is, I suppose, that it cannot be actualised. You can lift weights and get built, even transes can get surgery to approximate their desired self. The closest a furry can get is to wear a big daft costume, so they do. Pehaps inhabiting the "character" rather than themselves frees them to express behaviour and feelings they might not otherwise. I don't feel that way about it, my personality already contains many elements associated with my furry representation and that's why I identify with it, but I can understand it.

There's also a lot of folks who just see it as a hobby and while that seems strange to me, because really, what is it about? It revolves around art, amateur fiction, roleplaying, etc, and a good 70% of that is porn. I think it's a bit self deceptive to imagine you are only into it for the "wholesome" community or whatever.

Many of you lads have expressed a sentiment that you show your true selves via anonymous posting, and I would say that's analogous here. They say if you try hitch-hiking, the people who pick you up will tell you more about themselves and talk candidly about things they usually keep secret, because you are stranger they will never meet again. In certain places I use the fursona as a work-around to avoid giving any actual personal information away online, while still representing myself. That is liberating at times I will admit.

One has to consider- What did people do to air those innermost socially questionable thoughts and feelings before the internet?
>> No. 461495 Anonymous
25th November 2023
Saturday 2:57 am
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>>461492
well that was a nice few hours
most people my age are out clubbing, me im sat in the woods by myself in the middle of the night setting fire to shit
Sad as fuck really lol
>> No. 461496 Anonymous
25th November 2023
Saturday 3:31 am
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>>461495
I'm jealous that's a splendid thing to do.
>> No. 461500 Anonymous
25th November 2023
Saturday 10:26 am
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>>461494
Once again you reveal the problem is infact myself, you sod. Havn't we tried at this conversation before? I like to think we'd get on well in real life but in reality I'd be so very envious, flipping between love for and fear of you that any interaction with oneanother would be exhausting. I'd end up convincing myself you're a cunt while insisting my personal shame is most definitely the correct, it must be the people like you who're causing my life to be miserable.
>> No. 461503 Anonymous
25th November 2023
Saturday 11:02 am
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>>461500
You'd get on with me. I'm great, plus I don't want to talk to any smelly furries either.
>> No. 461504 Anonymous
25th November 2023
Saturday 8:10 pm
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>>461500

It's okay mate, in real life you'd only sort of vaguely suspect I was a furry but I'd never explicitly bring it up or give you any direct exposure to it. What exactly are you envious of? What are you ashamed of?

Do you want me to put the ears and tail on and let you hatefuck me, would that help work it out a bit? Is that what you are struggling with here? I'm just a swutty wittwe foxxy uwu
>> No. 461516 Anonymous
26th November 2023
Sunday 9:54 am
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>>461504
>spoiler text

Ban everyone in this thread, including me, thanks.
>> No. 461519 Anonymous
26th November 2023
Sunday 11:39 am
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>>461494
>One has to consider- What did people do to air those innermost socially questionable thoughts and feelings before the internet?
>> No. 461525 Anonymous
26th November 2023
Sunday 4:02 pm
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>>461519

>Yeah Frank. I 'spose I could.

And that's really all it takes. What a nice little comic.
>> No. 461535 Anonymous
27th November 2023
Monday 4:18 pm
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Haven't eaten all day. I'll probably get some take away from that new Thai place down the road.
>> No. 461547 Anonymous
28th November 2023
Tuesday 8:43 pm
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Having a wank in an unheated room is no fun.
>> No. 461548 Anonymous
28th November 2023
Tuesday 8:50 pm
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>>461547
If you can't afford to heat your room, let the shit wanks motivate you until you do better in life. Then you can reward yourself with a comfy wank.
>> No. 461549 Anonymous
28th November 2023
Tuesday 11:00 pm
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>>461547
I usually find the strenuous bodily activity warms up my room a noticable degree. Leaves a bit of a funk, sure, but swings and donuts init.
>> No. 461551 Anonymous
28th November 2023
Tuesday 11:11 pm
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>>461548

Are you saying you like wanking to ARE Maggie?
>> No. 461553 Anonymous
29th November 2023
Wednesday 2:29 am
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>>461551
Are you saying you don't?
>> No. 461554 Anonymous
29th November 2023
Wednesday 8:11 am
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>>461553

Touché.
>> No. 461555 Anonymous
29th November 2023
Wednesday 9:35 am
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It's scraping ice off my windscreen time of year. Soon I'll be leaving for work in the dark and coming home in the dark.
>> No. 461556 Anonymous
29th November 2023
Wednesday 10:54 am
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>>461555
Can't you get sheets to put over the windscreen so they don't frost over? I never understand why every motorist isn't doing that this time of year. Or are they bollocks?
>> No. 461557 Anonymous
29th November 2023
Wednesday 10:57 am
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>>461556
I've tried pre-icer which supposedly stops it frosting over but instead it leaves your windscreen looking like you've smeared it with grease.
>> No. 461559 Anonymous
29th November 2023
Wednesday 11:06 am
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>>461556

Or you could let your frozen over windscreen be motivation for you to do better in life, so you can afford a garage and don't have to deal with that sort of thing.


The chimp? No reason.
>> No. 461560 Anonymous
29th November 2023
Wednesday 12:05 pm
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I'm just going to say it; that Irish-Israeli bloke with the kid who just got released gives me the fucking creeps. A month ago he was blubbering on telly telling people he was thankful she was dead, and somehow he's still at it. Not to be all Cro-Magnon about it, but I don't think a father's role in this very trying time should be to doing an interview with everyone who sticks a camera in your face and having a teary.

>>461559
This is how I know Thatcherism is an American import. A proper British garage is an ersatz shed, not a car hole.
>> No. 461561 Anonymous
29th November 2023
Wednesday 12:16 pm
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>>461560

>A proper British garage is an ersatz shed, not a car hole.

My Syrian neighbours are certainly using their garage as a shed more than a place to leave their Porsche Cayenne. They had the door up just the other day and it looked pretty untidy with random stuff piled all the way to the ceiling.

I'm not racist but I suspect they're into shady dealings.
>> No. 461562 Anonymous
29th November 2023
Wednesday 12:55 pm
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>>461560

>A proper British garage is an ersatz shed, not a car hole.

Only because British builders take the piss.
>> No. 461563 Anonymous
29th November 2023
Wednesday 5:28 pm
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I think new t-shirts are much easier to stain than the old ones. I got a little splot of sauce from a wrap on one of mine and there's now, even after many washes, a permanent dark spot.
>> No. 461564 Anonymous
29th November 2023
Wednesday 5:41 pm
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>>461563

https://www.vanish.co.uk/products/stain-removers/oxi-action-stain-remover-powder/

We're just turning into Mumsnet now.
>> No. 461565 Anonymous
29th November 2023
Wednesday 5:57 pm
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>>461564

Most of us are well into our mid 30s by now, so we're just learning to deal with these little domestic obstacles.
>> No. 461566 Anonymous
29th November 2023
Wednesday 6:19 pm
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What's summat that might be handy I can put in my Amazon basket for about £2.50 to push myself over the free delivery threshold?
>> No. 461567 Anonymous
29th November 2023
Wednesday 8:02 pm
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>>461564
I tried it, the stain remained.
>> No. 461568 Anonymous
29th November 2023
Wednesday 8:10 pm
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>>461566
Nice pasta shape you can't get in a supermarket.
>> No. 461569 Anonymous
29th November 2023
Wednesday 8:46 pm
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The moon looks proper sinister this evening.
>> No. 461570 Anonymous
29th November 2023
Wednesday 8:51 pm
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>>461568
Yeah - all the fancy Garafalo pasta on Amazon is exactly £2.50.

I'd recommend the spaghettini.
>> No. 461571 Anonymous
29th November 2023
Wednesday 9:19 pm
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>>461568
>> No. 461572 Anonymous
29th November 2023
Wednesday 9:35 pm
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>>461570
You can get the Gruffalo pasta for 99p through subscribe and save.

https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/garofalo-fusilli-dry-pasta-500g-ps111-99p-ss-4252365
>> No. 461573 Anonymous
30th November 2023
Thursday 7:20 am
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Right, it's December tomorrow. Would someone else like to make the Christmas thread this year for a change? If not I'll make the usual Andrew one.
>> No. 461574 Anonymous
30th November 2023
Thursday 9:45 am
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RIP ARE JIMMY CORKHILL
>> No. 461575 Anonymous
30th November 2023
Thursday 12:07 pm
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RIP ARE SHANE MACGOWAN.
>> No. 461576 Anonymous
30th November 2023
Thursday 1:23 pm
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RIP ARE ALISTAIR DARLING
>> No. 461577 Anonymous
30th November 2023
Thursday 1:50 pm
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What's going on today lads?
>> No. 461578 Anonymous
30th November 2023
Thursday 1:53 pm
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>>461575
It took me a while to realise I wasn't looking at a picture of Paul Whitehouse doing a Fast Show sketch.
>> No. 461579 Anonymous
30th November 2023
Thursday 3:37 pm
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>>461577
They're clearing house.
>> No. 461580 Anonymous
30th November 2023
Thursday 6:05 pm
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Mmm, fire. Bit of garden tidying here, too, Good for the soul, both the tidying and the burninating.
>> No. 461581 Anonymous
30th November 2023
Thursday 6:23 pm
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>>461577
Henry Kissinger couldn't even die without taking a few others with him.
>> No. 461582 Anonymous
30th November 2023
Thursday 8:53 pm
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>>461580
This isn't New Delhi, you fucking ape.
>> No. 461583 Anonymous
30th November 2023
Thursday 9:57 pm
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>>461582
You'd rather it went to landfill? Carbon goes round, and out here, a bit of smoke is of no concern out here in the middle of nowhere.
>> No. 461584 Anonymous
30th November 2023
Thursday 11:01 pm
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That's a burn-up lad. Jealous.
>> No. 461585 Anonymous
1st December 2023
Friday 12:04 am
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>>461580

Just remember that you need 1200 degrees celsius to get rid of a body.
>> No. 461620 Anonymous
2nd December 2023
Saturday 4:09 pm
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Is it fair to say that exposure to femboy pornography at an impressionable age having influenced my becoming gay is the same as abused children becoming abusive adults?
Put like that wouldn't it make more sense that in some scenarios it's conditioning and choice rather than destiny or whatever you'd call it?
>> No. 461621 Anonymous
2nd December 2023
Saturday 4:18 pm
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>>461620

Plenty of people see pornography at impressionable age and grow up to find things other than what was in it arousing. You're inferring causation where there's no evidence of it. Sexual triggers aren't the same as social conditioning or normalisation.
>> No. 461630 Anonymous
2nd December 2023
Saturday 7:18 pm
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>>461621
Easiest way out of a closet it to use the door, huh?
>> No. 461631 Anonymous
2nd December 2023
Saturday 7:33 pm
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>>461630
I don't know what that's supposed to mean. I know the first porn I found was watersports and I've never been into that. Otherlad discovering he likes femboys was just that - the discovery that he likes femboys. I doubt it turned him gay. He always was but didn't know it.
>> No. 461632 Anonymous
2nd December 2023
Saturday 7:50 pm
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PORN TURNED ME GAY
>> No. 461633 Anonymous
2nd December 2023
Saturday 8:01 pm
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Growing up on 80s/90s animated films and videogames definitely turned me into a furry, and none of those were porn. The porn came along after the fixation had already developed.

Why do people always jump to blaming the porn? It could just as easily have been that one traumatic incident when you were six where your mum packed your sister's ballet kit instead of your footy gear by accident.

Honestly I don't think it's rabbit hole worth diving down because who the fuck knows. The brain is a complicated, messy affair.
>> No. 461634 Anonymous
2nd December 2023
Saturday 8:18 pm
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I think men are just a lot more easy-going when it comes to who and what we'd shag than we'd usually admit, or act on.

