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>> No. 91916 Anonymous
15th January 2021
Friday 1:42 pm
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So...

Has there been one single actual advantage of Brexit yet?
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>> No. 96033 Anonymous
19th June 2022
Sunday 7:24 pm
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>>96032
The pound was at $2.05 in October 2007, though it was at $1.55 in the wake of the 2015 election. From there, it slipped to $1.45 through the referendum campaign, and when the results started coming in it hit an intraday low somewhere in the low 20s. It briefly broke through $1.40 in mid-2020 and again in mid-2021, but it's currently sitting around $1.20. One could argue that the whole post-COVID recession is having an effect, but in a global crisis you'd expect the dollar to also fall leading to very little change between the two. I don't know if we can pin it all on Brexit, but it's noteworthy that the last time the pound was over $1.50 was the early hours of 24 June 2016 when the expectation was that Remain might still win. It hasn't come close to that value since.
>> No. 96085 Anonymous
29th June 2022
Wednesday 8:32 am
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I'm guessing it's Brexit related, but it's impossible to get carrots recently that aren't going off after a few days. Often they've started going a bit mushy at the tip when they're still in the shop.
>> No. 96086 Anonymous
29th June 2022
Wednesday 3:07 pm
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>>96085
I think that's because they get pumped full of water, rather than going off at all. I've been having this issue for months and they absolutely are all horrifically watery. I've been tempted to try roasting them to see if that dries them out a bit, but I am no chef.
>> No. 96088 Anonymous
30th June 2022
Thursday 12:03 pm
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A lot of the cost of living Crisis is being blamed on Ukraine or Brexit or whatever but the profit-inflation spiral was predicted and studied in detail by Nobel Prize winning Japanese Ecinomist Yakamoto Futunari as far back as 2011.

Google Futunari Inflation to learn more.
>> No. 96089 Anonymous
30th June 2022
Thursday 12:06 pm
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>>96088

It'd help if you spelled Futanari correctly.
>> No. 96090 Anonymous
1st July 2022
Friday 7:04 am
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>>96089

Thanks fellow economistlad
>> No. 96508 Anonymous
24th July 2022
Sunday 11:43 am
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_DTdX7qHy0

Liz Truss doing some of the finest Post-Brexit gaslighting I've seen yet.
>> No. 96512 Anonymous
24th July 2022
Sunday 2:37 pm
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>>96508
Even if she's absolutely right, I still don't give a shit and think it's hilarious. Perhaps the French should just not have anyone on the border and make all English visitors come in via Rwanda?
>> No. 96515 Anonymous
24th July 2022
Sunday 3:03 pm
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>>96508
>>96512

I don't think this is the kind of controversy negative Jimmy remoaners want it to be. What kind of unpatriotic traitor wants to go to France anyway? And if you do, serves you right, I don't see why we should guarantee you getting back in.

Brick up the Eurotunnel as fas as I'm concerned, if we'd had any sense we would have built it to the southern coast of Spain instead.
>> No. 97282 Anonymous
24th November 2022
Thursday 4:14 pm
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>UK net migration hits all-time record at 504,000

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63743259

I bet the Brexiteers are fuming.
>> No. 97283 Anonymous
24th November 2022
Thursday 4:20 pm
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>>97282

It's interesting that while 73,000 people crossed the channel in small boats, 76,000 people came over from Hong Kong under the resettlement scheme. Did anyone notice the latter? Could it be that the problem isn't the number of immigrants, but the competence of the Home Office?
>> No. 97284 Anonymous
24th November 2022
Thursday 4:33 pm
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>>97283

Or perhaps it could be that, like every other Tory promise, there was never any intention of even vaguely attempting to do anything like they said they would, at all, in the first place? Least of all bring down migration and let all those potential taxpayers go somewhere else.

It's just like building new hospitals, having a high-speed rail link to the North, "levelling up", whatever that was meant to mean, it's all been complete and total bullshit for the past decade. Bare faced lies.

This is pretty much laissez-faire governance in action, except for the part where they keep giving massive handouts to private businesses.
>> No. 97285 Anonymous
25th November 2022
Friday 4:36 am
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>>97283
I suspect it's more to do with the colour of their skin. We can tolerate a bit of yellow from a place we used to own, but apparently the black and brown lot can quite literally get in the sea.

