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>> No. 99370 Anonymous
4th July 2024
Thursday 9:00 am
99370 General Election 2024 Thread
Go out and vote, lads.
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>> No. 99549 Anonymous
5th July 2024
Friday 6:58 pm
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>>99542

ASOS do a decent line in affordably priced but fucking mental menswear.

https://www.asos.com/asos-design/asos-design-oversized-suit-in-bright-yellow-crepe/grp/206508071
>> No. 99550 Anonymous
5th July 2024
Friday 7:04 pm
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>>99544

>I would share your prediction on infighting ahoy.

Strongly disagree. Starmer has been brutal about party discipline and very careful about selection. He has made it abundantly clear that he will have no hesitation in withdrawing the whip and he has a big enough majority to suppress very large rebellions. Infighting will be punished swiftly and mercilessly.
>> No. 99551 Anonymous
5th July 2024
Friday 7:19 pm
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>>99548
>cute
>leftie
>local
>attainable
By all metrics the perfect woman.
>> No. 99552 Anonymous
5th July 2024
Friday 7:43 pm
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>>99551

More like the closet fattychaser's dream. When you want a bit of pudgy but not the fat arse.
>> No. 99553 Anonymous
5th July 2024
Friday 7:58 pm
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>>99550
He couldn't even bounce Diane Abbott, he's got the numbers but not the skill or the goodwill
>> No. 99554 Anonymous
5th July 2024
Friday 8:28 pm
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>>99550
We'll see on that, the thing about having a big majority is that you also don't have an opposition to collaborate against and no risk anyone will lose their seat. Not that Labour ever needed an excuse to get the factionalist knives out of course - remember Owen Smith?

>>99552
I think that would be Lisa Nandy. I'm sure I'm not the only one that noticed her unusually tight dress as she came into Number 10 or the mark from her knickers as she stepped in the door. Or maybe I'm not but nobody wants to say it while she's the new minister for culture.
>> No. 99555 Anonymous
5th July 2024
Friday 11:36 pm
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>>99554

She was doing herself no favour with that dress. She's more of a pantsuit figure.

Even painfully dull Angela Rayner looked more fetching today in her daring green outfit. And that's saying something.
>> No. 99556 Anonymous
6th July 2024
Saturday 10:09 am
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>>99555

Angela Rayner is really the definition of what I call "ugly fit". She's not a looker, her dress sense is shocking, but somehow it's alluring.

Probably because I harbour elaborate fantasies of what kind of a filthy bitch she is after a few white wines. Ah shit I should have had a wank this morning shouldn't I.
>> No. 99557 Anonymous
6th July 2024
Saturday 10:19 am
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>>99556
I've posted it before, but she reminds me of a lobotomised version of Hannah Fry.
>> No. 99558 Anonymous
6th July 2024
Saturday 11:27 am
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>>99556

She became a grandmother at the age of 37. If she isn't properly mucky, I will eat my hat.
>> No. 99559 Anonymous
6th July 2024
Saturday 12:12 pm
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>>99558

Probably a proper working class slag in her time. She left school at 16, pregnant and with no qualifications. The stuff of Two Pints of Lager.
>> No. 99560 Anonymous
6th July 2024
Saturday 12:50 pm
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>>99556
I'm formulating a theory that there are certain things that are incredibly attractive in women but which we're collectively blind because the society we live in hasn't given us the tools for it. It's different to being an out-and-out stereotypical tomboy but adopts some traits we'd consider masculine like being average-tall height, general chattiness, confidence and having more of a blokish character where you can see them as a mate.

I'd think about this more but I'm pretty sure this also reads like a blind man describing the sun in the sky.
>> No. 99561 Anonymous
6th July 2024
Saturday 2:38 pm
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>>99560
It's the male equivalent of how women love gay men because they can talk to them about clothes and shopping and stuff. Lesbians are bros, and women always look fantastic in football shirts. Our theories are slightly different from each other, but I am confident that we are definitely onto something.

>>99557
While I am announcing my opinions on women in the public eye, I would just like to also contribute that I hate Hannah Fry so much. She's ghastly. I don't think this relates to the above point at all, but some armchair psychoanalysts might disagree.
>> No. 99562 Anonymous
6th July 2024
Saturday 3:16 pm
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>>99561
I saw Fry for the first time on the C4 election coverage, I thought she was quite lovely. Like an intelligent Stacy Dooley.
>> No. 99563 Anonymous
6th July 2024
Saturday 3:54 pm
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>>99562
Other than being ginger, in what way is she like Stacy Dooley?
>> No. 99564 Anonymous
6th July 2024
Saturday 3:56 pm
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Why do our political talks always devolve into which female politicians we'd give it to?
>> No. 99565 Anonymous
6th July 2024
Saturday 4:12 pm
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>>99564
The election's over now, there's not much else to be said

We had Blair's Babes, what will this lot be known as? Starmer's Slags?
>> No. 99566 Anonymous
6th July 2024
Saturday 4:19 pm
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This article, just... Oof. Fucking oof.
>> No. 99567 Anonymous
6th July 2024
Saturday 4:41 pm
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>>99563
Ginger only.

