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>> No. 24225 Anonymous
2nd June 2015
Tuesday 12:40 pm
24225 Windows 10
So who's looking to upgrade when the full product is released in the near-future? It looks to me like they've put a lot of work into this one, and most importantly the Start menu makes a welcome return.

I'd like to upgrade, but I'm not sure why it doesn't seem to like my laptop's bluetooth, anyone know how easy is will be to upgrade then roll back to 8.1 if it doesn't work?
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>> No. 24533 Anonymous
19th August 2015
Wednesday 2:17 am
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>>24530

Good job I've never done that either then.

I'm not trying to be a smart-arse, but a free windows OS is a gift horse that very much should be looked in the mouth, considering how ubiquitously easy it already was and always has been to get for free.

Piracy and license breaking means nothing to the sort of people who grew up copying game cassettes on their parent's hi-fi. You only had to know that one lad who worked behind the desk at PC World to come over and install Windows 95 for you. Disc-burning was already a thing by the time Windows 98 came about. Then torrents happened.

I'm surprised it's taken them this long to yield considering they've always known this to be the case, and make their real money from business clients.
>> No. 24534 Anonymous
19th August 2015
Wednesday 2:19 am
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>>24533
What sort of fucking moron runs a pirated OS in 2015?
>> No. 24535 Anonymous
19th August 2015
Wednesday 2:23 am
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>>24533

It's only a free upgrade for a year, so they can encourage the migration of their userbase from Win 7 and 8 versions, because supporting that many operating systems is a drain on resources.

Everyone else has to pay £99. The OS is on sale right now, you can buy it from PC World.
>> No. 24536 Anonymous
19th August 2015
Wednesday 2:25 am
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>>24534

The implication being that an OS obtained illegitimately will be compromised, right?

Are you arguing in favour of the apples or the oranges here?
>> No. 24537 Anonymous
19th August 2015
Wednesday 2:30 am
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>>24534

A moron who plays PC games, one would assume, since they mostly come out on Windows OS and they're skintthey don't want to give Microsoft their hard earned giros.

Although, with this free upgrade thing, if you are a filthy pirate, you can get in on the ground floor with your very own legit copy of Win 10 (first time for everything, right?) by exploiting volume licensing.
>> No. 24538 Anonymous
19th August 2015
Wednesday 8:35 am
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>>24534
One who knows the whole "rooted OS" thing is an urban legend, presumably.
>> No. 24541 Anonymous
19th August 2015
Wednesday 9:10 am
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OK lads, let's say there is someone still running XP until he has the money to build a new gaming PC. What OS should this completely hypothetical person install? 7? 8.1? 10?
>> No. 24542 Anonymous
19th August 2015
Wednesday 9:15 am
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>>24538
Is not getting security updates an urban legend?
>> No. 24543 Anonymous
19th August 2015
Wednesday 9:47 am
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>>24542
Yes. Even copies that fail the genuine Windows check still get the security fixes.
>> No. 24544 Anonymous
19th August 2015
Wednesday 10:00 am
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>>24541

10. It's better for gaming and soon a lot of PC games will use DX12, which only Windows 10 supports afaik.

I noticed massive increases in game performance when I upgraded to 10 fwiw.
>> No. 24546 Anonymous
19th August 2015
Wednesday 11:37 am
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>>24544

Anecdotes about performance aside, this is bloody unlikely. DX11 isn't even mandatory in most games and it's 2015. DX12 wont be a regular occurrence for at least another 3 years and even then It's not going to be mandatory unless it is a Microsoft game and it's been specifically built using DX12.

I'd recommend upgrading, because it's a good OS. Waiting, if you have privacy concerns to see how it plays out. For gaming, 7/8.1 will be more than fine for the foreseeable future. You have a year to decide whether you want Win 10, you might as well wait it out.

If you're on XP and you don't want to pay £80 or whatever it cost for a Win 7 OEM(I'm sure you can get them cheaper than this now), I would tentatively suggest downloading a Win 7 Pro ISO, skipping all the activation gubbins, and popping in a memory stick with your Ethernet driver and a (not riddled with AIDs) copy of KMSPico. Upgrading from Win 7 Pro to Win 10 gives you Win 10 Pro which has far more customisation with regards to your privacy. I was able to turn every bit of intrusive bollocks off, apart from telemetry which I was only allowed to change to basic.

