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|>>|| No. 17841
I owned a Jaguar, and enjoyed it. Power Drive rally was fun. it had the best version of Wolfenstein 3d and Tempest 2000 holds up today.
|>>|| No. 17843
Awesome, as is Jeff Minter. The Jaguar also introduced me to Doom, which I'm still playing and making maps for today.
|>>|| No. 17845
True. I remember playing it at the time and not thinking much of it. I haven't played any other version since.
|>>|| No. 17847
Exception that proves the rule. It was okay. Shame if you had to play it on the Jaguar though. What a turd that machine was. A bigger flop than a sweating, drunk and fat old bald man raging because he can't get it up to stick it in a prozzie. In the end there was an excellent AvP game on the PC anyway. I had great fun with multiplayer matches.
|>>|| No. 17848
>What a turd that machine was.
A shiny black turd that entertained me for many hours with it's faux 64 bit goodness.
|>>|| No. 17849
I wouldn't resent anyone getting their money's worth out of it, of course, so good for you. At least it went to justify some of the dreadful waste of money, space and time it was, even if only a little bit.
And at least it wasn't one of the outright knock off ones, back in the day.
|>>|| No. 17854
>I wouldn't resent anyone getting their money's worth out of it, of course, so good for you.
That's okay mate.. Although I have to admit it wasn't my money that acquired the Jaggie.
I went on a hillwalking weekend with my older brother in Wales that went tits up for various reasons and we came home early. He financed the entire expedition and the money which was left over from this fiasco was spent on the Atari Jaguar.
I was a happy chappy.
|>>|| No. 17857
I can't be asked to race around and rob stores for money. Let me know when they are giving out money.
|>>|| No. 17859
>Awesome, as is Jeff Minter
I have tremendous respect for Minter (I watched Merak again the other night and it is amazing), he's always seemed like a just a really nice bloke, but I've got to be honest and say that neither Tempest 2k nor Space Giraffe do much for me.
He's had a peculiar knack for picking the losing platform in the past, too. I've long wanted to give the Nuon a shot, just to see, but again, Tempest really isn't my thing.
|>>|| No. 17860
That's okay friend. You don't have to like everything Minter has done or the platforms he's supported to do wotever or wot not. Have you tried Llamatron when it comes to relax your mindless bum thingy? I'm completely farted with fish scales and shit.
|>>|| No. 17862
>Have you tried Llamatron when it comes to relax your mindless bum thingy
On the contrary, Llamatron generally leads to the clenching of my ringpiece. The Ozric Tentacle doesn't defeat itself, as I'm sure you're aware.
|>>|| No. 17981
I don't think it's particularly weird that they didn't release GTAV on PC yet, a simultaneous "HD" release alongside PS4/Xbox One versions makes sense. It is however a bit weird that Rockstar are apparently still pretending like they're not going to make those versions.
|>>|| No. 17982
It's not weird. They are taking their time to port it so it isn't a mess, they obviously just concentrated on the console releases.
I don't think it will get a seperate next gen release, but I hope I'm wrong.
|>>|| No. 19180
Fall aka Autumn.
You are wrong, it is. Q3/Q4 this year for 4, One and PC.
I personally don't see the likeness, nor can I remember the character she thinks she's based upon. Christ, people are so self absorbed but she's American, so I guess the lawsuit is hardly surprising.
I'm still playing this online, it's great fun to jump in a chopper or jet and fly around for 20 minutes shooting people with missiles. Eagle 20, Fox 3.
|>>|| No. 19181
>You are wrong
I vaguely remember making the post you are replying to and yeah, a hunch I had 7 months ago about a next gen release turnmed out to be wrong. Why would you assume we hadn't followed E3?
Anyway, the question on
4chan's /v/everyone's lips is will heists be implemented online, finally, and if they are what mass of excrement will be seen flung in rage on the internet if PS360 doesn't get them?
I honestly cannot see the PS360 versions getting left out, but as noted earlier I have been wrong before.
|>>|| No. 19182
Rockstar said from the early days that online would have heists. I don't understand why so many people seem to think clear statements they've made will turn out to be lies? Have Rockstar said things before that later turned out to be fibs?
