>>90480
He literally can't be the next President.

>>90481

He’s only had one term though, so he can run again.

>>90482

What otherlad means is that he can't be the 46th Prez if he wins another term, ya dingus.

>>90482
This man is going to be the next president of Mexico and it's going to be awesome.

His policies
-Build a wall with America
-Powerful toilets to deal with burrito logs
-Former American presidents are immune from prosecution

>>90482
Right, so if he loses he'll be able to run to be the next-but-one President.

>>90480
He'll win by a landslide, I think the rioting/looting/burning down buildings have generated many many more Trump supporters. People are fed up with groupthink being shoved down their throats and violence being tolerated if done under the banner of a certain cause.

>>90486

It sounds like the kind of argument only a simpleton would belive and therefore it will work

The glimpses of Biden's American bollocks. The magic trick of provoking an event and then acting like it is the provokeds fault entirely lost on the audience.

>>90486
That must be why he is polling so high!

>>90488

Doesn't matter. His crony in USPS is gutting it so that mail in ballots will be either lost, severely delayed or never sent out at all. Republicans generally vote in person and democrats are more likely to postal vote.

Add in other forms of voter suppression, gerrymandering, Biden being more visible/debates and you've got a very close race.

>>90489
I still can't believe this is going on, it's like there's no rule or law over there any more, or at least absolutely zero checks and balances. The most the country does it go "Yeah that was illegal to do" and then does fuck all about it. It's amazing and I can see why Boris wants the same here.

If he does lose the fortnight long meltdown will be a right laugh, once the shooting starts that's going to be rough.

He's made a pretty big cock up of everything recently, so I don't see it being an easy win for him. He won on a tide of contrarian populism, but populism is fickle and you have to stay, you know, popular. It's very hard for Trump to convincingly claim he did anything but make America's existing problems worse, let alone Great Again.

That said I'm finding it hard to see the postal vote conspiracy theorising and such as anything but the Democrats pre-emptively deflecting the blame should they lose, instead of admitting it was a mistake to put a geriatric paedophile up against him.

>>90489

>gerrymandering

That doesn't happen at that level based on how the Electoral College works. States don't lose and gain territory from each other readily. There are massive problems with the system that biases republican low pop states, but gerrymandering isn't one of them.

>>90492

americans have 5 second attention spans, by the time the election happens Covid will have been Obama's fault, and not a big deal thanks to Trump.

I think it's going to be terribly messy whatever the result. Biden wins and Trump may refuse to concede, blaming it on rigged postal votes. Trump wins and Biden may refuse to concede, blaming it on rigged Russian interference. I don't think it'll end in civil war, but I doubt it'll be smooth sailing for a long time.

>>90495
Of course Biden will concede, all the Democrats do is rollover for Republicans.

>>90480
We don't have a president, though?

>>90497
Our president is the American president, we are their most neglected territory.

>>90495
Concession is a convenience, nothing more. When the electoral votes are counted in the House in January, a final result is declared and stands. If that count doesn't go in Trump's favour, he stops being President on January 20th and there's nothing he can do about it.

>>90499
Yeah that, their law is pretty clear on this - but when Trump loses, he is going to bitch about it for years.

It sounds like the debate last night was an absolute shitshow.

>>90499
A significant number of Americans seem to believe he'll try to start a civil war before he leaves.

>>90539
It was incredibly bad - I stayed up to watch it; Trump is behaving like he knows he is losing and is determined to take the whole ship down with him. Awful behaviour.

>>90541
He can do what he likes; he's going to win anyway. We live in the cursed timeline.

>>90539

It didn't reflect well on either of them.

What do America have instead of a hung parliament?

Fuck it, I'll stick £20 on Trump. Does anyone know which site has the best odds on him?

>>90541
What's the saying? Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

>>90545
What about getting hand jobs from unintelligent escorts?

>>90545
Biden did a competent job of not arguing with him; he wasn't brilliant, but he wasn't bad either - as the leader in the race, it is still very much his to lose. He came across as reliable, if a bit boring.

Trump made absolutely no attempt to persuade undecided people or those in the middle-ground - certainly an interesting election strategy, we'll soon find out soon whether it will work. Up until now, I've always taken the cursed timeline/Trump will nick it view - but he is starting to look a lot like a loser.

I'm surprised Fred Perry haven't taken legal action against the so-called Proud Boys for blatantly using their logo.

>>90547
I find it hard to believe that after the past four years any reasonable person can be undecided. Then again, we are talking Americans here ...

>>90550
>we are talking Americans here

They are absolutely batshit insane. The number of Americans I've come across who have said they won't be voting has been mad, and after chatting with them I am convinced it'll be 2016 all over again. How is it that I, a foreigner, give more of a shit about their country and citizens than they do? How's that happened?