Also if you went full gay then it was almost certainly always going that way. Most lads aren't "basically girls with no body hair and a cock", which is what I'm lead to believe from people that have told me about them, femboys are.
>> No. 461638 Anonymous
2nd December 2023
Saturday 11:23 pm
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>>461620
Aren't femboys a new invention created by cartoonists like Dross and InCase? It feels like we never really had the concept of a 'femboy' when I was a lad. We had camp men, bottoms, crossdressers and later actual transexuals started to exist but I think of femboys as more of a gender bending 21st century thing where they could actually be straight. Could a lass be a femboy if she dressed like one or is that a standard tomboy?

>>461634 is right, this is the kind of thing a straight man might be confused by until they meet a femboy in real life and discover it was better left as a fantasy when the skirt, face mask and cat ears come off and they've just got a standard poof on their hands. Like that time you snogged a transexual for wish fulfilment but it just felt like kissing a man.

>>461633
>Growing up on 80s/90s animated films and videogames definitely turned me into a furry

Does that mean that the furry community is dying out? I know Zootopia gave it a boost but I get the feeling that it's a lot smaller than it once was. Looking back, when it was really in its hayday the content you'd see posted online seemed a lot more about femboys and a lot less about spending all day in your lab.
>> No. 461642 Anonymous
3rd December 2023
Sunday 8:27 am
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>>461638
> Does that mean that the furry community is dying out?

Nope. It's changed a lot, but you mostly don't see it because the internet (and real life following along) is pretty segregated these days.
>> No. 461644 Anonymous
3rd December 2023
Sunday 12:07 pm
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>Aren't femboys a new invention created by cartoonists like Dross and InCase?
Nah, the subculture is simply a lot more visible these days. Check out the early years of /y/, for example.
>> No. 461645 Anonymous
3rd December 2023
Sunday 2:34 pm
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>>461638

Like with most of this post-modern gender bendery stuff, "femboy" is just a sort of fantasy standard people come up with as an alternative to more traditional expectations. Like, if you are a skinny lad and you want to be considered hot and sexy to some standard, but don't want to go to the gym until you look like Jason Oumuamua, that's your alternative, right? It's meant to be a "best of both worlds" kind of deal.

I mean when you think about it, it's a pretty natural response to the idea of gender equality. Fisherpeople are blinded by their own nonsense, but blokes just simply don't have as many options for clothing styles and ways to be attractive as women. I reckon it's the same sort of desire behind transes, except they have developed a pathologised hatred of their own masculinity, instead of (more rationally, IMO) seeking to superimpose it with aspects of femininity.

But then again a lot of the time it is used interchangeably with what would previously just have been called a "twink", rather than specifically a lad with desirably feminine features.

It just pisses me off because if OnlyFans had existed 10 years ago I could have made a killing doing femboy shit with only a small amount of effort. Nowadays I'm far too hairy and have a beer belly.
>> No. 461646 Anonymous
3rd December 2023
Sunday 3:58 pm
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>>461645
You're underestimating the level of 'thirst' ethnic women and gay men have for skinny white boys.

I think it's quite the opposite actually, that in gay culture young men are absolutely swamped with offers that dry up with age similar to what women will experience. It is absolutely not the easy route to learn how to do makeup, have the right bone structure, get the right fitness and nutrition and then shove a dragon dildo up your arse for perverted old Americans if you're just after some affection. That's ludicrous and appears largely driven by a social media pyramid scheme.

Young men are incredibly dumb, we had the emo scene after all, but I don't think they're that deluded. For me it appears to be a manifestation of what young gay men go through when they fall into the deep end of the culture and come to the conclusions that they don't have to work hard at life. Something that women can fall for as well and what modern parents needs to be aware of as a risk when social media stars flash cash as the 1% of a cutthroat industry, like parents are having to keep them away from joining a Mexican cartel.

Which brings up the other point:

>but blokes just simply don't have as many options for clothing styles and ways to be attractive as women

Contrary to what our august institution may say 'don't be fat' is the gold standard on how a bird will be treated by society. That doesn't mean in raw sex appeal but in terms of how she'll be treated and seen. We literally have the term 'slampig' for fat women who are viewed as suitable for sex only.

For all our talk of how tough it is in the dating world for a bloke, women are much more focused on the holistic picture of who you are as a person. If you want to be a cynical chronic masturbator then at least you'll point to money as a factor which blokes don't really give a shit about as long as she's fit. Fashion mitigates damage or accentuates someone's attractiveness but it's all academic if you've been chiselled out of marble by a god or you have some diamond attribute like charisma, money or actually being a decent and interesting person.

Now if you still need a bit of fashion then I don’t get it, a bit of fashion is all a bloke needs and that's why the options are traditionally limited for us. The level of thought most men put into fashion is pushing it to even consider colour coordination. Since the Great Male Renunciation, men's fashion has been subtle but it’s incredibly easy to look better with minimal investment. In my own example I'm kind of fat and shelf-worn but I dress well, have a good career and can be funny, the fact that I'm a bit of a cunt is my own fault.
>> No. 461667 Anonymous
5th December 2023
Tuesday 5:49 am
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>> No. 461669 Anonymous
5th December 2023
Tuesday 11:46 am
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YOU'RE DESTROYING COCKS IN HEAVEN NOW DALLYN.
>> No. 461671 Anonymous
5th December 2023
Tuesday 11:46 pm
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>>461669

Maybe I'm being funny, but with lasses like that, you tell me it's not the same as fucking a rubber sex doll.
>> No. 461672 Anonymous
6th December 2023
Wednesday 12:17 am
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Which is the darker turn; that I've become a guy who wears rollneck jumpers most of the time, or that I now keep the taskbar at the top of the screen?
>> No. 461673 Anonymous
6th December 2023
Wednesday 12:51 am
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I've started wearing turtlenecks myself recently. Nobody has commented on whether I look nice or not yet but I can only assume that with hot individuals like us doing it independently that It'll be the new fashion trend for the 2020s.

>that I now keep the taskbar at the top of the screen

That's just wrong though. Surely you would have more real estate on the side of your screen?
>> No. 461674 Anonymous
6th December 2023
Wednesday 10:22 am
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I am now student loan free. Only taken 13 years after graduating.
>> No. 461675 Anonymous
6th December 2023
Wednesday 2:10 pm
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>>461674

Good on you, lad.

I received an inheritance about ten years into repayment, which enabled me to settle the rest in one sum, just to be done with it. I think they actually gave me a discount for it.
>> No. 461676 Anonymous
6th December 2023
Wednesday 3:15 pm
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>>461674
>>461675
But why? You can't even die now without feeling buyers remorse.
>> No. 461678 Anonymous
6th December 2023
Wednesday 3:39 pm
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>>461676
I had about £1,650 left on mine and I used to be self-employed, so I decided it would be less of a mess if I settled it before I have to do my self-assessment next month because it's going to get cleared relatively soon either way.

It turns out that it takes up to 28 working days for HMRC to notify my employer, which means chances are I'll have a student loan deduction on my next payslip and have to wait for it to be refunded.
>> No. 461682 Anonymous
6th December 2023
Wednesday 10:54 pm
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>>461673
We are the future. We are inevitable.

>That's just wrong though. Surely you would have more real estate on the side of your screen?
Probably, but a 1440p monitor is so big everything that isn't a video game, a video worthy of being fullscreen or editing software is windowed anyway.
>> No. 461683 Anonymous
7th December 2023
Thursday 1:28 am
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I don't believe this shit. The national rail operator of Israel is called Israel Railways, rather than the blindingly obvious and eternally superior Israil.
>> No. 461685 Anonymous
7th December 2023
Thursday 6:39 am
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Substantially overpaying a student loan before the recent interest rises (and possibly even still) is financial illiteracy.
>> No. 461686 Anonymous
7th December 2023
Thursday 7:13 am
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>>461685
That depends on whether you're going to realistically pay it off in the near future, especially considering the interest rates are now 6.25% to 7.5%.
>> No. 461687 Anonymous
7th December 2023
Thursday 7:22 am
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>>461686
It doesn't matter. It's not real debt.
>> No. 461688 Anonymous
7th December 2023
Thursday 7:37 am
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>>461687
If it's something you'll pay off anyway then clearing it early means you'll be accruing less interest and be better off in the long run.
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7th December 2023
Thursday 7:37 am
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>>461686
a) We can be reasonably sure Plan 1 interest rates are going to fall in September at the latest because inflation won't be 6.25% in March.
b) You can save at least £1500 per month in 7%+ interest savings accounts. Therefore paying it off and avoiding that interest you're so scared of is guaranteed loss making.
>> No. 461690 Anonymous
7th December 2023
Thursday 7:43 am
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>>461689
>You can save at least £1500 per month in 7%+ interest savings accounts

Almost all of those are building societies where you have to have held an account for over a year to be able to access these. The exception to that is Nationwide, but you can only put £200 per month in.
>> No. 461691 Anonymous
7th December 2023
Thursday 9:23 am
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>>461689

It's perfectly reasonable to just pay it off so you don't have to think about it, rather than continuing to have to deal with repayments just for the sake of a tenner or so in interest.
>> No. 461692 Anonymous
7th December 2023
Thursday 1:49 pm
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>>461691
>so you don't have to think about it

Otherlad is in a special position but SLC was scolded for precisely making people think about it through how the communicated statements. The reality is that unless your self-employed and on a very-high income (with no significant milestones like homeownership) it's more hassle and even irrational to pay it off. People should spend more time worrying about titlumps and a lot less time worrying about something that only qualifies on a very loose definition as debt.

Perhaps it points to a broader cultural issue, that a lot of the people nearing retirement I've spoken too actually wish they'd taken on more debt when they were younger and that in this country people just don't understand finance beyond the absolute basics.
>> No. 461693 Anonymous
7th December 2023
Thursday 3:46 pm
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The electrician, who has given me the usual spiel about vaccines causing autism/trans people/vegans and all the rest - including how we overuse antibiotics and steroids in cattle - refuses to drink my oat milk in his coffee and brings his own cows milk to use. I don't understand. Nobody's adding hormones to the oats. If it were soy milk that might make a sort of internal sense but it's not.
>> No. 461699 Anonymous
7th December 2023
Thursday 10:02 pm
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>>461692

>Perhaps it points to a broader cultural issue, that a lot of the people nearing retirement I've spoken too actually wish they'd taken on more debt when they were younger

I'm in middle age and don't owe a penny to anybody. Granted, I've inherited a paid off house, but still. Student loan aside, my rule was always to not go into any kind of debt. That means I don't drive an expensive car on finance or buy any other consumer goods that aren't technically mine. But I also don't lie awake at night worrying about my next payment for my car or my TV.

Debt keeps you poor. Even though you feel rich because of all the shiny new things it affords you.
>> No. 461700 Anonymous
7th December 2023
Thursday 11:09 pm
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>> No. 461701 Anonymous
7th December 2023
Thursday 11:35 pm
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>>461699#
You've already listed one example of where borrowing makes sense, can you think of some others?
>> No. 461702 Anonymous
8th December 2023
Friday 10:46 am
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>>461701

You're not getting my point.

Fine, student debt is a necessary evil for many people who otherwise wouldn't have the opportunity to go to university. And if your income is solid enough that you'll have no problem paying off a house mortgage, in the long run anyway, then at the end of it that'll leave you with a house that's all yours and will give you financial security in old age.

I guess what I'd really advise against is consumer credit. I know people who spend close to £500 a month on their financed car, and one even took out a loan for their £8,000 custom kitchen. Those are all expenses that keep you from saving up money every month. And unlike your house, your car and kitchen will only depreciate. Even student debt is a better investment, because of the higher income you'll usually be able to earn following your degree.