>>99565
For me it's Kemi Badenoch. Want me a black transphobic race baiting hacker gf.
>> No. 99568 Anonymous
6th July 2024
Saturday 4:42 pm
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So here's something I haven't seen anyone asking, what with the big story being the coming of Reform and the collapse in Tory votes; what did the Corbyn die-hards do? I know what I did, I voted for the Labour party. But how many of the 2019 Labour voters stayed home or went to another party is an interesting question.

>>99566
Telegraph columnists are often filing directly from Tufton Street. If not that then from atop a pile of daddy's money. They have literally worthwhile nothing to say and are, in essence, a keystage 5 version of the demented comments you can find beneath an article in The Mail, with, usually, a touch more Tory tribalism. Headlines from the editor, Allister Heath, are often such overblown portents of doom, you wonder how he gets out of bed in the morning. Headlines from Allister Heath dated 7th September 2022 are so embarrassing you wonder how subsequently leaves the house.
>> No. 99569 Anonymous
6th July 2024
Saturday 4:44 pm
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>>99565

Starmer's Rosie Palmers.
>> No. 99570 Anonymous
6th July 2024
Saturday 5:57 pm
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>>99568
Jezzas 40 odd years of being a dedicated and hard working MP for the area he represents worked in his favour.
>> No. 99571 Anonymous
6th July 2024
Saturday 6:09 pm
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>>99570
I meant nationally, you daftie. Obviously Islington North still likes the bloke.
>> No. 99572 Anonymous
6th July 2024
Saturday 6:13 pm
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>>99568
The Corbynites I know all voted Labour. They feel like they are owed a Labour government now. And if you're the sort of person who would rather vote for a left-wing party you agree with, even if they have no chance of winning - like me, and anyone who wouldn't have voted Labour this time - then you probably voted Green in 2019 too.
>> No. 99573 Anonymous
6th July 2024
Saturday 7:58 pm
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>>99568
Looking at the data it's a pretty fair assumption that at least some moved to Reform and that some others has already flipped from Corbyn to Johnson in 2019. There's a lot of people who vote based on vibes or outright appeals to populism no matter the stripe.

It must be a nice life, to just not give a single fuck about politics.
>> No. 99574 Anonymous
6th July 2024
Saturday 9:05 pm
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>>99573

As always the thing a lot of political wonks don't get is that although the trends and evidence are all there to show how certain demographics have strong ties to their parties, that's just one of those illusions statistics create that can't be used to characterise individuals.

Statistics show us the homogenised average grey goo person of 15 million Labour voters; but the reality of those people as individuals is that they don't see Labour and the history of socialism and their class position, now do they see the Conservatives therefore as the upper class and elites and vested interests of capital.

They see it more like "Oooh you know what I've bought Coke the last three times, I reckon I might give Pepsi a try this time." And then if it turns out Pepsi is rancid artificially sweetened pisswater, they'll be back to Coke the next time and never again.
>> No. 99583 Anonymous
8th July 2024
Monday 7:55 pm
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There's something off about this picture.
>> No. 99584 Anonymous
8th July 2024
Monday 8:27 pm
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>>99583

And it isn't Angela Rayner's flesh coloured dress.

First a mint green pantsuit and now a flesh coloured dress. She is becoming an ever more challenging wank.
>> No. 99585 Anonymous
8th July 2024
Monday 9:14 pm
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>>99584
If you're wanking over her instead of David Byrne in the bottom-left corner, I am forced to conclude that you don't want to enjoy it.
>> No. 99586 Anonymous
8th July 2024
Monday 9:27 pm
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>>99583

a) The lens is sufficiently wide-angle that the people in the bottom left are distorted
b) it's a really weird angle because the photographer is on a balcony
c) the backlighting makes everyone look like a cardboard cut-out

It's not a great photo on a technical level, but I'm not sure how I'd do a better job unless I had easy access to something like a grandstand or a steeply raked stage.
>> No. 99587 Anonymous
9th July 2024
Tuesday 12:17 am
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>>99586
Personally, I blame the lighting. I assumed that "There's something off" was a reference to how absolutely everyone in this new diverse Labour government was a pasty white person, but I looked closer and some of these pasty white people are wearing turbans. There are plenty of blacks and Asians; they just all look white, and I think that must be the lighting.
>> No. 99588 Anonymous
9th July 2024
Tuesday 2:28 am
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Has Kier had a haircut? I reckon that's gonna tank his popularity ratings, it's disastrous.
>> No. 99589 Anonymous
9th July 2024
Tuesday 8:47 am
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>>99587
>plenty of blacks
>they just look white
I understand how an Asian might look White, but how would a Black person look White?
>> No. 99590 Anonymous
9th July 2024
Tuesday 10:04 am
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>>99589

>but how would a Black person look White?