>>90551
>How is it that I, a foreigner, give more of a shit about their country and citizens than they do? How's that happened?

I think a lot of it is fatigue and reaching the point where you stop caring about what is going on because it is exhausting and only gets you down.

Also, what happens there influences what happens over here.

>>90551
Naturally it's mostly white people saying they won't be voting because Biden doesn't support <insert random policy here>. And they'll get mad when people blame them for Trump's victory, even though it was totally their fault.

>>90549
They have issued a statement about it. I suspect that the laurels are sufficiently different for them to get away with it.

>>90551
The last time the US had a presidential candidate worth voting for Neil Kinnock was having his speeches plagiarized. In a perverse sort of way it's entirely reasonable for Americans to tune out of their own politics.
I'm personally getting more optimistic about the prospects of what could get done if Biden wins, but for plenty of people it doesn't seem wrong for them to assess that their life is already terrible and that their choice in this election is between things getting worse quickly under Trump or getting worse slowly under Biden. If those are your options, why bother braving Coronavirus to vote or sending in a mail-in ballot that'll probably be shredded when Trump decides that he's not moving out?
Then there's the Trump voter side of the equation - those people with lives so shit that the best reason they can think to vote for a man is that he'll fuck up the lives of other people with shit lives who they don't like.

I'm not really sure how to wrap this up. Sparknotes version: Having reasonably sized groups of people with shit lives will fuck up your Democracy. It's not Biden's fault their lives are shit, but if he doesn't get them on the train to not-shit town you should bet all your money on the next insane clown the Republicans nominate.

>>90553
Perhaps we should dissolve the electorate and appoint a new one.

>>90554
Even the colour scheme is based off a Fred Perry shirt. They can't get enough of it.

>>90555

Haven't you noticed how little changes between presidents?

America is a democracy in name only, you can argue about precisely why that is for hours, but you can't argue it's not true. Whether you're a Bill Hicks type who thinks the President is just a powerless puppet figurehead, or you believe in slightly more grounded reasons like the senate always fucking everything up and the system being built around preserving the 200 year old ideals of the Republic, nothing ever really changes.

I can't blame Americans for tuning out because they know it's all but hopeless anyway. They also still have a lot more of that "fuck it, who needs the gubmint anyway" attitude than we do over here, where all but the daftest freeman on the land types know the government has a huge impact on everyone's life.

>>90555
To be fair, nothing really changes. You can have either party member as president, and it is always more or less the same. Might as well flip a coin before voting.

I don't understand the hate Trump gets. He is a bit loud and brash, but his policies are not that far out of step of what any other Republican president would do, or whatever a Democrat president would do.

>>90558
His optics are bad. He's a waffling, ridiculous, childish buffoon yet has none of the brains of Boris. And the 'wall' was a fucking terrible idea to start with.

>>90551
>How is it that I, a foreigner, give more of a shit about their country and citizens than they do? How's that happened?

My own view of it is, having visited the place many many times, and seen up close how poor the poor are (and how rich the rich are) there, is that it is difficult for us in the UK to understand the disparity between the rich and the poor in the US. Compared to us, they have no social security system whatsoever - witness last night Trump berating Biden for even suggesting better healthcare plans - they think the NHS is basically a communist idea. When you're poor or homeless in the US, you are FUCKED - there is no help; we complain about our system, but it's not until you see theirs up close that you realise how pretty brilliant much of our government and social support system is by comparison (note, I am not trying to defend ours). When you don't have healthcare, most hospitals won't even let you in the door.

They have an in-built mistrust of government, and on the face of it, their government and state structures do far far less for their citizens than ours does. I think this means that more people there just don't give the slightest fuck about who is in power, much as >>90555 says. We make the mistake of comparing it to our system.

>>90558
>I don't understand the hate Trump gets... his policies
aren't the only thing he gets hate for? He signalled to white nationalists that they should get ready to start a civil war against his political enemies last night, I don't really understand how you can see him as the cherub you appear to.

>>90558
Come off it, mate, Trump just told a far-right gang to "stand by" while he leans into the idea of the general election being stolen by voter fraud. I think every Republican and the lion's share of Democratic presidents were all scum, but the idea that Trump's no different and everything's the same as it ever was is a joke. I don't think politicians have done anything like that since the Klan was at it's zenith, let alone the president.

>>90561
>>90562
The "white nationalists" aren't anything new. Maybe he openly embraces them, but the fact is that Republics have always liked them, and are sure to throw them a bone every now and again. Would you classify the Birther movement, the Tea Part, QAnon, etc, as white nationalists? Because I would. These are all just the same thing calling themselves something else, which, at least the modern version of it, can be traced back to the "White Backlash" during Nixon's presidency. New versions of these groups always pop up every four or eight years since WW2.

