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>> No. 4253 Anonymous
18th February 2019
Monday 6:32 pm
4253 Car and bike official weekend thread but also weekdays
Okay might as well try and be polite and keep the oil out of the other megathreads.

Welcome to the motor one. In an attempt to actually get people to post in it, tell me about the car you really want and could feasibly afford. Right now I'm really thinking a lot about a big square 80s Merc as we've been talking about them. Even a Lada would be fun as fuck.
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>> No. 4293 Anonymous
7th March 2019
Thursday 9:46 pm
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I've had very many daft 90s cars, but most of them were japanese, not really the Sierra or Escort types, and there's only so many times I can recommend an MX-5.

Most of the exciting hot hatches and stuff from that era are eye wateringly expensive now, anything worth driving (the fast ones) are rightly considered classics, but I wouldn't fancy dropping twenty grand on one.

I think it was the very tail end of the 90s, maybe even the 00s, but there were a few charmingly shit Mondeos with V6 engines in them that must go cheap these days. The Focus....ST something? ST170 I think? They were proper fun but again more naughties than nineties. Fun sleepers though.

If I wanted that proper 90s feeling I'd go for anything featured in the TOCA back in the day. Actually, as I'm typing I just remembered the Volvo 850 T5 - you can get an ex rozzer one for a couple of grand (there'll be a load of well kept and modded ones for way more than that) and they fit all of your critera, particularly them being a bit shit and boxy. They're terrifying once you put your foot down, though.
>> No. 4294 Anonymous
7th March 2019
Thursday 9:50 pm
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Me again, found this - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volvo-850-T5-manual-1996/254137341777?hash=item3b2bc41751:g:LLEAAOSwcSJccZxx

If you don't buy it, I might, so please buy it, I'm trying to save up.

Please also let me know if you want an extended, rambling tirade about 90s JDM cars.
>> No. 4295 Anonymous
8th March 2019
Friday 1:01 pm
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Don't forget the Maserati Biturbo.
I was quite weirded out when I saw one first.
>> No. 4296 Anonymous
8th March 2019
Friday 4:02 pm
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I take back everything I ever said about Maserati's being ugly, fat, etc. That's perfect.
>> No. 4297 Anonymous
9th March 2019
Saturday 3:54 pm
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An old slav-shite car I'm posting only because I've stared at Maserati's windscreen wipers too long. The interesting thing about is that its wipers were powered by the car's engine, mechanically. The faster you go, the faster they wipe.
>> No. 4298 Anonymous
9th March 2019
Saturday 4:15 pm
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It's quite uncharacteristic of everything I've ever seen from Maserati. And it's considerably pretty in its boxiness.
They also had a sedan, 430, in a similar rather plain and bland design. Concerning Biturbo though, I wouldn't call it bland.
>> No. 4299 Anonymous
9th March 2019
Saturday 4:20 pm
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That's hilarious. I'm very fond of the similarly functioning mechanical fuel lift pumps, as they make perfect sense, the more your engine goes the faster you need the fuel.

The idea of you needing to drive faster because the rain is heavier is beautifully Slav.
>> No. 4300 Anonymous
9th March 2019
Saturday 4:34 pm
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Or put in the neutral and rev the engine a bit. Which is silly just as well.
>> No. 4301 Anonymous
9th March 2019
Saturday 10:20 pm
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That grille forces me to see it as some sort of clandestine Lancia
>> No. 4302 Anonymous
10th March 2019
Sunday 9:18 pm
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@26:15 Fastest road legal car - Vauxhall Victor with a 2000hp V8. 0-60 in 1 second.
>> No. 4303 Anonymous
12th March 2019
Tuesday 11:45 am
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Saw a rather well-maintained W123 today, driven by some older bloke in his late 60s.
Think he was mildly flummoxed by my interest towards his 'old shite beater' car.
>> No. 4304 Anonymous
17th March 2019
Sunday 12:30 pm
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This thing.
No idea how it got here.
>> No. 4305 Anonymous
2nd April 2019
Tuesday 10:11 am
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I think I've stared at this car long enough to re-consider my opinion about it and appreciate its existence all out of sudden. Unsure why yet.
>> No. 4306 Anonymous
2nd April 2019
Tuesday 11:26 am
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How come you barely see Toyotas on the road these days? You'll see the odd Yaris, but Toyota seems to have declined in popularity considerably.
>> No. 4307 Anonymous
2nd April 2019
Tuesday 11:52 am
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I see loads. Yaris are popular, Auris and Prius are used by a load of taxi/uber drivers, I see a lot of RAV4s on the lower end of the middle class school runs, and I see plenty of Hilux knocking about on building sites etc.