I drive an older Audi A4 that cost me £7,000 of my own money to buy a little over ten years ago. I've kept it in near mint condition since. It's just been valued at £4,000 pre-accident after somebody backed into it with their lorry and pushed in my front wing. That means aside from running costs, it has had around £300 depreciation a year. A new car that you pay £500 a month for can have almost twice that depreciation every month. Fine, so I didn't get to look rich to my neighbours because I didn't finance a shiny new Merc or BMW. But during those ten years, I've had a fraction of the cost with my older car. And was able to save for other things every month, that I then got to buy with my own money.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLWJLyLgvAQ
>> No. 461703 Anonymous
8th December 2023
Friday 11:52 am
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>>461702
I'm glad you're doing well financially, but you're still a person who posts vertically cropped edits of something that was filmed in 16:9. What's money worth when all sense and reason have abandoned you?
>> No. 461704 Anonymous
8th December 2023
Friday 1:37 pm
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>>461703

It's the only way that this clip is available on youtube. I'm sorry if that offends your OCD.
>> No. 461705 Anonymous
8th December 2023
Friday 2:06 pm
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>>461693
oh lardedar, this ones got oat milk. Are they still putting little vegan girlfriends on the side of the carton?

Seriously though he probably just likes a good cup of coffee. Oat milk is nice but it's not dairy, is it?
>> No. 461706 Anonymous
8th December 2023
Friday 2:19 pm
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>>461705

No, it's significantly nicer. None of that cloying taste of spoiled dairy that cow milk has. The man turned down proper ground coffee in favour of instant, I don't think that's it.
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8th December 2023
Friday 2:23 pm
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>>461705
>lardedar
>> No. 461708 Anonymous
8th December 2023
Friday 2:47 pm
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>>461702
>I guess what I'd really advise against is consumer credit.

Even then, it does depend. I think we've already covered off where ROI covers the cost of the debt - for example boosting your income by getting a car or another would be reducing operating costs. But I think we can agree there's ultimately the categories of dumb debt and smart debt.

But let's not get overly fixated on getting each others pricks - for young people it could just be getting a round the world trip in or financing that thing they want to do. The albatross of needing to afford a home has fucked things in a way the oldies probably don't appreciate but I can definately see a world where I'd fucked off around the world in my 20s. And I'm certain the people who studied in their home town to save money by living with their parents regret it.
>> No. 461709 Anonymous
8th December 2023
Friday 2:56 pm
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>>461706
>None of that cloying taste of spoiled dairy that cow milk has

Milk has a thickness to it that alternatives lack. You' know how normal people get into a tiff about what colour the cap has to be? That's why.
>> No. 461710 Anonymous
8th December 2023
Friday 3:02 pm
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I feel like debt only makes sense if you see yourself increasing your income in future to offset it, or if inflation beats the interest you'd be paying on the debt, both of which are unlikely scenarios for many young people in the post-2008 economy.

There's something to be said for making sure you invest and protect your savings wisely- I saved up a significant chunk of money over covid, and what didn't go towards my mortgage deposit went towards silly stuff like guitars and pedals I knew I'd probably never be in a position to afford again. But overall I feel like hat was a better use of the money than watching inflation eat away at everything I'd saved and pissing it away gradually one nights out and the like as everything gets more expensive.

In general though I think it's one of those things where it's easier to preach about being good with finances, when you have enough money to work with in the first place. To a lot of people that's a luxury in itself, and you don't have much beyond what covers the monthly expenses; it's those people debt is definitely a dangerous trap for, I reckon.
>> No. 461711 Anonymous
8th December 2023
Friday 4:53 pm
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I've moved back to where I grew up relatively recently, I just phoned my old dentist. I'm still registered, but I can't book an appointment, they now only offer those to people on a payment plan which I can't even join until next year, but they said they'd they'd let me know if they had any cancellations. I was a private patient there, so it's not like they're just purging NHS patients. I'm trying to pay for medical care and they won't take my money.

I tried to get an appointment in the place I was living a bit before I moved back, but they also had a long enough waiting list that it wasn't possible with the moving timeline, I was a private patient there too. I could try booking in there again, but travelling halfway across the country to dental care seems a bit mad.

There's another dentist in town, but if they won't let me book an appointment either, then I'm not sure what I'll do. I'm a bit worried to be honest.

A couple of weeks ago I was thinking of booking a doctor's appointment about a minor issue I was having, the process was enough of a bother to put me off entirely. The surgery's google reviews are very negative, with people mostly complaining about being unable to get appointments.

What's going on lads?
>> No. 461712 Anonymous
8th December 2023
Friday 5:04 pm
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>>461711
>What's going on lads?
You know how the Soviets kind of sleep walked into everything going to pot all while keeping the veneer of a functioning system? That, basically. We're still not at the terminous yet, but I more and more don't fancy our chances.
>> No. 461713 Anonymous
8th December 2023
Friday 5:36 pm
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>>461711
Dentistry has collapsed in the country over 20 years and the cost of now fixing it is ruinous. Same with getting a doctors appointment out in the provinces. How do you feel about a holiday to the Baltic?

>The surgery's google reviews are very negative

Nobody is going to write a positive review of getting a finger up their bum.
>> No. 461714 Anonymous
8th December 2023
Friday 6:20 pm
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>>461710

> it's those people debt is definitely a dangerous trap for, I reckon.

True. You don't normally have to worry about people who are good with finances and have a grasp of how to juggle them, usually because they've been properly educated and they know what kind of debt they can take on in relation to their financial situation.

Consumer credit becomes a trap for the less well to do because it's given to people with no money who aren't finance savvy. It's the kind of thing you then see on those poverty porn TV programmes where paupers have a mountain of debt from their financed 40'' TV or their games console or all kinds of other consumer goods. They are the ones getting in over their heads, and they are paying for it.

It's the old idea of how you participate in society. To the lower classes, participation through education is often unattainable, so they try to participate through consumption, i.e. by buying consumer goods as status symbols. Which they can't actually afford, not even on finance, but it's their way of trying to make something of themselves and looking less lower class. Without actually managing to escape lower class life, not least because all the money they spend on consumer credit will keep them poor and prevent them from saving money and actually owning things.
>> No. 461715 Anonymous
8th December 2023
Friday 7:42 pm
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>>461714

It's nothing we haven't discussed before but increasingly the consumption participation you describe has basically become the norm, but not only that it's what the entire economy is dependent upon, it's what the people pulling the strings want.

But not only that, we've ended up in a situation where wages have stagnated to such an extent it applies to basically everyone- People who think they are middle class these days often simply aren't, and they are relying on all that credit to keep up the appearance. It's not just people who are too poor trying to live above their means. It's the average person. The normal, representative example of the regular Brit.

Which, no matter how they try to dress it up, is exactly why our economy is in such a rut. Enough people just don't have the money to keep the wheels turning any more. They have to cut back. Which means money doesn't flow as easily. The people up top still call for more austerity and restraint on pay, when people being tight is exactly what's seizing up the gears in the first place.
>> No. 461717 Anonymous
8th December 2023
Friday 10:56 pm
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>>461713
>How do you feel about a holiday to the Baltic?
Where's the best place?
>> No. 461721 Anonymous
9th December 2023
Saturday 10:41 am
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>>461715

>People who think they are middle class these days often simply aren't, and they are relying on all that credit to keep up the appearance. It's not just people who are too poor trying to live above their means. It's the average person. The normal, representative example of the regular Brit.

Middle class used to mean that you had enough disposable income to afford buying a reasonable amount of consumer goods with your own money. When I think back to my parents in the 80s, I grew up middle class to upper middle class, depending on where you want to draw that line, and consumer credit was never an option for my parents. They'd rather drive an older car or have an older couch in the livingroom than get a new one on credit. Granted, we did have the money, but the most frivolous purchase my parents ever made was when they bought a used Mercedes in the mid-80s with about £12,000 of their own money. That's over £35K today. The thing is, my dad had a middle class job that made that possible, being a private-sector civil engineer. He got paid enough so that my mum was able to give up her career and be a housewife.

My parents instilled in us kids that you shouldn't live beyond your means, and that consumer credit is one way you can live beyond them. I'm still comfortably middle class today, but I just don't feel like buying status symbol to desperately denote myself as middle class. I think that's something a lot of people do to overcompensate their fears of downward social mobility. Which is another characteristic of the middle classes. When you're working or lower class, there isn't much of a way down for you. And if you're (truly) upper class, it doesn't matter how badly you fuck up, most of the time you'll manage to stay upper class. And I guess a lot of people in the middle class are caught between aspirations of upward social mobility and fears that the opposite will happen. Especially with stagnating wages and dwindling disposable income. Buying middle class insignia and status symbols, on credit, gives them (often false) reassurance that they're still doing alright.
>> No. 461731 Anonymous
9th December 2023
Saturday 4:27 pm
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>>461717
It's a competitive environment so shop around. I looked into it awhile back for a vet and Austria came out on top for cost but as a rule Latvia/Lithuania or Turkey/Balkans will give you what you need.
>> No. 461769 Anonymous
11th December 2023
Monday 7:45 pm
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You're all awfully quiet today. Got a case of the Mondays have we?
>> No. 461770 Anonymous
11th December 2023
Monday 8:55 pm
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>>461769
I had my work Christmas party in London on Friday, and I had to travel from Manchester to get to it. That was fine, but I had bought myself a new pair of suit shoes that I'd never worn before, so I wore them to London. It turns out the backs curve in slightly and they sawed through my Achilles tendons all of Friday and Saturday. Although they got better on Saturday because my feet instinctively slid forwards inside the shoes and bunched up at the front, giving me blisters the size of golf balls instead. I am still limping a bit even now. But at least I got to do a huge amount of healthy, healthy walking.

The other stories, while marginally less revolting, are all things I consider to be far less exciting to the rest of you. The night descended into the boss of the company and my colleague having the same screaming drunken argument over and over again for about three hours, so that was infuriating for the rest of us as we fruitlessly tried to keep them apart.

Also, where's that chef poster? I have a question: would a fancy restaurant ever put a big pile of baking soda around some vanilla ice cream? I thought it was icing sugar when I ate a spoonful to see what it was, but my subsequent indigestion was so agonising that I have started to wonder if I might have accidentally turned myself into a school volcano experiment.
>> No. 461771 Anonymous
11th December 2023
Monday 9:26 pm
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>>461770

>would a fancy restaurant ever put a big pile of baking soda around some vanilla ice cream?

I'm assuming it was around a bowl of ice cream rather than ice cream plopped on top of the powder. It's still a bit odd and I wouldn't recommend putting anything inedible (that is not immediately obviously inedible) on a plate, especially not around drunk christmas partygoers.

I can sort of imagine them trying to make a sort of snowy scene with it, but baking soda is more expensive than sugar and would fizz up if any ice cream touched it.
>> No. 461772 Anonymous
11th December 2023
Monday 9:48 pm
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>>461770

Isn't baking soda a cure for indigestion?
>> No. 461773 Anonymous
11th December 2023
Monday 11:15 pm
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>>461769
If you must know I planned my work year to end this Friday after I deliver a significant event where I've gone the extra-mile in babysitting, spoon-feeding and general logistics. It's exhausting and I now have to do some things tonight. But I'll get to Thursday, go out for a work drink and maybe flirt with a couple of co-workers and then relax with some basic admin work till 4 on Friday. Get a tin of sweets and sit on the couch until 2024.