In-fact, almost every republican president was a massive racist, and you can search for some of their racist quotes if you so wish. Nixon, and Reagan were massive racists. Lyndon B. Johnson would call civil rights legislation "nigger bills." Even Eisenhower and Roosevelt, heroes of WW2, were racists. The only difference is that Trump says the quiet parts very, very loudly.

Funny thing is - both Bush presidents don't have any sort of records of being overtly racist like every republican president. Although some of their policies were questionable, they come out looking good.

Give it ten years, and a new group will be born again. Trump is not that different to other republicans, in terms of his views, and his policies thus far. Which is why I think that he will win again.

>>90563
>Maybe he openly embraces them, but the fact is that Republics have always liked them
Well that makes it all okay then. Nobody else can differentiate between wanting to do something and doing it. Openly regressing is something that should just be ignored, who cares where it leads? There's no such thing as history, nothing ever actually changes, things have always existed in a vague stasis of the status quo.

>>90564
I haven't said anything of that sort, lad.

>>90563
>These are all just the same thing calling themselves something else
They really, really aren't.

>>90566
You are right. These newer versions are less prone to lynching.

Read up on US History. Biden isn't any better. In fact, he was softly against desegregation, and didn't want his kids to grow up in a "racial jungle." This was the 1970s. This is modern times.

This isn't something new. These racist groups aren't something new. These aren't weird times we are living in. It is just a continuation. I hope it stops happening, but that will take decades, if not a century.

>>90565
You're absolutely playing it down.

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Funny how the moderator of the debate was desperate for Trump to denounce mythical "white supremacists" white failing to ask Biden to denounce the Antifa/BLM far-left nutcases who have been running riot, looting and trashing restaurants while screaming at people to "show solidarity" to them like some sort of Maoist cult, but whatever lads, keep telling us how you're on the "right side of history".

>>90569
I can see the steam coming out of your ears from here.

>>90572

Whatever mate, keep sucking off black criminals and crying about JK Rowling for "genociding trans folx", if that's what makes you feel good about yourself.

>>90573
You aren't even an American. How did you become like this?

>>90568
I am not. I don't like the superficial gloss on everything nowadays. Corporations with their fake support of social movements. Governments and their "let's have a woman CEO," and the pure nonsense of "Biden is better than Trump." When you look at it closely, it is more or less the same, whichever direction you peek at.

>>90574

How did you become a sad lefty tosser who pats himself on the back for posting a black square on Instagram while cheering on mobs smashing up statues and having a teary because some Yank criminals got shot? You people are so full of self-hatred it's hilarious.

(A good day to you Sir!)

>>90576
I haven't done any of those things. YankWannabeLad.

>>90567
Go home bothsideslad, you're drunk.

>>90573

You're embarrassing yourself.

>>90579

I have absolutely zero interest in this thread but I just wanted to butt in and point out that you literally can't embarrass yourself on an anonymous image board unless you care about the detailed psychological profiles the mods build on each and every one of us. .

>>90480

I feel i should leave this here.

>>90581

Oh yes, and Biden and Pelosi for the geriatric ward, 2020.

>>90581

GREAT SUCCESS! JAGSHEMASH!

>>90581
>The [intelligence community] does not know the accuracy of this allegation or the extent to which the Russian intelligence analysis may reflect exaggeration or fabrication.

There's nothing new in this - the (Republican-majority) Senate committee was already given this information as part of its Russia probe, and considered it not credible.

>>90582
How's the weather in Leningrad this morning? Is it still 5 rubles a post?

>>90581
It's like the Steele dossier all over again, and just as accurate.

I am baffled, utterly baffled, by the people who have been calling this man an existential threat to American democracy and humanity at large who are now wishing him a swift recovery. I hope he fucking dies.

>>90593
Take a deep breath, mate.

>>90594
Huh?

>>90593
The trouble is that a big part of the reason Biden is favoured to win right now is the anti-Trump sentiment among Republicans. If Trump dies, that goes away, and a vote for the Republican ticket is a vote for the much more conventional Mike Pence. That'll be the insurance policy that Republicans in Congress (particularly the Senate) will have been counting on.

>>90593
It is what it is.

>>90597
... It'll happen to youuuuu!

>>90598
I think I misread your post.

>>90596
I take issue with this idea of yours, these "anti-Trump Republicans". You also speak as if media personalities will somehow manifest Trump's death if they point out that doing stupid things can lead to ill-consequences.

So, in pragmatic terms, which candidate is the best for Britain?

It seems a popular tune that a Biden win would signal that we would not be getting any significant trade priority and the democrats are especially plastic-paddy which could pose problems. Boris also seems to have a personal relationship with Trump that we'd lose with Biden - I'm sure Kim Jong-Un would feel the same.

