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>> No. 22298 Anonymous
24th March 2018
Saturday 9:07 pm
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I know I'm a bit late to the party but I'm considering getting either a PS4 or an Xbox One. I'm assuming these days there's little difference between the two other than having the odd exclusive title. I've seen a few Xbox One bundles in the region of £150 - £200 so I'll probably go for one of them as they're cheaper than what I've seen for the PS4.

Have I left it too late, as in are the next generation of consoles expected any day now? Also, which games do you lads recommend? I'm a bit out of the loop with gaming.
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>> No. 22299 Anonymous
24th March 2018
Saturday 9:13 pm
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>>22298
Depends on which games you want - there are exclusive titles on both.

Without wishing to start a religious war, PS4 won this round of the console versions - I own two.
>> No. 22300 Anonymous
24th March 2018
Saturday 9:19 pm
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Like >>22299 says it sort of depends on the exclusives. You'll have a good time with either one, but the PS4 is definitely a bit better performance wise. I feel like the Xbone has a more fleshed out marketplace, so you can buy and install a fuck tonne of games, including 360 games. Might be a good way to catch up if you're that out of the loop. Playstation also offers this, but to me it doesn't feel nearly as expansive a library.

Honestly if you're coming at it from a fairly fresh perspective, don't have a tonne of online mates on one platform or the other, just pull up a list of exclusives and see which you fancy. If all else fails, flip a coin - you're not likely to be disappointing with either.

Sorry if that doesn't really help.
>> No. 22301 Anonymous
24th March 2018
Saturday 9:23 pm
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>>22300
>a tonne of online mates on one platform

Yeah this is a useful consideration.
>> No. 22302 Anonymous
24th March 2018
Saturday 9:30 pm
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>>22299>>22300
To be honest, there's not really any specific games I'm looking for. The Xbox ones seem slightly better, but nothing that I'm overly excited about that makes it a clear winner.

The advantage the PS4 has is that I've owned all three previous generations whereas I've never had an Xbox of any kind.

I'm not in a rush, so I might wait until December and get whichever one I see first on HUKD when the likes of Tesco and Asda have reduced their old bundles (usually the previous version of FIFA) to around £100.
>> No. 22303 Anonymous
24th March 2018
Saturday 9:41 pm
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>>22302

>The advantage the PS4 has is that I've owned all three previous generations

This is a reasonable metric, especially considering the controller basically hasn't changed. The Xbox controller is still great and I'm sure you'll get used to it, mind.

One thing I'll say in favour of the Xbox is that it has accidentally become my home media centre just because it does everything in one place in a relatively seamless way. Like you say, whichever is a better deal when you come to buy is probably the best bet. Don't forget the updated versions of each, the PS4 Pro and the Xbox One X - they may be a nice price around then too, and offer a bit more oomph (and 4k)
>> No. 22304 Anonymous
24th March 2018
Saturday 10:07 pm
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Consider buying/building a modest gaming PC for £500 instead. It'll probably be cheaper over the long run considering you're not paying an extra £50 a year to play multiplayer, and the games are much cheaper. I would also argue that amount of worthwhile exclusives for the PC makes the PS4 and Xbox libraries look like a joke.
>> No. 22305 Anonymous
24th March 2018
Saturday 10:14 pm
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>>22304
Crypto mining has made this practically impossible without using second hand parts.
>> No. 22306 Anonymous
24th March 2018
Saturday 10:24 pm
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>>22305
To say nothing of the endless updates, tweaking Windows and device driver bullshit. Sure, the games look much better and there are exclusives, but I like to turn the console on and be playing games about 20 seconds later.
>> No. 22307 Anonymous
24th March 2018
Saturday 10:28 pm
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Can I just politely stop the console vs PC argument here before it starts. I can sense a very tedious avalanche otherwise.
>> No. 22308 Anonymous
24th March 2018
Saturday 10:31 pm
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>>22307
THE OP KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING WHEN HE STARTED THIS.
>> No. 22309 Anonymous
24th March 2018
Saturday 10:38 pm
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>>22308

Tch. Fine.

WHY BUY A DRMBOX FROM MICRO$OFT OR $ONY WHEN YOU CAN BUILD THE WORLD'S BEST GAMING PLATFORM YOURSELF?!
>> No. 22310 Anonymous
24th March 2018
Saturday 10:47 pm
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Crypto has made me consider buying a console for the first time in 10 years. Samsung has completely fucked the RAM market too, because there aren't enough forges to meet demand for the phone and desktop market. Why crypto go away, lads?
>> No. 22311 Anonymous
24th March 2018
Saturday 11:03 pm
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>>22310

I hadn't even realised it got this bad.

I actually have a BNIB 1080 Ti knocking about in the house somewhere (don't ask) - it's literally doubled in value since I bought it. Hilariously for the average shmuck it'd have been a better investment to buy all the parts for a bitcoin rig a year ago then sell them today than it would have been to actually mine with it.
>> No. 22312 Anonymous
24th March 2018
Saturday 11:53 pm
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They're both much of a muchness. The PS4 has a slightly better selection of exclusive titles, but it's nothing major.

Microsoft and Sony have recently released updated versions of their consoles, but the only real difference is beefed up graphics to provide 4k support. They're both committed to supporting their current-gen consoles for the foreseeable future.

If you're out of the loop on games, check out Metacritic. They have aggregated review scores for game reviews. The scores aren't infallible, but the top rated games chart is a good starting point if you want to catch up on the best titles.

http://www.metacritic.com/game

Do bear in mind that on either console, you'll need to pay an annual subscription of about £40 to play online multiplayer games.
>> No. 22313 Anonymous
25th March 2018
Sunday 12:47 am
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>>22312
>Do bear in mind that on either console, you'll need to pay an annual subscription of about £40 to play online multiplayer games.

You wot?
>> No. 22314 Anonymous
25th March 2018
Sunday 12:52 am
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>>22313

Yeah, you have to subscribe to either PSNetwork or Xbox live to play online. You do get a free half-decent game or two a month as part of that subscription on both platforms, which balances it out for me but yeah, you still have to pay them.

Ostensibly it's to pay for the multiplayer hosting needed for online, but....
>> No. 22315 Anonymous
25th March 2018
Sunday 12:59 am
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>>22314
PSnetwork is fine actually. You get a couple of shit games per month, maybe a couple of them per year are good.

Lots of games actually still do multiplayer just fine without it, they just don't shout too loud about it.
>> No. 22316 Anonymous
25th March 2018
Sunday 2:05 am
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>>22315

Xbox live gold is the same, and I've actually got some good games out of it (there's also discounts in the marketplace I believe)

It used to be one Xbone game and one 360 game a month, it appears to have moved to two Xbone games a month now. If you get one game you might have otherwise bought for 30 quid out if the 24 a year, you've broke even anyway.

I seem to remember on the 360 you had to pay for it even to use netflix. Dark times.
>> No. 22317 Anonymous
25th March 2018
Sunday 9:48 am
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>>22316
Another thing you can do on xbox is share one account with two consoles, allowing game library to carry over and effectively making it possible to buy one digital copy of a game for two consoles. Via account transfer and 'home xbox' feature if anyone is interested.

With a bit more effort you can also buy from different regions for cheaper still.

The digital games at full price are extortionate otherwise.
>> No. 22318 Anonymous
25th March 2018
Sunday 10:20 am
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>>22317

>The digital games at full price are extortionate otherwise.

I could never quite work out why they're more expensive than the physical copies. I'm sure there's plenty of valid business reasons, I just don't know what they are.

I'm fully invested in digital games, mind, I think I own about three game disks now and 50+ digital. It just means I have to wait a few months to play things, but that's more than okay.
>> No. 22319 Anonymous
25th March 2018
Sunday 3:16 pm
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>>22318
Charging less for games encourages people to pay less. Literally all it is. Whoever said "digital distribution will pass savings onto the customer" was shot for it, I have no doubt.
>> No. 22320 Anonymous
25th March 2018
Sunday 3:23 pm
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>>22319

Maybe I'm an edge case but if the digital versions were £48 like the physical release copies, I'd probably buy a load more at full price - I might even pre-order, which is their ultimate goal. But as it stands the digital releases are at £54.99. And I don't really want the disk copies so I wait a few months and they end up only getting maybe £30 out of me.

What is that extra 7 quid for?
>> No. 22321 Anonymous
25th March 2018
Sunday 4:45 pm
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I have both, and the PS4 gets a lot more use. Multiplatform games tend to run better on basic PS4 compared to basic Xbox One, and PS4 has a lot more worthwhile exclusives than Xbox One, particularly Japanese games.
>> No. 22322 Anonymous
25th March 2018
Sunday 5:48 pm
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>>22321
I've somehow managed to avoid either without even having to upgrade my rig. My 290X is still chugging away, but it's starting to struggle in recent months and I'm worried about Cyberpunk being able to run at all. The crypto bubble isn't going to pop in time, I don't think.
>> No. 22323 Anonymous
25th March 2018
Sunday 9:15 pm
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>>22304
I have a PC, I suppose I could get something like Steam Link and a couple of wireless controllers but for some reason I don't find it as chilled out as console gaming.
>> No. 22324 Anonymous
25th March 2018
Sunday 11:38 pm
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If you have a 4k telly and want to watch 4k movies, get the Xbox.

If you like the look of the playstation exclusives, get the PS4.

Not really a difference between the two apart from that.

I use them equally but find myself watching more movies/TV on the xbox. It's the only way I can justify dropping all that money on the thing just to find out Halo 5 is shite. Forza is sound though.
>> No. 22325 Anonymous
26th March 2018
Monday 6:54 am
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>>22324

The first gen Xbox one isn't 4k, is it? Only the newer (expensiver) Xbox one X.
>> No. 22326 Anonymous
26th March 2018
Monday 5:31 pm
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Get the PS4 Pro. It's marginally more expensive than the Slim and will get you better performance. In the long run this could mean titles locked at 30fps vs 60fps (as the new God of War title is rumoured). The PS4 exclusives are without a doubt better than the XB1's, and will remain so. Japanese gaming is in a great place irght now. It's got less media bollocks than the XB1, but you wanted a console right?
>> No. 22328 Anonymous
26th March 2018
Monday 7:28 pm
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>>22325
Xbox One S, which is the standard one now, has a 4k Blue Ray drive.
>> No. 22329 Anonymous
26th March 2018
Monday 7:32 pm
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>>22328

Not bad then, considering the price of standalone 4k Blu-ray players.
>> No. 22334 Anonymous
30th March 2018
Friday 11:53 pm
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>>22329
And it's a plenty good enough 4k Player too. You'll only get better in proper top line videophile kit.
>> No. 22392 Anonymous
15th June 2018
Friday 6:50 am
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Is forking out an extra £200/£300 for a PS4 Pro or XBox One X over the standard versions worth it or is it only marginal gains, especially if you don't have a 4K ultra-HD telly?
>> No. 22393 Anonymous
15th June 2018
Friday 6:59 am
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>>22392

I don't think so. The S and PS4 do 4k anyway, 500 quid is getting close to might-as-well-buy-a-gaming-PC price range.
>> No. 22394 Anonymous
15th June 2018
Friday 1:11 pm
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>>22393
I just upgraded my GPU. I didn't realise you can stick a new GPU in a 8.5 year old machine and have it perform at >90th percentile. I thought my CPU would hold it back and be leagues behind current developments, but no. I'm guessing games have become much more multithreaded over that time also.
>> No. 22395 Anonymous
15th June 2018
Friday 1:15 pm
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>>22394

CPU development has been fairly lateral for a number of years now, for technical reasons I'm not clever enough to fully articulate. My laptop's about 8 years old too but the clock speeds aren't that far behind new products.
>> No. 22396 Anonymous
15th June 2018
Friday 1:30 pm
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>>22392
Even if you don't have a 4K telly, if you care about framerates then it might be worth dropping more on a Pro/X. I think a lot of games run at around 30FPS on the standard consoles, but target around 60FPS on the enhanced consoles. Also if you're considering getting a PSVR you probably need the Pro.
>> No. 22397 Anonymous
15th June 2018
Friday 3:21 pm
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>>22394

You would notice an improvement if you upgraded it. But it's not a big enough difference to justify the several hundred quid it costs you in the end for a new board and memory too, compared to the bang for buck you get with a new graphics card.