Or at least that's what I would say only I've got another project to deliver before I go away that my bigger boss has reminded me about in a nice totally non-threatening email this morning with my immediate chain of command cc'd. And because it involves getting information from people I'm going to get messed about, be unable to deliver the magic output that gives them all the facts they think they can get from this and invite more nitpicking. I've even had to put a meeting in on Thursday evening which means I'll either work late on Thursday or rush Friday - with both options getting no positive recognition of course.[/moan]
>> No. 461774 Anonymous
12th December 2023
Tuesday 12:32 am
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A friend and his two siblings have spent the past year fighting over the house their dad has left them. He had no will. My friend's sister wants him and his brother to pay her out, and my friend is fighting with his brother about who gets to live in the house, as that brother wants to rent out the house, while my friend is the one of the three who doesn't have a house of his own and would like to move into it himself. It's madness, they can't agree on anything, and it has been destroying their family.
>> No. 461775 Anonymous
12th December 2023
Tuesday 8:00 am
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>>461774
A will probably wouldn't have made that much difference. My MIL is going to leave everything equally to her three kids and I can almost guarantee my SIL will try and move her family in before the body is even cold, but she won't have the money to buy anyone out.
>> No. 461776 Anonymous
12th December 2023
Tuesday 10:28 am
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>> No. 461778 Anonymous
12th December 2023
Tuesday 11:37 am
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>>461775
Can confirm. My grandmother had nothing and yet still that side of the family imploded from everyone expecting to get something with accusations that the will had been tampered with once she got dementia. It was sad to see as my mum grew up in a big family that was always close together but the idea that there was a few grand somewhere was all it took for the knives to come out and 15 years later they still don't speak to each other.

I look forward to repeating the experiance one day as my parents have named me as executor for their will but haven't told my siblings to avoid offending them.
>> No. 461780 Anonymous
12th December 2023
Tuesday 12:15 pm
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>>461778
>accusations that the will had been tampered with once she got dementia

You've reminded me. Her grandad remarried when her grandma died and he had a will leaving everything to his kids, with his new wife having the right to live in the house for the rest of her life. That will mysteriously disappeared when he fell ill and after he died a new will was found, with a very shaky signature, leaving everything to his new wife. She gave my MIL £10k to fuck off, which she accepted for no sane reason; I believe she said she'd make sure something would be passed on when she died, but that turned out to be a lie as she left everything to her own children.

I guess it's a case of reverse social mobility in action. Her grandad was a successful accountant who lived in a great big fuck-off house in Somerset, my MIL got a degree in art from a Northern shithole, decided to stay there and has worked her entire life doing a very low level job for the council and now my BIL and SIL are either unemployed or in minimum wage jobs, living in extremely rough areas of the aforementioned shithole.
>> No. 461782 Anonymous
12th December 2023
Tuesday 4:28 pm
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Had an interview this morning for a promotion at work, got told about 10 minutes I've got it. I need to share it with someone but my girlfriend won't pick up her phone, I can't tell anyone internally until it's announced tomorrow, I can't tell my ex-colleagues because I've been told one of them went for the job (it was advertised externally) but I haven't been told who yet and I can't tell my friends because they'll get jealous.

In short, yay.
>> No. 461783 Anonymous
12th December 2023
Tuesday 4:35 pm
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>>461782
Well done! Have a nice meal or whatever makes you happy and celebrate. That's great news.
>> No. 461786 Anonymous
12th December 2023
Tuesday 4:53 pm
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>>461782

Well played lad.
>> No. 461787 Anonymous
12th December 2023
Tuesday 5:42 pm
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>>461780

> That will mysteriously disappeared when he fell ill and after he died a new will was found, with a very shaky signature, leaving everything to his new wife.

You can store your will with HMCTS for a small fee of £20. This doesn't completely make tampering impossible, and a will held by them is no more legally binding than a subsequent will somebody pens and keeps at home, but it'll ensure that there is a copy of it in a secure place.
>> No. 461788 Anonymous
12th December 2023
Tuesday 6:09 pm
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>>461787

Is there a way to have a will that is legally binding? It always seems to me that they're a bit pointless if everyone is just going to squabble over it and the executor keeps it all to themselves out of spite in the end anyway.
>> No. 461789 Anonymous
12th December 2023
Tuesday 6:23 pm
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>>461788
Yes you get a solicitor to check and witness it.
>> No. 461790 Anonymous
12th December 2023
Tuesday 7:14 pm
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Tried a new vape flavour. 'Dragon's Dream'. As I filled the tank, it smelled of Red Bull, which was a bad sign. Energy drink flavour vape is grim. It actually tastes like very mild watermelon. I looked it up on the website, it says 'dragonfruit and blueberry'. The flavour is perhaps too subtle.
>> No. 461791 Anonymous
12th December 2023
Tuesday 8:24 pm
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I've been in what I can only describe as a stupor these past two days. I had yesterday and today off, despite ostensibly being fine as of yesterday afternoon, but I've barely moved today and have spent most of my time reading about the various Nazi criminals who got off essentially scot-free. Given that I've hardly eaten or drank either I'm suprised I'm not ill for real all over again.
>> No. 461792 Anonymous
13th December 2023
Wednesday 2:17 am
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Youtube keeps recommending videos about autism to me although I haven't searched autism at all. What gives.
>> No. 461793 Anonymous
13th December 2023
Wednesday 5:18 am
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>>461792
Have you been watching lots of videos about trains? You never hear anyone being called an anorak these days, it's always autism now.
>> No. 461795 Anonymous
13th December 2023
Wednesday 8:09 am
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>>461793

Someone on rudgwick got all pedantic with me about something the other day and said "if we were on a [subject] focussed sub you'd be laughed at for posting that source", and my response was "well we're not on a [subject] focussed sub, and I don't care what the kind of anoraks who post on them would think."

I think it's a great insult, but an insult has to be understood to be effective; and I don't think as many people get the implication you're calling them an insufferably annoying nerd as if you used autist.
>> No. 461796 Anonymous
13th December 2023
Wednesday 8:35 am
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>>461795
I miss the days when we used to have various words for troll, like when I was on sports forums about 15/20 years ago wind-up merchant was frequently used instead so people would be accused of wumming. I can't remember the last time I saw something described as a flame war. Even troll itself has been so misused that it's now synonymous with "someone who disagrees with me." Sometimes it feels like the internet has narrowed the range of vocabulary used.
>> No. 461797 Anonymous
13th December 2023
Wednesday 8:42 am
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>>461796

It probably has. I don't know if language anoraks are studying it yet, although I'd imagine it's a subject of great interest to them and we'll see whole books about it at some point, but I reckon we're seeing the Internet create it's own sort of universal dialect. I suspect that given a few generations regional dialects, which were already much less pronounced in the post-war era where people grow up being influenced by TV and movies, will be almost extinct.

That's why I'm always reciting that one poem that goes "reyt darn in't coyal oyal weyer't muck slarts darn't winders" to people at any chance I get.
>> No. 461799 Anonymous
13th December 2023
Wednesday 11:16 am
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I've not much to add, but whenever I catch myself saying "vibe" I get a little bit pissed off. Five years ago there must have been another word and phrase I would have used, but now I'll say fucking "vibe", like a tit.
>> No. 461800 Anonymous
13th December 2023
Wednesday 12:26 pm
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>>461792

All of the social media algorithms seem to be really pushing autism and ADHD-related content. I dunno why, but I assume it's the same "people who watch one of these videos often go on to watch loads of these videos" correlation that tends to result in conspiracy and angry politics stuff getting pushed.
>> No. 461801 Anonymous
13th December 2023
Wednesday 12:46 pm
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>>461799

I really dislike the way that word has been culturally appropriated by zoomer kids, when me and my druggie mates used to use it as part of our psychedelic hippy throwback slang, and now if I use it I just sound like I'm trying to be down with the kids.

>>461800

I wonder if it's just throwing it at young/early middle aged men in general because there's a big trend of mental health issues among that demographic. I have watched some of that stuff and overall I did feel it was helpful to have a bit more knowledge on the subject. I suppose it's unhelpful to encourage people self diagnosing, but when the actual mental health services are basically non-existent at this point it's better than nothing.

I think the ADHD stuff in particular is applicable to a lot of men even if they are not clinically suffering with it- The way society itself is configured nowadays sort of slants against the "typical" male mental needs, in a way that sort of mirrors what ADHD sufferers struggle with. There are fewer and fewer jobs that a bloke can do with that hands-on, task oriented skillset, instead everything is sedentary, all about computers and emails and more social skills, there's less opportunity for lads to just be lads. We even see hard evidence in schools that boys just need more physical stimulation and a focus for their energy in order to concentrate better.

I dunno, there's a fine line between that and proper manosphere bollocks unfortunately, but I definitely think we have built a world that is functionally quite unhealthy for male mental health.
>> No. 461825 Anonymous
14th December 2023
Thursday 4:23 pm
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I got into another one of those "oh noes the schoolkids are vaping!" arguments on rudgwick today. I wonder if there's a crossover between vehement anti-vape people, and anti-vaccine people?

It's a similar slip of logic. A thing which is highly beneficial against another very bad and genuinely harmful thing, but which they are suspicious of because it might have its own side effects or drawbacks, no matter how much the benefit outweighs those drawbacks.

I'm not the type to call such people stupid, I don't think people are stupid for coming to misguided conclusions, but I do find it interesting to speculate why those views become so entrenched that you can't talk sense to them.
>> No. 461829 Anonymous
14th December 2023
Thursday 6:03 pm
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I can't find the thread where otherlad was telling us about the new house he bought and we were all deriding him so I'll ask here instead:

1. If I'm selling my place, do I need to pay conveyancing solicitors up-front? I have no money, that's why I'm selling the fucking bastard thing.
2. How much do I actually get from the sale? I have dyscalculia, nobody will explain it to me, and I haven't found a web app that can satisfy my curiosity of yet.
>> No. 461831 Anonymous
14th December 2023
Thursday 6:07 pm
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>>461825
Why do you keep getting into arguments with people on Reddiṭ?
>> No. 461832 Anonymous
14th December 2023
Thursday 6:10 pm
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>>461829
1.No, they don't know how much to charge you until it's done anyway. Mine took their fee from the payout before transferring it to me.
2. Depends.
>> No. 461833 Anonymous
14th December 2023
Thursday 6:11 pm
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>>461829

1. You'll usually pay a small deposit, with most of the fees paid on completion.
2. The sale price, minus the amount still owed on the mortgage. If your house sells for £150,000 and you still owe £140,000 on the mortgage, you'll pocket £10,000. If you don't know, your mortgage company can tell you the balance remaining on your mortgage.
>> No. 461834 Anonymous
14th December 2023
Thursday 6:31 pm
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>>461831

Boredom.
>> No. 461835 Anonymous
14th December 2023
Thursday 7:25 pm
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The voices I hallucinate due to schizophrenia recently often say the "n*gger killing nightmare, chaos incarnate". Previous common stuff is "[my girlfriend] was found dead with three greatswords in her chest" and "notorious serial killer [my name]". I take meds to stop it but I can't stop them completely.
>> No. 461836 Anonymous
14th December 2023
Thursday 7:46 pm
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>>461835

It isn't remotely the same, but I get constant intrusive thoughts. I've thought the phrase "FUCKY BUM BUM TIME" several times a minute for the past two days. I try to tune it out and just let it wash over me, but it's quite distracting.
>> No. 461837 Anonymous
15th December 2023
Friday 12:00 am
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>>461836

I'm really glad it's not just me. Trouble is I have been isolated for too long and I find it hard not to absent-mindedly vocalise them. It just happens subconsciously like how a normal person might hum a little tune as they go about their business, except I come out with shit like "I'm going to kiiiill you in your sleeee-eeep~"

Sage for complete mental subnormality.
>> No. 461839 Anonymous
15th December 2023
Friday 4:29 am
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I can't sleep.
>> No. 461841 Anonymous
15th December 2023
Friday 8:26 am
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I think my TV is on the way out as bottom half of the screen is now darker than the top and it looks a little fuzzy. I can't really complain as I've had it for just shy of ten years.