>If Mr. Biden wins in November, Britain would face a president who opposed Brexit, would look out for the interests of Ireland in a post-Brexit Europe, and would have little motive to prioritize an Anglo-American trade deal. His former boss, President Barack Obama, once warned Britons that if they left the European Union, they would put themselves at the “back of the queue” in any trade talks with the United States.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/31/world/europe/britain-biden-presidency-johnson.html

Accepting of course that the only correct course of action is to crush the upstart rebels and exile the tyrannous regime to a footnote in a history Britain shall write.

>>90599
I was actually trying to respond to a lad in the other thread who said he liked to see old people die. Clearly both I and .gs had a senior moment, as it wouldn't let me delete my post. Unless my IP had changed in the intervening ten seconds there might be something up with the site.

>>90601

>So, in pragmatic terms, which candidate is the best for Britain?

It makes very little difference. We've never been an ally to the Yanks, only a vassal. We'll let them park their fighter jets here, we'll operate their nuclear early-warning radar, we'll give them a direct line to GCHQ, we'll follow them into whatever nonsense wars they start and we'll take any trade deal they offer us. Our relationship has hardly changed since 1917 and it's unlikely to change much in future.

>>90600
>I take issue with this idea of yours, these "anti-Trump Republicans".
I take issue with your taking issue with it, because they very fucking obviously exist in sufficient numbers to put states in play that have no business whatsoever being in play.

>>90603
Okay, De Gaulle. But that very little difference may impact us - we have trade offs in either option.

>>90601

The pragmatic thing for Britain to do is fuck the Yanks off, they don't offer us much in return for the bending over backwards we do for them, and if we think they're coming to help us if we get attacked we're just kidding ourselves frankly.

The news this morning that many of his campaign staff are affected too, will throw his campaign out the window and dull many of his attack lines on Biden "hiding".

I briefly yesterday considered the idea that this could be faked and all part of some seven-dimensional chess game he is playing, but it's clear that there is nothing of the sort, and this is just karma rearing its ugly head. There is something delicious in the super spreader event probably being last Saturday where he appointed/announced the proposed replacement for Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

No way back in the campaign for him now. He has fucked it. I expect the next thing to be calls to delay the election if it gets bad, but I can't see the Democrats going for that in a million years.

>>90604
Donald Trump's words and actions are the Republican Party.

>>90607
>The news this morning that many of his campaign staff are affected too, will throw his campaign out the window
Not just his staff.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/02/gop-donors-panic-after-coming-close-to-trump-at-fundraiser-hours-before-positive-covid-19-test.html

>>90607
>but I can't see the Democrats going for that in a million years.

You underestimate how spineless the Democratic Party is.

>>90610
I actually meant it the other way; why would they back down from an election now, all their Christmases have come at once.

The only narrative where Trump benefits from this is if he recovers (perfectly) in about seven days, and so do all the other infected people around him; particularly if he is being used as a guinea pig for experimental drugs. That's about the only way I can see Trump getting any "win" out of the current situation, and all other possible outcomes look terrible for him.

>>90611
>why would they back down from an election now

Why did they back down from nominating a supreme court justice in 2016? They consistently make concessions and displays of propriety that the Republicans have no intention of reciprocating.

>>90625
>Why did they back down from nominating a supreme court justice in 2016?

They didn't back down in this universe. The senate was majority Republican so Obama's nomination, one the senate leader was explicit he would not accept, was never going to be approved. The difference this time is that the Republicans control the Senate and Whitehouse which is the norm as far as SC nominations go aside from it being an election year.

The problem the nominee faces at the moment is if a few Republican senators agree that this should be decided after the election.

>>90630
Alright I looked it up, found this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurmond_rule

and it seems you're correct - it goes both ways. My bad.

>>90630
Given what we know about the nominee, and the value to the hard right in effectively having control of the court for a generation, here's how I see things playing out.

Underlying assumptions:
* The policy reasons for getting control of the court are unpopular. The majority of the public support gun control, abortion, campaign reform, voting rights, etc.
* The Republicans are going to lose big in the Senate. There are about a dozen opportunities for Democrats to gain seats, and the expectation is that they'll flip at least half of them. They need four to guarantee control, and they're odds-on to get at least that.
* Trump and Pence both survive (literally) until January. One of them dying changes the dynamic considerably, and if they both kick it then everything goes out the window.
* The various attempts at voter suppression do not prevail. I mean, I don't know how solid this one is, but ultimately the effects this could have are so wide-ranging as to make prediction practically impossible.

First decision point: Before or after the election.
If they do it before the election, they can argue their mandate, but they'll almost certainly be annihilated at the ballot box as the voters reject them. The Democrats might even hit 60 seats.

Next decision point: Proceed after the election or not.
If they wait until after the election, they can offer it up as an election pledge in the hope of increasing turnout from their more conservative supporters. But this presents them with the situation of trying to fill the seat after having lost their mandate to do so. The value of filling that seat might well outweigh the damage this could do to their careers.

