>>95654
Fuck off and die.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/russia-ukraine-war-jeremy-corbyn-right-putin-oligarchs

(A good day to you Sir!)

>>95655
>Jeremy Corbyn’s reaction to the prime minister’s Russia statement has sparked a Labour party row, as his spokesman questioned the evidence that Moscow was behind the Salisbury attack.

>The Labour leader came in for sustained criticism, including from his own MPs, after he failed to condemn the Kremlin directly for carrying out the poisoning of former Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter, Yulia.

>The row later intensified when Corbyn’s spokesman appeared to compare the evidence for direct Russian involvement, with the shaky case for war in Iraq.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/14/jeremy-corbyn-under-fire-over-response-to-pms-russia-statement

>Mr Corbyn, then Leader of the Opposition, did not echo her in blaming the regime of President Vladimir Putin for the attack, and his official spokesman later drew a comparison with the faulty intelligence that led to the invasion of Iraq.

>Mr Corbyn provoked audible anger from around the House of Commons when he asked Mrs May “how has she responded to the Russian Government’s request for a sample of the agent used in the Salisbury attack to run their own tests”.

https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-starmer-contradicted-corbyn-on-the-salisbury-attack

I'm judging Corbyn by his own words. He refused to unequivocally blame Russia. He questioned the British intelligence and his number two likened it to the WMD dossier, with Seamas Milne's views on Russia being well known. He said we should give a sample to Russia for testing.

Like it or not, but being an apologist for Russia did not go down well with the public and that is when he started to run out of the momentum he'd built up after the election against Theresa May.

An increasing amount of my idle thoughts are taken up by Angela Rayner's ginger fanny. I'd like to make it clear that I think the honourable lady is a formidable politician, but she also has a minge and I'm daydreaming about it.

>>95659
Her hair is luxurious, but her face only looks good from a couple of angles. I'd still let her boil my bunnies.

>>95655
>Fuck off and die.
You're very compassionate.

>>95660

She became a grandmother at the age of 37. She is undoubtedly absolutely filthy. For the record, I do not believe that her innate sexual dirtiness in any way diminishes her talents as a politician or her dignity as a human being.

>>95661
>She became a grandmother at the age of 37. She is undoubtedly absolutely filthy.
Undeniably so, which more than makes up for her janky face.

>For the record, I do not believe that her innate sexual dirtiness in any way diminishes her talents as a politician or her dignity as a human being.
This place is too small for Poe's Law to take effect, there's no need for the extended '/s'

She's just a council estate Hannah Fry.

>>95661

>For the record, I do not believe that her innate sexual dirtiness in any way diminishes her talents as a politician or her dignity as a human being.

I quite like this.

It's interesting because you're clearly pre-emptively defending yourself from the accusations of Longstandingissues, but in so doing raise quite a valid philosophical question- When does sexually idealising or objectifying someone actually become bad? We're all human, and that means we're all sexual beings. Surely it's possible to have utterly perverted, filthy fantasies about a person and yet still think they are every bit a talented, intelligent and inspirational individual, otherwise you would never have a romantic partner. That's what love and desire is, really, isn't it.

With that in mind, why is it somehow sexist to fancy a woman? Is it only sexist to express it aloud? Is it because fisherpersons have never experienced true love?

>>95664
>why is it somehow sexist to fancy a woman?

u fuckin wot?

>>95664
>that means we're all sexual beings
Right there, that's when it became bad. You sound Jim Jones grooming a woman for his inner circle.

So anyway if this is the current Politics Thread, what do we reckon of today's allegation of a Tory MP watching porn in the benches? Seems like they just can't keep out of a scandal these days, what on earth is going on with them.

I do find it interesting that the only MPs they've questioned about it are women and it's been framed like watching porn is inherently an affront to women. For all we know it could have been a woman watching two lesbos roger each other with a double ender, or a gay bloke watching two tradies nosh each other off, but you know how it is.

Have you ever watched porn at work? Of course you have, that's all you spent the lockdowns doing isn't it. It's what I spent a good chunk of my night shifts doing. But this is an MP, in a presumably active session. Is watching porn on the job acceptable in that circumstance?

>>95667
Seems significantly less important than the whole high court ruling about the care home thing.
https://www.carehome.co.uk/news/article.cfm/id/1669432/government-broke-law-care-homes

>>95664

>Is it because fisherpersons have never experienced true love?

Nah, it's just projection. Strident anythingists are rarely multi-talented individuals with delightful personalities and rich personal lives. The people making the most noise about any given issue are usually people with nothing else going on in their lives. Fisherpersons think that men see them as nothing more than tits, fanny and arse because that's how they see themselves.

>>95667
>Is watching porn on the job acceptable in that circumstance?