I even see a couple of 86's around.
>> No. 4308 Anonymous
2nd April 2019
Tuesday 2:34 pm
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They're so boring that you don't notice them. There's absolutely nothing distinctive about their design language these days, no styling motif that announces "this is a Toyota".
>> No. 4310 Anonymous
2nd April 2019
Tuesday 2:59 pm
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They are still reliable, aren't they?
>> No. 4311 Anonymous
2nd April 2019
Tuesday 4:58 pm
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I drunkenly ran my car into a kerb yesterday and I paid for it because I've fucked up the tyre. Got two Michelin Primacy 4s for £115 fitted which isn't too shabby, shame my car cost 5x that.

In other news, it failed its MOT last Friday because the handbrake force was too shitty. Replaced the disc brakes (which were only about 3 months old but for some reason had worn unevenly), didn't change anything. Got some new discs to install as well, hopefully the frame isnt wonky.

Replaced the anti roll bar dust covers too, and got a new fuel filter.

All for a fourteen year old renault.
>> No. 4312 Anonymous
8th April 2019
Monday 3:54 pm
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I've surely become a bit too fond of old Volvos. They are alright.
>> No. 4318 Anonymous
16th April 2019
Tuesday 10:48 am
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I've seen a few of them around recently. They're smaller than I remember.
Fucking minis have warped the world with their lardiness.
>> No. 4319 Anonymous
21st April 2019
Sunday 12:35 am
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I've noticed since turning 30 insurance quotes have dropped dramatically on a lot of motors, some of the sportier stuff dropping by half. It's a shame I had my midlife crisis at 25 as I've gone through most of the fun cars I've wanted anyway.

I did notice I can get a pre-1994 Land Rover insured for less than £150 a year now, though. That might actually offset the diesel it'll drink.

Am I going to end up commuting to work in a car that's barely younger than I am, again? Probably. Watch this space.
>> No. 4320 Anonymous
21st April 2019
Sunday 9:18 am
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>>4319 Get an LPG converted V8? Don't know how foul the running costs would really be. (I've just been looking for a towcar that'll do low miles, so I've been pondering slightly demented landys / rangies.)
>> No. 4321 Anonymous
21st April 2019
Sunday 10:10 am
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I haven't had direct experience with them, but most of the Landy nuts I've spoken to over the years claim that the Rover V8 is so thirsty that even running LPG it's more expensive than a diesel variant. There is a rough but solid looking V8 with the conversion already done on eBay right now but I don't know, having a big tank in the back of a 90 seems silly, there's not really that much room to start with, I'd want to fit a bike or two in the back quite often.

If I was going to be thrifty I'd probably get a TDI and look to install a kit so it can run on veg oil. I can get oil for free if I'm willing to clean it myself, plus hopefully there'll actually be biodiesel infrastructure one day.
>> No. 4322 Anonymous
25th April 2019
Thursday 7:10 pm
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I drove someone's Mini Cooper S today, I think I want one.

Never had a supercharged car before, that seems as good a reason as any to get a two grand-ish one.
>> No. 4323 Anonymous
26th April 2019
Friday 4:16 pm
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If I enter a pay and display car park without dedicated motorcycle parking, can I just park in an empty strip of space somewhere out of the way or do I need to pay to use a dedicated spot for a car? I see plenty of people park the former way but I'm wondering what the likelihood of getting penalised by a car park attendant is.
>> No. 4324 Anonymous
26th April 2019
Friday 8:55 pm
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I know this is a shite answer but it really does just depend on the car park, who runs it, and possibly how much of a cunt the attendant feels like being.