Final decision point: Expanding the Court.
When the Democrats take control of Congress in January, if they consider that two of the seats were stolen and the other filled with a political operative, they may decide to introduce legislation expanding the Court to as many as 15. If a Democratic President then gets to replace Thomas and Alito and decides to follow Trump's lead and not maintain the balance, that's potentially an 11-4 split. They could potentially then prevent a Republican President from appointing justices by reducing the size of the Court, which in practice would mean that the next justices to leave would simply not be replaced.

>>90662
>They need four to guarantee control, and they're odds-on to get at least that.

Your analysis is excellent.

But one thing perhaps - how many senators were at the Rose Garden last Saturday, and part of the super spreading event? I believe so far the number is 3 positives (Mike Lee, Thom Tillis and Ron Johnson). Two of those are part of the Judicial committee, which I understand has to hold the confirmation hearing; if they're sick for the next few weeks, that could affect matters.

Otherwise agree with all you say, whether they force this through or not, they'll almost certainly lose Senate seats in the election, and pave the way for a Democrat-held legislature to wreak revenge and stuff the court with their own judges.

Having judges being voted on, and part of the political system seems very strange to us I think.

Funny.

Look everyone, it's the President!

>>90712
Like what the actual fuck all over again? Who pops out the hospital when contagious for a drive around the block?

>"It’s been a very interesting journey - I learned a lot about Covid.

>I learned it by really going to school. This is the real school.

>This isn’t the ‘let’s read the book’ school. And I get it. And I understand it.

>And it’s a very interesting thing, and I’m going to be letting you know about it."

He's totally doolally. Those aren't the words of a demagogue, they're the words of an elderly man with full-blown dementia. He doesn't know what's going on and he's too far gone to realise it. Every aspect of Trump's response since the start of the epidemic is explained by one simple fact - his mind is too addled to actually take it in.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1312864232711520257

>>90714
Doesn't sound mental to me. Sounds a lot like what I would say if I were in the Plandemic camp.

>>90714
He's going somewhere?

He... He's going to go to a rally, isn't he? Well, I guess he won this election now then.

>>90716
He is going to check himself out of hospital tomorrow and then try and resume normal duties, infecting everyone along the way.

>>90608
Which is why a lot of those anti-Trump Republicans are straight-up abandoning it.

You also have the likes of the Lincoln Project, which is run by some of the worst people you could imagine but the man's too much even for them.

>>90714

I've read interviews with him from 20 years ago and the difference is startling. He was actually insightful at times and could produce a decent turn of phrase, whereas watching his public appearances now makes the cognitive decline evident.

>>90719
That's the thing about both Trump and Biden which is a bit mental really - they're both in their fucking mid-seventies. I have hung out with many blokes in their seventies, and as you say that can still be charming, sometimes wise and interesting, but never exactly "on it" and certainly not all day long.

>>90720
True, but the average 70-year-old has already been letting their brain idle for a while. I would expect people at the top levels of government to retain their faculties for longer (barring actual Alzheimer's, like Reagan). Sanders for example is 79 and still pretty sharp.

>>90721
Depends what they're doing, I suppose. You can easily snooze your way through being a backbencher for example, but if you're actively researching, crafting and presenting policy then it might a different matter. Certainly I've met a few 70 year-olds that would cruise through the Times crossword in ten minutes before starting their work for the day, and they made an explicit choice to be as mentally active as possible.

Even if the polls were as wrong as they were last time, Biden is still on course to win with over 300 electoral college votes.

Trump will be embarrassed by the margin.

>>90723
Ah, but have you considered pic related?

Also his stymying of the postal vote, the shutting down of voting sites in Democrat leaning areas and possible interference by far-right gangs?

>>90724
He was in a bad position before his stunts of the last seven days; he has made it worse. The only people who admire what he has said and done over the last week are his core base of voters - white males without a college degree, who are disproportionately represented on some bits of the internet, which you might also be reading - the rest of America is utterly horrified by it.

It was a close election, it is now into landslide territory. Trump isn't going to just squeeze a win like he did last time, he is going to lose badly, by a large margin.

>>90723
I think it may be much closer than that. I mean, in a free and fair election, the Dems would sweep the board - 350 EV Presidency, 60-seat Senate, 100-seat House majority. But the GOP have been trying all sorts of fuckery to avoid that happening. Among the latest tactics is an order in Texas reducing the number of authorised locations for dropping off postal votes to one in each county - these are in addition to postboxes (which are also being taken away), but with the advantage that they bypass the postal system (which is currently in a stage of severe fuckulation).

Biden's going to refuse to disband ICE and they're going to gun him down like Sadat anyway.

>>90736
The polls also showed that Hillary had a 98% chance of victory in 2016. Lets just wait and see and not make sweeping statements like "Landslide victory" as they may come back to bite.

