>>69588
They're doing it at all my local garages, in Surrey.

People are mental.

People are as mental as ever.
Also google maps has some useful features for socially avoidant people like me.

I cycle everywhere. I have never even really noticed where petrol stations are. As a result, I was riding home from work and was baffled at traffic jams that just appeared in random places on streets I ride along. Every single traffic jam I passed vanished immediately at a random point on the road which just happened to have a petrol station on it.

Some guy also road-raged at me on a roundabout that's a complete deathtrap, and I hurled abuse right back because I was definitely in the right. I can only assume this dickhead was angry about petrol stations somehow.

>>69592
It's the same dickheads who get upset at motorcycles or scooters or really any other "inconvenience" a might motorist encounter: as soon as they fuck up, they blame you.

>>69592
>I for one do not own a car

>>69594
I can't help being handsome and rich and so much more intelligent than everyone else.

people are fucking idiots. if you run out of fuel and can't buy any, then you don't have to go to work. fucks sake.

Went to the ASDA petrol station just now and there's nobody there and there's plenty of fuel by the looks of it, certainly at least there was 53 litres left.

I think the panic buyers are doing a shite job, really. Clearly not that much of a panic if you can't be arsed to go at this time of night. I wanted to see people filling up bin bags with petrol like they did in America when they had a fuel panic.

Anyway I can't wait for people to find out petrol goes off pretty quickly.

>>69597
That's why you should store it in the fridge.

>>69598
I'll be the cunt pulling up in an electric car with a load of cans in the boot, since the lawnmowers are on fumes.
Not the 8 cans that matey has in the OP, that's odd behaviour.

>>69594

> I don't even have a car license.

>>69599
I look forward to seeing your picture on the front page of the mail.

Anyone had any luck with LPG? I have half a tank of both LpG AND petrol so plenty to get me home but would be nice to fill up on LPG.

If you drive an older diesel, it probably can't hurt to know a farmer who has a red diesel tank on his farm. Although it does constitute tax evasion.

I used to be friends with a farmer's daughter who drove an old indirect-injection Golf diesel, and she never needed to go to a filling station. I'm not sure how frequent roadside spot checks for red diesel are, but she never got caught.

>>69604
You've got a better chance of plaiting piss than finding a farmer who would share.

Can't cooking oil be used as fuel? I'm sure I've read about leftover chippy grease being used for this purpose.

>>69604
Round here, I see a VOSA checkpoint in a layby about once a year, and I don't get out much. I never get pulled, but I probably don't look like a good candidate, and these days I purr past in electric silence. We're pretty rural, and red diesel is easily available, I either get it from a choice of filling stations or buy some off a farmer neighbour who gets 2 delivery tankers a week. I've also generally got 100l hanging around in cans.
I don't know what the economics of running a diesel genset instead of a fuel oil boiler are, for a little CHP plant to run the house - electricity, heating if I bodge some heat exchangers, and backup in case of ITZ. I'd want batteries to reduce the run hours if heating wasn't needed though. Make it modular so I can drop in replacement engines every few years. Plenty of space, and no neighbours close enough to bother with the noise, although I'd want it silenced. Turbos help, as do big, slow revving engines, not buzzy air-cooled screamers on open pipes.

My local garage has now run out of unleaded and diesel, thanks to all the numpties. These kinds of things rapidly become a self-fulfilling prophesy.

I blame the robot overlords; they've been saying for years that the first people to go come the automation revolution, were the lorry drivers. Sounds like we fucked up there.

(Also, notable that Germany seem to suffering the same shortage of drivers, so it isn't just the usual British incompetence/Brexit)

>>69605

>Can't cooking oil be used as fuel?


I think generally you can use it, but you need to modify your engine slightly. I remember reading something that you need special injectors, because cooking oil will bung up your standard diesel injectors. You will also have to filter it thoroughly to get out any particles and impurities. You can't just pour it in straight from your chip fryer. Also, your latest-generation, high-tech diesel engine will probably struggle with it because it will be very precisely tuned to burn commercially available diesel from a filling station. Plant oil still has somewhat different properties from standard diesel fuel.

