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>> No. 4176 Anonymous
9th March 2013
Saturday 11:35 pm
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Eyup.

Just firmed my offer for a London university. I'm from OOP NORTH and used to things being relatively cheap. Any tips from Londoners/people currently in London university of the best places to go for cheap food and cheapest ways to get around, etc. General tips about London would be appreciated too.

Cheers
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>> No. 4243 Anonymous
14th March 2013
Thursday 10:20 pm
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>>4242

I don't know the name of the course that teaches you how to do PR, sorry.
>> No. 4244 Anonymous
14th March 2013
Thursday 10:21 pm
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>>4240
Yes, but it was nepotism on the basis of being a posho, and nothing to do with his subject. Indeed, among the Oxford crowd, PPE tends to be regarded as the subject people do when they're not really good for much else.
>> No. 4245 Anonymous
14th March 2013
Thursday 10:21 pm
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>>4240

We've had this conversation before, if I'm not mistaken. Nepotism is almost impossible to stamp out because people have a natural affiliation to being drawn towards those they consider 'their own'. Large employers, with graduates from these places, will also head-hunt in elite institutions because it tends to save on risk, and on top of all of that, having been to the same school/university/whatever together is a good way of hitting off well with an interviewer and making a better impression of yourself.

I really don't know what the proposed solutions are to that, really.
>> No. 4246 Anonymous
14th March 2013
Thursday 10:24 pm
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>>4244

>Indeed, among the Oxford crowd, PPE tends to be regarded as the subject people do when they're not really good for much else.

As a 'member of the Oxford crowd', this is quite simply bullshit, unless 16 essays in 8 weeks has suddenly become a hell of a lot easier than I realised.
>> No. 4247 Anonymous
14th March 2013
Thursday 10:25 pm
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>>4245

I don't know the solution to nepotism either. All I'm saying is that if you diversify at the top, nepotism is diluted.
>> No. 4248 Anonymous
14th March 2013
Thursday 10:27 pm
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>>4247

Well this is the thing - diversifying at the top involves risk-taking from large institutions, which just isn't going to happen.

Why take someone who could be amazing from a Redbrick when you could just take someone from Oxbridge who's guaranteed to be at least very good (in their eyes).
>> No. 4249 Anonymous
14th March 2013
Thursday 11:29 pm
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>>4246

Just out of interest, how long are these essays expected to be?
>> No. 4251 Anonymous
14th March 2013
Thursday 11:35 pm
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>>4249

Not him, but as a PPEist they're usually around 2,000 words. The reading lists are the real killers, though - they expect you to do around 40-50 hours a week of work outside of lectures and tutorials, on average.
>> No. 4252 Anonymous
16th March 2013
Saturday 12:14 am
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OP again.

Well this has veered very off topic.
>> No. 4253 Anonymous
16th March 2013
Saturday 1:59 pm
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>>4252
I blame that lad who clearly has a hard on about the Civil Service coming in and shitting things up.

>>4251
PPE is not alone with these kind of demands and hours, I might just add. Historians have a hell of a reading list and let's just say Greats is a bitch.
>> No. 4254 Anonymous
16th March 2013
Saturday 2:42 pm
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>>4253

Oh, I don't disagree. I'm just disputing that it's the thing you do if you're "not good enough for anything else". Every course requires at least 35 hours a week of self-directed learning, and PPE is by no means the easiest one out there.

I'd say classics and maths are the most difficult, though, and in that order.
>> No. 4255 Anonymous
16th March 2013
Saturday 3:17 pm
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>>4254
I agree. PPE is not for the feint-hearted. Not sure there is a 'not good enough for anything else' course at Oxford, it just doesn't work like that from an admissions perspective.

Although thinking about it I do wonder about Art History types...
>> No. 4256 Anonymous
16th March 2013
Saturday 3:47 pm
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>>4255

I've never come across any, although Fine Artists tend to be some of the least "intellectual" types - they make up for it by being completely batshit or ridiculously creative, though. Usually both.

That being said, it's definitely not something you do if you can't do anything else due to it being rather unique.
>> No. 4257 Anonymous
19th March 2013
Tuesday 7:58 pm
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>>4251

Oh, that's not that much. I attend a lesser university and whenever I have 3,000 word essays to do, I give myself at most a week to do them each, on top of other stuff. I probably write more than 2,000 words in notes every week anyway.