>Why would you assume we hadn't followed E3?
|>>|| No. 19183
>Have Rockstar said things before that later turned out to be fibs?
Do release dates count?
|>>|| No. 19184
Interesting... I'd be inclined to say no.
I kind of think of a release date as giving an eta to when you expect a meal you're making to be ready.
If you're still cooking it 10 minutes after you thought it would be done, I don't think that makes you a liar...
|>>|| No. 19187
With instructions written in English as poorly as that, possibly even longer!
|>>|| No. 20975
Lads how well optimised this game is?
I have a bit of free time to waste and I'd play the game but all I have now is a rather shitty laptop. OTOH a mate of mine played it on a laptop too, on High. His laptop is a tad less shite though, Core i5 something and 8 GB of RAM.
Mine is Core i3 Sandy Bridge and 4 GB of RAM. Any chances?
|>>|| No. 20976
You've neglected to mention the most pertinent piece of information: your graphics card/chip.
|>>|| No. 20978
Don't try it on integrated graphics you'll fry something somewhere, but if you have a dedicated laptop card then you should be OK on low everything as long as it has 2 GB of VRAM.
It's pretty well optimised, it's a shit hot port. It hovers around the Steam top sellers list pretty much constantly for a reason.
|>>|| No. 20979
You'll have trouble playing it without a graffics card.
For comparison my main PC is an i5 of some sort (one the lads here told me was the best bang for buck), 8gb DDR3 and a GTX760. I can max the settings out with that comparatively modest rig, but the framerate is noticeable smoother and more stable moving things down to high and medium.
You probably won't have any trouble getting it to run. Just don't expect much of the eye candy, and prepare for a fair bit of stuttering as it loads new areas in etc.
|>>|| No. 20984
My bad. I have both the integrated and the dedicated videochips. Intel HD3000 and AMD Radeon 6470/6490/7470M something, 2 GB VRAM. Different programs identify the latter card differently.
|>>|| No. 20985
You'll get it to run, but I doubt you'll find it particularly enjoyable o that machine. There's only so much "optimising" that can be done, on their end and yours.
|>>|| No. 20987
Due to lousy graphics or due to stuttering?
I can probably tolerate the former — I'm not too demanding on that sort of thing. The latter is a deal breaker though.
Aw, sod it. I'll play it in 2020s.
|>>|| No. 20988
I'm no graphics card expert but I would assume it's strongly influenced by what screen resolution you are looking to play it at. You don't need a titan to play a well-optimised game at 1366x768 but I would think most laptop GPUs would chug at resolutions above 1080p.
|>>|| No. 20989
I think with a game like GTA V it's a bit more complex than that, really. Back in the days of arena shooters where everything was just loaded into ram and your performance was a sheer matter of pixel-crunching horsepower, yeah, resolution was probably the biggest factor. But a modern game like this has a whole host of other issues that make it more dependent on the subtle ways your components interact. I'd suspect memory/VRAM and disk speed is the biggest factor in this particular title, with the constant need to stream new stuff as you hurtle down the freeway in a sports car. But there's also pedestrian/traffic AI and physics for the CPU to worry about, weather, day night cycle and such. The actual graphics output isn't going to be the bottleneck for this game on a low-end rig.
But then I could be wrong. Just pirate it and find out, lad, don't feel guilty. The online mode is rife with hackers anyway.
|>>|| No. 20991
The problem is that I haven't played many games on it — I cannot refer how good/bad it is at games. HL2 went absolutely nice, but it's 10 years old, if not more. Deus Ex: Human Revolution was comparatively playable, albeit the FPS being somewhere around 25-35. I don't remember the graphics settings for the latter; probably between medium and high, but not low.
I'd probably do that if it wasn't the sheer size of the download. 50 GB, right?
Not interested in Online. Laugh at me, but I want to play it because of the story and mayhem. And because I'd like to see the LS again.
|>>|| No. 20992
Don't bother mate, it'll run like arse on that setup. It's a much better experience with the graphics options cranked up, worth savouring. Max draw distance at >60fps on PC made it feel like a new game after playing on X360 2 years back.
|>>|| No. 20995
All right, I've nicked GTA IV to test how would the machine behave with something older.