What's sort of the standard for a TV these days?
>> No. 461842 Anonymous
15th December 2023
Friday 8:56 am
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>>461825

Checked back this morning and I got more upvotes than the other guy. So I officially won. It's a good feeling knowing you were right about something on the Internet and you can go about your day knowing you are smarter and more rational than other people.

One day I reckon we'll just replace traditional democracy with social media arguments, and despite how completely fucking retarded the average internet user is, I think it will be an improvement.
>> No. 461843 Anonymous
15th December 2023
Friday 9:03 am
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>>461842
Mate. Take a long, hard look at what you have just posted.
>> No. 461844 Anonymous
15th December 2023
Friday 9:32 am
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>>461842
+1

>>461843
-1
>> No. 461847 Anonymous
15th December 2023
Friday 11:20 am
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>>461839
.gs is having its annual Christmas breakdown.

I think its all the sweets at work, we're not a people who should have unsupervised access to sugar.

>>461842
Did you have a good celebratory puff as you posted that while pretending to be Willy Wonka with your fruity vape?
>> No. 461849 Anonymous
15th December 2023
Friday 11:31 am
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>>461847

Vaping will never quite be cool in the same way that cigarettes were cool, will it?

Making cigarettes cool took a millenia-long history of tobacco smoking and then pilied on untold millions in making it socially appealing, coinciding with the golden age of cinema. It feels like a bit of a cosmic joke that one of the most objectively shite habits you can have for your health was accelerated by an era of massive capitalistic greed and production of timeless art.

I haven't smoked for a decade or more, but I still occasionally get off a train or out of a crowded room and have a (very distant) pang. Chewing gum helps, and can be perceived as "sporty" or "active", but it just doesn't carry the same cultural implications.
>> No. 461850 Anonymous
15th December 2023
Friday 11:41 am
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>>461849
NOBODY THINKS CHEWING GUM IS SPORTY.

WHAT IS HAPPENING TO YOU LADS? ARE YOU ALL HAVING AN EPISODE AT THE SAME TIME? I FEEL LIKE I'M MISSING OUT ON SOME FORM OF COLLECTIVE HYSTERIA.
>> No. 461851 Anonymous
15th December 2023
Friday 12:03 pm
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>>461850
>NOBODY THINKS CHEWING GUM IS SPORTY.
13 Premier League titles says otherwise.
>> No. 461852 Anonymous
15th December 2023
Friday 12:04 pm
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>>461851
Nothing says sporty like a grey haired man with a red nose.
>> No. 461853 Anonymous
15th December 2023
Friday 12:11 pm
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>>461852
I don't know if you're being needlessly pedantic or you genuinely don't know who Alex Ferguson is. I guess what I'm saying is, not every post needs an immediate reply. And I'm well aware of the irony.
>> No. 461854 Anonymous
15th December 2023
Friday 12:23 pm
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>>461853
He's not an athlete. I've never looked at him and thought he appears fit and active.
>> No. 461855 Anonymous
15th December 2023
Friday 12:26 pm
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I associate chewing gum with being a bit slutty in the 90s. Usually women but possibly Alex Ferguson was too.
>> No. 461856 Anonymous
15th December 2023
Friday 12:32 pm
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>>461855
This doesn't look like the kind of place where lots of sex parties have happened.

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/142081142#/
>> No. 461857 Anonymous
15th December 2023
Friday 12:35 pm
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>>461856

I see a lot of wipe-clean flooring.
>> No. 461858 Anonymous
15th December 2023
Friday 2:11 pm
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I like to get up now and again and put my feet against the radiator to warm them up.
>> No. 461859 Anonymous
15th December 2023
Friday 2:23 pm
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>>461858
Have you considered wearing socks?
>> No. 461860 Anonymous
15th December 2023
Friday 2:53 pm
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>>461859

I have, I've been wearing them most of my life, in fact. Not the same pair that whole time, obviously. But I do like a good pair of socks. I hope Santa brings me some this year.

I got some Crash Bandicoot socks once, I wore them so much they got holes in. Last year somebody got me some Star Wars ones, but I don't even like Star Wars. Put a dampener on the whole day honestly. I think I'm just going to buy myself a new set of the Crash Bandicoot ones just in case I don't get any good ones this year.
>> No. 461861 Anonymous
15th December 2023
Friday 3:30 pm
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Making a big, creamy, chicken and pasta bake and I'm so fucking up for it. Inspired, presumably, by the fat bloke in the OP I've been eating less and snacking a lot less, so every meal is like ambrosia to me now.

No, not the sodding custard, shut up.
>> No. 461863 Anonymous
15th December 2023
Friday 4:14 pm
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There was too much cream, but no plan survives contact with the enemy.
>> No. 461873 Anonymous
15th December 2023
Friday 11:06 pm
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All this talk about socks recently and a friend of mine said their socks had gone to sleep earlier today, meaning they'd dropped below his ankles. I'd never heard that before - is it a thing?
>> No. 461874 Anonymous
15th December 2023
Friday 11:20 pm
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Is Grimsby really that bad? Never been there.

I know it's Talk TV, but still.
>> No. 461875 Anonymous
16th December 2023
Saturday 12:19 am
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>>461873
Socks have an elastic bit at the top where the cheap ones will go with enough time/wear but it's stupid rare to happen.

Diabetics have socks specifically designed without this.

>>461874
It's nowhere near the worst for crime but like the rest of the coastline it's dying a slow death. The problem is a lack of good jobs that creates a simple waste of people who would otherwise be productive and the impact of long-term unemployment on mental health and simple aspirations.

The thing is Grimsby is big enough to bounce back. It's dead towns like Horden where you can see how really fucked things are:

>> No. 461877 Anonymous
16th December 2023
Saturday 4:01 am
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>>4618625

My latest rudgwicksteamshow.co.uk nonsense had another user block me for suggesting Chris Moyles doesn't fact check the answers of the people he interviews live, ahead of time. I wasn't even being belligerent or laughing at him.

>>461835

If it's any comfort I also get intrusive thoughts, more like the other lad's but still sometimes sinister. The intensity may be varied but you're not alone in it.
>> No. 461878 Anonymous
16th December 2023
Saturday 7:21 am
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>>461874
It's like anywhere really, there's nice parts of Grimsby but the rough parts are very grim. I wouldn't day it sticks out as particularly bad, but when I used to visit there for work I'd generally go south at Barnetby Top and through the country roads which take you past the likes of Humberside Airport rather than continuing along the A180 and going through the especially run down parts.

If you go to the roughest parts and film then you can make most towns in the country look shit.
>> No. 461881 Anonymous
16th December 2023
Saturday 10:31 am
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>>461878

I visited Barrow-in-Furness recently and I was surprised to find that it had some reasonably nice bits, which in hindsight is quite stupid of me - obviously there are some extremely bits, but somewhere with a BAE factory is going to have a decent number of well-paid professionals.

I'm struggling to think of anywhere bigger than a pit village that completely lacks any redeeming features. Redcar has a terrible reputation, but a lot of it is reasonably pleasant. I was going to say Runcorn, but the new town estates east of the A533 are basically fine if you ignore the smell. Maybe Rochdale?
>> No. 461884 Anonymous
16th December 2023
Saturday 12:22 pm
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>>461881
I was very impressed when I went to Rochdale; it's much better than I was expecting. The centre still has all the big buildings from when it was a thriving industrial powerhouse; it's only when you go into the suburbs that it gets awful. I visited Rochdale because it's at the end of one of the lines on the Manchester Metrolink; I did the same for Eccles and that looked utterly irredeemable for the five minutes I spent there before deciding it had absolutely nothing.

My mum grew up in Saltburn and took us there once when we were kids, and that's the other grimmest place I've ever seen. Newport in Wales looked awful from the train, but again I didn't spend long there and my opinion was mostly based on the hideous poisonous river with mud and rubbish piled up by the train tracks; it probably has nice parts too.
>> No. 461886 Anonymous
16th December 2023
Saturday 1:11 pm
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>>461884

Rochdale is one of those places that can be deceivingly nice if you just visit the centre, the miserable parts is everything around it, where people have to actually live. Every town has their nice bits and shite bits, but Rochdale seems like it is like 90% those cramped back to backs on narrow streets, where your front door opens straight on to the pavement and there's some kind of grim industrial shite directly on the other side of the road.

Not everyone can live in nice leafy suburbs but those places are the ones that are just bad for the soul.

I mean, even those grim 1960s tower blocks that have fallen into total are less depressing than the industrial livestock pens those houses feel like. The brutalist commieblocks at least come from an intention of optimism, they have grass and trees around them and don't feel so claustrophibic; but those rows of red brick terraces come from an era of this country where the working classes were really treated more like cattle, human capital, and you can feel it.
>> No. 461905 Anonymous
16th December 2023
Saturday 5:19 pm
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Birmingham and Cardiff were both surprisingly pleasant when I went. The centres at least. I used to visit my ex in Shard End a lot and that wasn't so nice, but not so horrible that I feared for my life.
>> No. 461955 Anonymous
19th December 2023
Tuesday 12:08 am
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How much piss do you think someone could drink in one sitting without ending up in hospital? Asking for a friend.
>> No. 461956 Anonymous
19th December 2023
Tuesday 1:24 am
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>>461955
Probably loads, but the appeal would wear off after a pint or so. I did drink someone else's piss once; the worst thing about it is that it's the exact same temperature as your body, which feels very strange. That and the #lad #banter for the rest of your life about that time you drank your mate's piss.
>> No. 461957 Anonymous
19th December 2023
Tuesday 2:40 am
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>>461956

Was this a dare? Or out of sheer curiosity what someone else's piss tasted like?
>> No. 461961 Anonymous
19th December 2023
Tuesday 12:07 pm
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>>461957
We were very, very drunk, and it was a dare that came about after I said I would rather do that than whatever other dare had been mentioned. I was very sick not long after due to all the drinking, so in theory my friend’s piss has been in my mouth twice.
>> No. 461965 Anonymous
19th December 2023
Tuesday 5:34 pm
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Coworker wanked me off in my car while choking me and calling me a filthy slut.

Merry christmas lads
>> No. 461966 Anonymous
19th December 2023
Tuesday 5:50 pm
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>>461961

Do you reckon it's worth taking up as a fetish?
>> No. 461967 Anonymous
19th December 2023
Tuesday 6:13 pm
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>>461966
I am way ahead of you there, but it’s worth mentioning that this was a male friend and I am not gay nor willing to try the gay as an experiment.
>> No. 461968 Anonymous
19th December 2023
Tuesday 6:19 pm
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>>461967
Is drinking male piss gay?
>> No. 461969 Anonymous
19th December 2023
Tuesday 7:16 pm
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>>461968

Only if you drink it from the source, as it were.
>> No. 461970 Anonymous
19th December 2023
Tuesday 9:08 pm
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>>461968
Once is an experiment. Twice is a habit. It's the habit that's gay.
>> No. 461971 Anonymous
19th December 2023
Tuesday 9:42 pm
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>>461970
If I was a cannibal I wouldn't get all funny and insecure about eating meat from a man and insist on only eating woman-flesh, lest I be thought of as gay. Consuming piss isn't really that different.
>> No. 461972 Anonymous
19th December 2023
Tuesday 10:00 pm
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Pop this on the stereo at your Christmas party, see if anyone notices.


>> No. 461977 Anonymous
20th December 2023
Wednesday 12:56 pm
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Just popped to Morrisons and my nostrils were getting singed by an old couple half the aisle away. They absolutely honked of piss and earwax. It wasn't a mild or mellow piss it was full on, heavily concentrated aggressive burning piss.