Though we absolutely 100% should abolish the Home Office.
>> No. 97286 Anonymous
25th November 2022
Friday 5:16 am
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>>97285

73,000 people is a lot to literally wash up on the beaches of small towns on the south coast, but it's basically nothing in relation to the population of Britain. The thing that interests me about the Hong Kongers isn't so much that nobody is bothered, but that nobody even knows they're here. I was talking about this with some colleagues and there was a slight sense of disbelief - all those people arrived in the country from Hong Kong, but there was no real sign of their existence.

I'm imagining an alternate reality in which the Home Office were actually on top of their brief. Asylum seekers could apply at a processing centre in Paris, cross the channel on the Eurostar, and immediately be housed in suitable accommodation in the UK. Their claims would be efficiently processed so that they could either start settling in their new lives in the UK or be deported back to their country of origin within a matter of weeks. In that reality, would anyone care about asylum? Would anyone even notice that it was a thing?

I used to suspect that the Home Office were deliberately shit at handling asylum seekers for opportunistic political reasons, but after the Manston fiasco I'm starting to think that they're just shit.
>> No. 97287 Anonymous
25th November 2022
Friday 6:48 am
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>>97283
>Did anyone notice the latter?

Migrants tend to form enclaves, e.g. Iraqi Kurds are concentrated in Hull because that's where Whitehall sent them, so the Hong Kongers are probably all in flats in parts of London as they've generally got money. I'm sure people would be complaining about them if they'd been sent to fill up hotels up and down the country like the boat people have.
>> No. 97288 Anonymous
25th November 2022
Friday 7:34 am
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>>97286

I doubt anyone would notice the boat migrants if the shitrags didn't make such a fuss about them. Something of a similar scale happening and nobody noticing seems unbelievable because they make such a big deal out of it otherwise. It just demonstrates the ability of the press to skew perceptions. That's on top of what you've said there, not instead of.
>> No. 97289 Anonymous
25th November 2022
Friday 10:47 am
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>>97285

Brexiteers gonna brexit (Reform party will beat lib dems next election, you heard it here first!) and remoaners gonna re-moan (and call brexiteers racists).

The circles just go round and round.
>> No. 97290 Anonymous
25th November 2022
Friday 11:35 am
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>>97287
I was in Manchester city centre last weekend, and was shocked at the invading hordes of Chinese people everywhere. Maybe they were actually all from Hong Kong?

I still haven't met a single Ukrainian. Not one. Someone shared something on Facebook about two blonde Ukrainian sisters in their early 20s who need a new host family until the war is over, but I know a scam when I see one.
>> No. 97291 Anonymous
25th November 2022
Friday 11:44 am
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>>97290
Seeing East Asian looking people in Manchester is about unremarkable as seeing pigeons there. Was it your first time there or something?
>> No. 97292 Anonymous
25th November 2022
Friday 2:02 pm
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>>97290

My mum was asked by one of her bigoted, incessantly virtue-signalling neighbours if she couldn't take in some Ukrainians, given that she's got her whole house to herself these days.

My mum is getting more frail every day, and she already needs loads of help from me and NHS carers to be able to stay in her house. The last thing she is able to do is be the host for a group of foreign war refugees.

Not saying that Ukrainians like that don't desperately need our help, but you kind of get the feeling that taking in Ukrainian refugees is now the new eating vegan or driving an EV.
>> No. 97293 Anonymous
25th November 2022
Friday 2:27 pm
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>>97292
I don't think anyone was expecting elderyly women with several health conditions to house Ukrainian families, m8. What are you even talking about? Did an AI write this or are you just weird?
>> No. 97294 Anonymous
25th November 2022
Friday 2:46 pm
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>>97285

>I suspect it's more to do with the colour of their skin. We can tolerate a bit of yellow from a place we used to own, but apparently the black and brown lot can quite literally get in the sea.

That's naturally an easy and tempting explanation to fall back on, but I do get the feeling that if you're still determinedly banging this drum after everything that's happened over the last 6-8 years, you're either stubborn or a slow learner. It seems to be pretty well agreed upon now, even in the most liberal lefty circles, that if we hadn't just handwaved and dismissed anti-migrant sentiment as plain old racism for the past several decades, we might have avoided the rise of right wing populism that ultimately (and misleadingly) gave us Brexit.