It started on High nearly everywhere except the Texture Quality setting. I have also lowered the quality of shadows setting because, well, the exhaust was too damn hot. It's still quite hot. The game is rather playable. The FPS is somewhere between 30 and 45.
I think I won't be playing V on this machine lest I fry something.
|>>|| No. 20996
Do you have a tool like Speccy to measure the actual temperature? On my laptop the motherboard can get above 70C when gaming, think you've got to worry if it starts going north of 90C though.
Laptop components are (or should be) designed to withstand higher temperatures than their desktop counterparts to account for the poorer airflow.
|>>|| No. 20997
Be aware that Speccy won't guarantee accurate motherboard temperatures. On my machines, the motherboard temperature alternates between 60 and 120 (not fluctuates, alternates). The numbers you want to look at are CPU and HD temperatures. You don't really want those going far above 70 and 55 respectively. (On my desktop, full-on Prime95 gets the CPU no higher than 59C.)
|>>|| No. 20999
Nay, I don't. The metal above the exhaust tends to be between warm and rather hot.
Good that you've reminded me about this kind of thing though. Cheers.
> or should be
They probably should, but there's no guarantee they actually are. I need this machine, so I'd be careful with it.
|>>|| No. 21000
>The numbers you want to look at are CPU and HD temperatures. You don't really want those going far above 70 and 55 respectively. (On my desktop, full-on Prime95 gets the CPU no higher than 59C.)
70C is about right for CPUs, that's Intel's recommended max temp for their modern CPUs, anyway - the chips won't start falling over until >100C, but they'll still function fine at 80-90, you're just running the risk of shortening their lifespan. It's worth pointing out that some models of GPU have, by design, been running at 95C as their intended standard temperature for years now:
With respect, I'm not sure why you'd prioritise monitoring HDD temp as they never get particularly hot; unlike CPU/GPU, they don't get much hotter from working harder. Monitoring CPU/GPU temps is significantly more important as they fluctuate to a much greater degree, and both are dependent on heatsinks and fans to keep them cool. Heatsinks get clogged with dust, fans can break. HDDs just sit there.
The renderer on the PC port of GTA IV is fucking useless and not a good indicator of anything much, incidentally. But yeah, get speccy or hwmonitor and check what temperatures you're seeing with various games and go from there.
|>>|| No. 21001
>With respect, I'm not sure why you'd prioritise monitoring HDD temp
In a laptop it's a good proxy for internal temperature, and unlike the motherboard you'll almost always get a reliable reading. High CPU temp? It's working hard. High CPU and HDD temps? You probably have a ventilation problem.
|>>|| No. 21002
Interesting idea, but laptop HDDs aren't ever actively ventilated. In any case, it's usually obvious enough if you've got a ventilation problem - the CPU will be idling at a high temperature, and the fan will be constantly going at full blast. The HDD temp is irrelevant for diagnosing air flow issues.
I suppose that if you had high CPU at idle and low temps everywhere else that could be an indicator of poor heatsink seating/shitty thermal paste application, but that's kind of an edge case.
|>>|| No. 21003
>Interesting idea, but laptop HDDs aren't ever actively ventilated.
They are, however, made out of materials that conduct heat, and come with working heat sensors. The temperature fluctuates a lot less than the CPU so to borrow an analogy from statistics you know you're looking at the man and not the dog.
|>>|| No. 21004
It's pretty obvious what you're looking at if you're seeing high CPU temperatures and ~0% CPU utilisation. I'm trying to imagine a situation in which the HDD temp reading would be useful; if you can't get a laptop's CPU to idle then you've got other problems.
|>>|| No. 25753
Supposed leaks of GTA6.
I guess I've missed the angry gamer shitstorm about one of the characters being female?
|>>|| No. 25755
The takedown confirms it. Though the sheer effort that it would have taken to create that just to troll was evidence enough.
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