You will probably get away with keeping that CPU until the next gen of consoles come around, which isn't going to be until the next decade. That's what I plan on doing anyway, and hopefully by then they've invented a VR headset that doesn't make you hurl your guts out too.
>> No. 22436 Anonymous
6th September 2018
Thursday 9:31 pm
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Asda are starting to reduce prices on their old Xbox bundles, including reducing the Xbox X Far Cry 5 bundles to £150 rather than by £150.
>> No. 22437 Anonymous
6th September 2018
Thursday 10:09 pm
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>>22395

I recently paid £800 for a desktop that has the same RAM and roughly the same clock speed as a desktop I bought in 2011 for less than £400 - it does seem to be a lot faster than my old one, though. I can only guess that's down to DDR4 and "more cores innit".
>> No. 22438 Anonymous
6th September 2018
Thursday 10:36 pm
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>>22437

PC hardware has got a lot more expensive over the last couple of years. It's partly the fall in the pound after the breferendum, partly a price-fixing conspiracy between Korean memory manufacturers and partly the huge increase in GPU prices due to Ethereum miners. The Ethereum bubble has burst and the US Department of Justice are suing the Korean RAM cartel, but the pound is probably only going to get weaker.

The biggest single improvement in the real-world performance of PCs has been the introduction of fast SSDs. They're orders of magnitude faster than traditional hard drives, which has a huge impact on boot times and task switching.
>> No. 22439 Anonymous
6th September 2018
Thursday 11:00 pm
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>>22395

Clock speed isn't the most important metric for processor power, it's the architecture that counts. IPC (i.e. how much it can calculate at a given clock speed) increased significantly since the Core series of CPUs were released, although the pace of change has been a lot slower than it was in the past.

The best illustration of this is probably AMD, who were lagging and pretty much a pointless purchase until last year but now with the Zen architecture and Ryzen processors they're closing the gap performance wise with Intel despite their newer processors being clocked lower than some of the old ones.

All that said I bought a Core i5 750 at the end of 2009 and it's still fine for 99% of things. Best value for money PC component I've ever bought.
>> No. 22440 Anonymous
6th September 2018
Thursday 11:43 pm
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>>22436

Bloody hell that's good. I have a first gen Xbone so I'm not really in the market for one, but it's still tempting.
>> No. 22441 Anonymous
7th September 2018
Friday 7:09 am
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>>22440
It was posted on Hot UK Deals on Wednesday evening and I think the majority of the remaining bundles around the country were subsequently snapped up by around midday yesterday. There might be some stored in the lockups where they keep the games; your best bet is to ask someone working there with a scanner to look up item 502775710870 to see if there's any in stock.

They reduced the Xbox One S bundle with Rocket League to £100 so the other discontinued bundles, like last year's FIFA and Forza, should follow shortly.
>> No. 22442 Anonymous
7th September 2018
Friday 10:38 am
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My AMD HD 7950 3GB is starting to chug, especially as I have a 1440 monitor. Any of you two know what would be my best value for money upgrade? I don't mind buying used, or a couple of generations old.
>> No. 22443 Anonymous
7th September 2018
Friday 5:15 pm
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>>22442

What's your budget?

In terms of pure FPS-per-pound, the best option is the GTX 1060 6GB. A 1050 Ti won't be a particularly significant upgrade over your HD 7950. If you want to play current AAA titles at 1440p, a GTX 1070 will probably last you a bit longer. Expect to pay about £240 for a 1060 6GB or £370 for a 1070. Those prices might drop a bit after the release of the 20-series cards on the 20th of September.

I'd be slightly wary of buying a second-hand GPU at the moment. Most of the cards on the market are being sold off by cryptocoin miners, so they will have been running 24/7 for the past year or two. Miners tend to slightly underclock their cards for efficiency reasons, but there's still a reasonable chance that the fan bearings are shagged or the thermal interface material has dried out. That's fixable if you know what you're doing, but you won't be saving a huge amount over the new price and you'll be getting a card that has had a hard life.
>> No. 22444 Anonymous
10th September 2018
Monday 4:08 am
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>>22442

You can get a R9 580 8gb new for £270 and not even have to upgrade your drivers. It's a cracking budget card.
>> No. 22445 Anonymous
10th September 2018
Monday 8:52 am
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>>22444

OcUK have the 8gb RX 580 for £240 if you don't mind getting a slightly ugly card. The RX 580 more or less matches the performance of the GTX 1060, although it draws about 10w more at idle and 60w more under load. The 580 is probably a better choice if a) you're primarily a gamer, b) your monitor supports Freesync and c) your PC has decent airflow.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/powercolor-radeon-rx-580-red-dragon-v2-8192mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-18l-pc.html
>> No. 22446 Anonymous
10th September 2018
Monday 9:17 pm
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>>22443
Yeah, in a post-cryptocurrency world I don't think I can ever buy a second-hand graphics card again.
>> No. 22447 Anonymous
11th September 2018
Tuesday 11:33 am
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>>22446
Cheers lads. My phone's just decided to shit the bed, so I'll put it on hold for now, but that OCUK rx580 looks like a decent deal.
>> No. 22449 Anonymous
14th September 2018
Friday 4:21 pm
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One of my workmates has brought a PS4 to work so the night shifts would be a tad less shite.

I can't get used to a gamepad for shit - it's just too alien for me and I get lost in all those buttons and sticks. But I have to admit that whoever had decided to add that little sensor panel to it was at least partially a genius.

Sage for off-topic.
>> No. 22450 Anonymous
15th September 2018
Saturday 12:45 am
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>>22449
It works like a track pad if you tell your computer it's a Xbox controller too. It's actually a very nice gamepad, even if the triggers are a bit small and lacking travel.
>> No. 22482 Anonymous
3rd October 2018
Wednesday 3:52 pm
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>>22450
Also I really appreciate the trigger buttons or whatever they're called. Makes some GTA V missions easier where you need to maintain a certain speed.
>> No. 22534 Anonymous
22nd November 2018
Thursday 1:11 pm
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Black Friday looks like slim pickings. Tesco have an XBox S 1TB dual controller bundle for £159, but it doesn't look like there's any PS4 deals whatsoever.
>> No. 22535 Anonymous
22nd November 2018
Thursday 1:15 pm
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>>22534
SHODAN is doing $5 for lifetime membership, down from $50.
>> No. 22536 Anonymous
22nd November 2018
Thursday 4:07 pm
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>>22534

Apparently Tesco are doing the PS4 with RDR2 for £220. Nowhere near as good a deal as the Xbox One S offer, but it's better than nothing.
>> No. 22537 Anonymous
22nd November 2018
Thursday 4:59 pm
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>>22535
Isn't that the computer from System Shock II?
>> No. 22803 Anonymous
16th April 2019
Tuesday 6:05 pm
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Sony have revealed the first details of the PlayStation 5 today. Is there any point in getting a PS4 now if the PS5 is likely to be out in the next year or so?

https://www.wired.com/story/exclusive-sony-next-gen-console/
>> No. 22804 Anonymous
16th April 2019
Tuesday 6:41 pm
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>>22803

The PS4 is too huge to die overnight, so the question is do you want a console now or would you rather save a few quid and get it later.
>> No. 22805 Anonymous
16th April 2019
Tuesday 6:51 pm
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>>22803
Damn, Todd and Aaron were right.
>> No. 22806 Anonymous
17th April 2019
Wednesday 2:16 am
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>>22803

You should be able to pick up a really cheap second-hand PS4 fairly soon, along with a big library of perfectly good games. If you're not a hardcore gamer, it makes a great deal of sense to deliberately stay behind the curve - you get to play exactly the same games, you just save loads of money if you don't mind waiting a bit.
>> No. 22807 Anonymous
17th April 2019
Wednesday 8:22 am
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Microsoft are launching a digital only version of the XBox One. Presumably they're still looking to kill of the second-hand disc market.
>> No. 22808 Anonymous
17th April 2019
Wednesday 1:18 pm
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>>22807
That's fine, it seems pretty clear that by space year 2030 no one will actually own anything, stuff will just be licensed through a handful of giant conglomerates.

I look forward to submitting my Facebook account to Amazon Prime to see if I've built up enough social credit to lease a couch. That's assuming Disney haven't had me blacklisted for what I said about the new Dumbo.
>> No. 22809 Anonymous
17th April 2019
Wednesday 8:47 pm
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>>22808

>it seems pretty clear that by space year 2030 no one will actually own anything, stuff will just be licensed through a handful of giant conglomerates.

I doubt any of us have ever owned any piece of software in a very long time. It's all licensed.
>> No. 22811 Anonymous
22nd April 2019
Monday 12:29 pm
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>>22807
The argument for this is rather than actually buying digital games, you'll subscribe to the Game Pass service, which to be fair is pretty fucking good.
>> No. 22812 Anonymous
22nd April 2019
Monday 12:59 pm
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>>22809

Speak for yourselves, I've been pirating everything since I was 14. I do exactly what I please with my copy of Photoshop. It'snot exactly a long shot to say that's what's really behind the drive to make all games into some sort of shitty multiplayer "live service" ala Fortnite.

I wonder how exactly they'll squeeze any more blood out of the stone after that- How long before we see full on pay as you go games? I bet western publishers have had a jealous eye on the Korean market for a while now.
>> No. 22814 Anonymous
25th April 2019
Thursday 4:20 pm
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>>22812
What's wrong with Fortnite, by the way?
>> No. 22815 Anonymous
25th April 2019
Thursday 4:26 pm
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>>22814
As someone who has played it a fair bit, my main issue with it is that the aiming accuracy is absolute wank.
>> No. 22816 Anonymous
25th April 2019
Thursday 5:02 pm
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>>22814
I hate to be the kind of reprehensible scum who links to a long YT video and says "watch this", but this is quite worth watching. What are you going to do instead? Spend too hours having a wank?


I don't want to be completely down on Fortnite, as it has reached a level of pop-culture relavence not seen in gaming since Halo 3, but fundementally the way it makes money out of its (very young) players is deeply troubling. Also I don't trust the Chinese.
>> No. 22817 Anonymous
25th April 2019
Thursday 5:55 pm
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>>22816
>fundementally the way it makes money out of its (very young) players is deeply troubling.

Disclosure: I haven't watched the video.

What's deeply troubling about it? If you pay £3.99 for the Battle Pass then you don't need to play it that much to be able to earn enough V-Bucks during the season to purchase a Battle Pass for the following season, which in turn would enable you to earn enough to purchase a Battle Pass for the season after that and so on. They even gave everyone the chance for a free Battle Pass at the end of last season because they were shitting the bed over Apex Legends. It's not that much of an outlay for the amount of game time people will get out of it.
>> No. 22818 Anonymous
25th April 2019
Thursday 7:27 pm
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>>22817

The battle pass is just the start. The business is built on cosmetics which cost a lot more and their actual in game store is basically a lucky dip in that you don’t know what’s going to be in it until you log in, so players are forced to make buying decisions then and there or fear missing out being able to get them later.
>> No. 22819 Anonymous
25th April 2019
Thursday 8:25 pm
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>>22817

Tere's a lot of cynically deployed and deeply, intentionally manipulative mechanics going on with it. On the one hand you can look at it as "well it's not that expensive monthly" but you can also look at it as an insidious entry fee after which they try their level best to milk what they can out of you.

The problem, the actual problem, is that videogames literally make more money than any other form of entertainment media (that's just a concrete fact by now, it's the single most profitable entertainment business right now), and yet it's somehow still not enough. They have to try and wring even more profit out of their business model year on year.

Remember when people thought horse armour DLC was getting cheeky? Remember when online DRM was seen as intrusive? We've just let all those things slide now, and the AAA market is saturated with games people would have recognised as F2P app-store garbage ten years ago. If you don't already think it's getting bad yet, how much further are you prepared to let them push it?
>> No. 22820 Anonymous
25th April 2019
Thursday 8:33 pm
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>>22819
>The problem, the actual problem, is that videogames literally make more money than any other form of entertainment media (that's just a concrete fact by now, it's the single most profitable entertainment business right now), and yet it's somehow still not enough.
Randy Pitchford has to pay for his jailbait porn somehow.
>> No. 22828 Anonymous
8th May 2019
Wednesday 11:35 pm
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>>22819
>how much further are you prepared to let them push it?
What the fuck are you implying here? Some kind of video game armed revolution?
>> No. 22829 Anonymous
8th May 2019
Wednesday 11:47 pm
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>>22812

>Speak for yourselves, I've been pirating everything since I was 14.