Sage for off-topic.
>> No. 4631 Anonymous
23rd July 2013
Tuesday 2:41 pm
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Would getting a student Oyster card be worth it?
>> No. 4632 Anonymous
23rd July 2013
Tuesday 3:17 pm
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>>4631
Yes.
>> No. 4633 Anonymous
23rd July 2013
Tuesday 3:21 pm
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>>4257

But imagine doing two slightly shorter than that every week for 8 weeks straight. It's the stamina that gets you more than anything.
>> No. 4634 Anonymous
23rd July 2013
Tuesday 7:37 pm
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>>4235
So what you're saying is you're long term unemployed?
>> No. 4635 Anonymous
23rd July 2013
Tuesday 8:58 pm
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>>4634

Yes. I'm sure a degree from Oxbridge is just terrible for his career prospects.
>> No. 4636 Anonymous
23rd July 2013
Tuesday 9:02 pm
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>>4635
Valued lower than experience and lower than that of a proper degree.
>> No. 4637 Anonymous
23rd July 2013
Tuesday 9:13 pm
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>>4636

Mate. A humanities degree from Oxford is one of the most coveted and sought after degrees in the world.

Stop talking out your arse.
>> No. 4638 Anonymous
23rd July 2013
Tuesday 9:18 pm
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>>4637
In what field? Finance? No. Law? No. Medicine? No. Engineering? No.

Collecting JSA? Maybe.
>> No. 4639 Anonymous
23rd July 2013
Tuesday 9:21 pm
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>>4638

Boooring.

Come on, lad. Try harder.
>> No. 4640 Anonymous
23rd July 2013
Tuesday 9:25 pm
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>>4639
I'm sorry. Does the truth hurt your left wing views?
>> No. 4641 Anonymous
23rd July 2013
Tuesday 9:28 pm
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>>4640

Not a jot, mate, because you're objectively talking bollocks.

I can see first-hand where people I know are going with their degrees - you're sitting on here telling me everyone's going to be unemployed. I wonder why I'm not changing my mind.
>> No. 4642 Anonymous
23rd July 2013
Tuesday 9:31 pm
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>>4641
So that's a yes then. They're not all unemployed. The "lucky" ones might end up working in the stockroom at a local Argos.
>> No. 4643 Anonymous
23rd July 2013
Tuesday 9:31 pm
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>>4640
Don't be stupid, lad. Any degree from Oxbridge is worth a lot more than a law degree from the Uni of Exeter.
>> No. 4644 Anonymous
23rd July 2013
Tuesday 9:38 pm
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>>4643
I receive two applications for a position in my team. One of them has a degree in women's studies from Oxbridge, the other has a degree in computer science from Leeds Uni. What do I do?

I'll tell you. The applicant with the degree in women's studies instantly goes in the bin, even faster if they're female too.
>> No. 4645 Anonymous
23rd July 2013
Tuesday 9:40 pm
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>>4644

>women's studies from Oxbridge

Sorry, who's talking bollocks now? There are no mickey-mouse degrees like that at Oxbridge, mate.
>> No. 4646 Anonymous
23rd July 2013
Tuesday 9:43 pm
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>>4645
Any "soft" subjects all go into the same pile
>> No. 4647 Anonymous
23rd July 2013
Tuesday 9:45 pm
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>>4646

Define 'soft'.

I'm starting to think you've got a chip on your shoulder, lad.
>> No. 4648 Anonymous
23rd July 2013
Tuesday 9:46 pm
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>>4647

Flaccid.
>> No. 4649 Anonymous
23rd July 2013
Tuesday 9:50 pm
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>>4647
Anything that isn't:
Maths or applied maths, computer science, law or medicine.

I have turned down several people with pointless degrees and it still never gets any less entertaining.
>> No. 4650 Anonymous
23rd July 2013
Tuesday 9:52 pm
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>>4649

Oh wow. The real world's gonna hit you hard, lad.
>> No. 4651 Anonymous
23rd July 2013
Tuesday 9:53 pm
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>>4645

Ahem.

http://womens-studies.mml.ox.ac.uk/

>>4644

No Oxbridge graduate would stoop to work for the likes of you. A humanities degree from Oxbridge is a fast track into the media and arts. Just look at the careers of Footlights alumni - almost everyone involved goes on to have a successful career in the arts.