>>90742

>The polls also showed that Hillary had a 98% chance of victory in 2016.

Nate Silver called it 71/29 in favour of Clinton, but that's rather besides the point. Apart from professional gamblers, human beings have awful intuitions about statistics - we mentally round small probabilities to zero and large probabilities to one, but there is a world of difference between "overwhelmingly likely" and "absolutely certain".

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

>>90744
That video is so well observed - Trump and his style of rhetoric perfectly fits the late-night infomercial format.

He's going down in flames.

>>90848

I want whatever drugs he's on.

Lads, what's your take on the potential for a red mirage and its after-effects? The idea is that as democrats are much more liable to postal vote, particularly in this election, it may initially be called for Trump only for it to later swing to Biden as those votes are tallied. Votes that Trump has spent months calling into question.

Both Biden and Trump are viewed as unlikely to concede in this scenario with extremists taking to the streets and more (see: planned kidnapping of Michigan's governor). The Supreme Court has previously ruled in contested elections with the most recent seeing its conservative majority refusing another recount during the Bush-Gore election but that could easily be called into question. The result would be at a minimum the tumbling of the US market and the loss of legitimacy in the US President.

>>90871
>the loss of legitimacy in the US President.

But would that mean anything in practice? Accountability is all but dead now; politicians can do whatever they want and nobody will stop them.

>>90871
I think if the polls get closer in distance, that scenario is a distinct possibility. The last hurdle for Biden is the debate tomorrow night. Unless he actually faints, throws up or falls over, he can just stand there, say nothing and let Trump rant. But while the polls are consistently showing a > 10% lead, time is running out for Trump and I think it will be quite clear cut on the night.

I don't think Trump will concede in any event, but I think the margin of his loss will be great enough that while there might be moaning, drama and extremism for 48 hours, it will pass.

So this would explain why Giuliani is throwing the kitchen sink at this election. Hand down pants. Pranked by Borat.

>>90873

>I don't think Trump will concede in any event, but I think the margin of his loss will be great enough that while there might be moaning, drama and extremism for 48 hours, it will pass.

I think you're underestimating the fanaticism of Trump's base and the volatility of America right now. I think it's highly likely to get extremely ugly in the red states, but (much like the BLM protests) I don't think that unrest will actually change anything of substance in D.C.

Most of the Republican establishment never wanted Trump and will be glad to see the back of him, which is why I think that a) the political transition will be noisy but straightforward and b) Trump's marginalised base will feel really, really marginalised. There will be riots, there might be an assassination or two, some bonkers militias will declare a free state and get killed in a gunfight with the feds, but it'll amount to nothing and it'll be mostly forgotten about by next summer.

>>90875
>I think you're underestimating the fanaticism of Trump's base and the volatility of America right now.

I'm really not - and if it's a close election, we'll see ugliness abound. There is also the factor that Trump won't take a loss lying down, he has plenty of room over the interim three months to be spiteful, angry and to aggravate people into misbehaving. I just don't think it will be a close election. I think Trump knows that too, which is why we're seeing him so angry this week.

At this point, I am starting to think he WANTS to lose.

Check out the picture on the bottom right - why present a journalist with a 2500 page "blank" binder. It's sociopathic.

>>90877
Apparently his account got compromised again and they failed to delete his account again.

Prediction: Trump to win like Reagan in 1994

The black vote was 8 percent in 2016. It's now 20 percent and climbing. A 25 percent black vote for Republican will destroy the Democrat vote, this brother giving the facts.

>>90879
Very affluent black men often like Trump; he is similar to them in terms of aspirational new money. He has very little black female support. The black vote generally tends to split 80/20 in favour of democrats.

It is white women who will knock Trump out. They are voting in droves to get rid of him.

>>90880

How do you know It's very affluent black men? Do you have some stats on this? I'd be interested to take a look.

A mate I used to work with said he thinks It's younger blacks who have taken to Trump, with Kanye going off on his entertaining rants and all. I couldn't comment though. Yanks are a mystery to me.

Oh this is hilarious.

Donald has called in the cunt-cavalry.

Just when you think you're used to the mendacity, he says that doctors get more money by naming somone as a COVID-19 death.

>>90879

>>90964
Seems like a good bet.

I'm going to enjoy Fox News going DONALD WHO? over the next couple of months.

>>90964
I'd one-up you and bet Texas but if there's one thing .gs is known for its losing me money.

>>90966
Should have followed my horse tips on /spo/. You'd have made a fortune.

>>90966
Texas isn't going blue this time. The Republicans collaborated on setting up COVID-safe drive-through polling but are now apparently planning to sue to get those votes excluded so they can ensure they win.

>>90968
Why on earth do you care about the US elections?