So you don't own any of your software either, do you? That doesn't change my point.

Even if you paid for a game or Windows or Photoshop, you don't own it. You hold a license to use it. This has been the case for as long as I've been using computers, and the lack of a physical disk changes nothing about the way software ownership (or lack thereof) works.

As someone who has a steam library with thousands of pounds worth of games I've barely touched or never actually installed, I actually see the appeal in pay as you go games. It doesn't really feel like a heinous corporate control measure, as I'm fully aware that already exists and has done for decades.

For the record Xbox Game Pass seems like the future to me. I regrettably don't have the time to play games all that often, and I did get a bit sick of staring at games I'd paid fifty quid for just gathering dust. Now I can jump in whenever I want at a much lower price point, I don't think a year of Game Pass costs much more than a single new release title.
>> No. 22830 Anonymous
8th May 2019
Wednesday 11:47 pm
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>>22828

Most of the people that do the development groundwork could probably push for that. They really don't get paid much compared to the money the companies are raking in.
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8th May 2019
Wednesday 11:52 pm
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>>22819

You seem angry that video games are becoming more affordable and accessible. Did you really think the £60 AAA disc release was the optimal, fairest solution to gaming?

I'm not a fan of micro-transactions and will pretty much avoid any game that has made them integral to the experience - I will never play Shadow of War, even though they've 'fixed' that now, but you know what, that's okay, because I also now get to pay six quid a month to access an increasingly impressive digital game library.

I will be annoyed if the prices of digital releases don't drop in the next few years, mind. I'd much rather every single game in the world had a cosmetic loot crate system in it if it actually subsidised the sticker price of the game, but as it stands it's still slightly more expensive to download a game than it is to get the disc, which is all sorts of daft. I do have hope the shift towards disc free consoles will herald a more 'steam sale' approach to the digital console marketplaces. Time will tell.
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9th May 2019
Thursday 4:03 am
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>>22831

They're still adding microtransactions to £60 AAA titles. They're selling £100 premium versions of those games, because loads of content has been carved off as day-one DLC and £60 doesn't get you the full game. The whole industry has gone fucking mental.
>> No. 22833 Anonymous
9th May 2019
Thursday 1:16 pm
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>>22828

No lad. Just pirate it instead of paying. Were fortunate enough to live in an age where you can have your cake and eat it- You can vote with your wallet and still have the game. If you pretend that that's somehow morally wrong then you're either sheltered, naive, or both.

Videogames make silly money. If we want them to improve the only way to do it is to stop incentivising the greed by buying into it. You're not going to be putting some poor starving Dev out of a job- There's a separate discussion to be had there about unionisation for developers and rebalancing the role of publishers and executives etc.

Indie games gave us a brief hope but they're really just AAA lite by this point. Support small devs. Think of it like you would the music industry- You support the bands you like by buying their shit and going to gigs, but they make fuck all off your Spotify subscription so you literally might as well pirate it. The only benefit you get from that is the moral high ground.
>> No. 22834 Anonymous
9th May 2019
Thursday 5:14 pm
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>>22833
I mean on this theme
>Did you really think the £60 AAA disc release was the optimal, fairest solution to gaming?
I'd have to answer yes. If your disposable income is near zero, £10 is as inaccessible as £60. If the whole game is on one disk, you get a pretty equitable breakdown where people who could afford to pay usually did, and people who couldn't would pirate. It's something I've always appreciated about games as a hobby in a way - other than the hardware costs there was a sort of equality about it all that you don't find in a lot of other hobbies.

There's perhaps an argument that it's not sustainable but I'm increasingly coming to the view that most of the best games have already been made.
>> No. 22835 Anonymous
9th May 2019
Thursday 5:25 pm
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>>22834

There was always preowned, too. The live service/digital distribution model conveniently kills that dead.

I can only see it as entitlement on the part of the publishers. They were already making plenty of money but they see it as their right to make even more money, year after year, forever. Not just in games, to be fair, but other digital software. We've lost the inherently democratic nature of a product being something you buy and subsequently own, and can do as you see fit with. It baffles me really that people are just fine with it.

In our hellish dystopia of a future, you're going to have to pay a subscription for the DRM on your Google Mind, and every time they release a patch you'll go blind until they reboot the servers. This is how it starts.
>> No. 22876 Anonymous
10th June 2019
Monday 7:10 am
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I've seen bundles for the digital only XBox One for £160 (Sea of Thieves, Minecraft and Forza) so it mustn't be selling well. I think the PlayStation Classic has now dipped below £25.
>> No. 22877 Anonymous
10th June 2019
Monday 10:07 am
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New Xbox confirmed for end of 2020. Hyped up to be many times more powerful than One X, big focus on backwards compatibility too. Wonder how much it's going to cost, reckon it's not going to be cheap.
>> No. 22878 Anonymous
10th June 2019
Monday 10:29 am
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>>22877

I thin MS are trying to make a big pivot towards the PC end of the market. Their console is essentially going to be a midrange PC and all their games are cross platform with PC.

Makes a lot of sense really. God knows why they've been competing with themselves all these years. That leaves Sony free to cater to the more "core" console gamers, and Nintendo free to cater to the sort of people who buy iPhones because they don't understand Android.
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10th June 2019
Monday 10:54 am
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>>22878

I was going to say something similar, but more along the lines of why I think it won't work - if the next Xbox is just a premium priced midrange PC, then won't people just go and buy a better, actual PC for the same money? You can build (and people do sell) small form factor gaming PCs for about £400, so the new Xbox would have to either be making a loss, or not as powerful as they'd like. I know they've got AMD onside and they're about to pull ahead in the CPU power game, but still.
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10th June 2019
Monday 1:09 pm
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>>22879

Probably doesn't really matter. The hardware is never the main profit driver, as I understand it. Sony have nearly always sold consoles at a loss- They're an electronics giant with a gaming wing. Microsoft's bread and butter is software and licensing, the 360 was an anomaly compared to their usual success with hardware. The more they integrate it, the less likely they are to have another failed console on their hands to explain to shareholders, it's just another moderately successful product ticking along alongside their Surface computers.

I reckon we'll see them blur the line more and more as time goes on. Like Epic, they appear to have woken up and realised that, despite years of neglect from the big publishers and all that "hurr piracy" rhetoric, Steam has been sat quietly printing a big fuck off pile of money this whole time. They want in on that.
>> No. 22881 Anonymous
10th June 2019
Monday 1:27 pm
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>>22879

The quality of the experience matters. The most compelling reason not to own a PS4 was "if you don't play very often, you'll spend half your time waiting for system updates to download". PC gaming is far worse in that respect - there are all sorts of annoyances and booby-traps that nerds don't really notice but are a complete dealbreaker for normal human beings.

MS could do quite well with a new Xbox that offers a PC-level gaming experience with a minimum of fuss.
>> No. 22882 Anonymous
10th June 2019
Monday 2:22 pm
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>>22881

I'm not sure this has been true for a while now. I'm certainly a nerd, but I'm one with limited time on his hands, and still notice the annoyances of PC gaming when they come up, but they come up increasingly rarely, especially when we're thinking of it in terms of pure Microsoft services. Hardware compatibility issues are incredibly rare, especially for midrange components and gaming accessories - I haven't had to install a driver for about eight years for a PC component or controller etc.

A gaming PC you buy from Argos with Windows 10 on it is definintely as plug and play as an xbox, particularly if you've owned an xbox before - you can literally type 'games' into your search bar on your desktop, log in to your Xbox live account and start playing something via the microsoft store. And with the newly launched Game Pass for PC, it's all just there.

Yes, there's updates and so on, but they're all as automatic (and as frequent) as the xbone. Perhaps I'm still not capable of imagining someone young enough to be into gaming but old enough to not know how to use Windows 10, and it seems like MS know these people exist too by the sounds of it.

I'd not be entirely against a £500 Xbox (or whatever) to replace my aging PC - despite being fully technically and financially capable of building a high end rig, or even probably a better one for the same price, those days are probably behind me. My PC cost a couple of grand to build in 2015 or whatever and is still more than decent, but with an i7 4790k in there and only ddr3, I can imagine a Project Scarlett with more power or at least better performance to replace it for a Reasonable Amount of Money, and I'd probably buy it.
>> No. 22883 Anonymous
10th June 2019
Monday 3:33 pm
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>>22882

Middle-aged men are now the key market for the gaming industry. They grew up with games, they have plenty of disposable income, but they don't necessarily have the time or the inclination to do even the smallest amount of pissing about. They might only have a couple of hours a week when they've got the big telly to themselves and they're perfectly happy to pay for convenience.

The traditional market of kids and young adults has no real room to grow and is now dominated by a handful of time-sink titles - Fortnite, Apex, Minecraft, Fifa etc. It has descended into a zero-sum game and everyone knows it - there's still plenty of money to be made, but everyone is fighting harder and harder over the same pool of money. The Wii meaningfully expanded the market for gaming, but it just didn't have any staying power.

The new Xbox might find itself uncomfortably squeezed between the PC and Google Stadia. The hardcore gamers are migrating towards PC, because it offers a fundamentally better experience if you spend a lot of time gaming. Stadia offers an incredibly compelling proposition to serious but time-poor gamers - plug a tiny dongle into your telly, pay a tenner a month and get instant on-demand gaming with absolutely zero faff. If Microsoft have big expectations for the new Xbox, it'll need to be vastly more convenient than a PC and offer a substantially better gaming experience than Stadia.

https://store.google.com/product/stadia_founders_edition
>> No. 22884 Anonymous
10th June 2019
Monday 3:44 pm
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>>22883
The problem with Stadia is that it's a platform built for a city with fibre and a plan with no fair use policy. That combo represents less than 5% of the population of America, nevermind the rest of the world or our Victorian infrastructure.
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10th June 2019
Monday 6:10 pm
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>>22884

To be fair almost anywhere in the world has better internet infrastructure than the States with their state-wide monopolies and so on.

I see Google making the same old mistakes other young and disproportionately successful tech companies have made before them. All their ideas are factastic if you live and work entirely in a tech-savvy, forward thinking city like San Francisco, but they're less than useless and even an active hindrance when you live in buttfuck nowhere and cable TV is still seen as something of a luxury. They're going to get over-confident, push something unproven, and take a big dent for it.

But yeah, with regards to Microsoft I think they're simply taking the first steps in a direction people have predicted for a long while. The traditional consoles are going to increasingly overlap with PCs, while the new consoles for the casual gamer who wants literal "turn on, press start" simplicity will increasingly drift towards streaming/subscription.

We've already seen the performance arms race slow down a lot over the last couple of generations, thanks to parity across the consoles. We're already at a point where really, when you really boil it down, the only component that matters is your GPU. The consumer will benefit from better price/performance ratios, and need to upgrade less often. But we're very likely to see the customisation potential decrease. I wouldn't be surprised to see a PC gaming market in 10 years time where your graphics card is essentially a console you shove in a PCI-E slot and bingo, you're PC gaming.
>> No. 22886 Anonymous
10th June 2019
Monday 6:20 pm
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>>22885
https://www.speedtest.net/global-index
>> No. 22887 Anonymous
10th June 2019
Monday 6:21 pm
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>>22885

>they're less than useless and even an active hindrance when you live in buttfuck nowhere and cable TV is still seen as something of a luxury.

Those people are broke, so no-one cares what they think. They might as well be farmyard animals. By 2119, there'll be a thousand people in Patagonia gilets designing luxury space yachts for each other, while the rest of us forlornly nibble on Soylent crumbs and hide from the deathbots.
>> No. 22889 Anonymous
10th June 2019
Monday 6:41 pm
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>>22886

What point are you trying to make? The problem is America's internet varies wildly from dial-up only across whole suburbs, to 1gig super fibre in your swanky city centre high rise, and in many places consumers have effectively zero choice over their package, and therefore no way to avoid peak time throttling etc.

Over here, you might not see average speeds as high, but there's a much better chance you at least get to choose between Virgin or BT, meaning the service you get at least has some incentive not to be completely shit.