>>69597
>ANYWAY I CAN'T WAIT FOR PEOPLE TO FIND OUT PETROL GOES OFF PRETTY QUICKLY.

Stored sensibly it should last a good few years unless you're using some ketamine-injected analmobile. You can blend it with the fresh stuff if you're worried.

Of course what's really going to happen is that such people will no doubt read our humble website with it's organic petrol musings and conclude that the only thing to do is pour it all down the drains. Maybe fill some water pistols and spray it about for a laugh.

>>69610
I bet that's why the pond at spring Mill regularly has oil in it, which killed all the ducklings this year.

Could be worse, at least we're not Americans.

https://www.rudgwicksteamshow.co.uk.com/r/Wellthatsucks/comments/nvna84/how_low_is_the_iq_of_the_average_american/

>>69610

Also, winter diesel differs from diesel bought in summer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_diesel_fuel

In short, summer diesel fuel can begin to cause problems below +3°C.

When I was a younglad, a mate had an old Ford Sierra diesel, which died one night on the way to a club in the first real cold snap of that winter, as it was still running summer diesel. It had to be towed back home, because it stubbornly refused to run properly and the engine went out every few hundred metres. We siphoned out about 20 litres the next day and put it in a jerry can for use the following spring.

>>69612
Why are you passing around commercial Facebook videos staged to go viral that are so lame even rudgwicksteamshow.co.uk mods delete them?

Julius Dein is the producer if you want to follow him for your fill of 2013 style YouTube pranks.

At least we will be getting a bunch of Polish lorry drivers soon, so hopefully no food shortages. It's a bit of a pisstake though. What was the point of Brexit.

>>69615

The point was to prove everybody right that immigrants had indeed been taking jobs and suppressing wages, and then to immediately forget about all that because getting our first world creature comforts is more or less unanimously agreed to be more important in the end anyway.

Also I've got no problem for fuel around here, not yet anyway. Is it a southern thing by any chance?

>>69615
>>69616

Have you lot really forgotten that it was mainly a backfired, poorly veiled political gamble by ARE PIGFRIEND.

>>69615
>>69616
There was never an issue with a lorry driver getting a visa to work here. People did a lot of talking about it but a good HGV licence is a golden passport. They've gone because there's an entire continent begging for drivers with less uncertainty felt around the pandemic and Brexit.

You won't get European drivers on a temporary visa scheme because they don't want to come. It's complete smoke and mirrors to be seen to be doing something hence why you also get faux-popular nonsense like:
>Mr Ellwood said hundreds of Afghan refugees could be trained to fill vacancies.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58687026

>>69615
Populism and reactionary dolphin rape were stage 1. Stage 2 is when big business and corporate interests have to pay us all much higher wages due to the cut in supply from the labour market. Stage 1 is the stage they endorsed; now they have to prevent stage 2 from happening. Weird, isn't it?

People are trying to flog petrol on Facey.

>>69620

The state of these absolute mugs, paying money for petrol.

>>69620

Isn't there some sort of law against trading petrol as a private citizen?


Looks like we're fast approaching proper Mad Max-style ITZ. Nice knowing you, lads.

>>69604

I could buy it from work but it's really not worth the risk. When I lived in Yorkshire the plod would pull me over in my old land rover to dip the tank quite frequently. It was annoying.

>>69623

Maybe it's because I haven't owned a diesel in decades, but I have honestly never seen anybody get pulled over to check for red diesel. Or maybe it just didn't occur to me at that moment.

>>69624
It only really happens if you live rurally. No one is going to pull you over in one of the major cities, but then you'd struggle to get red diesel there unless there's a marina you can blag some 60:40 narrowboat diesel from.

This would be fixed if lorry drivers were actually paid better than what they get now. They want to get immigrants to drive the lorries because businesses don't want to pay the wages.

