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My post was a flippant phone post which I only made because I'm too close to my monthly cap to watch porn, but if you want to have an actual debate about it, I'm happy to defend my point.
Most of my peers are fairly well rounded individuals, they can differentiate between their and they're, form a sentence and present ideas in a logical and coherent flow. I think those qualities are sufficient for behind the scenes CS reports, memos and the like.
Interestingly, the driving force behind STEM reports is concise brevity. The driving force behind humanities reports is expansion and explanation. I think the former type would result in a much greater work rate among the CS, as the reports would not pander to the lowest common denominator by explaining everything in depth twice over. They would instead briefly explain the situation and provide a conclusion based on the information available while expecting the reader to have a basic comprehension of events in his or her field and a moderate level of intelligence. If you do not possess both of those things - stop running the fucking country.
As for your comments on speech writing and PR - surely those positions will be occupied with relevant degrees in English and Media?
I wasn't saying every civil servant should be a STEM student, I'm saying that people in STEM roles in the CS should be STEM students, just like people in media roles should be Media students, people in home roles Criminology, foreign roles History & Politics, treasury roles Economics and so on.
I'm arguing that a Classics & Latin degree should not make you a "well rounded individual, one of us, a good chap."
Moving on to b, I completely agree, but you aren't making a complete point. Why should the minister for agriculture be surrounded by senior civil servants who do not have a degree related to agriculture and who have never worked in agriculture?
I'm not dismissing the humanities, just so you know. I'm dismissing certain humanities, just as I dismiss certain sciences. History, Media, English, Politics, Law, Art - all demonstrably essential. Philosophy, Classics, Latin - not necessary.
I honestly have no reply to c. I think you need to wind your neck in with that one mate.
As I explained in response to a, STEM is all about concise brevity - bureaucracy is the anti-thesis of science and would not be tolerated for long if the balance of power within the CS lay in favour of the STEM students.
STEM students are taught to think critically - problem solving skills and real life reactions are the building blocks of any industry based STEM graduate. I think you're thinking of academic STEM graduates, who are usually the most bumbling and incompetent ones, they are left behind to drag the next generation up while the decent ones move on to do important things.
>What you're really advocating is for a larger and more powerful body of expert scientific advisors that isn't just ignored by the government.
Nope - I want more senior civil servants to be STEM graduates with industry experience - I want some of the leaders of our country to be educated in their field rather than good all rounders. I want aces in every hole instead of a spread of jacks. I want the STEM students in STEM roles, I want the humanities students in humanities roles, and I want the decision makers to be a well balanced mix of both rather than purely jacks.
>actually attempt to understand why humanities dominates the civil service and areas like it (hint: it's a bit more complex than 'they're not good enough for anything else', as much as you might want it to be).
I thought you were being reasonable at first, now I realise you're being a cunt. Nice one. The reason humanities dominates the CS is because of the networked nature of the CS. Nepotism and the old boys network are still alive and well in whitehall, the senior roles are filled with humanities graduates, who dine with their old lecturers, who introduce them to the next upcoming humanities student, who becomes the next head of the civil service. That's why STEM will always play second fiddle to the humanities in the CS, and that's why it will always pay to be a "well rounded individual" who can speak in Latin and quote Plato in the CS, while knowing the risks and rewards, using analytical techniques and just generally understanding the subject matter of your department will mean diddly fucking squat.