Without wishing to justify or excuse racism, because it certainly exists and plays a role in the public's perception of these matters, we have to be more honest with ourselves about whether there are in fact clashes in cultural values and social attitudes that make people less accepting of the brown ones. Actually, it got me thinking recently, I find it a bit funny how the same sorts of people find it so easy to openly condemn and criticise the Quatar world Cup right now for being backward desert tribe religio-nuts who chop up their women's bits and cut your hands off for being a bumder or whatever it is, are usually the ones holding up migrants as saints. There seems to be a weird blind spot where somehow it's fine to criticise them for not letting us wear rainbow hats to a footy game in their own country, but when those people get on a boat to come here, they're saints of virtue beyond reproach and the only possible reason you'd have to be critical of their culture is that you're a racist.

The fact of the matter is we simply don't have that clash of values with Poles and Czechs and Lithuanians and what have you. If it had just been them I think we'd have a lot less bad blood around immigration these days. My Czech missus fucking hates Poles though, it's weird.
>> No. 97295 Anonymous
25th November 2022
Friday 2:47 pm
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>>97293

>I don't think anyone was expecting elderyly women with several health conditions to house Ukrainian families

Tell that to my mum's neighbour.
>> No. 97296 Anonymous
25th November 2022
Friday 3:08 pm
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>>97294

I'm not sure that I fully buy that argument. We have got into a bit of a muddle about being able to discuss meaningful cultural differences, but there's also a lot of knee-jerk reactionary sentiment.

My neighbourhood Facebook group is a good example. Some of the people who were most strenuously arguing that we should support Ukrainian refugees were exactly the same people who moaned for months when a Polski Sklep opened on the high street.

I know these people, they're my neighbours and most of them aren't worried about having their wages undercut by cheap immigrant labour. Most of them are comfortably retired, a lot of them are currently outraged that people are going on strike, most of them would agree with the sentiment that British workers are just lazy and entitled. I've tried to understand it, but the only explanation that makes sense is that some people just want something to be excised about.
>> No. 97297 Anonymous
25th November 2022
Friday 3:15 pm
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>>97294
>I find it a bit funny how the same sorts of people find it so easy to openly condemn and criticise the Quatar world Cup right now for being backward desert tribe religio-nuts who chop up their women's bits and cut your hands off for being a bumder or whatever it is, are usually the ones holding up migrants as saints.

I think the biggest disconnect I've ever felt along those lines was when people years ago kept going on about how female refugees in places like Calais were highly at risk of rape and sexual abuse before saying a few sentences later that we should let them all in, seemingly unable to join the dots that it was the male refugees committing the sexual assaults.

I used to have a Czech colleague and she said neighbouring countries took the piss out of them for being cowards during the Second World War and rolling over for the Nazis, so she had a bit of a chip on her shoulder about that.
>> No. 97298 Anonymous
25th November 2022
Friday 3:49 pm
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>>97294
>if we hadn't just handwaved and dismissed anti-migrant sentiment as plain old racism for the past several decades
You'd have a point here were it not for the inconvenient fact that it was just plain old racism.
>> No. 97299 Anonymous
25th November 2022
Friday 3:59 pm
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>>97296

Absolutely, but I think there's an element of classism as much as racism there. It's more about the snobbery of comfortable middle class homeowners who care about their property values, it's bad enough when the new-build estate allows 10% of the builds to be used for social housing for our own poors to come in and lower the tone of a neighbourhood, let alone foreign ones.

>>97297

Hm, now that you mention it she does have a copy of Mein Kampf and an obsession with holocaust movies... It's starting to come together.
>> No. 97300 Anonymous
26th November 2022
Saturday 1:56 pm
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>>97298
Remember "muslamic ray guns"? It's not racism if its true.
>> No. 97301 Anonymous
26th November 2022
Saturday 2:57 pm
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>>97300

Even if we accept the argument that refugees are a threat, the Home Office is still the problem. As it stands, people applying for asylum in this country often spend years waiting for a decision, trying to live on £40.85 a week. Only 4% of the people who applied for asylum last year have had their claims processed.