>>69628
>THIS WOULD BE FIXED IF LORRY DRIVERS WERE ACTUALLY PAID BETTER THAN WHAT THEY GET NOW.

*20 years ago.

The issue is that Europe doesn't have HGV drivers. We're used to pulling all the drivers from the east but now Poland isn't a nightmare and Ukraine has already been bled out. To top it off there is a backlog of training for new HGV drivers which is likely already being rushed unsafely.

That and, obviously, there is no real shortage aside from the artifical one caused by the same people who likely still have rolls of shitpaper leftover from last year.

>>69628

Not strictly true. Some companies are now so desperate for drivers that they offer to pay them quite large sums that many an office slave will struggle to make.

https://www. Please ban me/news/16162431/lorry-drivers-offered-mega-pay-deals/

(The Telegraph has the same story behind a paywall and DM links will only get the .gs mods in a huff, so we'll have to make do with a link to The Sun)

>>69632

I was genuinely unaware that Sun links are also frowned upon.

Apologies.

>>69633
Sooner of later a mod is going to wordfilter britfa.gs and it will be the end of us all.

>>69635

I think I tried something like that once and it did actually just break the ability to post.

>>69639
https://britfa.gs/shed/res/15246.html ?

Make sure you don't hoard more than 30 litres of petrol without telling the proper authorities:

https://www.hse.gov.uk/fireandexplosion/petrol-storage-club-association.htm

>>69642

You can (or could) buy 100 litre barrels of E85 off the internet, does that not count?

Ended up getting some LPG on the way home yesterday. No limit, and loads left. Give it a week and the only vehicles left on the road will be ancient V8s and the occasional one of hose Volvos they did that were LPG from the factory.

Every station I passed today had cones blocking the pumps. As I'm a normal person who only fuels up when I need to, I will very much be in trouble if I can't get some in the next couple of days. I can't fucking wait to queue up for half an hour to put £30 in.

>>69644

Also some old Japanese taxis, which are LPG-only.

>>69645

I'm also the kind of person who normally only gets petrol for ten to twenty quid. Thirty if I'm feeling frivolous. If my car's trip computer is to be believed, right now I've got fuel left in my tank for 70 miles. Although I've mainly done city driving the past few days or so, which tends to bring down the fuel range reading. A few miles on the M25 nearby would probably increase that number again.

>>69647
>A FEW MILES ON THE M25 NEARBY WOULD PROBABLY INCREASE THAT NUMBER AGAIN

Are insulate Britain still at it? Could be hilarious if people run out of fuel on the M25 thanks to them.

>>69648
Why would they choose to protest on the only road in the country a court injunction forbids them to?

>>69648

There were a couple of road block protests yesterday. One against upgrading an incinerator and one anti-vax or something. One on the M25, neither got into the major news.

>>69649
Shits and giggles.

>>69647

I usually fill about £30 or £40 at a time, I have a 105 litre tank in my car but running half empty nets me a couple of extra MPGS and all that, plus I just don't like spending that long brimming it.

But now if I do manage to find an open garage without a spending limit, I'm going to be inclined to fill the entire tank because of these issues. I realise this makes me part of the problem, but I'm not sure what else to do. My mum is getting quite anxious about the whole thing, as she needs to get to grandma's to do her shopping and stuff like that and its 20 minutes of town driving which really eats petrol.

I have never actually filled my car to the max, and I have been driving for 20 years. Come to think of it, I don't even know how I would know when it is full...

>>69653

> Come to think of it, I don't even know how I would know when it is full

Modern fuel nozzles have an auto shut off, i.e. they can detect when your tank is full. It's a fully mechanical system, so I guess it has to do with flow resistance.

>>69653

https://auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-efficiency/fuel-consumption/gas-pump-full-tank.htm

>Near the tip of the nozzle is a small hole, and a small pipe leads back from the hole into the handle. Suction is applied to this pipe using a Venturi. When the tank is not full, air is being drawn through the hole by the vacuum, and the air flows easily. When gasoline in the tank rises high enough to block the hole, a mechanical linkage in the handle senses the change in suction and flips the nozzle off.