Trump landslide. Black vote was 8 percent 2016. 20 percent early this year and growing. A 25 percent black turnout for Trump will smash it.

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>>90970
... And why would black people be voting for Trump now, exactly?

>>90971

>... And why would black people be voting for Trump now, exactly?

FACTS

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>>90972
> fbclid
Oh dear, poor you.

Trump knows he has lost.

>>91038
In the same way saville was admitting defeat at 2am on the morning of the 24th of June, 2016.

>>91038

He looks absolutely broken.

>>91046
Narcissists don't do broken, at least not that kind.

>>91046
It was very interesting to see him at the campaign headquarters earlier, particularly the point where he said he didn't like losing. I've a theory that in defeat, he'll look more human and more likeable than we've seen in the past four years.

Maybe he is human, after all.

>>91048

The clip in question:

I've never seen him look so despondent and exhausted. It's like his batteries have gone flat.

>>91049
> I've never seen him look so despondent and exhausted. It's like his batteries have gone flat.

The Illuminati are reducing his supply of adrenochrome now that the smart money's on Biden.

I'm joking mods, don't ban me.

>>91050
>don't ban me

It's alright, but I might ban the people who keep making new threads about the election.

I'm designating this the election thread.

I think Trump's winning it.

>>91049
Long Covid.

The coverage on the Beeb is the most openly classist, racist and ultimately braindead shit I've seen in my life. Not a single mention of policies or even personalities, just constant bafflement that the Democrats can't turn out a vote with no attention paid to their dead-end, nihilism-with-a-smile politics. It's so fucking creepy.

>>91064

The BBC have been like this for years. Still not quite as prone as the Guardian for making shit up to fit their narrative.

>>91065
What are you talking about? I wasn't accusing the BBC of making things up and that's clearly not what the Guardian is reporting. The Guardian doesn't "make things up" or it would be regularly apologising on the quiet. If you have any examples of made up Guardian stories I'd love to see it, but I don't expect you do.

I think you're a stinky far-rightist and should GET RAPED!

>>91066

You seem upset lad. Also Florida has just gone to Trump. I just read it on the Guardian.

>>91067
>You seem upset
Not really, you're just a liar and you should GET CANCER! Liars aren't really people so I don't care about you or your life. I realised Trump was going to win about an hour ago, keep up.

>>91068

If it helps I despise Trump as much as Biden. I was actually secretly hoping for a cheeky Biden victory. He'd be dead within a year and the septics would get a Harris / Clinton presidency. The tears would be delicious.

>>91069
People who say things like "the tears would be delicious" are usually twats, so I see my first impressions were accurate! You sound intellectually stunted and lacking imagination.

>>91070

You are correct. And yet with my meagre intellectual capacity I have somehow managed to make you cry. And I find that funny.

>>91071
Why would I be upset? I immediately called out your lying about The Guardian, clocked you for a wrong'un and you've only confirmed my assumptions since.

>>91072

Morrissey would disagree with you about the Guardian and I trust him more than you m7.

>>91073
The elderly, fat, racist, emo? Yeah, feel free, I won't be taking it personally. Good night, try not to piss the bed!

>>91074

Rekt so hard his nan cried. Bahahahaha

(A good day to you Sir!)

>>91074

Fuck me this is an embarrassing cunt off lads. This is what happens when you let american culture seep into your head, you run out of wit.

Looking interesting. Trump appears to be narrowly winning some key states, but postal votes take longer to count. We may well end up in a situation where Trump can proclaim 'victory', be scuppered at the last moment by postal votes and then claim skulduggery about the number of votes that didn't occur in person. It will be interesting times indeed if he refuses to accept defeat.

>>91077

Why waste wit on someone who clearly fancy's himself and enjoys the smell of his own farts?

>>91078

Apparently it's all down to Texas and postal votes. All the media are being super cautious so I doubt they'll announce anything unless they are pretty damn sure.

Vegas odds have flipped and Biden is now the underdog in the betting market. Vegas now gives Trump 2:1 odds of winning

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Please don't ban me, I'm not actually a Russian bot.

Biden needs to win Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

Biden voters are much more likely to vote by mail than Trump supporters. Trump has called mail-in voting fraudulent, despite evidence that it is quite safe.

According to a Philadelphia election official they're receiving about 16 Democratic mail-in ballots for every one Republican postal ballot.

>>91083
Around 350k outstanding postal votes in Philadelphia right now, and about the same number in Pittsburgh. Philadelphia has given up for the night.

>>91085

Wisconsin says there's no way they are announcing a winner tonight. Michigan needs until Friday. Pennsylvania isn't coming out anytime soon, either. This is going to get tedious.

>>91085>>91086
Lazy sods, these American vote counters.

>>91087

The Yank dossers need a few Geordies, they'd have the count done by now.

In California, Uber and Lyft's attempt to buy favourable law through the ballot box appears to be succeeding.