You do English Lit at Leeds Poly and you end up on the dole. You do English Lit at Oxford and you can do whatever you bloody well like. If you knew any Oxbridge graduates, you'd understand that. The rules are different for them; By the time they graduate they're already on the inside, looking out at the rest of us.
>> No. 4652 Anonymous
23rd July 2013
Tuesday 9:55 pm
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>>4651

Fine. I was talking about undergrad.
>> No. 4653 Anonymous
23rd July 2013
Tuesday 9:59 pm
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>>4644

What is "your team", out of interest?
>> No. 4654 Anonymous
23rd July 2013
Tuesday 9:59 pm
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>>4651
I have many Oxbridge students practically begging for jobs. What with being one of the most prestigious custodian banks in the world. People cut off their limbs to come work for us, and we have a great view from canary wharf. I can speak in far more truth than the swill you've been fed. I'm the one on the inside.
>> No. 4655 Anonymous
23rd July 2013
Tuesday 10:02 pm
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>>4654

He posts from Manchester.
>> No. 4656 Anonymous
23rd July 2013
Tuesday 10:03 pm
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>>4654

It's funny how you don't seem to value economics or PPE then, you know, the banking degrees.
>> No. 4657 Anonymous
23rd July 2013
Tuesday 10:05 pm
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>>4656
Applied maths.

>>4655
From an iPad too.
>> No. 4658 Anonymous
23rd July 2013
Tuesday 10:09 pm
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>>4657

Well I must be dreaming about all the PPE graduates I know going off to the city, then.

To JP Morgan Chase et al., no less.
>> No. 4659 Anonymous
23rd July 2013
Tuesday 10:14 pm
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>>4658
JPM have a pretty good graduate scheme if you're willing to sit in the back office for a few years. I can highly reccomend it. Shame the E is the only useful bit.
>> No. 4661 Anonymous
23rd July 2013
Tuesday 10:18 pm
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>>4659

It depends what you want to go into.
>> No. 4662 Anonymous
23rd July 2013
Tuesday 10:22 pm
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>>4661
Don't get me wrong, philosophy, certain history would be really interesting and all, just not interesting enough to justify however much it costs nowadays. Degrees are an investment and must pay a return.

There's plenty of fun to be had elsewhere, such as making an arse of yourself over the Internet for a few easy giggles.
>> No. 4663 Anonymous
23rd July 2013
Tuesday 10:23 pm
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>>4662

>Degrees are an investment and must pay a return.

I wish you were dead.
>> No. 4665 Anonymous
23rd July 2013
Tuesday 10:26 pm
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>>4662

But this goes back to the point >>4651 was making, about the fact that Oxbridge (and Redbricks to an extent) really do open doors regardless of what degree you're doing. If you want to define success as working in the city or some other job better than 99% of others out there, then you're probably right in that STEM are the only ones worth doing. If, however, you're being a bit more realistic it's still safe to say that an Oxbridge candidate will still net themselves an interview in the vast majority of jobs they apply for.

Oh, and it's a bit silly to argue that Oxbridge aren't top in maths, the sciences, law or medicine, too. They really do top 2 pretty much all of them.
>> No. 4667 Anonymous
23rd July 2013
Tuesday 10:49 pm
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>>4662
Are you of the persuasion that philosophy and history degrees and the skills they teach are of no use in business?

Because if you are then you are a bear of very little brain indeed.
>> No. 4668 Anonymous
24th July 2013
Wednesday 1:01 am
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>>4651
Probably not relevant for Women's Studies but a lot of people are let in on the relatively soft degrees (Land Economy mainly) to represent the uni at rowing and other sports. I heard the Oxford team's captain is 28 or so 'Master of Studies'.
>> No. 4669 Anonymous
24th July 2013
Wednesday 1:22 am
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>>4668

Whilst true, that would be like me scoffing at someone for having done a 'Bachelor of Arts'. It somewhat misses the point.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_of_Studies

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