>>69655

That little tidbit made my day, I fucking love mechanical systems.

>>69656
DID YOU CATCH THIS GEM?

>>69655

I wonder how informed about this the average forecourt worker is. Could a band of environmentalists shut down a petrol station for a considerable amount of time with just a few tiny balls of blu-tac or tape? (or whatever wouldn't quickly be melted by the residual petrol)

>>69657

I very much enjoyed this, also. much appreciated.

>>69655
Every now and then I've come across a dodgy pump where this doesn't work properly and keeps cutting off constantly when I'm nowhere near full.

>>69660

Still better than the other way round.

Although the system appears to be designed so that that's not possible.

A lot of machines and mechanical components are designed in such a way that they can fail one way, but not the other. For example, train locomotives have a foot switch that acts as a dead man's switch, in that the train driver must tap it with his foot every few seconds, and if he doesn't, the train will automatically brake to a halt. A faulty foot switch can then cause the train to stop anyway, but the train will not keep moving with the driver's foot off the switch.

Also, if like me you dabble in Arduino circuits for practical applications, a good circuit and code design will ensure that no harm comes from a failing component, and that your contraption goes dead altogether when a critical fault occurs. This is especially important if you deal with anything more than 12 volts, or indeed 230V AC.

>>69660

I think it has something to do with the shape of the nozzle or maybe even the force of the pump - on some pumps if I hold the trigger down fully, it's too fast and will spit fuel back up my tanks filler tube and thus cause the cut off. On others it works perfectly. Apparently a remedy to this is to put the pipe in upside down, but I refuse to do anything weird at a petrol station for fear of being shot by anti terror police.

This never worked in my old Celica. To stop it immediately clicking off, you had to hold the nozzle half way out of the filler neck and you knew the tank was full by the pitch of the liquid flow.

With LPG, it clicks off in a similar way but I'd guess that's probably to do with pressure differences.

>>69649
This aged well.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-58704508

>>69664
>The order, which was granted to National Highways Ltd, states demonstrators are banned from "causing damage to the surface of or to any apparatus on or around the M25 including but not limited to painting, damaging by fire, or affixing any item or structure thereto".
So the injunction just was against them spilling paint and gluing themselves to the road? That's daft.

I saw this on the way home today. Here was me resenting having to pay £1.42 per litre earlier elsewhere.

>>69666
That's the inevitable stage 3 of the panic. Fuel is absolutely fine, as it was, but we're now paying 40p more per litre just for a laugh.

A fuel campaigner has been inundated with phone calls from desperate motorists, after pranksters registered his home as a petrol station on Google Maps.

Users of the website saw a picture of a BP garage forecourt where Howard Cox’s house should have been, amid soaring demand for fuel In the UK. An unamused Mr Cox, who founded FairFuelUK – a group calling for cheaper petrol prices – received more than 70 calls from drivers hoping to fill up their tanks.

The move also appears to have polluted Mr Cox’s sense of humour, with the campaigner blaming ‘radical greens and cyclists’ for the stunt, which he branded ‘sick and puerile’. Clearly exhausted by the mischief, he blasted the ‘anti-car woke brigade’ in an effort to make their efforts backfire.

Motorists told the campaigner they were ‘desperate’ for fuel over the phone, before learning that his house was not in fact a petrol station open 24 hours a day.

https://metro.co.uk/2021/09/27/fuel-activist-is-furious-after-woke-trolls-list-his-home-as-a-petrol-station-15324615/

What will happen once everyone has all the petrol they need? If there's no actual shortage, then at some point the forecourts will be polared and they won't be able to give it away. The price is going to be up and down like Bitcoins over the coming weeks.

>>69669

>>69669

>What will happen once everyone has all the petrol they need?