Cunts.

The first lawmaker born in the 1990s has been elected. It's nice to see that he's taken his victory with maturity and magnanimity.

Fox News has just projected Donald Trump will win Ohio and Texas.

>>91090

I will never sufficiently understand americans enough to not be taken aback by stuff like this.

Running through 270towin's map things and it looks like the key states that will decide it are - surprise, surprise - Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Looks like this one really is set to run.

Just woken up, what's the crack? From reading the BBC website it seems to be suggesting that Trump is going to win.

>>91094

I'm about 15 cups of tea in, and I'm just about to roll my ninth spliff. I've also eaten up all of the fridge so now I have to go to tesco. ffs.

>>91095
I wouldn't eat a fridge. It'll play havoc with your innards.

ITZ

HAPPENING

Apparently liberal race baiting doesn't work so well on Hispanics. Probably because they're thickos and smell.

Trump's non-concession speech might be the most comically incoherent one he's ever given.
Maybe I'm just tired but I'm just laughing at the bits of it I remember

Was Gorka an out Q person before? His name's familiar but I don't really know who he is.

Sleepy Joe has been declared the winner of Arizona. It's getting uncomfortably close Trumps still gonna win. I just wish they'd hurry up so I can go to bed.

>>91101
Doesn't the counting go on for days?

saville on the BBC: "it's widely known the UK Labour Party does vote harvesting of ethnic minorities". Not even a hint of pushback, completely unchallenged.

>>91090
The hardcore, full-speed-ahead, suicide-capatalists won in 2016, everywhere, everything that's looked like a fight since then has just been their consolidation of power.

>Mr Biden appears to have increased Democrat support among white voters in Florida, but Mr Trump made big gains among Latinos compared with his 2016 performance.

its dem cubans wot won it


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-ZwOfaTMBc

>>91102
Yeah it does - like every other presidential election they have ever had. Trump is trying to short circuit that process because he knows he loses if every vote is counted.

>>91105
There was something on the BBC earlier that said lots of Cubans and Venezuelans won't vote Democrat because of it being painted as supporting socialism.

The Prison Planet idiot just said "Fuck this inauthentic bitch" about Ben Shapiro. I don't care what the context is I'm here for that.

>>91108
He criticised Trump for claiming victory.

https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1323890527767416834

>>91109
I know I just don't care. The more those weirdoes fall out with each other the better.

>>91110
You do realise this is just evidence that America is becoming further and further unmoored from reality, not some kind of rightist reckoning? If King Ghidorah shows up and eats the T-Rex that's chasing you you're still done for.

>>91111
The Prison Planet dweeb is British.

>>91112
Oh, that cunt. He's a pseudo-American, like that Hbomber lad. Not trying to "all sides" it, but they've both gone native.

Wish I had some pink wafers right now.

>>91113
Fine. Still, if I'm going to be eaten by T-rexes or whatever weeb monsters you want to reference, I'd rather they'd be killing each other as they do it. Fuck 'em.

I have no idea why you lads care about these non-entities.

>>91115
Idle boredom, no need to virtue signal about it lad.

>>91107
Cubans have historically voted Republican because in their eyes it was the Democrats that failed to curb Castro in the 1960s.

Caught this on Auntie's website earlier. Thought you might like it.

Have they made up their minds yet?

>>91122
Around 60 million people have decided they're okay with fascism so far, so I guess so.

>>91114
Righto.

>>91115
King Ghidorah is a highly important figure, having predicted six of the last seven US elections and subsequently eaten five of the losing candidates.

>>91122
Not yet.

>>91122
It doesn't look like it'll be known for days as there's millions of postal votes still to be counted, plus the loser will almost certainly mount a legal challenge.

If the counting was being done in a leisure centre in Sunderland we'd have known who wins by now.

>>91126
>the loser will almost certainly mount a legal challenge

I think it's obvious who won, but given he has been telegraphing it for the last couple of weeks, they're taking their time to stop the legal challenge having any effect.

>>91120
>America decides it's fat
I thought everyone knew that?

>>91128
They had previously declared for "big boned". The Overton window is ever shifting.

Poor the Donald. He looks so sad.

Paula White, Trumps "spiritual advisor" here.

Religious people are completely normal, and this is a totally normal way to behave. If I were Biden, I would be worried.

>>91158
I've said it before and I'll say it again; this is not Christianity. It's merely a syncretic religion that worships wealth, the Stars and Stripes and, as of 2016, Donald Trump.

>>91158
I wonder if anyone in that room has a problem with all those angelic reinforcements coming over from Africa and South America.

Biden has been projected to win Michigan, and has actually won Wisconsin (as in they've literally counted every single vote there).

It's over. Biden 46, Harris 47 (because he probably won't make a full term).

>>91161
Stop the vote!
Count that vote!