Logically the company should want you to park outside of a bay because that means they have room for another customer. I reckon as long as you're not blocking anything (I'm sure you're not) then you'll probably be fine, but really the only way to know for sure is to ring whoever runs the car park and ask.
>> No. 4331 Anonymous
28th April 2019
Sunday 11:45 pm
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I bought one. I think I was making clients nervous showing up to places in my rusty dodgy looking Micra so my internal justification is that a Mini always looks quite nice and normal and a car you'd expect a consultant to show up in at your place of business, but it's actually still almost as cheap as a Micra.
>> No. 4332 Anonymous
29th April 2019
Monday 1:24 pm
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> but it's actually still almost as cheap as a Micra.
Wait till you supercharger goes!
>> No. 4333 Anonymous
3rd May 2019
Friday 8:54 pm
4333 Fifth Gear Innuendo
- @14:47 Have you got it up yet?
- @31:57 Dick Seaman - Race Car driver.
- @38:48 I've been banged around enough on this show.
>> No. 4334 Anonymous
12th June 2019
Wednesday 11:05 am
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This one turned to be noticeably smaller than I expected.
>> No. 4335 Anonymous
12th June 2019
Wednesday 11:56 am
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Is there such a thing as a modern coupe you can sleep in relatively comfortably? I quite like the idea of going on road trips and saving on hotel costs but don't fancy getting a van or an estate.
>> No. 4336 Anonymous
12th June 2019
Wednesday 12:25 pm
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Not really a coupe but my Skoda Octavia was big enough to sleep two people this way.
>> No. 4337 Anonymous
12th June 2019
Wednesday 12:51 pm
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Not sure what you mean by "modern", but as long as you take the spare wheel out (or pad around it), you could probably get an alright night in the back of my Celica.
>> No. 4338 Anonymous
12th June 2019
Wednesday 4:11 pm
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If it was me, I'd just get a roof tent.
>> No. 4339 Anonymous
13th June 2019
Thursday 9:42 pm
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Yeah sleeping in a car for a night is fine - but any longer and an actual tent (even a small one) will be a far more comfortable sleep.
>> No. 4340 Anonymous
13th June 2019
Thursday 11:45 pm
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Lads. I have a license, and I finally have a job. It's all very confusing, should I buy some old beater for a couple of grand, or pay monthly for something else? Why is it all so confusing? £300 for a new merc doesn't sound bad, right? i'm deathly afraid of something going wrong with a second hand car, and some mechanic making me his slave.
>> No. 4341 Anonymous
13th June 2019
Thursday 11:54 pm
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Dear god, do not take on finance. Just don't.

It's absolutely not worth it, and if you damage the car (you will) or go over the mileage (you will) you'll end up bent farther over a barrel than any mechanic could ever bend you, even with his special mechanic bending tools.

Also, 'a couple of grand' will get you way more than an old beater. You can get an incredibly solid car for that.

How old are you, how many miles do you travel to work, and do you need anything specific? (room for a dog, a bike, etc)
>> No. 4342 Anonymous
14th June 2019
Friday 12:54 am
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Yeah - couldn't agree more - there are many of these monthly Personal Contract Hire/Lease/etc out there, and they are superficially attractive, but they are a terrifically poor way to buy a car. Buying a new car is no guarantee at all that it won't break - as it's new (and if you buy it on a contract), you'll probably end up taking it back to a main dealer for servicing, which is expensive.
>> No. 4343 Anonymous
14th June 2019
Friday 1:10 am
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It's not particularly exciting, but you can get an old Corsa or Micra with about 30,000 miles on the clock for under £2,000. A car with that kind of mileage will last you for years without any major trouble.

