>>24342
Why are you booing him? He's right!

>>24342>>24356
When I first moved to West Yorkshire I was shopping and struck by the overpowering smell of curry. It took me a little while to realise it was the Asian family at the other end of the aisle; they must have bathed in cumin.

I also had a mate who lived in a council house where the former tenant was Asian. All of the walls were stained yellow from how much he must have cooked curry and it took weeks of having all of the windows open to get rid of the smell.

>>24357
Aye, yeah, that's mad that.

>I... had a mate
Liar.

Black Americans report that hwite people smell like wet dog, especially when wet.

>>24360
What did they put in school uniforms that made them smell like wet dog when it rained? Never had any other clothes that do that.

>>24361
Woolen clothes often do that.

>>24360
According to Chinese people we smell like butter. I think they're jealous of our lactose tolerance.

>>24363
Japanese people say we smell like cheese.

I think the message is that everyone smells.

>>24364
Based on my experiences from university, Chinese people smell like sneezes.

>>24364

Arabs think we smell of milk. I'm starting to see a pattern.

X group smells to Y group of most pungent food X eats a lot of that Y doesn't, shocker.
Not sure where the 'wet dog' smell fits in there.

>>24367
Black people smell like cocoa butter (which they don't eat) and not fried chicken grease though.

>>24357

Are you the same lad who always posts things like "nuke the West Riding" in response to things that had nothing to do with West Yorkshire?

>>24368
s/eat/consume

Welp, otherlad called it.

>>24427

Otherlad who called it reporting in. Unsurprising, but there is some good news.

The 16GB 3070 and 20GB 3080 have been confirmed, which should be tremendous value for dev workstations that are limited by VRAM more than training time.

Puget have done some preliminary benchmarks on the 3080 in TensorFlow and it goes toe-to-toe with the Titan RTX, which was a £2500 card. The tensor cores may be gimped, but they're still damned fast.

Now if I can only get my hands on one...

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/hpc/RTX3080-TensorFlow-and-NAMD-Performance-on-Linux-Preliminary-1885/

>>24428
Thanks for the link. Dettmers also ran some FP16 tests, albeit against a range of different GPUs. His results weren't quite as dramatic but are still impressive:

https://timdettmers.com/2020/09/07/which-gpu-for-deep-learning/#Additional_Considerations_for_Ampere_RTX_30_Series

I'm (>>24241) back - ran Furmark for 15 minutes and it froze. Had to take a picture with my phone. The dip in temp was when I briefly turned off the fur. I don't see what the problem could be.

Yeah, literally no new card is ever fitting in my case, unless I do pic related. Sodding hell.

>>24504
That does look really neat though - do you know what case it is?

>>24505
Yeah, I'm looking at one right now. Thermaltake Core V1. It's cheap and popular among people who want to mod their cases.

>>24505

Not him, but it's a Thermaltake Core V1. We had a bit of a conversation previously about the lack of GPU clearance. I can't recommend it these days as the layout is rather old-fashioned. If you're in the market for a Mini-ITX case, you'd need a really good reason to choose anything other than a Cooler Master NR200.

>>24507
Thanks, that's really interesting. Last year we built a PC for one of my teenagers, and used a similar case, the Cooler Master Q500; was very impressed by it.

AMD's "Big NAvi" line up of 6000 series cards were announced today and all 2 go toe to toe with their Nvidia competitor (according to AMD's benchmarks) and they've announced people with 5000 series Ryzen chips + 500 series motherboards will get direct memory access functionality for all the 6000 series cards.

Going to wait for reviews to drop for both the 3070 partner models and the whatever Sapphire release for the RX 6800 before I dip my toes, either way you're looking at £500-600 this gen for a mid range card from BOTH companies and that is at least some progress. Hopefully AMD making back some ground here lets things get more competitive on pricing.

>>24509

The 6700 and presumably 6700XT is the one to really get excited about, if they can market that for £400 like they did the 5700XT it'll knock Nvidia's offering stone dead. They appear to have played it very conservatively with the 3070, despite all the hype, but of course we have to remember they'll just up the clocks and bash out a Super and Ti version at the same price as soon as AMD get its competition out.

You're all assuming AMD won't bork their drivers again.

>>24515
I don't know if you keep up with tech news, but AMD addressed that a while ago so hopefully no worries on that front. They have invested a considerable amount of resources into driver stability going forward after the 5000 series was full of bugs.

>>24510

The budget 6500 and 6700 cards are going to be interesting price/performance wise. I doubt Nvidia will come close there either.