I hope that doesn't happen to me when I'm a pensioner.
>> No. 461978 Anonymous
20th December 2023
Wednesday 3:41 pm
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>>461977

I wouldn't worry about it. We're never going to get a pension, we'll have to work at B&Q until we die.
>> No. 461979 Anonymous
20th December 2023
Wednesday 4:02 pm
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>>461978
I've got about £13k a year going into my pension, largely because my deductions would be over 70% thanks to the child benefit tax, so I'm on course to retire when I'm 60.
>> No. 461980 Anonymous
20th December 2023
Wednesday 4:47 pm
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I swear to god people are using these emojis as coded messages. What possibly could it say? Even starting at the hearts, reindeer and horses is tough enough.
>> No. 461982 Anonymous
20th December 2023
Wednesday 8:56 pm
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Just had a big dump after dinner and now I'm hungry again.
>> No. 461983 Anonymous
20th December 2023
Wednesday 10:34 pm
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>>461977
An old woman pissed herself in B&M Bargains a few weeks ago. The whole shop stank of piss but I couldn't tell where it was coming from. The smell was in aisles that were not being mopped up by the staff who were mopping up the piss. It was only when I was paying and the old woman in front of me left the shop and the staff all turned to each other and complained about it, that I understood where it was coming from.
>> No. 461985 Anonymous
20th December 2023
Wednesday 11:08 pm
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I massively upset my (female) best friend a couple of days ago, and now she's not talking to me. I don't fully understand what I did, but I clearly did an autism and said something that I didn't realise was monumentally hurtful. She's not speaking to me so I can't ask her, but luckily another female friend was willing to lay into me earlier and call me a horrible thoughtless bastard. I should really have been more thoughtful, apparently, and not said whatever I said. I asked her to explain it and she told me I should just know. I tried to guess, and was told I need to realise that there are things she doesn't tell me and that I don't know everything. I reiterated that I absolutely realise that, and that's why I was asking. But she wouldn't tell me. I managed to piece bits of it together, but this absolute conversational landmine that has almost ruined one of the best friendships of my adult life seemingly needs to remain confidential. I'm happy to apologise, because I really upset my friend, but apparently my apologies sound hollow because I don't know what I'm apologising for. I've never been in this situation before, and I know I sound like an absolute perfect storm of longstanding issues and autism here, but I'm just so frustrated that those 1970s comedians were right about something.

Before I said the hurtful thing, my bestie confided that she has been feeling like everyone was out to get her recently. Because I had no idea what I'd done, I was really worried that maybe I'd done nothing and our mutual friends would take my side and make everything worse. I didn't want that to happen, and luckily, it hasn't. I even told the friend I spoke to how relieved I was that she's on the other friend's side. Hopefully that will count for something and I will be forgiven soon.
>> No. 461987 Anonymous
20th December 2023
Wednesday 11:57 pm
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>>461985
Sounce like they're both being absolute cunts m8, you don't even know what you said to trigger this, so they know there's no way you meant any harm by whatever you said.

Is she going to apologise for calling your sincere apology hollow on the grounds that you can't read her mind? When all this is over?

>was told I need to realise that there are things she doesn't tell me and that I don't know everything

So she's saying you don't even know about the thing, but you're a bastard because you should be more thoughtful of the thing she says you don't even know about? That's manipulative. Really they're bullying you here.
>> No. 461990 Anonymous
21st December 2023
Thursday 12:55 am
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So like, imigration is bad and all that what with rapists coming in and stealing our wimins, but I heard recently that 'the west' has been exploiting the Aficas for a long ass time, continuing to this day, and that should be repaid by allowing the darkies in.

What's a reasonable thought on this?
>> No. 461996 Anonymous
21st December 2023
Thursday 4:22 am
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>>461985
Let her come around in her own time, I wouldn't keep meddling to try and resolve it even if it is keeping your preoccupied.

You might not have even done anything wrong. It probably does happen with men as well as women, but sometimes they're in the mood where they just want to pick a fight and they're looking for any excuse to set this off.
>> No. 461997 Anonymous
21st December 2023
Thursday 4:56 am
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It's taken me 4 days of leave to irreparably ruin my sleep schedule. Which is annoying as I do that thing Bill Gates does where I plan out my day to the minute and I'd given my self some nice plans over Christmas with a balance between work and play.

I feel like one of us has this problem every year. Is an all-nighter the only way to fix this?

>>461985
You're a grown man. Why are you getting in this much of a state over a mate? Fuck 'em.
>> No. 461998 Anonymous
21st December 2023
Thursday 6:56 am
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Bit windy out.
>> No. 461999 Anonymous
21st December 2023
Thursday 8:23 am
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>>461997
She's not just his mate, she's his best mate. I can understand him being upset she won't talk to him all of a sudden.
>> No. 462002 Anonymous
21st December 2023
Thursday 9:55 am
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My chemist is shit and they're always losing my prescription, but I keep going there because the lass on the counter is an incredibly attractive plus-sized redhead.

>>461990

Migrants are, by and large, the best and brightest - they have the means and the motivation to travel halfway across the world for a better life. That's good for us, but it's less good for countries like Nigeria that are suffering from shortages of doctors, engineers and other highly skilled workers. They're still a benefit to their home country because they tend to send a lot of money back to their families, but the very poorest see little of that benefit. We do need skilled migrants, particularly at the moment, but if we actually want to help poor people we need to target international development aid at the most needy.

FWIW I think that the narrative of colonial exploitation doesn't really do much to explain why Africa is so poor. Ethiopia was never colonised, but it's still shite. Singapore and Hong Kong were both British colonies until very recently, but they're both staggeringly wealthy. I'm not saying that colonialism is good, but it's a lot more complicated than most people on either side of the argument are willing to admit.
>> No. 462003 Anonymous
21st December 2023
Thursday 9:55 am
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I have moved out of London and the lack of sirens, light pollution, drunken revellers, people shouting in the street, noisy flat neighbours has meant I'm having actual, undisturbed sleeps consistently for the first time in years. Oh and I've got the space for a much bigger bed now.

I'm having really long, in depth dreams, which I never normally do.

It's kind of amazing how you just get used to a certain way of living and then when you change it, wonder how you ever put up with it in the first place.

I love London but I am now questioning why I felt it so important to feel I had to live there.
>> No. 462004 Anonymous
21st December 2023
Thursday 11:39 am
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>>462002

Italy occupied the horn of Africa from the 1880s and had a considerable influence over Ethiopian politics. Colonialism isn't everything, but it is clearly one of the main factors in how quickly a country could industrialise and participate in the world economy.

Writers like Acemoglu in "Why Nations Fail" pay lip service to colonialism, but then keep referring back to "bad institutions", neglecting to mention whether they had a history of mismanagement for the benefit of external powers or how profitable that was.

That said, the idea of looser migration requirements as compensation is less clear, at least to me. I would look instead to the very real predatory and exploitative relationships between the Global North and South, for example the vast debt owed by national governments to private companies like BlackRock, HSBC, and JP Morgan. In some counties, this can often outstrip the internal spending on essentials like health.
>> No. 462005 Anonymous
21st December 2023
Thursday 12:08 pm
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I thought a lot of Africa was poor and undeveloped because of the lack of waterways for trade? It's no good having a great big fuck off river if it can't be used for travelling because it has great big fuck off waterfalls.
>> No. 462006 Anonymous
21st December 2023
Thursday 12:58 pm
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>>462004

That graph is more about low healthcare spending than high debt. DR Congo's debts were mostly written off in 2010, so they currently have a debt-to-GDP ratio of 13% - lower than any OECD country and dramatically lower than the UK at 104%. Some of that debt is on unfavourable terms from private lenders, but most of it is heavily subsidised.

They're struggling to manage a relatively tiny debt burden because they barely have an economy. It's not that they're spending crippling amounts on debt repayments, just that they don't have any public services to speak of. What little money they do make is mostly skimmed off through corruption - either government corruption, or local corruption by some of the dozens of militant groups controlling various parts of the DR.
>> No. 462007 Anonymous
21st December 2023
Thursday 1:48 pm
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Having coffee and apple pie at a Tesco cafe right now.

The simple things.


And the lass behind the counter is fit.
>> No. 462009 Anonymous
21st December 2023
Thursday 5:32 pm
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>>462006

I think you're committing the same error as Acemoglu, what are the historical reasons for barely having an economy? Sometimes it can be natural disadvantages as >>462005 suggests, but colonial rule was a tremendous setback. Natural resources were extracted in hugely asymmetrical trade agreements at best and outright force at worst. The corruption you mention very much have their origins in such relationships.

And yes, even small debt repayments are crippling for a country with a small economy. It speaks volumes that private companies still pursue such repayments, and that national governments prioritise it over something like healthcare.

Not everything is down to colonial rule, but it's a huge factor.
>> No. 462010 Anonymous
21st December 2023
Thursday 6:47 pm
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>>461987
>>461996
>>461997
>>461999
So, we're friends again. Yay! The bad thing I did (and to be fair, I did know it was this) was to observe a pattern in how people keep getting really angry at her. Such insights could be very helpful in avoiding such conflict in future, but it turns out I unwittingly phrased it so it sounded more like, "Everyone who has ever been angry with you was right to be angry, and here is a list of every bad thing you've ever done, you heartless bitch." Which I obviously don't believe. Also, the pattern I observed was completely imaginary, because she had apparently told me some things that were not true which I based my theory on. But I won't draw attention to this. I'm not that much of a sperg.
>> No. 462011 Anonymous
21st December 2023
Thursday 7:13 pm
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>>462010
Did you grovel?
>> No. 462012 Anonymous
21st December 2023
Thursday 8:01 pm
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>>462011
Yes. Daily. It didn't work the first couple of times, but a gif of a cartoon kitten holding a sign saying "Sorry" seemed to do the trick.
>> No. 462013 Anonymous
21st December 2023
Thursday 8:10 pm
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>>462010

What if you were right and she's just a bit of an arsehole? Because that's kind of how you make it sound, lad.

Honestly anyone who wants to go in a sulk with and then refuse to tell me what they are sulking about can fuck off. It's such a base, primitive method of manipulation that I feel as if using it on me shows a lack of respect verging on contempt.

One of the last rows before I split up with the ex was over that. She seemed to realise I just wasn't having it any more and apologised, which was rare for her; but clearly when that kind of person realises their bullshit isn't going to fly, that's when they decide to start looking for the exit.
>> No. 462014 Anonymous
21st December 2023
Thursday 8:22 pm
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>>462012
Have you considered having a bit of self respect?
>> No. 462017 Anonymous
21st December 2023
Thursday 10:34 pm
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>>462009
I don't want to have a cunt-off over Christmas about colonialism. That's what Christmas dinner is for. But there's a lot more going on in Africa than colonial rule and I don't think it helps anyone aside from African-Americans and kleptocrats/despots to make it the shining star.

Post-independence the continent was generally doing extremely well, better than East Asia, up until the commodity crash of the 1970s. You had a population boom combined with an explosion in schools and infrastructure. Unfortunately being resource economies when the times got tough they then had mass unemployment of the (now enormous) youth population followed by HIV brought about by rapid urbanisation and a unique vulnerability to international food prices. I'm not really sure how things would've gone otherwise, if you have a fuck-ton of tin then you build tin mines - you can blame colonialism, you can blame geography or you can blame useless government but it all turns to reductionism when in reality everything went wrong for the continent in short order.

As for the 'thought' otherlad heard. It's nonsense and I don't really think it helps anyone, certainly not us when we have simultaneously a brain drain to the US and huge numbers of unskilled workers coming in.
>> No. 462018 Anonymous
22nd December 2023
Friday 9:18 am
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>>461990
>What's a reasonable thought on this?
Repayment would look something like technical assistance with development efforts and debt forgiveness.