>>22887

Except they're not. I've been places in America where the people are disgustingly opulent. The plots their houses are built on will be bigger than most streets over here, but will you fuck get a mobile broadband signal. They'll drive cars that barely make 20MPG but they'll look at your smartphone like you're trying to impress somebody, because they haven't even quite caught on the the standard £40 a month payment plan idea yet.

TL;DR America is wierd.
>> No. 22890 Anonymous
10th June 2019
Monday 7:21 pm
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>>22889
I'm aware America has had those problems and surely still does to one extent or another, but there's no way you can defend the statement "almost anywhere in the world has better internet infrastructure than the States" when they're posting top 10 average speeds.

And who cares if half of America can't buy it? That stills leaves a market much bigger than the entirety of other countries they've deemed worth entering. I also don't think Google is betting even 1% of their success on the likes of Stadia. Game streaming has been on the cards for years and with all their datacentres and fibre they may as well toss their hat in the ring.
>> No. 22892 Anonymous
10th June 2019
Monday 7:33 pm
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>>22890

I can defend it, because my whole point was that average speeds have nothing to do with the average consumer experience. Most Yanks I know have shite internet and constantly moan about it.

With regards to Google I will admit I am just wishfully thinking that they will over-reach and collapse, before they get their slimy corporate hands on the blueprints for actual T-800s and start selling them to hipsters.
>> No. 22893 Anonymous
10th June 2019
Monday 7:40 pm
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>>22892
Most yanks I know have gigabit connections and are constantly raving about it.
>> No. 22894 Anonymous
10th June 2019
Monday 9:07 pm
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>>22893
What about the Yanks you don't know?
>> No. 22895 Anonymous
10th June 2019
Monday 9:52 pm
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>>22894
They have gigabit connections too, but don't rave about them.
>> No. 23055 Anonymous
30th September 2019
Monday 6:31 am
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OP here, finally going to get around to buying a console later this year under the guise of a Christmas present for laddo. His friends all own Xboxes so my current line of thinking is:

• Buy the Xbox One S 1TB bundle with two controllers, FIFA 20 and The Division 2 for £199.
• Trade both games in at CeX for £50 in credit and buy a few games better suited for him, along the lines of Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Monster Hunter: World, Tekken or Overwatch.

https://www.game.co.uk/en/m/1tb-xbox-one-s-with-extra-controller-fifa-20-the-division-2-and-now-tv-2662111
>> No. 23056 Anonymous
30th September 2019
Monday 12:03 pm
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>>23055
Just buy him an N64 and insist you think it's the same thing.
>> No. 23172 Anonymous
28th November 2019
Thursday 8:42 pm
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They're now selling the digital versions of the Xbox One for €99 on Amazon, they're going down massively in price.
>> No. 23173 Anonymous
28th November 2019
Thursday 11:55 pm
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>>23172
what the hell is that? like an emulator to run on your PC?
>> No. 23174 Anonymous
29th November 2019
Friday 2:35 am
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>>23173

An xbox one without a CD drive.
>> No. 23175 Anonymous
29th November 2019
Friday 7:40 am
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>>23173
What the other lad said and also covered off earlier (>>22807). The cheapest deal at the moment seems to be £84 from Very if you buy it on credit.

https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/xbox-one-sall-digital-console-1tb-optional-extras-7999-at-very-new-customers-only-3347326
>> No. 23662 Anonymous
8th May 2020
Friday 9:09 pm
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Is it worth getting the launch models of the upcoming next gen consoles, or is it better to wait a couple of years for a price drop/model revisions/hardware faults to be ironed out?
>> No. 23663 Anonymous
8th May 2020
Friday 9:44 pm
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>>23662
Depends on how much you want to play the new games.
>> No. 23664 Anonymous
8th May 2020
Friday 9:45 pm
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>>23662
Who knows?
>> No. 23665 Anonymous
8th May 2020
Friday 10:38 pm
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>>23662

We don't know what the launch pricing will be, particularly with the volatility of the foreign exchange markets at the moment. Sony have warned of component supply shortages that could push up the price of the PS5, while the new Xbox is effectively just a PC with a Ryzen APU.

Later hardware revisions will inevitably be cheaper than the launch model, but I think that the Xbox should be reasonably good value at launch.
>> No. 23666 Anonymous
9th May 2020
Saturday 12:03 pm
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>>23663
That’s the thing, Microsoft have stated that in the first year (or so) there would be no Series X exclusives. As such apart from better performing current gen titles and damn fast loading I don’t see any reason to early adopt their new console.
Sony have been playing their cards close to their chest but at this rate I wouldn’t be surprised if the disruption caused by the virus forces their hand to follow suit as their studios just aren’t ready for launch.
>> No. 23667 Anonymous
9th May 2020
Saturday 12:57 pm
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>>23666

>I don’t see any reason to early adopt their new console.

If you don't own a decent gaming PC. The Series X isn't intended to have any exclusives - the idea is that developers can very easily develop a single title that scales across Xbox One, Xbox One X, Xbox Series X and PC. The Series X isn't a replacement for the previous-gen Xboxes, it's just an upgrade. The published specs for the Series X put it in the same ballpark as a Ryzen 6 3600 with a 5600 XT, so you're getting pretty good bang-for-the-buck even if it launches at £500.
>> No. 23824 Anonymous
11th June 2020
Thursday 9:29 pm
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Apparently Lidl have a few digital Xbox Ones left over from Black Friday that they're now flogging for £99 apiece.
>> No. 23825 Anonymous
11th June 2020
Thursday 10:17 pm
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Okay now I want a PS5.
>> No. 23826 Anonymous
11th June 2020
Thursday 10:23 pm
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>>23825
Did they mention pricing?
>> No. 23827 Anonymous
11th June 2020
Thursday 10:31 pm
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Demon's Souls remake is good, new Resi looks interesting, and there's a few other games I'd play but not necessarily go out my way for them. Console looks awful, like one of those fan designs, too spindly. Based on what both parties have shown so far, this might be the first time I favour Xbox in four generations.
>> No. 23828 Anonymous
12th June 2020
Friday 12:10 am
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>>23825
Demon's Souls Remake basically decides my next console.

Slightly surprised that they've kept the first-person angle in RE8, but not complaining, I loved 7. I'd guess this one will be a multiplatform release.

The console design looks a bit like a shit router. I'm concerned about how noisy it'll be, the Pro as been terrible in that regard.
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12th June 2020
Friday 1:15 am
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>>23825
It looks horrid. Give me it in a matte black horizontal version or give me death.

Demon Souls without potato graphics is a big seller though, that's a tasty remaster.
>> No. 23830 Anonymous
12th June 2020
Friday 1:28 am
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>>23825
+15 PSN coins have been deposited in your account.
>> No. 23831 Anonymous
12th June 2020
Friday 2:05 am
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>>23828

>I'm concerned about how noisy it'll be

Very. It has basically the same SoC as the Xbox Series X, but the enclosure is clearly far less optimised for airflow. The design they've shown could only accommodate an axial blower, which is going to have to run at very high RPMs to handle the power dissipation and the fairly choked-off intakes. The Series X is a chonky boi, but at least it can breathe properly.
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12th June 2020
Friday 3:31 am
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>>23831
The comparison graphics I'm lookIng at put the PS5 a third bigger than the Series X and 0.5x bigger than a PS4 Pro, but it's less powerful than the X and will undoubtedly blow like a lawnmower.

This feels like PS3 2.0.
>> No. 23833 Anonymous
12th June 2020
Friday 4:24 pm
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I've always been a bit surprised that there wasn't a bit more of a scene for aftermarket cooling on consoles to keep them quiet. I've got a fatty PS3 with backwards compatibility, one of the properly early models that are all YLoD'ing these days, I've changed out the thermal paste but what it really needs is a different case and cooling system. Same with the PS4 Pro, I eventually figured out a way of keeping its dubiously-designed cooling system well fed in the right places, but if there'd been a PC-like case with a nice quiet fan for under £100 I'd have been all over that.

I am not looking forward to fixing yet another noisy cunt of a Sony console, basically, but one look at that design and you just know it's going to be like that.
>> No. 23834 Anonymous
12th June 2020
Friday 5:18 pm
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>>23833
Completely agree - I had the same problem with my original version PS4 - a noisy bastard that needed regular cleaning. The later models didn't suffer nearly as much.

I spent a good amount of time looking for after market fans, cooling, heatsinks and almost nothing exists. I guess this is because most people never ever think of taking their playstation/xbox apart.
>> No. 23835 Anonymous
12th June 2020
Friday 5:19 pm
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>>23833

I don't want to be one of those "just buy a PC" pricks, but the woes of PS4 owners do slightly boggle my mind. If a console doesn't offer a reliable plug-and-play experience, what's the point of it?
>> No. 23836 Anonymous
12th June 2020
Friday 6:07 pm
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>>23835
The exclusive games, obviously. I also have a decent desktop with a reasonable GPU, but the best Master Race rig in the world can't play Bloodborne (more's the pity).
>> No. 23837 Anonymous
12th June 2020
Friday 6:11 pm
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>>23836

https://www.playstation.com/en-us/explore/playstation-now/ps-now-on-pc/
>> No. 23839 Anonymous
12th June 2020
Friday 9:14 pm
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>>23837
Har har.

PS Now's ok for turn-based games (I played a bit of Disgaea 5 on there), but it's shit for anything real-time. It's a slightly better deal if you've got a PS4 and use the ability to install games locally, but of course they won't let you do that on PC.
>> No. 24243 Anonymous
8th September 2020
Tuesday 1:34 pm
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Microsoft have announced the Xbox Series S will have an RRP of £249. It's less powerful than the Series X so won't be able to play 4K and it won't have a disc drive either.
>> No. 24244 Anonymous
8th September 2020
Tuesday 1:48 pm
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>>24243
What are the deals like on games for consoles? I might have been suckling on Gaben's teat for a decade now, but it's very reasonably priced teat froma company that is pretty trustworthy, as companies that size go. I really don't know if I could have the same faith in Microsoft. As far as I know you basically can't get a refund on anything you buy from their online store, and they run roughshod over my personal computer, I can only imagine the shenanigans they'd get up to with their own hermetically sealed system.
>> No. 24245 Anonymous
8th September 2020
Tuesday 2:12 pm
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>>24244
If you don't mind games a few years old then you can get physical copies fairly cheaply; I've got the likes of Tekken 7, Titanfall 2, Fallout 4, Shadow of War and a few others for less than £4 online. Supermarkets will occasionally reduce stock they want to clear; last month Asda had Assassins Creed Origins for £2.50, Rocket League Collectors Edition for £1, Wolfenstein II for £5, Sekiro for £5, Resident Evil 2 for £8 and quite a few more. At some point Amazon will price match these but they tend to sell out quite quickly.

I haven't ordered much from the Microsoft store itself, off the top of my head I got Castle Crashers for about £2 a while back and Forza Horizon 3 for £6.50 the other week because it's getting delisted at the end of September, but their offers seem to be more misses than hits. Not claimed a refund so not sure what they're like. It's generally cheaper to get digital copies from somewhere like CD Keys.
>> No. 24246 Anonymous
8th September 2020
Tuesday 2:19 pm
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>>24243
Apparently it's a 1440p machine which is honestly impressive for the price. With 4k upscaling, it'll look fine.

Not a chance even the Digital Edition of the PS5 is that cheap.
>> No. 24247 Anonymous
8th September 2020
Tuesday 2:28 pm
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>>24246
I've only just found out Xbox All Access is a thing. I'm assuming they'll do it for the new consoles but at the minute you can get a 1TB Xbox One S with 24 months of Game Pass Ultimate and the option to upgrade for £19.99 per month for 24 months.

https://www.smythstoys.com/shop-xaa

Even if you're not a povvo that's a pretty good deal as you're otherwise still looking at £200 to £250 outright for a console and that's without the Game Pass Ultimate.
>> No. 24248 Anonymous
8th September 2020
Tuesday 3:15 pm
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Oh no I can't count for shit. I've done 12 x £19.99 in my head rather than 24.
>> No. 24249 Anonymous
8th September 2020
Tuesday 5:30 pm
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>>24245
Bear in mind that if you don't like Tekken, Snowden will have some words for you.
>> No. 24250 Anonymous
8th September 2020
Tuesday 5:37 pm
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>>24249

Soul Calibur is better because it's got Tekken people in it and stultifying epicness.
>> No. 24251 Anonymous
8th September 2020
Tuesday 5:47 pm
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>>24249
I think Currys must have accidentally ordered thousands of extra copies of Tekken because they're always trying to flog it. I got it for £5 with Project Cars 2 and 6 months of Spotify premium thrown in.