Definitely not, but I also think we wouldn't be hearing about it if it was a gay bloke. We'd probably be hearing about it if it was a woman, but only in a salacious gossipy way. I'm not bothered about the porn, but I am bothered about a front-bench MP pissing about like they're a bored work experience lad who would rather be anywhere else. It's all rooted in a rather old-fashioned mindset - male sexuality is inherently menacing, women are fragile and need to be shielded from vulgarity etc etc.

>>95667
I've been trying to devise a joke about how he was just looking at Angela Rayner, but I haven't been able to think of one. I also suspect that this story is part of The Political Game that they love to play: the Angela Rayner story was brought up so Boris could take a righteous stand and make the Conservatives look great and progressive by denouncing that story, so now Labour have decided to release this story to make them look like filthy degenerates instead.

It's possible that he was just sent a sexy gif in a WhatsApp message or something, and then that wouldn't be bad. But the House of Commons parts of being an MP are the most important parts; that's the one time you absolutely shouldn't be dicking about on your phone for any reason whatsoever. You should be representing your constituents and deciding on laws. Go and watch SSBBW MILFs literally anywhere else, at any other time of the week.

>>95670

>Go and watch SSBBW MILFs literally anywhere else, at any other time of the week.

Hang on, what if that MP was just browsing /x/? Do we have a Tory front-bencher in our midst? That would explain a lot TBH.

>>95667
>>95670
You two seem hopelessly naive about this. Politicians not only dick about on their phones as a point of routine but will also fall asleep and absolutely leg it out the chamber once the whip is gone. I think it depends a lot on the context as like >>95671 there has been plenty of times when I've opened my phone browser at work and had this place pop up.

All the stories are coming out now, and they are clearly being used for political point-scoring. It's offensive. There is another news story today that a Welsh MP has said that a Labour MP made offensive comments to her. The Welsh MP does not want her identity to be made public, nor is she willing to name the Labour MP who has made the offensive comments. But she's happy to say he's from the Labour Party. His identity doesn't matter, but it's vital to say he's Labour. What a suspicious load of bollocks. I can happily accept that he probably did it, but when 56 MPs are currently under investigation for sexism, announcing that one of them is a Labour MP and refusing to give any more detail is just cynical opportunism.

Wankathon's been named, Neil Parish.

>>95701

Yet agasin loads of female MPs on the radio al lafternoon talking about how it's all damning evidence of the atmosphere of sexism in parliament etc etc.

I don't get it. Why is watching porn inherently sexism? The bloke was watching porn on his own phone. Do women not watch porn? Was he holding it up to women's faces with his tongue hanging out while wanking, making noises like Taz the Tasmanian Devil?

Why are all the women MPs that fucking backward Victorian Women's Institute type of fisherperson that acts like women are liable to faint and need waking up with smelling salts if they see a willy? Why do they hate sex and sexuality so much?

Obviously the guy shouldn't have been watching porn in parliament but that's not the issue I'm bothered about here, I just fucking hate this kind of puritan, prudish, dried up old bint more than anything, and they're all coming out of the woodwork over this to try score points.

Is it just me? It can't be just me.

>>95702

>Is it just me? It can't be just me.

It's not just you. Joyless puritanism exists across the political spectrum.

A few years ago when there was a campaign to ban Page 3, I was arguing that they should keep it but have a bloke with his cock out on Page 5 to balance things out. Somehow that would also be misogynist, for reasons I can't begin to understand.

The anti-trans stuff that's kicked off lately is basically just a re-hashing of all the old homophobic stereotypes - it's unnatural, they're all rapists, they're grooming your kids etc. Homosexuality became socially acceptable but only by becoming sexless, only by aping heterosexual norms; the legalisation of gay marriage wasn't a victory for gay people, but the ultimate defeat.

IMO it's just an expression of a timeless authoritarian instinct. Anything enjoyable must be sinful, anything primal must be concealed, anything with innate power must be controlled. The reality of the human condition is so terrifying to some people that they feel an overwhelming need to smother it in the beige nothingness of formality and propriety. God might be dead, but the urge to subsume the human and atone for our original sin is alive and well.

Don't trust anyone who hates boxing, because they really hate themselves.

>>95703

Great post m62.

>>95701
>Neil Parish has told the BBC he is resigning as an MP after admitting he watched pornography twice in the House of Commons. Mr Parish - the MP for Tiverton and Honiton in Devon - said it had been a "moment of madness" and "I was not proud of what I was doing".

>He said the first time was accidental after looking at a tractor website, but the second time was deliberate.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61284686

Which tractor website has a similar name to a porn site?

>>95705
Assey Ferguson
Massey Fuckerson
Masseur Fergubum

I don't know any other tractor manufacturers, unfortunately.

>>95705

He was just looking for videos of hard plowing.