>fine I'll allow you to clean my toilets, push wages down, and keep eyes on migration
Is transparently self-serving.
>> No. 462021 Anonymous
22nd December 2023
Friday 3:52 pm
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>>462017

None of what you said precludes colonial legacy. I'd argue many of those problems are rooted in the history of colonial practice, e.g. where other countries may have quickly industrialised through enforcing protections on their natural resources, countries with colonial pasts couldn't afford to.

Essentially I think you're describing after effects. We're mostly in agreement, but I'd just weight colonial history far more heavily.
>> No. 462022 Anonymous
22nd December 2023
Friday 4:14 pm
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It's Christmas lads, just let it go.

You're on an obscure internet forum, even if you win the argument, you still lose in the life you've wasted trying to be right.
>> No. 462023 Anonymous
22nd December 2023
Friday 4:19 pm
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My mum has casually mentioned to me today that when she was on a trip about four weeks ago she collapsed and a doctor checked her out because she was unresponsive for a while. She's had an ECG test which has come back clear and is now waiting on blood tests.

A few years back the mum of one of my work colleagues kept trying to hide the fact she'd had a stroke, which meant the effects were more severe than if she'd received medical treatment sooner. What is it with old people and downplaying things? I'm in regular contact with her and it's taken roughly a month for her to mention it to her whereas my dad will glady share all the grisly details when the doctor cleans out his ears or treats his toenails.
>> No. 462025 Anonymous
22nd December 2023
Friday 4:55 pm
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>>462022

I'm a historylad. I'm not personally invested in convincing anyone, I just like discussing this sort of thing. A proper cuntoff would have probably involved personal insults by now. Or shitty one-liners, if we were on Twitter.
>> No. 462026 Anonymous
22nd December 2023
Friday 5:40 pm
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>>462021
I even accepted that colonial history had an influence. So >>462022 we're in agreement, no need to have a Christmas teary, mumlad. I'd just say that it's overstated by interests groups for reasons.

>where other countries may have quickly industrialised through enforcing protections on their natural resources, countries with colonial pasts couldn't afford to.

They absolutely could afford to where a functional state existed - that was exemplified by the authoritarian/one-party cleave of OAU politics. Even today trade barriers within the AU can be absolutely eye-watering and that's part of the problem because things just aren't that cheap in Africa relative to purchasing power - Ethiopia being a classic example. I'd say most African states even nationalised their natural resources post-independence and were for a time able to make a fortune during the post-war boom years.

But as I've alluded to rich resources and kleptocrats sowed the seeds of their own destruction as investment naturally gravitated to extractive mono-economies and the frailty of African centres of power leads to natural resources funding decentralised thiefdoms and perpetual civil war. That began during the colonial era but I don't think that deserves to rank as first-mover to why sub-Saharan Africa, certainly today, should be poorly developed. Did British colonial Africa deliberately empower outlying tribal power structures in a deliberate plan or was it the reality of just how bloody difficult it is to exercise sovereignty on a continent where much of it has spent nearly the entirety of its history unknown to the outside world.

In short, you won't find an easy lesson of development here along with the lines of East Asian development.
>> No. 462028 Anonymous
22nd December 2023
Friday 6:51 pm
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>>462026
The only tears on my cheeks are from you both boring me to tears with this GCSE level analysis at Christmas.
>> No. 462031 Anonymous
23rd December 2023
Saturday 12:20 am
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>>462026
Can you name a time when African countries redrew their borders along tribal lines rather than colonial ones? I'm a different poster but I don't think it's ever happened. However, if it has, I would be very interested to hear about it.
>> No. 462032 Anonymous
23rd December 2023
Saturday 2:02 am
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I trimmed a tree today because its branches have been affecting my satellite TV reception. More so in the warmer months with those branches bearing leaves, but in bad weather, signal strength and quality were down even now.
>> No. 462034 Anonymous
23rd December 2023
Saturday 2:37 am
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>>462031
There's been a few instances:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_border_changes_(1914%E2%80%93present)

But generally African states are murderously, genocidally opposed to any border changes on principle. There's a realpolitik answer to it that nobody wants to surrender sovereignty, an idealist answer that, like the EU, the AU can create a continent without national friction more akin to South America and then there's acknowledging the reality of what the precedent would lead to - scroll down that wikipedia page to see Europe's border changes or look at the few instances where new African states have emerged (South Sudan, Eretria) and the bloodshed involved.

It's actually an interesting story to look at in how African statehood developed from the idealists of post-independence. There were two strands of thought on the matter that mirror how a lot of supranational institutions go where the OAU in the 60s had idealists lead by Kwame Nkrumah who saw Africa uniting in a federation which was defeated by more national conceptions of unity promoted by the Arab states that saw a looser cohabitation similar to how South America has ended up. It's all very familiar. Just this time the excuse to putting it all off was that they needed to push out the last of the colonial governments and end white minority-rule, which once completed was when the OAU became the AU.

So if you see some long-haired student this Christmas talking about how everything bad that's ever happened is all down to civil servants cracking out the rulers then you can tell him to direct his anger at Morocco and Nkrumah-sceptics.

Thank you for reading my masters thesis on supernationalism in Africa, an effort that was extremely useful because that's the way the world is going and we'll never ever see Britain vote to leave the EU.
>> No. 462105 Anonymous
26th December 2023
Tuesday 4:13 pm
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I know this is retarded but how do people usually show electronic proof of address, bank statements, etc? I have to upload some info for a self-review thing but can't think how to get the information in, other than scanning at the library, USB and return home or asking a friend to photo with their smartphone then email me the files.
>> No. 462106 Anonymous
26th December 2023
Tuesday 4:36 pm
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>>462105
I set up an ISA with Vanguard earlier and they wanted me to verify my bank account, so I all I did was pull off a PDF bank statement via Starling's app and upload it.
>> No. 462107 Anonymous
26th December 2023
Tuesday 7:27 pm
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>>462105

I have provided proof of funds for buying my house by sending them a screenshot of my internet banking page. That's the only specific example I can remember but I've done multiple proof-ofs this way. 99% of people don't know how to edit an image file if it's not applying a filter to it so apparently that's secure enough.
>> No. 462108 Anonymous
26th December 2023
Tuesday 8:15 pm
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>>462106
Sounds like my new years resolution has to be plugging into the paper-less system; online banking, tesco club points, god forbid facebook.
All of this I'm concerned about doing, but there appears to be no alternative. Starting the online review processes offers only homephone, mobile and email contact options.
>> No. 462112 Anonymous
27th December 2023
Wednesday 12:50 pm
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>>462108
You can buy a scanner. I don't do any online banking, and I confess it is a ballache to buy a house, or indeed use any banking services when they close all their branches and tell you to just set up an online account, but I have an old printer/scanner and the printer doesn't work but the scanner works fine. I just scanned all my bank statements and wages, and emailed them. I would warn you, though: if you're buying a house, they will ask for six months of bank statements, and in my case, they never actually sent them back even though they said they would.
>> No. 462113 Anonymous
27th December 2023
Wednesday 2:51 pm
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>>462112
How the fuck did you get a printer/scanner that doesn't shit the bed when the printer is sad for any reason? Waaah, I'm out of yellow ink, can't possibly scan this urgent thing. Wankers.
Anyway, what brand?
>> No. 462114 Anonymous
27th December 2023
Wednesday 3:32 pm
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>>462113
It's an HP printer that I bought about ten years ago. So you won't be able to buy the same one, but I assume whatever £30 three-in-one piece of shit HP sell now will be similar.
>> No. 462115 Anonymous
27th December 2023
Wednesday 4:00 pm
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>>462113

I've been using and recommending Brother printers and printer/scanners for about 15 years. I have never regretted it. If you run out of toner it'll warn you, but it'll keep printing until the pages are completely blank. I've never had one fail, never had one reject an off-brand toner cartridge, never had any bullshit with cloud services or whatever.

If you're planning on scanning a lot of documents, I'd suggest a sheetfed scanner - either a Brother ADS or a Fujitsu Scansnap. You can load a pile of documents in the tray and it'll scan both sides of them automatically, like a reverse printer. An unnecessary luxury if you just need to scan a couple of bank statements, but life-changing if you're self employed and have to deal with loads of invoices and receipts.
>> No. 462117 Anonymous
27th December 2023
Wednesday 4:36 pm
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>>462114
If you get a HP printer now you will be heavily pushed towards their ink subscription services, which has various price plans but apparently their most common one is £2.99 for printing 50 pages per month. IIRC they often sell printers with 6-12 months free subscription, so it could actually be cheaper to buy a new printer every year or so. That's if you want to buy HP these days, which I wouldn't if I could help it.
>> No. 462118 Anonymous
27th December 2023
Wednesday 6:03 pm
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>>462117

HP's home printer business model is a microcosm of everything that's wrong with capitalism in a nutshell. Remember, this is how they'd treat every single appliance and electronic gizmo in your house if they could get away with it, and they are already pushing it that way with cars, which is worrying enough.

I think the general consensus nowadays is that if you want a printer to give you your money's worth, you just have to get a low end laser printer/copier intended for the office market, they cost more up front but they'll last you forever and you won't be beholden to the ink mafia's DRM protection racket.
>> No. 462119 Anonymous
27th December 2023
Wednesday 6:19 pm
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>>462112
What has possessed you to adopt this lifestyle? Keeping track of your finances must be an absolute arse-ache and I say this as a man who logs everything.
>> No. 462121 Anonymous
27th December 2023
Wednesday 6:57 pm
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>>462119

The idea of going to a bank branch does seem faintly ridiculous to me, particularly given that my bank doesn't even have branches. It'd seem a bit like using a payphone or sending a telegram.
>> No. 462124 Anonymous
27th December 2023
Wednesday 9:48 pm
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>>462121
>It'd seem a bit like using a payphone or sending a telegram.

Now that you mention it, there's a lot of BT payphones on the main streets near me. In one sense it's odd that they've not been removed but as the windows have been caked in a layer of grime they've been repurposed as booths for people smoke crack in which appears to be tolerated by the police. It was perhaps telling that when a pub near me got a new owner who did it up the payphone outside soon had all the glass smashed.

Maybe that's what will happen to bank branches. And in a way probably is given who the fuck else is carrying large amounts of cash these days.
>> No. 462125 Anonymous
27th December 2023
Wednesday 11:07 pm
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What's the point of AJ Odudu? She's on telly a lot but I have no idea why.
>> No. 462126 Anonymous
28th December 2023
Thursday 12:35 am
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>>462124
We used to be able to make a reverse-charge call as simple hack. Seems trite now, but wanted to get home? Do a reverse call of someone who had a car. You had a couple of seconds to express who was with you and why you needed a lift.
>> No. 462127 Anonymous
28th December 2023
Thursday 2:35 am
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Just thinking about an office job I had not long after I'd left school. My manager was really rude and demanding to me, so a lot of my colleagues tried to get her to lay off me or tried to convince me to stand up for myself. I told them I was just happy to have the job, that I was just going to keep my head down and prove myself, but in truth it gave me a raging hard-on.
>> No. 462128 Anonymous
28th December 2023
Thursday 2:58 am
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>>462126
The other trick to get a short call was "I've put money in but it's gone straight though". Usually got you enough time to tell someone where you were.
>> No. 462134 Anonymous
28th December 2023
Thursday 5:58 pm
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Chucked some frozen dill into my mushroom stroganoff, not sure how it will turn out.
>> No. 462136 Anonymous
28th December 2023
Thursday 7:07 pm
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>>462125
There are lots of black women on TV nowadays, but there's only one with such an unbearably grating Mancunian accent that she can also tick the class-war identity politics box. Alex Scott doesn't sound kitchen-sink enough. Judi Love and Alison Hammond are the same person. Alesha Dixon is southern. For a certain type of television commissioning editor, only AJ Odudu will O-dodo.
>> No. 462137 Anonymous
28th December 2023
Thursday 7:46 pm
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>>462136

>class-war identity politics

That's an oxymoron. Class is explicitly perpendicular to the grain of the social constructs. Working class is working class regardless of anything else; black gay lesbian doesn't say anything about your material circumstances.