On a bit of a tangent, I'm between Graphics cards at the moment and I decided to dust off my Sapphire 290X Vapour-X. It uses an integrated vapour chamber + 3 fan shroud cooler not too dissimilar to the Xbox One X. I changed out the thermal paste on it and have it stable at 1125/1600Mhz and it's sitting at 71c under full load and it's 7 years old at this point. Not too shabby.

This was the last card AMD released to compete with Nvidia directly at the high end and it's STILL getting comparable results to the 580/590. This card was a complete fluke by AMDs standards at the time though, they hadn't released an Nvidia killer before that since the 7970.

Regardless, I think 2021 is going to be a very good year for PC gamers. DDR4 prices are coming down too FYI, from now until Christmas keep your eyes out. There is a massive over supply at the minute, but it'll self correct in January when retailers re-stock after the holiday.

>>24520
My 7950 still holds up to this day. I replaced it with a 2060 about a year ago, but the improvement realistically feels like nothing compared to the jump between my HD 4670 and the HD 7950.

Look I just want the best graphics card I can get for, let's say £300. But now I'm too scared to buy anything after reading the RTX 20 series are overpriced and the RX 5000 series has shit drivers.

>>24525
Right this minute everyone well the two GPU companies anyway are releasing a new generation. Unfortunately to grab the headlines about 4K this and ray tracing that they launch their "flagship" cards first and they tend to cost a significant portion of your yearly income. All this is to say in a few months a new card in your price bracket might be out and well worth the cost.

Right this minute you can get a 2060 (non-super) for £300. Fifty quid either way and you'll get a 1660 Super or a 5700XT, the drivers for which are basically fine and if it does turn out to be a shitter you can return it.

Wish I could delete posts again so I don't have look at how I said "right this minute" twice in one post like a mook.

>>24526
>All this is to say in a few months a new card in your price bracket might be out and well worth the cost.

Do you mean to say from the new generation, the RTX 30 and Big Navi? OK, but aren't the decent mid-range cards from the new gen supposed to be the RTX 3070 and the RX 6800 which have already been announced and are retailing at £500-600?

>>24528

There will definitely be an RTX 3060 and an RX 6600, they'll both be competing around the £300 mark, but don't expect to see them before Christmas.

The 5600XT and the RTX 2060 are both perfectly decent cards, they'll perform very well at 1080p for the foreseeable future, but you'll get a lot more for your money if you can wait a couple of months.

>>24528
It's more or less certain that Nvidia will be selling a 3060 at some point in the near future and Big Navi will likely be getting lower end cards too, though the timing on that could be some way off as the 5700s came out in July of last year and it wasn't until December of that year and January of this year that the 5500 and 5600 came out respectively. Nvidia had a similar lag between its 2080 launch and the 2060.

If you get yourself a new card though, it plays everything you want it to play and you can start doing that ASAP rather than in three months, then who cares about the extra 25FPS you probably won't even be able to see on whatever monitor you have. I feel like I gave poor advice earlier because ultimately you could end up waiting for newer, better gear forever.

>Okay, so you likely can't even find the new GPUs or the soon-to-launch GPUs in stock. Why not just pick up a previous generation card on sale? It's a nice thought, but the problem is that most previous generation GPUs are overpriced now. Again, blame COVID-19, but just about every mid-range or higher GPU has seen prices increase over the past few months.

I was right. Oh well.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/terrible-time-to-buy-gpu-late-2020

RTX 3060 Ti has got an excellent review over at RPS - I guess I'll plump for that in the new year bar any better midrange options in the month to come.

>>24587

It has pretty insane specs, beating out the 2080 super in some regards.

For that reason though there's quite a shortage of them.

>>24530

6700 and 6700XT slated for January, allegedly.

Daft question but when roughly would the 40 series cards be out? Is it a yearly thing, two, etc.

>>24673
Probably October/November, but could be longer.

>>24673
But you won't be able to get any of them either.

OK, I've built all my own PCs in the past with mixed results, so let's say I want to cut out all the faff and get a pre-built rig with an RTX 30 card. Where's the recommended place to shop for a pre-built gaming PC? Scan? Overclockers?

>>24716

SCAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!!!

>>24717
So not Scan then?

>>24717
This guy is such a loser, i love it.

I've scrolled up and seen people recommending not Overclockers due to them being big racists or something, so fair enough there.

>>24721

They used to be racialists, but they aren't any more. They are still quite expensive.

>>24721

Why would racism stop you buying from them?

>>24725

Some people don't want to give money to racists.

>>24725
Oh Simon!