>>95705
maybe
https://arbtalk.co.uk/forums/topic/46601-zetor-porn/

>>95705
What's the point of going on the news when you're mostly admitting it? It's over. Skulk back into obscurity instead of literally crying about it.

>>95709

The whips have probably sent him out to distract from something else, otherwise they would have just played the "we must wait for the conclusion of the inquiry" game.

Would everyone be this angry if it was one of the women watching porn while waiting to vote?

Also, was he just watching, or having a wank too? I accidently opened porn on my phone multiple times at work, mainly when I forget it on the browser app and close it.

It's actually quite absurd to watch some of you try to excuse this. He's watching porn at work, surrounded by by people. This doesn't really require deep philosophical debate and I don't know why >>95711 is trying to suggest he had it open at some earlier point in the day then it just popped up. Parish's (shite) excuse doesn't allude to that being what happened at all, unless he was trying to pull up an old regulation pertaining to a bill being discussed and searched "tractor rule 34".

>>95714
>It's actually quite absurd to watch some of you try to excuse this.

Genuinely. I can't think of any job I've had where I wouldn't have been sacked for this, or at the least heavily disciplined. Why don't people want to hold MP's to the same standard as everybody else?

>Would everyone be this angry if it was one of the women watching porn while waiting to vote?

Yes.

>>95714
>>95716
I'll add to this by saying he's my local MP and has always been an absolute bellend, I'm glad he's gone.

It's all about power lads, you're being taxed for this.

>>95711

Everyone (meaning the public) would be just as angry, that I am sure of; but the difference is that if it was a woman the story wouldn't have even come out in the first place, and she'd just be getting a bit of banter in the corridors from time to time.

If it did come out, the focus would remain (as it should have in our timeline) on the fact it's a disgrace to be watching porn when you're supposed to be representing your constituents, and would not have veered off into another boring fisherperson media spectacle about evil bastard men being such men all the time. They can't even help it, can they, with their penises hanging between their legs all day. It's time women took a stand, and moaned loudly and tediously enough that the men buck their ideas up. But for good this time. (Until next time.)

>>95716
>>95714
I blame the nosey bint who probably was taking a peek at his phone. She should mind her own business. It isn't like he was projecting some porno onto the wall with surround sound. How many women MPs read saucy ebooks on their phone? Huh? Or how many people are sending dirty texts at work?

We can all avoid this but just getting a Severance procedure.

>>95726

Except it would never be a woman, because it really is just men who are like this.

>>95714

>It's actually quite absurd to watch some of you try to excuse this.

Would you care to point out, in the thread, where anyone has tried to excuse it? I can't see a single example of anyone excusing it. People are discussing it and the circumstances around it, but I haven't seen anyone attempt to excuse it.

>>95728
Women get a free pass. Angela was showing her fanny, and everyone's mad at the men who noticed it. As >>95726 said, if it were a woman, the story would never make the papers.

Maybe the Saudis were right all along. The sexes should be segregated.

The l33t troll has arrived epic style.

That's odd, why can't you simply link the article?

>>95738
Except that wasn't the Mail's source. The joke Rayner made was taken up as truth by senior Tories and the paper attempted to turn it into one of the most bizarre smears I've ever heard.

Christ, I cannot stand Conservatives.

Is pic related actually happening? I assume not because it makes zero sense, but I laughed all the same.

>... just simple farmers.

>>95706
Claas Dominator, apparently - which isn't even a fucking tractor, it's a combine.

>>95748
>Claas

Good taste, I suppose (ignore gammonthumb, this photo was taken in a horribly cold flat with shite insulation)

Just had a thought. Why do the Corbynistas hate a working class semi-socialist like Angela?

>>95750
As your doctor I'm going to advise that you stop having thoughts.

>>95750
Can you clarify what you mean by "semi-socialist"? I feel that might shed some light on the answer to your question.

>>95750

Partially because she's not a proper socialist, and partially because they hate the working class. The crisis for a certain segment of the left in modern times is that they want to represent a working class, just not the working class we actually have.

I don't mind her. It's hard to say I like her, because I suspect she's about as principled as any of them, which is to say not at all. But she's certainly one of the best of a bad bunch.

>>95752
damned if I know. I went to her website, to see what values she espouses. I am none the wiser. This is about as close as I got:

“From the beginning of my working life I’ve always stood up for working people, first as a Trade Union rep representing care workers and then as a regional union official. Now I use the skills I’ve developed to represent the communities of Ashton, Droylsden and Failsworth.”

It's a remarkably content-free website. Maybe that's best.

>>95754
It's always sad to see how trade unionists fall into this. Imagine how daft and ineffectual it must all feel.

Phwoar. This Neil Parish story is getting pretty intense.