Also, Hwoarang for life.
>> No. 24252 Anonymous
8th September 2020
Tuesday 7:09 pm
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>>24244
A number of people use a VPN and foreign currency gift cards to buy games on the cheap, particularly from the Microsoft stores in Turkey, Brazil and Hungary.
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9th September 2020
Wednesday 2:19 pm
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>> No. 24254 Anonymous
9th September 2020
Wednesday 5:17 pm
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The Xbox Series X has an RRP of £449 and will be available to pre-order in a couple of weeks.

Through All Access it's £20.99 per month for the Series S for 24 months with 24 months of Game Pass Ultimate. It's £28.99 for the Series X, which would work out as paying £10.25 per month for GPU on top of the console price; you can get three months for £18.59 on CD Keys at the minute but eBay is cheaper.

https://www.xbox.com/en-GB/xbox-all-access

They've also announced today that EA Play will be on Game Pass Ultimate from around November of this year.
>> No. 24255 Anonymous
9th September 2020
Wednesday 5:46 pm
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>>24254
The Series S is tempting, as presumably it plays the entire back catalogue of XBox games just fine? As a PSx owner for life, that is the most tempting proposition.
>> No. 24256 Anonymous
9th September 2020
Wednesday 6:02 pm
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>>24255
>The Series S is tempting, as presumably it plays the entire back catalogue of XBox games just fine?

Not from disc at least.
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12th September 2020
Saturday 4:54 pm
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Apparently Microsoft are selling both the Series X and the Series S at a loss, which is why they're relatively competitively priced. Sony have a big event this coming week where presumably they'll reveal the price.

Either console is out of my reach at present anyway due to being dolescum, but other than a few exclusives and a gimmicky controller, PS5 seems much less appealing.
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12th September 2020
Saturday 6:46 pm
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>>24262
I think it's going to be a while before any games for the Series S/X aren't also available for the One so there's no real rush unless you've got a tip top telly.
>> No. 24316 Anonymous
16th September 2020
Wednesday 9:50 pm
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PS5 out November 19th. £450 for the standard model, £360 for digital only.
>> No. 24317 Anonymous
16th September 2020
Wednesday 10:26 pm
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>>24316
I think it's time to go for the Digital Edition and save the 80 quid. I haven't used a game on disc for years.
>> No. 24318 Anonymous
16th September 2020
Wednesday 10:36 pm
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>>24317

A couple of years ago I would have argued with you, but in the era of PS Plus I'm not sure if discs and the resale market are relevant. My main consideration in choosing a next-gen console would be the quality and range of games in the subscription offering, which shows just how much the gaming market has changed.
>> No. 24319 Anonymous
16th September 2020
Wednesday 10:58 pm
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I didn't realise the Switch was more popular than the Xbox One.
>> No. 24320 Anonymous
16th September 2020
Wednesday 11:10 pm
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>>24319
No joke but Ithink it was the ‘rona wot dun it as people wanted to socialise in Animal Crossing. Utterly insane timing for that to come out.
>> No. 24321 Anonymous
16th September 2020
Wednesday 11:58 pm
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>>24316
There is no conceivable way they are even breaking even here, a massive loss on every Digital Edition sold (which is what most people will buy, because they're fucking identical And it's cheaper).

How are they going to make that up? By gouging you elsewhere. PS+ is gonna go up, controllers will probably gonna be £70-80.
>> No. 24322 Anonymous
17th September 2020
Thursday 12:28 am
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>>24321
They make money on every game, most of us will be buying them from the PS store, it's all good. Microsoft will be doing the same.
>> No. 24323 Anonymous
17th September 2020
Thursday 7:38 am
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>>24321
>controllers will probably gonna be £70-80.

You can pick up a PS5 controller for £50, but the few games listed are retailing at up to £70.

https://www.smythstoys.com/uk/en-gb/video-games-and-tablets/playstation-5/playstation-5-accessories/playstation-5-dualsense™-wireless-controller/p/191489
>> No. 24324 Anonymous
17th September 2020
Thursday 2:20 pm
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>>24321

You don't understand the business model of video game consoles. With few exceptions consoles are sold at a loss. The point is to get a captive audience to lock into buying your games for the better part of a decade over the competitors.
>> No. 24328 Anonymous
17th September 2020
Thursday 7:30 pm
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>>24324
Same with Kindle and to a certain extent iPhones - when you control the only means of getting content onto the devices, you can use the low price of the devices to draw eyeballs/licensing fees on that.
>> No. 24329 Anonymous
17th September 2020
Thursday 7:49 pm
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>>24328
I assumed with the Kindle it's the other way around and they use all of the free books available to entice people to buy one.
>> No. 24330 Anonymous
17th September 2020
Thursday 7:53 pm
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>>24329
No, not at all - if you accidentally break your Kindle for instance, nine times out of ten they just replace it. Most of the free books are either out of print/copyright-free poor edits, or things that wouldn't cover the cost of the postage in paper form. Amazon have always viewed Kindle and books as a gateway drug into the rest of the store - it wasn't like that first, but certainly is now - same for Alexa.
>> No. 24332 Anonymous
17th September 2020
Thursday 8:08 pm
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>>24328
Not at all true of iPhones, which have very high profit margins.

https://mashable.com/2013/10/23/apple-free-software-expensive-hardware/?europe=true
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17th September 2020
Thursday 8:12 pm
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>>24330
I believe it's for this reason that both Kindle and Audible advertising reads specifically call out the Harry Potter series as books that you're not allowed to acknowledge even exist - they're some of the top sellers among sponsorship referrals, and they don't want to be giving them away as free trials if they can help it.
>> No. 24343 Anonymous
17th September 2020
Thursday 9:14 pm
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>>24330

Amazon's entire business model is built around being a gateway drug. They're quite happy to take a loss on pretty much any part of their business as long as it increases their mindshare.

>>24332

You don't get to be the most profitable company in human history by giving away your main product. With that said, Apple are slowly pivoting towards a services-based business model, but not through choice. Phones aren't meaningfully improving, people are holding on to their phones for longer and various lawmakers are trying to stop Apple's planned obsolescence tactics. Apple still make ludicrous margins on their phones, but they aren't selling nearly as many of them.
>> No. 24344 Anonymous
17th September 2020
Thursday 9:15 pm
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>>24328

> Same with Kindle and to a certain extent iPhones - when you control the only means of getting content onto the devices [...]

My current Kindle is from ~2014 and the one before that was the original 3g one from 2010 so I'm not exactly up to date with the latest devices, but at least with the older ones you could just plug them into your computer with a USB cable and copy over whatever PDF/mobi files you'd downloaded from the interwebs / bought on other ebook stores over to it.
>> No. 24346 Anonymous
17th September 2020
Thursday 9:27 pm
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>>24344
My ancient kindle with a physical keyboard died recently, and I can confirm that on the new one (which incidentally feels like cheap, flimsy, low grade plastic shit compared to the old one) I was able to copy my extensive collection of Victorian literature and Linux user manuals in this way without issue.
>> No. 24348 Anonymous
17th September 2020
Thursday 10:25 pm
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>>24332
That article ignores the 30% fee Apple charges on all Appstore and in-app transactions.
>> No. 24349 Anonymous
17th September 2020
Thursday 10:28 pm
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>>24343
>built around being a gateway drug

It's absolutely no secret - Bezos calls it the flywheel.
>> No. 24375 Anonymous
19th September 2020
Saturday 4:11 pm
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>>24348
Point is that they aren’t taking a loss on the initial purchase, unlike the traditional razor and blades strategy.
>> No. 24382 Anonymous
21st September 2020
Monday 2:48 pm
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Microsoft have bought ZeniMax, so they now own Doom, Wolfenstein, The Elder Scrolls, Fallout etc. I wonder if they'll still bring the upcoming games to Sony platforms, or if they'll become Xbox/PC exclusive.
>> No. 24383 Anonymous
21st September 2020
Monday 2:55 pm
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>>24382
How many Xbox exclusives are there? Off the top of my head I can only think of Halo, Forza and Fable. Oh, and Sea of Thieves but I think that flopped.
>> No. 24384 Anonymous
21st September 2020
Monday 3:26 pm
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>>24382
Fuck sake. I wish the Yanks weren't so enthralled to lobbied interests so some of these companies might be broken up or at least prevented from gobbling up everything they can lay their hands on.
>> No. 24385 Anonymous
21st September 2020
Monday 4:10 pm
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>>24383
Microsoft doesn't really do Exclusives, or didn't, because they were the 3rd party exclusive content machine during the PS360 gen. It was in no small part thanks to Sony doing this as well as having lots of decent exclusives (Xbones botched launch notwithstanding) that left them lagging behind 2:1 in sales. I think Microsoft has realised they need more system sellers.

To put this into context, 7.5 billion dollars is more than Sony Corps net profit for 2019/20.
>> No. 24386 Anonymous
21st September 2020
Monday 4:17 pm
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>>24383
Blinx The Time Sweeper. Voodoo Vince. And all of the Rare IPs that aren't owned by Nintendo. Grabbed By The Ghoulies sequel when?
>> No. 24387 Anonymous
21st September 2020
Monday 4:53 pm
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>>24383
>Oh, and Sea of Thieves but I think that flopped.

I really liked the look of that. That and Forza are the only things I've ever wished I had on a PS4, but can't justify a spare Xbox for two games.
>> No. 24388 Anonymous
22nd September 2020
Tuesday 8:23 am
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>>24385
They have so much liquid cash ATM (~$130 Billion) they could buy Sony (market cap ~$30 Billion). Microsoft basically has "Fuck You" money. It's all a bit mental, I think Playstation is still Sony's only profitable tech division. They're limping by on that and their insurance business despite selling 100 million PS4s.

Nintendo has sold half of that in Switches and is worth double that of Sony and video games and toys is all they make. It's baffling how mismanaged Sony Corp as a whole is vs the Playstation division.
>> No. 24389 Anonymous
22nd September 2020
Tuesday 8:44 am
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>>24388
>It's baffling how mismanaged Sony Corp as a whole is vs the Playstation division.

From what I remember of the leaks, Sony Pictures is an absolute shitshow.

I have the feeling Microsoft wouldn't have bought ZeniMax if Sony weren't so against cross platform play.
>> No. 24390 Anonymous
22nd September 2020
Tuesday 10:19 am
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>> No. 24391 Anonymous
22nd September 2020
Tuesday 8:24 pm
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>>24385
The system seller they're counting on is gamepass. Bethesda games available for sale on Playstation, but free on Xbox and PC to gamepass subscribers on release. Makes their platform more attractive, doesn't cut them off from cash from Sony sales, and doesn't incur the tidal wave of bad press and consumer discontent that taking Bethesda games exclusive would.
>> No. 24392 Anonymous
22nd September 2020
Tuesday 9:13 pm
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>>24391
>The system seller they're counting on is gamepass

Agreed - it looks to me like an excellent deal. Sony PS Plus is okay, seems obvious it could be expanded to be similar.
>> No. 24393 Anonymous
22nd September 2020
Tuesday 9:16 pm
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I can kind of see the appeal of getting an Xbox without a disc drive but not for a PlayStation. As far as I'm aware you can buy digital Xbox games from the likes of CDKeys but for the PlayStation there seems to be very few, if any, so you almost certainly have to buy from the official Sony store if you want something.
>> No. 24394 Anonymous
22nd September 2020
Tuesday 9:46 pm
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>>24392

I think that Xbox All Access is going to dominate the next console generation. You're a normal person, you're standing in Currys and you're trying to choose between a PS5 or an Xbox for the kids. Do you pay £400 up front for the PS5 with no games, or do you pay nothing up front and £21/mo for a Series S with hundreds of games?