When people have their application for asylum rejected, they're rarely deported - not because of "lefty lawyers" holding up their deportation with spurious legal arguments, but because the Home Office keep cocking up the paperwork. When we were in the EU, we had a streamlined mechanism under the Dublin Regulation to send people back to the EU. We rarely used this, again because of incompetence by the Home Office, and we chose not to include equivalent provisions in the EU Withdrawal Agreement. We don't actually know how long it takes to deport people, because the Home Office choose not to publish the statistics.
>> No. 97302 Anonymous
26th November 2022
Saturday 5:49 pm
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>>97301
>trying to live on £40.85 a week
Is that really an issue? I managed a week of food on £12.50 once, which would leave £28.35 for toiletries and other essentials. You're not going to be living organic and buying a pot of anti-aging cream every week, but it's more than do-able.
I guess replacement clothes might be an issue, but you could save for a month and buy a new wardrobe across multiple charity shops. Learn to sew patches and you're golden.

What am I not considering? These people don't pay rent or utilities, right?
>> No. 97303 Anonymous
26th November 2022
Saturday 6:04 pm
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>>97302
One week is much easier to do than every week. It's doing it every week that fucks you up. At some point, you're going to need a haircut, for example. You don't need a haircut every single week, so the money doesn't include anything for haircuts. But this means that at some point, in the week when you do need a haircut, you can't afford one.
>> No. 97304 Anonymous
26th November 2022
Saturday 6:37 pm
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>>97302

Most asylum seekers arrive in the UK with little more than the clothes on their back. Asylum seekers often wait years for a decision, during which time they're not allowed to work. They can be sent anywhere in the country, they have no choice over their accommodation and they have no rights as tenants. The government recently tried to accommodate asylum seekers in a hotel that had been derelict for 17 years until Liverpool City Council intervened.

There's a big difference between managing a week of food on £12.50 once and surviving on the bare minimum indefinitely. It's just inhumane that people who have fled war and persecution might have to go without a decent coat or a pair of shoes, especially considering that so many of them are skilled people who could be contributing to society. It's absurd that we have Syrian doctors and Iranian nurses who are scrimping to afford a charity shop coat on their meagre allowance, while we also have people dying due to a lack of NHS staff.

It all goes back to the hostile environment policy. The government lacks the competence to manage the flow of refugees and migrants effectively, so they've decided to make life as hard as possible for them in the hope that they'll just stop coming. It's a strategy based entirely on cowardice, ineptitude and wishful thinking that benefits absolutely no-one.
>> No. 97305 Anonymous
27th November 2022
Sunday 12:14 am
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>>97304
Most asylum seekers arrive in the UK with little more than the clothes on their back
And I bet they're not paying the proper import taxes on those goods either.
>> No. 97306 Anonymous
27th November 2022
Sunday 2:09 am
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>>97302
Travel. Gas. Electricity.
>> No. 97307 Anonymous
27th November 2022
Sunday 10:56 am
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>>97305

Right. If I got nicked for a pair of fake jeans from Turkey at the airport, then so should they.
>> No. 97308 Anonymous
27th November 2022
Sunday 10:25 pm
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>>97307
Does that really happen? Wow. I didn't know. How much mardy stuff did you have?
>> No. 97309 Anonymous
28th November 2022
Monday 1:25 pm
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>>97308

I actually had three pairs of counterfeit Levi's jeans in my suitcase. Quite well made as far as I was concerned. Bought them at a tourist bazaar in Turkey for about 15 quid a piece. I'm not sure how they singled me out when we got back into Luton, or how they were able to tell from x-raying my suitcase or whatever. One of their counterfeit experts then pointed out flaws to me which he said were characteristic of fake jeans. I also had no receipt from a halfway plausible appearing clothes shop, which they told me would also have been important.

They confiscated them and I was let off with a warning because it was my first offence and three pairs still allowed the assumption that they were for my personal use and that I wasn't smuggling them commercially. They also said they would fine me if they caught me again.
>> No. 97310 Anonymous
28th November 2022
Monday 2:07 pm
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>>97309
>three pairs of counterfeit Levi's jeans in my suitcase

I honestly had no idea one could get stopped for this at Customs. Must be a little scary. I guess they know which flights to target.
>> No. 97311 Anonymous
28th November 2022
Monday 2:20 pm
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>>97310

