How have we not had a thread about this chap yet? Is it really just because of that one guy on /lab/ getting touchy about it? Or the Prince Andrew connection? The conspiracy behind the conspiracy is always the real killer.
I mean, he's "dead" now so it's not even like we need to worry about libel or whatever.
Let me give you my three theories in order from most plausible to least plausible:
1. The "well-meaning individuals" who are desperate to see a connection to Mossad have spoiled the fun for everyone. Are there a lot of circumstantial connections? Yes. Might investigating it lead to uncovering more shit in the same vein? Yes. Is child sex-trafficking something that was made up by "da joos" and wouldn't otherwise exist? Obviously not. This would have gotten more attention if not for those guys ruining everything.
2. Many/most billionaires are doing what this guy did or something so close to it to be functionally the same thing. Maybe they only have "barely" 18-year-old masseuses in the white countries but even that is just wishful thinking tbh. Outside of the west this would have barely made the news and even within the west a man in his 50s doing exactly the same thing with vulnerable 19-year-olds would have just been "business as usual" for the powers that be.
>2. Many/most billionaires are doing what this guy did or something so close to it to be functionally the same thing. Maybe they only have "barely" 18-year-old masseuses in the white countries but even that is just wishful thinking tbh. Outside of the west this would have barely made the news and even within the west a man in his 50s doing exactly the same thing with vulnerable 19-year-olds would have just been "business as usual" for the powers that be.
Older men taking advantage of their wealth and power to prey on younger women is of course pretty common.
However it seem's pretty obvious that this was a blackmail operation. Most rich men don't have private islands (with fucking temples) that they fly other rich and and influential men to. Or maybe they do. I'm neither rich or powerful enough to know.
It would seem pretty obvious to me that he's spooky as all fuck. Not sure why you're dismissing the mossad connection, obviously there's no concrete proof and maybe he was just CIA (not sure there's a meaningful distinction in the sorts of circles he was moving). Maxwell seems to be the main line of connection for that shit, not to get into the connections with the Bronfman family and the mega group and all that shady shit.
So yeah fuck knows, obviously no concrete evidence is ever gonna come to light with our or at least my lifetime. But it would seem pretty obvious to me that he had connections to intelligence services.
Not really sure why you appear to be downplaying his actions in point number 2 but whatever.
Why's it not been discussed on here? Fuck knows, I'd imagine most lads on here browse the other place and probably got their fix on there. Or maybe this place is spooky as well, wouldn't be surprised.
>>4948 >Older men taking advantage of their wealth and power to prey on younger women is of course pretty common.
You're right, but... so was sexually assaulting grown women in the workplace until less than 5 years ago.
>However it seem's pretty obvious that this was a blackmail operation. Most rich men don't have private islands (with fucking temples) that they fly other rich and and influential men to. Or maybe they do. I'm neither rich or powerful enough to know.
This is the key right here. Most rich men don't have private islands but most billionaires do (remember its only a couple of hundred people). At this kind of level the word "rich" is almost a camouflage by itself. A way for the Epsteins of this world to hide behind your nan saving most of her wages and paying off her mortgage. Both are "rich" but are they "the same"?
>Not sure why you're dismissing the mossad connection
I really, really don't mean to. But you can just smell on the air whenever this is discussed that a lot of people are ONLY in because of the mossad connection. It gets old, especially when half of them leave the moment it turns out someone who isn't Jewish was living in a mansion getting rub-downs from underage girls like the president.
>Not really sure why you appear to be downplaying his actions in point number 2 but whatever.
I get why it might seem like that but my intention was more to draw attention to the immorality of even non-Epstein billionaires rather than to actually defend Epstein. I totally understand why it might not come across that way or why I should maybe think a bit more before opening my mouth on this particular topic but it is what it is.
>so was sexually assaulting grown women in the workplace until less than 5 years ago
I've got bad news for you mate. #metoo didn't change a fucking thing for regular women, and as we're seeing clearly demonstrated with Biden, it was only ever a political weapon to begin with.
>dismissing something that might be significant because you don't want to go near the J word in case you attract that crowd and all the baggage it comes with
Do you not think that's exactly what The Epshteen Lot want?
>my intention was more to draw attention to the immorality of even non-Epstein billionaires
In the traditional parlance of this board, Epstein is an iceberg tip.
>>4947 >vulnerable 19-year-olds
It wasn't the 19-year-olds that were the issue, they're adults. It was the 11-year-olds to that he flew out to his island (or flew around the place, at any rate) that were the issue.
I do find the official explanation for his death a bit curious, really - it stretches credulity so far past breaking point that you have to wonder, if it was assassination, why did they make it so brazen?
I'm fairly sure that there was some discussion on this case here, by the way. It might have taken place inside a weekend thread or whatever but we talked about it.
TBH I'd let Westwood have a go on my arse just for the anecdote. I wonder if he has his engineer present throughout the act to play explosion sound effects when he climaxes.
I remember it being mentioned but there's not many solid facts to discuss. Spain had a similar scandal at the same time with top politicians going to South America to abuse children but it came to nought because you need hard proof. Same happened with Jimmy until he was dead.
Plus, the memes ran it into the ground. I only came into this thread to share the joke news story:
>NEW YORK—In a tragic occurrence, the footage of Epstein's suicide attempt was found hanging in its cell Friday in an apparent suicide.
>The footage reportedly strung itself up with a strip of cloth, hanged itself from the ceiling, and then shot itself three times in the back of the cassette. Shocked security guards found the footage strung up, saying they would have kept an eye on it but were distracted by large bags of cash handed to them by a mysterious cloaked man.
>"You hate to see this kind of thing, but sometimes, footage just doesn't have the will to live any longer," said Metropolitan Correctional Center Chief of Security Paul Bugs, after pulling up in his new Bentley. "That's the way life goes."
Email westwood@gmail.com and let him know your batty is bare ready for his "shotgun". He'll understand the codewords and you'll get bummed the next time you dare take a middle class ramble through Kennington.