Us mega-nerds who already own a decent gaming PC might care about the PS5 exclusives, but for the average punter it's a total no-brainer of a value proposition.
>> No. 24395 Anonymous
22nd September 2020
Tuesday 10:49 pm
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>>24393
We just buy everything on the official Sony store - haven't bought a game on disc for years - I know it means we pay extra/full price for the games, but I don't really give that much of a fuck. We have more than one PS4 in the house and it just makes handling that easier than flinging around / managing discs.

>>24394
Agreed - Xbox All Access is a fantastic deal too, though I guess you must have to go through a small amount of grief/credit check when buying, like a mobile phone contract; I guess they won't just give it to everyone which will create some friction. For some reason I can't see Sony selling PS5's on tick like that, but it does seem likely they will have to expand PS Plus to answer it.
>> No. 24396 Anonymous
23rd September 2020
Wednesday 12:31 am
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>>24395

>I guess they won't just give it to everyone which will create some friction

The credit agreement is via Klarna, who provide buy-now-pay-later financing for nearly every major retailer. Almost anyone over 18 with a bank account should be eligible, short of an undischarged bankrupt or a convicted fraudster.
>> No. 24397 Anonymous
23rd September 2020
Wednesday 1:33 am
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>>24394
>You're a normal person, you're standing in Currys and you're trying to choose between a PS5 or an Xbox for the kids. Do you pay £400 up front for the PS5 with no games, or do you pay nothing up front and £21/mo for a Series S with hundreds of games?

As someone whose last consoles were a PS3 and 360, I don't think you're accounting for the generation divide here. It reminds me of those retail debts that dolescum get into for Christmas and the infuriating Microsoft attitude to their systems (Office subs and spyware). Wasn't Xbox the one that had cameras and microphones that didn't switch off?

Admittedly I'm not normal so rather than fork out £400 for a pos console that will depreciate rapidly after Christmas I'd buy my kid/s a desktop. Keep them busy with Minecraft, Five Nights at Freddies and whatever else will keep them away from teen pregnancy and sink hundreds of hours.
>> No. 24398 Anonymous
23rd September 2020
Wednesday 6:48 pm
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>>24397

>It reminds me of those retail debts that dolescum get into for Christmas

My mum says stuff like this but also I had to buy her house off the bank when she couldn't pay off her business loans and credit cards.
>> No. 24399 Anonymous
23rd September 2020
Wednesday 6:56 pm
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>>24397

Sadly, by getting them a desktop PC young, you're getting them into a lifetime of DnD nerdiness, leading to them being a social outcast and bit of a wierdo, leading them to develop a taste for alternative sexual lifestyle choices and depraved kinks.

Don't get your kids a PC unless you want them to end up as the sort of people who transition from emo/goth teenagers into depraved young adult on FetLife is what I'm saying.
>> No. 24400 Anonymous
23rd September 2020
Wednesday 7:29 pm
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>>24399
My son's teacher actually encouraged us to buy a desktop computer because a lot of kids are growing up only using tablets and smartphones so don't know how to use a keyboard or mouse.
>> No. 24401 Anonymous
23rd September 2020
Wednesday 7:39 pm
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>>24399

Where've you been, grandad? DnD is cool now. It's on youtube and they had it on Stranger Things.
>> No. 24402 Anonymous
23rd September 2020
Wednesday 7:39 pm
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>>24400
Fuck sake, I spent my youth helping older relatives with their printers and I'm going to have to do with same with the ones younger than me in about ten years. There is no God.
>> No. 24403 Anonymous
24th September 2020
Thursday 6:09 pm
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>>24402
In my experience young adults are fucking useless when it comes to understanding technology. They'll know how to open an app but beyond that they're pretty much clueless beyond the basics.
>> No. 24404 Anonymous
24th September 2020
Thursday 6:39 pm
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>>24403
We all groan when elderly people ask us for help with the internet, but it really seems like the vast majority of people across all ages have no more than a bare minimum of understanding when it comes to technology.
>> No. 24405 Anonymous
24th September 2020
Thursday 7:31 pm
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>>24404
>the vast majority of people across all ages have no more than a bare minimum of understanding

Even those of us who do technology for a living are making barely educated guesses much of the time. Can confirm that nearly everyone who doesn't do it for a living, is generally a doofus when it comes to this stuff.

I don't know how normal people just go and buy a laptop/phone without any kind of knowledge about it - though I suppose it actually accounts for the huge amounts of fraud, security incidents and disinformation around.
>> No. 24406 Anonymous
25th September 2020
Friday 9:27 am
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>>24404

Keeping people ignorant of technology is in the Corporations' best interests, for many reasons:
- If people don't know what they are getting, specs wise, it's hard for the customer to judge if you are offering good value;
- If anything breaks, the customer has no idea where to even begin attempting repair. If you couple that with devices that are generally manufactured to be disposable/non-user-serviceable and thwart any independent repair efforts by making parts impossible to get hold of, the customer is either forced to spend literally whatever you want to charge at your official repair shop, or simply buy a new one - either way, the money goes to that corp;
- You can disguise how much you are using your users are data farms by framing your anti-consumer and intrusive tracking as friendly "we're doing this to help you :)" bollocks -- see literally everything Windows 10 does;
- You can restrict users' ability to change or upgrade their devices (and it helps if you spread rumours that it's illegal) so they are forced to buy an entirely new one or be stuck without features they want.
>> No. 24407 Anonymous
25th September 2020
Friday 10:30 am
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>>24406
You've been watching too many Louis Rossmann videos.
>> No. 24408 Anonymous
25th September 2020
Friday 1:27 pm
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>>24407
What a weird and hand-wavingly contrarian thing to say.

The rights to repair and user control over their own data have been talking points of the EFF and Richard Stallman for a few decades now and they've only got more relevant with time.
>> No. 24409 Anonymous
25th September 2020
Friday 1:35 pm
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>>24407
I've been donating to the Open Rights Group since before Louis Rossman started making YouTube videos.

Even so, he's not wrong, is he?
>> No. 24410 Anonymous
25th September 2020
Friday 4:29 pm
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More power to both of you, but bringing Rossmann, Stallman and the EFF into a conversation about Playstation/XBox is the very definition of mootness; we can all agree with the philosophy, but I wouldn't want a games console from any of them.
>> No. 24411 Anonymous
25th September 2020
Friday 4:44 pm
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>>24410
I didn't bring any of those names in initially; if you were >>24407, then you did. The conversation had long since left which console to buy, and we were on about technological illiteracy.
>> No. 24430 Anonymous
29th September 2020
Tuesday 7:26 am
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>Supermarkets will occasionally reduce stock they want to clear

Asda have recently reduced:

Battlefield V to £1

https://groceries.asda.com/product/xbox-one-games/xbox-one-battlefield-v/1000073848797

Destiny 2 Forsaken Legendary Collection to £3.

https://groceries.asda.com/product/xbox-one-games/xbox-one-destiny-2-forsaken-legendary-collection/1000090263143

Borderlands 3, Resident Evil 2, Hitman 2 and The Crew 2 to a fiver.

https://groceries.asda.com/product/xbox-one-games/xbox-one-borderlands-3/1000170163592

https://groceries.asda.com/product/xbox-one-games/xbox-one-resident-evil-2/1000122916895

https://groceries.asda.com/product/xbox-one-games/xbox-one-hitman-2/1000092443419

https://groceries.asda.com/product/xbox-one-games/xbox-one-the-crew-2/1000073848719

It'll be highly unlikely you'll find these in stock if you go shopping for them, but don't be surprised if Amazon price match these in the near future.
>> No. 24446 Anonymous
5th October 2020
Monday 4:21 pm
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Has anyone heard about the alleged problems with the new consoles? 4chan /v/ (yes, I know) has been talking about it non-stop. Sony fans are saying the SeX is prone to run at a very high temperature if placed horizontally. Microsoft fans are saying the PS5 is more prone to overheating, and the lack of transparency from Sony suggests they know the console is a dud. I can't tell if these are valid points or if it's just console war shitposting. It's really putting me off the upgrade to next gen.
>> No. 24447 Anonymous
5th October 2020
Monday 4:27 pm
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>>24446
I haven't really seen a compelling reason to upgrade to the next generation from the current one, at least at launch.
>> No. 24448 Anonymous
5th October 2020
Monday 7:05 pm
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>>24446
It's just shitposting.
>> No. 24449 Anonymous
6th October 2020
Tuesday 12:17 am
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>>24446
I am a bit perplexed as to why so close to release, Sony haven't really been all that open about the PS5. MS have sent consoles out to all the major gaming sites etc and allowed testing and hands on stuff.
>> No. 24451 Anonymous
6th October 2020
Tuesday 1:55 am
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>>24449

It's a cultural split. Sony still think they're fighting the console wars, so they want a splashy launch with lots of exclusives. Microsoft have pivoted to games-as-a-service and don't really need or want a huge launch with loads of hype. They don't really care if you go for the Series S, the Series X, stick with your old XBone, build a gaming PC or even stream cloud games to your laptop or phone; the product they're really selling is Game Pass and the hardware is just a means to an end. Being open about the consoles allows them to avoid the common pitfalls of a console launch - unidentified defects, disappointment, supply shortages etc. They know that this generation of consoles won't be all that exciting, so they're focusing on the value proposition.
>> No. 24452 Anonymous
7th October 2020
Wednesday 2:51 pm
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Sony have released a (ludicrously Japanese) teardown of the PS5.



Thoughts:

Oh lawd that is a heckin' chonker.
They've avoided a vapor chamber, but the thermal solution still looks to be far more expensive than the Series X.
They're really going to struggle to ship in volume.
>> No. 24453 Anonymous
7th October 2020
Wednesday 3:08 pm
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>>24452
>Oh lawd that is a heckin' chonker.

Can we not, please?
>> No. 24454 Anonymous
7th October 2020
Wednesday 3:27 pm
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>>24453
See how long you last over at r/DogShowerThoughts.
>> No. 24455 Anonymous
7th October 2020
Wednesday 3:37 pm
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>>24452
>Sony have released a (ludicrously Japanese) teardown of the PS5
This is a reaction to their alienation of the Japanese market, as they're making X the default select option even though that makes no sense historically and culturally in Japan. Since they moved their HQ to California, a spate of censorship in Japanese titles in Japan has caused a lot of Jap gamers to brand them traitors and shift to Steam.

>Oh lawd that is a heckin' chonker
You get one chance.
>> No. 24456 Anonymous
7th October 2020
Wednesday 3:38 pm
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>>24454
Not really a conversation for this thread but I do bemoan the massive negative effect Rudgwick Steam Show has had on both original content generation and forum culture on the internet.
>> No. 24457 Anonymous
7th October 2020
Wednesday 3:49 pm
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I don't know if the whole doggo lingo thing comes from elsewhere or not. I used to work with a woman, must have been in her mid-to-late forties, who would regularly post absolute gibberish about heckin smol pupperinos and boopin the bork on the snort, or whatever the fuck it was, all over Facebook. I don't think she's even heard of Reddit.
>> No. 24458 Anonymous
7th October 2020
Wednesday 3:50 pm
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>>24453>>24455

Fine. The games console equipment is larger than might have been expected, to a degree that is mildly comical. Better?
>> No. 24459 Anonymous
7th October 2020
Wednesday 4:04 pm
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>>24457
I blame tumblr and later Caturday memes running away with the concept. It probably evolved from MySpace 'lol so randum spek' as they do seem pretty similar if you remove the dinosaurs.

Mostly though I just wanted to post a silly comic reminder about how we're old and everyone is going to associate our generation with this.
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7th October 2020
Wednesday 4:16 pm
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>>24457
>>24459

But that's my point, really. Not that Reddit originated hecking puppyreenos or whatever, but that it runs with and will not let things like that die. It really stifles original content in the name of upvotes.
>> No. 24462 Anonymous
7th October 2020
Wednesday 4:25 pm
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>>24460
I think once a subreddit reaches a certain point there's continual reposts, plus the same content will get spammed to numerous large subs by karma farmers. I have definitely noticed that if something gets posted on Reddit it will be posted all over Facebook by 'banter' pages a day or two later.

The only sub I regularly use is r/UKPersonalFinance and that's definitely got its problems but nothing major.
>> No. 24463 Anonymous
7th October 2020
Wednesday 4:25 pm
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Oh yeah, forgot we can't delete posts at the minute.
>> No. 24464 Anonymous
7th October 2020
Wednesday 5:48 pm
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>>24462
I use r/thefighterandthekid and r/LoveForLandlords it's the closest thing to old chan content from the noughties and makes me laugh, they don't really care about offending and some of the OC has made me spit tea everywhere.