Scary, not really. I was approached by customs on the way to the exit after picking up my suitcase and they just said politely, "Could we have a little chat with you about the contents of your suitcase today?". I then had to open and half unpack it in the customs area and they asked me all kinds of questions about the purpose of our trip to Turkey, and they were especially keen to know where exactly I had bought the jeans and under what circumstances. I would imagine that they collect that information and relay it to anti-counterfeit authorities abroad. Or something.
>> No. 97312 Anonymous
28th November 2022
Monday 4:24 pm
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>>97311
Why do they give enough of a shit about three pairs of counterfeit jeans to waste manpower on this?
>> No. 97313 Anonymous
28th November 2022
Monday 4:58 pm
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>>97312

Border force are there for every inbound regardless, so it's not really a waste of manpower in that sense. As for why they bother to question 3 pairs of jeans, either because they have targets to meet or maybe it's as simple as building a case against the supplier or whatever. Or they have fuck all else to do and pick out the stuff with the least amount of paperwork so they can go back to sitting on their arse / taking 40 minutes to arrive at a medical to check their passport, useless cunts
>> No. 97314 Anonymous
28th November 2022
Monday 4:58 pm
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>>97312

You can get in trouble for relatively small amounts of fags over your allowance, so it figures that they also go after fake clothing.
>> No. 97315 Anonymous
28th November 2022
Monday 11:13 pm
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>>97314
>they also go after fake clothing

I'm just surprised at the use of resources - I believe that this kind of thing is handled by Trading Standards once they're in the country.
>> No. 97316 Anonymous
30th November 2022
Wednesday 7:59 pm
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>>97315

No, if they spot counterfeit goods in your luggage at customs, then it's their responsibility to intercept and seize them.

Trading standards only comes into play if and when those goods slip through customs undetected and are put into circulation.
>> No. 98050 Anonymous
17th October 2023
Tuesday 8:53 pm
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>The government plans to change the legal definition of wine following Brexit, to reflect demand for low-alcohol versions of the drink.

>Under rules the UK inherited from the EU, wine typically has to contain at least 8.5% alcohol by volume (ABV) to be marketed as such. It means low and alcohol-free versions have to be sold as a "wine-based drink", or a similar product name.

>That rule will now be scrapped in England next year. The change is part of a wider package of measures designed to boost British winemaking in the wake of the UK's exit from the EU.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67136177
>> No. 98051 Anonymous
18th October 2023
Wednesday 1:32 am
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>>98050

>measures designed to boost British winemaking

British grown grapes have a poor must weight, they lack flavour and are very acidic. Despite global warming so far, because grapes need a kind of warmer climate that even the south of England struggles to provide.

By lowering the threshold of what constitutes wine in order to boost British winemaking, you're allowing very poor quality fermented grape must to be passed off as something similar to what you and I think of as wine.
>> No. 98052 Anonymous
18th October 2023
Wednesday 2:22 am
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>>98051

English wine has to be made from English grapes. British wine can be made from any old shit.

The cheapest bottles of plonk in your local corner shop aren't technically wine - they look like bottles of wine, they probably taste vaguely of wine, they're taxed as wine, but they can't legally be labelled as wine because the alcohol content is too low.

https://continental-wine.co.uk/portfolio/silver-bay-point/
>> No. 98053 Anonymous
18th October 2023
Wednesday 6:57 am
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>>98052
>they can't legally be labelled as wine because the alcohol content is too low.

No shit.

>>98050
>It means low and alcohol-free versions have to be sold as a "wine-based drink", or a similar product name.
>> No. 98054 Anonymous
18th October 2023
Wednesday 10:03 am
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>>98052

>but they can't legally be labelled as wine because the alcohol content is too low.

And the alcohol content is too low because grapes don't do well in our climate and produce too little sugar that can be turned into wine.

Some wine growing regions in continental Europe have laws that allow vintners to top up their must with sugar before fermentation during years with cooler summers. But it's only meant as a temporary fix to help them produce and sell wine at all that year. But to produce wine in the English or British climate that deserves that name, you'd have to top up sugar every year. And because sugar content isn't the only mark of quality of your grapes, you're still left with acidic, flavourless wines that can't even hold a candle to the sourest German riesling.
>> No. 98055 Anonymous
18th October 2023
Wednesday 11:02 am
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>>98054

The point is that "British wine" can be (and invariably is) made from imported grape concentrate, rather than "English wine" that's made from grapes grown in England.

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