Once it is activated, download all the updates. If the Win 10 reservation box doesn't appear there after an hour from the last restart after upgrading, then follow the guides available online to make it appear in legit copies of windows, which yours now is. You might have to delete your update folder and download the appropriate updates manually, as well as having to change some settings in Windows Update in the services menu. It's easy

Or, buy a Win 7 OEM you filthy pirate. Now you have a copy of legit Win 10 to upgrade to at your leisure.
>> No. 24547 Anonymous
19th August 2015
Wednesday 12:11 pm
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>>24543
Nope. Just the critical updates.
>> No. 24548 Anonymous
19th August 2015
Wednesday 12:15 pm
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>>24547
Po-tay-to, po-tah-to.
>> No. 24549 Anonymous
19th August 2015
Wednesday 3:58 pm
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>>24534
The kind that knows how to pirate Windows properly.
>>24546
Why not go for the Enterprise version, if you're sort of pirating it anyway?
EP offers even more customisation (and, allegedly, ability to turn Telemetry off).
>> No. 24551 Anonymous
19th August 2015
Wednesday 5:02 pm
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>>24549

Win 7 Enterprise doesn't get the free upgrade.
>> No. 24569 Anonymous
19th August 2015
Wednesday 8:31 pm
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A quick poke around eBay shows you can now get a useable Windows 7 COA (with dead computer attached) for £15-20.
>> No. 24604 Anonymous
22nd August 2015
Saturday 3:11 pm
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Just downgraded to 8.1. I really liked some of the features of Win 10 - in particular the virtual desktops and Win+Tab application overview thing (basically the things Unity has done for ages). However the performance was noticeably slower on a lot of basic things like web browsing and booting/waking from sleep (gaming performance seemed broadly similar though).

I might go back when Microsoft has updated it more and/or better drivers get released for my laptop (the 'get windows 10' thing hasn't disappeared), but for now 8.1 is a far more complete product to me.
>> No. 24605 Anonymous
23rd August 2015
Sunday 7:57 am
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Lads, what the fuck is this all about? Noticed it on both my laptop and main PC
>> No. 24607 Anonymous
23rd August 2015
Sunday 3:38 pm
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>>24605
Seems like a memory leak to me. I've seen rants about this here and there. People attribute it to faulty drivers or such.

Not a slightest idea how to fix it lad. Sorry.
>> No. 24608 Anonymous
23rd August 2015
Sunday 5:57 pm
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>>24605

Sometimes system will peg my CPU at 50% after waking from sleep. Restarting normally fixes that.
>> No. 24609 Anonymous
25th August 2015
Tuesday 1:44 pm
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>>24605
Try to disable Superfetch.
>> No. 24610 Anonymous
25th August 2015
Tuesday 7:54 pm
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Decided to try it for a few days on my laptop, didn't particularly like it, so last night I rolled it back to Windows 7. And now my trackpad won't work, and neither will the USB mouse, so I can't log in to 7. I'm guessing it's a driver issue that will be fixed as soon as it's logged in and can download the ones it lost, but I have no way of doing that now - anyone know how to log into an account on a Windows 7 machine without using the mouse?
>> No. 24611 Anonymous
25th August 2015
Tuesday 8:00 pm
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>>24610
Hit the Tab key a couple of times.
>> No. 24612 Anonymous
25th August 2015
Tuesday 8:01 pm
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>>24610
As daft as it sounds, does hitting enter not do it? Or at least take you to the password box? It's been a while since I've used Windows 7.
>> No. 24613 Anonymous
25th August 2015
Tuesday 8:22 pm
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>>24611
>>24612
Balls. Neither Tab nor Enter do anything - there are two accounts, which may be the problem, or the upgrade-downgrade process may have buggered the keyboard as well as the mouse, it seems. Any other suggestions from anyone? I'm reluctant to dig out the install disc and try repairing it from there as it's a multi-boot machine, and when I stuck the disc in last night it seemed to want to do a fresh install rather than detecting and offering to fix what's already there, though it was late and my brain was fuzzy so I may not have been paying enough attention.

Thanks lads.
>> No. 24614 Anonymous
25th August 2015
Tuesday 9:43 pm
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>>24613
Up and down keys?
>> No. 24615 Anonymous
25th August 2015
Tuesday 10:00 pm
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>>24614
At this point he could have tested every key on his board many times over.
>> No. 24616 Anonymous
25th August 2015
Tuesday 10:07 pm
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>>24615
You're right, I have tried this, and it looks like it's back to the install disc and the possibility of having to start all over again with the partition, and possibly the whole laptop. Balls, and thank god I backed everything up. Cheers for the suggestions anyway though gents.
>> No. 24617 Anonymous
25th August 2015
Tuesday 10:27 pm
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>>24616
I think you probably knew this was coming, but have you tried turning it off and on again? In particular, try hitting the BIOS to make sure it knows the keyboard is actually there. It's very, very rare, even on a laptop, for Windows to not cotton on to the presence of a keyboard. FWIW, on my desktop at work, the Tab button gets me to my picture, Space or Return gets me to the password prompt, and Enter accepts the password.
>> No. 24618 Anonymous
25th August 2015
Tuesday 10:30 pm
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If I wanted to test Windows 10 out in a virtual machine, from a Windows host, how does this affect my existing Windows license?
>> No. 24619 Anonymous
25th August 2015
Tuesday 10:45 pm
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>>24618

Microsoft provide free VM images for testing and development purposes. They're time-limited to 90 days, but aren't otherwise restricted in any way.