Stop trying to muddy the waters so you and your Tarquin rowing club "look how small my telly is" wanker mates feel less guilty about your privilege. Mancs aren't even getting on telly for working class points, it's just because Manchester has a big media colony so they can run productions cheaper than in That London.

Also bloody hell, anyone else caught in the middle of full on doomsday thunderstorm?
>> No. 462138 Anonymous
28th December 2023
Thursday 8:23 pm
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>>462137
Storm fucked off about 30/40 minutes ago. I've booked off between Christmas and New Year, but the weather has been dreadful.
>> No. 462139 Anonymous
28th December 2023
Thursday 9:38 pm
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>>462137
>That's an oxymoron. Class is explicitly perpendicular to the grain of the social constructs. Working class is working class regardless of anything else; black gay lesbian doesn't say anything about your material circumstances.

Are you seriously saying there's no such thing as working class culture and politics? It's quite a, controversial statement to make.
>> No. 462140 Anonymous
28th December 2023
Thursday 9:45 pm
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>>462139
My use of apostrophe there made me pause. Do you lot tend to write the way you talk, moderate it for online forums or is your written and spoken communication entirely divorced?

I definately find that I will write as if it is how I will talk about something. Which admittedly does impact clarity even if it also makes it a whole lot more personable (sometimes) which does help in the workplace. Americans have even said in the past that they can pick up a strong accent in text I've written so there probably is something there.
>> No. 462141 Anonymous
28th December 2023
Thursday 10:11 pm
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>>462137

Class has become idpol. What class does Keir Starmer belong to? Jeremy Corbyn? Jimmy Savile? For most people, the answer has nothing to do with their socioeconomic background and everything to do with signals of tribal allegiance. The son of a toolmaker can be posh and the privately-educated son of a stockbroker can be a man of the people, because brainworms.
>> No. 462142 Anonymous
28th December 2023
Thursday 10:52 pm
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>>462139

There's distinctuons of culture and politics within the classes, sure, but it's not identity politics, in the specific meaning of the politics of identity. You know those are different things and you are only playing games with semantics if you try and "ah but" it. The only time people seriously try and conflate class with identity politics tropes is when they are makinga bad faith attempt to blur the line between the two, usually to the ends of supporting variously right wing agendas.

And most people who peddle identity politics whatsoever, even the wokey woke "ban statues" PC brigade, are fundamentally right wing, wether they even realise it themselves or not.
>> No. 462143 Anonymous
28th December 2023
Thursday 10:53 pm
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>>462141

You are stupid.
>> No. 462144 Anonymous
28th December 2023
Thursday 11:04 pm
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>>462142

https://bsa.natcen.ac.uk/media/39094/bsa33_social-class_v5.pdf
>> No. 462145 Anonymous
28th December 2023
Thursday 11:11 pm
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>>462144

>identify themselves

And this is the nonsense I'm talking about. You don't self-identify as a social class, you just inherently are. Jacob Rees Mogg can say he's working class if he wants, but he isn't, is he.

To be working class isn't a social construct, it's a real and material factor in your life that will influence your path in life whether you like it or not. Race and gender used to be one of those, but they're really not any more. Sexuality has never been that, no matter what they try and say.

Class still is and always will be more important and more fundamental than any of the others, because it's the only one that overlaps with all of them.
>> No. 462146 Anonymous
28th December 2023
Thursday 11:13 pm
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>There's distinctuons of culture and politics within the classes, sure, but it's not identity politics, in the specific meaning of the politics of identity.

I'll stop you on this sentence. Think about it, you accept that politics, the big term, is influenced by class but then go out to say a subset of politics (one's politics of identity) isn't politics. I don't think you're trying to argue from a right-wing libertarian standpoint so I can only assume you're missing that the entire socialist movement and the mobilisation of the working class (including one-nation Tory) has been explicitly tied to working class identity. I'd even recommend reading EP Thompson if you've got Christmas reading time remaining.

Remove working class identity in this country and instead revert to a strictly materialist position - now what exactly binds different categories of professions together? How do you build cohesion within an economic class without this when it's so much more natural (indeed encouraged) for working class professions to despise one-another? The whole thing becomes an impossibility and especially so when facing the cohesion of a landed upper class who traditionally operate more like a caste system and when they do fight will resort to the idpol of nationalism to make the working class do the fighting with their opposites.
>> No. 462147 Anonymous
28th December 2023
Thursday 11:22 pm
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>>462145
I don't understand what you're getting caught on with this. The material position absolutely can create the cultural identity and that in turn absolutely will shape your own sense of identity.

To put it another way if you won the lottery tomorrow but kept working in the pit would you stop being a coal miner? No.
What if you kept associating with your traditional northern mining community and the people you grew up with, would you still identify more with a stockbroker in London? No.

Contrary to the old joke, there isn't a mental switch in your head that gives you an Etonian accent once you have a certain imaginary number you hit and it won't radically change your politics unless you're operating from a pure position of calculated self-interest, which people don't do.
>> No. 462148 Anonymous
29th December 2023
Friday 12:21 am
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>>462146

Does class consciousness have any meaningful influence on contemporary politics in practice? When a majority of managers call themselves working class and a significant minority of unskilled labourers call themselves middle class, how can we even usefully discuss the nature of class relations? What would Marx make of a retired plasterer with a couple of buy-to-let flats?
>> No. 462149 Anonymous
29th December 2023
Friday 12:32 am
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>>462146

The coherent analysis of class, and the consciousness of one's relation to it, is vital because without it we devolve to the kind of stunted, self contradictory "temporarily embarrassed millionaire" type of perception you see in Yanks.

The important part is that it's not merely tribal, superficial, but based in shared common interest. This is where you can draw the line between class and race- You can make arguments that they are both inherent, immutable characteristics, a black person can't become white any more than a working class can shake off their roots, no matter how much they perfect their RP accent and study proper dinner party etiquette. But the truth is the cultural aspects of black or Asian or whatever identity that people "bond" over are totally superficial, they don't align around that group's shared self interest.

Again, look at American politics. The "black vote" or the "hispanic vote" or whatever has never acheived anything, because believing your primary defining aspect in relation to the structures of power is the colour of your skin is ultimately a false consciousness.

This is where the line between class and identity politics is vital. Identity politics is false consciousness. It leads people to group together around things that don't actually bind them by shared interest at all. They lose track of their actual status, they start talking about things like "the squeezed middle", and they start to think that because they bought their council house under Right to Buy in the early 90s that they're positive demonstrations of our meritocracy.

>>462147

I'm not getting stuck on that, you're getting stuck on what I mean by identity politics.
>> No. 462150 Anonymous
29th December 2023
Friday 1:12 am
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>>462140
I talk properly and I write properly. Both are fairly incoherent sometimes, but I have never felt any need to moderate my language here. If this site really does only have three posters, then certainly one of them posts with an accent, and I think several people in real life post here with an accent. It sounds like a preposterous affectation to me, like if someone posted that "man's bare finna wet up blud" and pretended this was a normal way to communicate, but I think most of us here have typed like total bellends at least once or twice in our posts. All I can do is privately hope that our resident four Yorkshiremen fly into a rage when I post too.
>> No. 462151 Anonymous
29th December 2023
Friday 1:41 am
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>>462140
>I definately find that I will write as if it is how I will talk
Same, though at the detriment to the quality of britfa.gs postings. I feel it's necessary to inject some deserperately needed entertaining character to my otherwise ill-informed and poorly structured posts.
>> No. 462152 Anonymous
29th December 2023
Friday 2:02 am
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>>462148
In a way it's the proof of concept. The political units have been created and they have relation to specific material conditions whether or not the individual objectively experiences them. It's also telling that they're sticky against changing material circumstances like a professions relative wage and status and an enormous amount of air being spent arguing against it even as inter-generational class divides grow.

>What would Marx make of a retired plasterer with a couple of buy-to-let flats?

He'd tut and stroke his beard menacingly at the petit bourgeoisie who still naively idolise the haute bourgeoisie. Probably, as any anarchist worth his salt will tell you, also mad at how he cherishes his freedom as an independent labourer.

>>462149
>The coherent analysis of class, and the consciousness of one's relation to it, is vital because without it we devolve to the kind of stunted, self contradictory "temporarily embarrassed millionaire" type of perception you see in Yanks.

You mean a collective unconsciousness from the working class. What with Americans identifying themselves as middle class and digging themselves into debt in adoration of the Joneses. That is not a new phenomenon and indeed is arguably the default state. It is precisely illustrative of how class is an identity politics.

>The important part is that it's not merely tribal, superficial, but based in shared common interest.

You keep falling into the construction of a mythical rational man who in any kind of grouping won't advance the common interest of the group, which may at times conflict with their own and that the group may vote for turkey for Christmas. The working class find common cause, their common interest, in holding their working class identity above other loyalties and in absorbing others into the big tent. This is what allows working class consciousness it's power and allows radically different professions and even women to collaborate. It is also why class can still resonate despite the nature class having changed since the days of the Paris Commune.

>Again, look at American politics. The "black vote" or the "hispanic vote" or whatever has never acheived anything

Ah, so I think we're all getting a picture at what drives this dogmatic focus on materialist strawmen that is more reminiscent of the libertarianism.

No, both the Black and Hispanic vote have quite obviously changed the rhetoric of US politics and both will be courted over the coming election. They will both naturally intersect with class dynamics just as working class whites became a voice supporting the black equality movement (and others against) but members will naturally have different views just as will exist in any working class organisation, as even a Leninist interpretation will recognise.
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29th December 2023
Friday 2:06 am
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>>462152
Oh and, >>462149, what you mean by identity politics is apparently whatever you don't like. Working class identity is a quintessential example of identity politics, you can't come in and say "no it's not like that" to systematically invalidate any kind of identity but what you proscribe as legitimate.
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29th December 2023
Friday 7:23 am
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You're just talking past one another. "Working class" in the sense of whether you have to work for a wage (or a wage below a given level) is not an identity, it's an objective fact of how you work. "Working class" in the sense of whether you consider yourself (or are considered to be) working class is an identity.
Someone who works at Tesco and thinks they're not working class because they did a degree in international relations is working class in sense 1 but not 2, and the buy-to-let landlord is working class in sense 2 but not 1.
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29th December 2023
Friday 9:32 am
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Fucking hell. Not class. Not again.
>> No. 462157 Anonymous
29th December 2023
Friday 11:26 am
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>>462155

>"Working class" in the sense of whether you have to work for a wage (or a wage below a given level) is not an identity, it's an objective fact of how you work. "Working class" in the sense of whether you consider yourself (or are considered to be) working class is an identity.

Having mulled it over I think this proves the original assertion of "people only ever attempt to conflate them to muddy the waters" would appear to have been true.

Class lad is explicitly talking about the need to distinguish the former from the latter, but identity lad refuses to acknowledge there's a distinction at all.
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29th December 2023
Friday 11:58 am
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Moaty.
>> No. 462160 Anonymous
29th December 2023
Friday 2:00 pm
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I got two lovely looking sirloin steaks with the idea in mind to make a fancy dinner for the lassie I'll be having round over new year. But the more I think about it, the more I just feel like saving them for myself.
>> No. 462163 Anonymous
29th December 2023
Friday 3:52 pm
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I've had chippy for the first time in months. I feel so greasy now.
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29th December 2023
Friday 7:09 pm
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>>462163

My local chippy used to be good, but they changed owners a few months ago and now they're shite. It broke my heart a little bit. I just don't understand how it's possible to fuck up making chips that badly.
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29th December 2023
Friday 8:12 pm
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