The former requires some knowledge of who Brendan Schaub, Bryan Callen and the Joe Rogan crony gang are, but it's worth the 5 mins it takes to become aquatinted with the narcissistic tripe they mock there.
>> No. 24465 Anonymous
7th October 2020
Wednesday 5:52 pm
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>>24464
>r/LoveForLandlords
That subreddit confused me. I thought it was satire, but apparently it is not.
>> No. 24466 Anonymous
7th October 2020
Wednesday 6:48 pm
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>>24465

No, it is, but it's satire sometimes either played so straight or underneath double layer irony that it's hard to tell; to the extent that for a while it sucked in a lot of people who weren't in on the joke, but thought it was fun to make fun of poor people. Thus, validating its own existence in the worst possible way.

As someone who was around from the early days of /b/ and YTMND and other such internet cesspits, I'm sometimes at least a little bit proud of what our generation inspired in the next.

There's a fair few subs I just don't understand, though, to be fair. I really don't get some of the "circlejerk" ones, like r/gamingcirclejerk where the satire seems to be the opposite of what you'd expect it to be, but it's not intentional irony, it's just that the people there are all dickheads. Maybe I'm just too old to get it. I don't know.
>> No. 24467 Anonymous
8th October 2020
Thursday 8:46 pm
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>>24452
I love that video, I wish I knew what he was saying.

And you're right, that is a big console.
>> No. 24468 Anonymous
8th October 2020
Thursday 8:52 pm
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>>24467

>I love that video, I wish I knew what he was saying.

Press c to turn on subtitles.
>> No. 24469 Anonymous
8th October 2020
Thursday 9:39 pm
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>>24452

They really are just PCs now aren't they. If AMD just squeezed one of their CPUs onto the same PCB as one of their graphics cards, that's basically what we'd have.

Still, makes me quite comfortable that I'll be able to get away without upgrading my PC until the middle of decade. I built my last rig about the same time as the PS4 came out, and it was only mid-range back then, even.
>> No. 24470 Anonymous
9th October 2020
Friday 5:52 pm
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I've managed to win a digital copy of Destruction AllStars for the PS5. I have no plans on getting a PS5. What's the best way to sell this on? It's retailing for £65 to £70 at the minute.
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9th October 2020
Friday 5:56 pm
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>>24470

https://www.g2a.com/
>> No. 24511 Anonymous
29th October 2020
Thursday 2:28 am
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I've said it before, but the PS5 really is fucking massive.
>> No. 24512 Anonymous
29th October 2020
Thursday 8:51 am
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>>24511
I think they're both really big compared to the previous generation and it's easy to see why - look at other threads where people discussing cooling, fans, etc.

Volume and heatsinks are one great way of solving that problem without having a load of extra, noisy, troublesome fans. The new XBox is almost 7 litres internal volume, the PS5 just over 10 litres.
>> No. 24513 Anonymous
29th October 2020
Thursday 9:08 am
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>>24511
The plastic of that playstaion looks awfully cheap.
>> No. 24514 Anonymous
29th October 2020
Thursday 10:42 am
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>>24511

The PS5 is such an ugly looking thing. To think they gave us the PSOne, arguably the best looking home console to release.
>> No. 24516 Anonymous
29th October 2020
Thursday 11:14 am
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Nobody cares what they look like. The PS1 was a plasticky piece of shit, I still have one.
>> No. 24517 Anonymous
29th October 2020
Thursday 12:50 pm
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Remember when people used to joke about how huge the original Xbox was?
>> No. 24518 Anonymous
29th October 2020
Thursday 5:44 pm
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>>24516

Both the original Playstation and the smaller one both looked good though.
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29th October 2020
Thursday 6:08 pm
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>>24516

>The PS1 was a plasticky piece of shit, I still have one.

It can't be that plasticky then. Apart from the dodgy laser pick-ups in the early units, it was a fantastically solid and reliable machine.
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29th October 2020
Thursday 8:50 pm
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>>24516
I do. White plastic has a habit of yellowing extremely quickly over time and nothing is really able to prevent it that is practical for a sitting room.

I probably wont buy one for that reason alone, I don't particularly want a giant manky beige box under my TV a few years from now.

They can give me a shout when they release a black model, It'll probably have some games by then too I can sink my teeth into.
>> No. 24523 Anonymous
30th October 2020
Friday 12:13 am
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>>24521
>White plastic has a habit of yellowing extremely quickly over time
That's mainly an ABS thing. I'm not sure what they're making these things out of, but I'd be surprised if they used something that yellows that quickly.
>> No. 24524 Anonymous
30th October 2020
Friday 10:10 am
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>>24523 Painting works OK at a tolerable manufacturing cost, but since all gamers live in dingy hovels with no sunlight, UV yellowing isn't really anything the manufacturers worry about.
>> No. 24532 Anonymous
30th October 2020
Friday 4:44 pm
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Plastics have improved hugely over the past few decades. White plastics still have a tendency to yellow a bit over time but it's barely a problem now compared to how it was in the 80s and 90s.
Yellow PS5s might be something that vintage tech collectors 50 years from now will be worrying about, but it's not really a concern for the usual lifespan of a console.
>> No. 24604 Anonymous
18th December 2020
Friday 9:32 am
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>>24383
>How many Xbox exclusives are there?

Cyberpunk.
>> No. 24605 Anonymous
18th December 2020
Friday 11:19 am
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>>24604
This post aged well.
>> No. 24606 Anonymous
18th December 2020
Friday 4:22 pm
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>>24605
>> No. 24822 Anonymous
26th February 2021
Friday 4:33 pm
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Are Xboxes less reliable than PlayStations? I can't recall having a single issue with my PS1, PS2 and PS3 over an ~18 year time span but in less than a year and a half of having an Xbox One S I've had issues with two controllers and the console itself is playing up a bit.
>> No. 24823 Anonymous
26th February 2021
Friday 7:28 pm
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>>24822
Controllers have built in obsolescence these days and one controller wont do you an entire generation, the analog sticks are only rated for 400 hours of playtime and if you get a Dualsense act up on you the actuator is soldered to the board so you can't replace it without significant experience and specialised equipment. Even the £150 Xbox Series Pro Controller has a 400 hour lifespan.

The consoles are very reliable though, Xbox One/PS4 use the same AMD Jaguar Chips. Try deleting some bloat and updating the System software. You could also try a factory reset.
>> No. 24824 Anonymous
2nd March 2021
Tuesday 9:30 am
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>>24822
Stuff from the 360/PS3 generation onwards seems a lot less reliable. My PS2 and the controllers that came with it still work fine, whereas I've gone through three PS3s and two PS4s.
>> No. 24825 Anonymous
2nd March 2021
Tuesday 2:16 pm
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>>24824
I would guess that's a natural and somewhat unavoidable consequence of the increased power and heat. The relatively underpowered consoles Nintendo has been making post-Gamecube have had substantially lower failure rates than those of Sony and MS.
>> No. 24913 Anonymous
22nd April 2021
Thursday 2:51 pm
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>>24825
I'm hoping the Series X's cooling system staves off hardware failure. If I run a graphically intensive game it gives off a fair amount of heat, but once I quit it it's back to room temperature in minutes. Compared to my PS4 Pro which is hot to the touch even when doing nothing but downloading games, and it retains that heat long after it's turned off.
>> No. 24914 Anonymous
22nd April 2021
Thursday 5:04 pm
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Microsoft have made it so that you don't need Xbox Live Gold for free to play online multiplayer games like Apex Legends, CoD Warzone, Fortnite and Rocket League.

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2021/04/21/online-multiplayer-free-to-play-games-unlocked/
>> No. 24915 Anonymous
22nd April 2021
Thursday 6:05 pm
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>>24914
It's alright, I would never ever buy an Xbox or any other Microsoft console ever again in my entire life so I'm covered.
>> No. 24916 Anonymous
23rd April 2021
Friday 7:05 am
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Curry's have Forza Horizon 3 for £4.97 if anyone wants a physical copy of it; it's probably cheaper than a digital one since it was pulled from the Microsoft store.

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/gaming/console-gaming/games/microsoft-xbox-one-forza-horizon-3-10155168-pdt.html
>> No. 24917 Anonymous
30th April 2021
Friday 7:11 pm
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EE are doing a bolt-on for £10 per month which gives you the Xbox game pass and unlimited mobile data for gaming. I guess this is Microsoft's way of trying to muscle in on the portability of the Switch.

https://ee.co.uk/gaming
>> No. 25016 Anonymous
16th July 2021
Friday 8:19 pm
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How do you lads think Steam's handheld console will fare?
>> No. 25017 Anonymous
16th July 2021
Friday 9:00 pm
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>>25016

It's hard to say, as it's not something I would ever really consider buying - but people seem to fucking love the switch, despite its many apparent flaws, so it'll probably do okay.
>> No. 25018 Anonymous
16th July 2021
Friday 9:52 pm
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>>25016
I'm not sure it's going to do terribly well. Looking at the most played games on Steam many of them wouldn't really work on that kind of device. Even most of the FPS games on there are multiplayer focused and I can't imagine you're going to get on very well with your Sega Game Gear Steam Deck sitting on the train using thumb sticks against little Kylan with his 40,000 DPI mouse and brain full of energy drinks.

Like the Switch my personal opinion is "yeah, it'd be nice to play something like Skyrim bed or the garden", but not nice enough to spend hundreds of quid.
>> No. 25019 Anonymous
16th July 2021
Friday 11:56 pm
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>>25018
Agreed, seems like a luxury device.
>> No. 25020 Anonymous
17th July 2021
Saturday 12:07 am
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>>25016
I think if they are completely honest about it's capabilities, then it has a chance. Wont become a heavy hitter but wont fail either.
>> No. 25021 Anonymous
17th July 2021
Saturday 12:20 am
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>>25018
Could be a blast for emulation? Don't know how it would compare to the Switch, but I hear that its performance is underwhelming.
>> No. 25022 Anonymous
17th July 2021
Saturday 12:36 am
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>>25021
>“We don't think people should be locked into a certain direction or a certain set of software that they can install,” Valve designer Lawrence Yang told IGN. “If you buy a Steam Deck, it's a PC. You can install whatever you want on it, you can attach any peripherals you want to it. Maybe a better way to think about it is that it's a small PC with a controller attached as opposed to a gaming console.”

https://www.ign.com/articles/steam-deck-hands-on-impressions-details-valve-handheld-gaming-pc
>> No. 25023 Anonymous
17th July 2021
Saturday 1:19 am
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>>25019

It's definitely a luxury device, but the same could be said of the Valve Index and they've been flying off the shelves.

Valve's previous efforts at hardware have been underwhelming, but this looks like a capable and well thought out device. GPD have shown that there's a real appetite for this sort of thing, the fact that it's a PC but with tight Steam integration seems like the best of both worlds and the price is quite reasonable given the components involved. I'm rather tempted, but I'd want to know more about the battery life and ergonomics before committing.
>> No. 25024 Anonymous
17th July 2021
Saturday 10:04 am
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Unless you're trying to speedrun eye strain with your bestie, is this an actual use case for anyone? Don't get me wrong if you have a mate who wants to take a pair of giant fighting stick controllers to a cafe with you I'm deeply envious and more power to you both. However, it seems like Valve themselves aren't sure what you're meant to do with their product. It just seems like a lot of money to play AAA single-player games on the go.

>>25021
That's definitely a good idea. It's not something I've done beyond a handful of DS games and perhaps there are other uses I'm not considering, so maybe I'm being too negative about the Deck.
>> No. 25025 Anonymous
17th July 2021
Saturday 12:03 pm
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>>25023
If by luxury simply because it's expensive, yes, but otherwise I wouldn't agree the Index is a luxury. That's a product that you require in order to access a specific medium. I don't think anyone actually needs the Deck.
>> No. 25026 Anonymous
17th July 2021
Saturday 12:04 pm
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>>25024
That's right, it looks fucking retarded.
>> No. 25027 Anonymous
17th July 2021
Saturday 12:29 pm
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It's bloody ugly tbh.