http://dev.modern.ie/tools/vms/
>> No. 24620 Anonymous
25th August 2015
Tuesday 11:33 pm
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>>24617
I have, and although it certainly recognises the keyboard in BIOS, GRUB, and even in Windows Error Recovery when it asks if I want to boot into Safe Mode, no combination of the keys you mentioned (or indeed any others) seems to work. Caps lock doesn't even trigger the warning light. It's bloody odd, frankly - like you, I've never seen Windows refuse to acknowledge a laptop keyboard this way, and I wonder what in the rollback process caused this fuck up.
>> No. 24697 Anonymous
11th September 2015
Friday 11:50 am
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>Don't want to upgrade to Windows 10? You'll download it WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/10/windows_10_forced_download/

Ffs
>> No. 24699 Anonymous
11th September 2015
Friday 12:27 pm
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>>24697
If you think hard drive space or internet usage is something to huff and puff over in 2015, you don't deserve desktop computing. If you think this is a matter of principle where you ought to have freedom over your own device, you're a moron. Most users don't understand Windows Update and their convenience outweighs your silly and contradictory ideals where you cherish an illusory sense control.
>> No. 24700 Anonymous
11th September 2015
Friday 12:36 pm
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>>24699

Jesus Christ ladm8, who put sand in your vagina? Have a nice cup of tea and chill the fuck out.

Once you've had a cup of tea, would you care to explain why we shouldn't have freedom over the devices we own?
>> No. 24701 Anonymous
11th September 2015
Friday 12:45 pm
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>>24700
You own two items, one is a license, one is a physical item that enables you to use that license. The terms of purchase are not the same.
>> No. 24702 Anonymous
11th September 2015
Friday 1:13 pm
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>>24701
Put those goalposts back where you found them, lad.
>> No. 24703 Anonymous
11th September 2015
Friday 1:19 pm
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>>24702
He's pointing out that it's not a case of "should" when it's a practical impossibility. Have you heard of Edward Snowden?
>> No. 24704 Anonymous
11th September 2015
Friday 1:32 pm
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>>24703

I'm pretty sure that wasn't the point he was making, and if it was he's as dense as you.

(A good day to you Sir!)
>> No. 24705 Anonymous
11th September 2015
Friday 1:34 pm
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>>24704
GOOD POINT

WELL MADE

THAT MAN.
>> No. 24707 Anonymous
11th September 2015
Friday 1:45 pm
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>>24701

That's a valid point. I just find it slightly cuntish that when I bought my laptop with Windows 8 pre-installed I had no idea how fucking sneaky they'd be trying to get me to upgrade to windows 10 - an operating system that seems designed to pilfer my user data for the benifit of MS and its preferred partners.
>> No. 24708 Anonymous
11th September 2015
Friday 1:54 pm
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>>24707
It's not very nice but frankly you agreed to it when you bought the machine with that OS as part of the bundle. MS get away with what they can but the onus is on the consumer to not just blindly take whatever their favourite technology company releases next. I'm not meaning to insult, it's not like I didn't do the same, it's just complacency on the consumer's part. Apple could release a phone tomorrow that explicitly said to its users what it was doing and a myriad more, say, inbuilt DNA sampler directly uploaded to the police and Apple's own profiling database, but people would buy it in their millions because nobody cares.
>> No. 24710 Anonymous
11th September 2015
Friday 2:03 pm
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>>24707
Also:
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/even-when-told-not-to-windows-10-just-cant-stop-talking-to-microsoft/

http://arstechnica.co.uk/information-technology/2015/09/microsoft-accused-of-adding-spy-features-to-windows-7-8/

>>24708
Again, you are completely correct. I tried out Ubuntu the other day thinking a user friendly Linux distro would be less invasive, how wrong I was. Any sage advice for someone not wanting to be tracked and monitored on a PC?
>> No. 24711 Anonymous
11th September 2015
Friday 2:14 pm
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>>24710
>Any sage advice for someone not wanting to be tracked and monitored on a PC?
Not from me, I actually know bugger all about computers and tracking. Just a tad about commercial operations.
>> No. 24712 Anonymous
11th September 2015
Friday 2:19 pm
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>>24710
Yes. Don't use a PC.
>> No. 24713 Anonymous
11th September 2015
Friday 2:28 pm
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>>24710
You can spend an obscene amount of money to build a computer with allegedly secure components to calm your paranoia.

https://www.crowdsupply.com/purism/librem-15
>> No. 24714 Anonymous
11th September 2015
Friday 2:33 pm
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>>24713
Or you could donate money to your local church and hope god will safeguard your privacy.
>> No. 24715 Anonymous
11th September 2015
Friday 2:49 pm
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>>24708
>It's not very nice but frankly you agreed to it when you bought the machine with that OS as part of the bundle.
I beg your pardon?
>> No. 24716 Anonymous
11th September 2015
Friday 3:45 pm
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>>24710
Debian works well if your not scared of Linux. The only subversive tracking there is what you install yourself (popularity contest, tracking package installation being about as close as it gets to monitoring — but if course its opt-in).
>> No. 24717 Anonymous
11th September 2015
Friday 4:33 pm
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>>24716
Debian popcon is pretty honest about what's collected. You are usually prompted to install it during a new installation but it is an active choice rather than sneaking in through the back door, and if you do install it opting out is as simple as removing the package.

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