Even if you buy a dud and it's only good for scrap after a year, you've still spent £1,600 less than you would have paid to lease a Merc for a year. If (more realistically) you get four or five good years out of it with little more than routine servicing, you will have saved the better part of £15,000. If you're a young lad, it'll cost you an absolute fortune to insure anything vaguely nice. As >>4341 suggests, there are a lot of ways that leasing companies can screw you with unexpected payments at the end of your lease agreement.

Would you rather drive a Merc, or have a couple of very nice holidays every year? Would you rather drive a Merc, or live in a bigger house in a nicer part of town?
>> No. 4344 Anonymous
15th June 2019
Saturday 3:27 am
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Thanks lads. I try to stay grounded, and I think buying a car for a couple of grands sounds better. It's just weird how everyone gets a nice flashy car with the latest plates on finance. It's like a status thing, and maybe I was getting sucked in for that.

I sat down and had a good introspection. I don't need anything outlandish, just a car to help my mum with her shopping for when she gets rid of her car, to drive up to friends, and work (which is an odd 30 mile round-trip in heavy traffic). Maybe a small automatic hatchback would be nice. If I think back, the kind of cars I like are probably cheap now, such as all those Japanese cars in all the games I used to play in (1990s Polo, Civic, and anything Japanese really).

I have been looking at Autotrader and Gumtree. Are there any other places to try?
>> No. 4345 Anonymous
15th June 2019
Saturday 6:51 am
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You're probably doing the right thing.
I've always just bought something cheapish and run it for years - had some nice stuff but never new(er than 10 years).
Just taken delivery of a leased Merc A-class, while my proper company car gets sorted out. I'm not enjoying it (throttle response measured in weeks), and I don't like having to worry about mileage and kerbing the insanely huge, ride-destroying wheels. Satnav sucks, and I can't just mount a phone cradle to the dash with a few self tappers or glue, like usual.
This is just griping - but it really feels as if new cars, and leases, just aren't for me. I like shitboxes, and will be buying a battered landy to maintain equilibrium and sanity...

>>4344 - you haven't ruled out an MX-5, so I'm duty-bound to suggest one. Go on, they're nice, and fun to drive.
>> No. 4346 Anonymous
15th June 2019
Saturday 12:22 pm
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>I have been looking at Autotrader and Gumtree. Are there any other places to try?

If you can find a little bit more money, CarGiant - they buy ex-lease/finance/fleet cars, usually young, sometimes high mileage cars. Have bought a couple of cars off them (and about to buy another). A bit more than £2k, you'll need nearer 5, but recommended all the same and better than a contract hire/finance deal.
>> No. 4347 Anonymous
15th June 2019
Saturday 4:37 pm
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>anything Japanese really
Always fancied a Nissan Cube but the MPG and rarity of them puts me off, still, looks boss.
>> No. 4348 Anonymous
15th June 2019
Saturday 8:05 pm
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Eye of the beholder, and all that.
>> No. 4349 Anonymous
15th June 2019
Saturday 9:04 pm
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It doesn't get much more Desu Desu Kawaii Mr. Miyagi than that
>> No. 4350 Anonymous
16th June 2019
Sunday 1:45 pm
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Some say these were designed just like Saab used to design their planes.
>> No. 4351 Anonymous
16th June 2019
Sunday 5:16 pm
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They really were - tremendous vehicles.

Picture related, my first proper car.
>> No. 4352 Anonymous
17th June 2019
Monday 1:41 pm
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It's sort of rare. I wouldn't ever recall about it if I hadn't a 9000 parked nearby, with the 'on sale' sign.
I think it's been carrying that sign for about two years now, perhaps three. Not a bad car visually; I haven't been inside or driven it to form my own opinion fully though.
>> No. 4353 Anonymous
17th June 2019
Monday 11:52 pm
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9000's were okay to drive, but they're a bit big. The 900 light pressure turbos were a lot more fun.
>> No. 4354 Anonymous
18th June 2019
Tuesday 10:26 am
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That's alright, I fancy barges.
Speaking of which I can't help but post this.

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