Most people only have the 60 litres that will fit in their fuel tank. You can't normally store petrol in bulk, the way some people were playing silly buggers with their toilet paper stockpiling during ITZdown. Even if petrol demand is temporarily saturated, most people will come back for more in a week or two.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kkRX2p9wH4

>>69672

Tuesday: selfish idiot fills water bottles with petrol
Wednesday: water bottle woman is one of ARE NHS HEROES
Thursday: water bottle woman said something racist on Twitter in 2011
Friday: man filming water bottle woman is convicted carpet-bagger

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/bp-sparked-fuel-crisis-drive-153510932.html

The whole thing is a plot by BP (big petrol) to force the government's hand on cheap expat labour, because the invisible hand of the free market is wonderful until supply and demand goes the opposite way than they want.

>>69674
The whole panic was started by BP's PR company. It's a joke.

This message brought to you by the electric car manufacturer association.

>>69665
No, obviously not.

https://highwaysengland.co.uk/media/wcufrac5/national-highways-limited-v-persons-unknown-approved-order-21-09-21.pdf

>>69664
Unless they believe the injunction won't stand up, I don't really get it. Surely some of them are now headed to prison or the government will look completely impotent. They must be ready to accept that, but it just seems silly to voluntarily forfeit your freedom for no obvious gain.

>>69676
Quite surprised at the lack of Tesla/Musk trolling over it all.

>>69676

Don't start, they're already saying we might run out of lectric this winter. Presumably there aren't enough poles to run on the big hamster wheels or something.

It's a lot like that time in the 70s we all had to vote for thatcher to sort out the madness of fuel shortages and blackouts isn't it. Bloody lefties, ruining are economy.

>>69675
It was started by nadine dorries.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2021/sep/28/uk-fuel-crisis-health-services-companies-petrol-diesel-brent-crude-80-dollars-stock-markets-ftse-business-live

>Boris Johnson says the “petrol pump business” was caused by a “slightly misleading account” that was leaked, and caused a big, “totally understandable surge in public demand”.

>[he’s referring to reports that BP had told a meeting organised by the Cabinet Office that it planned to restrict deliveries of petrol and diesel to its service stations, due to a shortage of HGV drivers.]

>Johnson says the UK isn’t short of very many lorry drivers in the fuel sector, but there is a shortage in the wider HGV profession around the world.


Finally. We're saved!

>>69681
Why didn't he clarify last week? Why so late?

>>69682
BECAUSE HE WANTED THE CHAOS. IT'S ALL PART OF THE ELECTRIC CAR MASTER PLAN

>>69682
The Daily Mail did run that story last week.

ITZ!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_Y7GHXSYUw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf352A078MI

>>69685
I heard on the radio that someone pulled a knife on another motorist who tried to jump the queue. This was meant to be a terrible thing, but hey, don't jump the queue. We're British, by golly. It's just not cricket. Cut that fucker's head off.

>>69686

Like they say: 'jump the queuers, get thee skewered'.

I popped into Tesco earlier and the big wall when you come in is half bare and half stocked with toys, with massive signs above them about stocking up for Christmas early just in case.

>>69688
The corporate bigwigs must be laughing. They've realised they have to power to make Christmas come early and in doing so clear out the warehouses without the need for sales. Don't even get me started in Big Bird who have hammered the message that you simply MUST have a turkey for Christmas despite years of rising alternatives.

Remember these are the same people who devised the system that turns the customers into checkout workers who scan their own items for free and yet did nothing to expand actual capacity so you still have a long line for the self-service at rush hour.

Remember how funny it was when Americans were guarding Jerry cans with Ar-15s?

>>69689
>in doing so clear out the warehouses without the need for sales
I heard there're fast expiring stockpiles of fuel, and that's why panic buying was encoraged.

>>69689
You're not a social care worker just because you wipe your own arse.

>>69692
But I'm doing a public service when I wipe your mum's arse.

>>69693

Your mum's a public service.

In that case, we've all done a public service.