A handheld needs to be sleek and attractive as well as comfortable in the hands. Nintendo are masters of it, despite the often frustrating limitations of their systems, and that combined with the fact they're always relatively affordable means people don't mind dropping a couple hundred quid just to have one laying around for a rainy day. The 3DS really came into it's own in the hands of homebrewers, though, and I expect the same will be true of the Switch.

I can't see anyone thinking the same thing about a clunky handheld PC. I'd rather just get an ultra slim notebook and limit my expectations in terms of what games it will run.
>> No. 25044 Anonymous
28th July 2021
Wednesday 6:39 am
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Has the Nintendo Switch gone up in price? I was looking to get one and it's currently about £275 for the console by itself or £310 if I pre-order the OLED one for October. I could have sworn they weren't much more than £200 last year.
>> No. 25045 Anonymous
28th July 2021
Wednesday 8:52 am
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>>25044
Amazon price trackers show it's currently at the lowest price in history. You might be conflating the Switch and the Switch Lite.
>> No. 25046 Anonymous
28th July 2021
Wednesday 9:08 am
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>>25045
Aldi had them for £230 last Black Friday and I believe Tesco did the same, but I could have sworn that they were cheaper than that before prices shot up due to lockdown anyway.
>> No. 25047 Anonymous
28th July 2021
Wednesday 12:34 pm
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>>25044
I absolutely remember Argos having an offer in April because I budgeted for it. They were immediately out of stock because they'd all been bought up by scalpers and then sold for considerable mark-ups. Same story on Amazon where retailers were sold out and all you could get were scalpers or companies in HK where you'd be waiting for months if it arrives at all.

Then I realised that there's nothing on the Switch I'd want to play that couldn't be bought for my laptop and I have no use for a portable device.
>> No. 25048 Anonymous
28th July 2021
Wednesday 12:38 pm
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>>25046
What is going on here? Why is the mascot for Black Friday a Christmas carrot? Why is L I K E the most important word in that copy?
>> No. 25049 Anonymous
28th July 2021
Wednesday 1:14 pm
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>>25048
I can't explain the LIKE - maybe they're saying you will LIKE their bargains? Pretty pisspoor if so - but Kevin the Carrot has been Aldi's Christmas mascot since 2016, and Black Friday is considered the start of the Christmas shopping season.

https://www.aldi.co.uk/kevin
>> No. 25103 Anonymous
26th August 2021
Thursday 9:55 am
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Laddo has bought a Switch. I forgot how expensive Nintendo games are because they rarely go down in price.
>> No. 25313 Anonymous
19th November 2021
Friday 11:46 am
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Google Stadia Premiere Edition has been reduced from £70 to £20, might be worth it at that price just for the 4K UHD Chromecast.

https://store.google.com/product/stadia_specs?hl=en-GB-store-3827733
>> No. 25314 Anonymous
19th November 2021
Friday 4:24 pm
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>>25313
bits of that make the chromecast look locked down, or I may be missing something?
>> No. 25315 Anonymous
19th November 2021
Friday 5:57 pm
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>>25314

It's a completely standard Chromecast Ultra. They're knocking them out cheap because a) nobody wants Stadia and b) the Chromecast Ultra has been discontinued and replaced with the newer Chromecast with Google TV.
>> No. 25316 Anonymous
19th November 2021
Friday 6:30 pm
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>>25315
Those new Chromecasts with Google TV are pretty good - the interface is zippy and clean, it makes me 7ish year old Sony Bravia seem like a perfectly standard new telly apart from the bezel (which even then is shy of a centimetre, but looks gargantuan compared with modern screens).
>> No. 25317 Anonymous
20th November 2021
Saturday 10:38 am
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>>25313
Bought one despite not having a TV for the chromecast. Annoyingly you can't use the controller wirelessly apart from for Stadia, but I've heard it's still decent, and will probably be a bit better than my wired X360 controller held together with tape. Might give the CC to my sister for christmas.
>> No. 25322 Anonymous
27th November 2021
Saturday 7:10 pm
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>>25317
Despite an estimated arrival time of two days ago, it hasn't even been sent for dispatch yet. I feel like they might not have as many as they sold.
>> No. 25406 Anonymous
18th January 2022
Tuesday 2:57 pm
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Microsoft plans to buy Activision Blizzard for nearly $70bn

Microsoft says it plans to buy major games company Activision Blizzard in a deal worth $68.7bn (£50.57bn). It would be the biggest acquisition in the company's history and is expected to be finalised in 2023.

The move means Microsoft will take ownership of gaming franchises like Call of Duty, Warcraft and Overwatch.

Microsoft claims it will help them grow their gaming business across mobile, PC and consoles along with providing building blocks for the metaverse. This deal is the biggest in gaming history and comes a year after Microsoft bought another influential gaming company Bethesda for $7.5bn.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-60042409

They're not fucking about.
>> No. 25407 Anonymous
18th January 2022
Tuesday 3:11 pm
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>>25406

Games are big money nowadays, right? Doesn't it completely overshadow the film industry, for example?
>> No. 25408 Anonymous
18th January 2022
Tuesday 4:26 pm
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>>25407
A quick search online suggests they're on par, with both in the US$40-50 billion region.

As a side question, is the overall revenue of the gaming industry really a very good indicator of its quality and cultural worth? You hear it brought up a lot that the games market is rivalling film/TV for its income, but I always think a deeper dive and some other metrics need to be considered. It's like when Americans insist the US is a first-world country because of its high GDP, despite the absolute shitshow that their day-to-day life is.
>> No. 25409 Anonymous
18th January 2022
Tuesday 4:55 pm
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>>25406
If this means that CoD games are coming to Game Pass, particularly on day one, this could be a very beneficial move for me. CoD games don't go on huge sales very often, and £70 for the cross-gen edition of Vanguard is ludicrous. If I can get them for a reasonable subscription fee, I'd be over the moon. The new Rainbow Six game is day one Game Pass, soon I'll never have to buy a game again!
>> No. 25410 Anonymous
18th January 2022
Tuesday 5:12 pm
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>>25409
I've never actually managed to play Cod, but it seems a bit nuts to me that games I associate with my PlayStation childhood, like Tony Hawk's Pro Skater and Crash Bandicoot, are now owned by Microsoft.
>> No. 25411 Anonymous
18th January 2022
Tuesday 5:25 pm
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>>25410
Yeah it's odd, but then you look at it and see Crash and Spyro have both been multiplatform for over 20 years. Their Playstation exclusive years were a small part of their overall history.
>> No. 25412 Anonymous
19th January 2022
Wednesday 9:15 am
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Asda are having a clear out of their old Switch bundles.
>> No. 25416 Anonymous
28th January 2022
Friday 10:54 am
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>>25412
They've also reduced the Switch Lite + Animal Crossing bundles to £80, but I've seen lots of people complaining online that Asda staff are hiding stock so they can buy it themselves.
>> No. 25417 Anonymous
28th January 2022
Friday 11:41 am
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>>25416
£80 is almost cheap enough to tempt me so I can play Pokemon games in the garden and use it as a slightly-too-big MP3 player, but then I remember you still have to buy games for full price. Not sure I can go back to that kind of thing after so many years on Steam. Thanks to the rapid expansion of the Chinese middle-class the Lunar New Year has already ushered in another massive Steam sale.
>> No. 25418 Anonymous
28th January 2022
Friday 6:15 pm
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>>25412

The switch is getting on a bit now, isn't it? I'm quite surprised Nintendo haven't pulled their usual stunt of realeasing an XL version, a Lite version, an XL new-lite 3D version, etc etc...

It must be due for a bit of an update before long though.
>> No. 25419 Anonymous
28th January 2022
Friday 6:26 pm
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>>25418
The OLED version came out a couple of months before Christmas.
>> No. 25424 Anonymous
29th January 2022
Saturday 8:03 pm
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>>25419
The OLED version is rather nice, as it happens. There are only a couple of games on it so far that really do it justice, but Metroid Dread was developed for it and you can tell as it look grand.
>> No. 25425 Anonymous
29th January 2022
Saturday 8:22 pm
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>>25418
The 'new' Nintendo 3DS was quite controversial, for having certain features and games that couldn't be played on the previous 3DS/2DS systems. Think the key exclusives for the 'new' model were SNES Virtual Console games, Xenoblade Chronicles, and Fire Emblem Warriors. Nothing particulary exciting, but people didn't like their console becoming obsolete due to a slight upgrade. With the Switch, which has way more mainstream appeal, they probably could get away with releasing an upgraded model, as Sony did with PS4 Pro, and Microsoft did with Xbox One X. But it's a gamble, they don't want to alienate their loyal fans.

Personally I think the Switch is too underpowered for me. For every beautiful smooth running game like Super Mario Odyssey and Metroid Dread, you have dozens of third party games which run like shit and/or need to be streamed. I'm not a graphics snob, but playing Shin Megami Tensei V at 20FPS while my console whirrs like an aeroplane, not a great experience.
>> No. 25436 Anonymous
1st February 2022
Tuesday 8:41 am
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>Japanese technology giant Sony says it will buy video game developer Bungie in a deal worth $3.6bn (£2.7bn). The US-based company is best known for the Destiny and Halo gaming franchises.

>Sony says the deal will give it control of Bungie's franchises and access to its live gaming services, as it aims to "reach billions of players".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60210450
>> No. 25437 Anonymous
1st February 2022
Tuesday 3:20 pm
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>>25436
Franchises, plural?
>> No. 25438 Anonymous
1st February 2022
Tuesday 4:32 pm
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>>25437
Marathon's back, baby!
>> No. 25441 Anonymous
1st February 2022
Tuesday 7:45 pm
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>>25436
Destiny is maybe the most boring shooter on the market. There are nuggets of brilliance in the enemy backgrounds, but the gameplay is tedious. I beat 2's campaign at launch, and I can't remember any set pieces, any story beats, anything of note. It's the gaming equivalent of muzak. It exists, nothing more. Does not begin to touch the greatness of Halo. I doubt Microsoft are quaking in their boots knowing Sony have Bungie.
>> No. 25442 Anonymous
1st February 2022
Tuesday 9:19 pm
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>>25441

Destiny 2 got even worse once they made it free to play, I jumped in and played for a while because it was free but without going into an engaging campaign it just turned into a mildly distracting shoot-n-loot with no stakes or interesting story to hook you.
Clearly there was a plot to begin with but you sort of had to dig around the main hub to find the missions, and then they were disjointed and not that interesting anyway. I much prefer indie FPS games lately, and Doom, but Doom is a whole beast unto itself now.
>> No. 25794 Anonymous
27th September 2022
Tuesday 1:22 pm
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Are PS5s worth it yet? I've got a Series X, but the PS5 appeals to me for its own exclusives, particularly Final Fantasy XVI (though I believe that's only a timed exclusive). Are God Of War and Uncharted and TLOU and Returnal worth dropping £500 on a new console. I see PS now has a Game Pass style service, anyone know if it's any good?
>> No. 25795 Anonymous
27th September 2022
Tuesday 5:07 pm
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>>25794
Not really.
>> No. 25797 Anonymous
27th September 2022
Tuesday 9:50 pm
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>>25794
Didn't Sony announce last month they were raising the price of the PS5 due to inflation?
>> No. 25813 Anonymous
17th October 2022
Monday 7:06 pm
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Picked up an Xbox One. I know I'm a generation behind but what games do I start with?

I've had a look on The Game Collection and they have Fallout 4, Dishonoured 2, Titanfall 2, Shadow of War, Mothergunship and Red Faction Guerrilla, amongst others, for £2.95 each so that seems like a good place to start?
>> No. 25814 Anonymous
17th October 2022
Monday 8:17 pm
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>>25813
I'm sure you could find a very cheap 1 month trial to Gamepass Ultimate which should provide access to a lot of newer games. There are tricks you can do to get 3 years worth of it for <£100

Some good picks on your list. Maybe also Halo: Master Chief Collection, Dark Souls, Forza Horizon, Hollow Knight, Ori and some of the older CoD titles maybe.
>> No. 25815 Anonymous
17th October 2022
Monday 8:25 pm
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>>25813

Those are all solid games, save perhaps Red Faction, which is just a bit bland, and much, much older than the others. It's the sort of game that would be in that 99p bin if Game still existed. Hang on, do Game still exist?

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