Michael Jackson.
>> No. 99591 Anonymous
9th July 2024
Tuesday 10:16 am
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>>99589
Albinos?
>> No. 99594 Anonymous
9th July 2024
Tuesday 11:02 pm
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One of Jimmy Savile's first acts in Parliament was to complain about a man who hasn't been Speaker for almost five years. I'm not saying Reform haven't got much going for them, but I am actually saying that.
>> No. 99595 Anonymous
11th July 2024
Thursday 5:49 pm
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It's been a week, why hasn't everything been fixed yet?
>> No. 99596 Anonymous
11th July 2024
Thursday 5:59 pm
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>>99595
One step at a time. We're just going to win the football, then national optimism will soar and the momentum will fix everything.
>> No. 99597 Anonymous
11th July 2024
Thursday 6:43 pm
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>>99596
>momentum will fix everything

But I thought they kicked Corbyn out of the Labour party?
>> No. 99599 Anonymous
11th July 2024
Thursday 8:34 pm
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>>99595
I noticed that Question Time was on early again, and while I was watching, there wasn't a single insufferable twat. I only watched for about four minutes, though.
>> No. 99600 Anonymous
11th July 2024
Thursday 9:21 pm
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>>99595
Oh it's been fixed, just not for you. Those poor, poor illegal migrants nearly had to go to Rwanda before Keir Starmer saved them you know.
>> No. 99601 Anonymous
11th July 2024
Thursday 11:13 pm
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>>99595

Keir'll fix it.
>> No. 99613 Anonymous
13th July 2024
Saturday 10:22 am
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>releasing thousands of prisoners early, including some violent offenders

Is the plan to get all of their massively unpopular legislation out of the way as soon as possible? Even so it's a gamble. Bet you a tenner that every right-leaning paper will be scrambling to get the names of all those released under this scheme in the (hope?) chance that one of them will go on to commit murder in time for the next election. Cue all the "Labour, soft on crime" headlines.
>> No. 99614 Anonymous
13th July 2024
Saturday 10:48 am
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>>99613
>Some offenders, such as those guilty of violent or sexual offences and sentenced to more than four years are currently eligible for automatic release after serving 66% of their sentences. This will not change under the new plans.

https://fullfact.org/news/labour-prison-early-release/

The prison system is close to full capacity and without action would have exceeded it later this year.
>> No. 99615 Anonymous
13th July 2024
Saturday 11:14 am
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>>99613

The Tories released 10,000 prisoners early over the last nine months. The prison estate is so overcrowded that it has effectively been operating on a one-in, one-out basis.
>> No. 99616 Anonymous
13th July 2024
Saturday 11:23 am
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>Frequent headlines about crises in our public services have begun to lose their bite. But the situation in prisons is so severe that it threatens the functioning of the whole criminal justice system. Court hearings have already been delayed and police cells are clogged up with prisoners with nowhere to go. Without decisive measures, the prospect of police being unable to make arrests or hold people in custody is very real – and imminent.

>The May government launched the Prison Estate Transformation Programme in 2016, promising 10,000 new spaces by 2020. But poor management and chopping and changing of funding led to a comprehensive failure: just 206 places were delivered.

>The only reason we haven’t reached an immediate crisis point sooner is because of failings elsewhere in the criminal justice system. Collapsing charge rates and many fewer convictions meant the prison population did not grow as rapidly as projected, even as sentences became longer and the number of community sentences plummeted. But the time that bought has now run out, and with the impact of 20,000 new police officers starting to be felt in the number of charges, pressure on the system is only increasing.

https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/comment/failures-last-government-labour-prisons-options
>> No. 99657 Anonymous
14th July 2024
Sunday 11:11 pm
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To give an idea of just how badly the justice system is faring right now, a bunch of influencers recently entered pleas in a fraud trial. It had taken quite a while for the case to reach the point of a pre-trial hearing where their pleas were formally taken. The court then listed the case for trial at the court's earliest convenience - which turned out to be sometime in 2027.

This issue of court delays is making the prison problem worse. There are a significant number of people who are inside because they're on remand pending trial, for which they're having to wait longer and longer. Not only are we running out of space to house serious offenders, we have lots of people that are waiting indefinitely taking up space.
>> No. 99667 Anonymous
15th July 2024
Monday 4:17 pm
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>>99657

Maybe we should raise the threshold for being put on remand, or decrease the time limit. After all, it's meant to be used only as a last resort by the justice system. It feels a bit like in recent years, locking somebody up before their trial has become a knee jerk reaction that isn't always warranted. I can see a justification for it when an offender is posing an immediate risk for committing additional crimes. But not all of them do.
>> No. 99668 Anonymous
15th July 2024
Monday 6:17 pm
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>>99667
We can just amend the planning laws so that new build housing estates need to have a certain number of prison places in addition to the social/affordable housing quota.
>> No. 99669 Anonymous
15th July 2024
Monday 7:12 pm
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>>99667

Judges are acutely aware of the shortage of prison places and they're under substantial pressure to avoid imprisoning people wherever possible. Pretty much everyone on remand either poses a serious risk to the public, or has a clear risk of disappearing before their trial date.

There are system-wide problems that all interact. There's a shortage of probation staff, so judges are less confident that people awaiting trial or released on license will be appropriately supervised in the community. The very high rate of homelessness contributes to the use of remand imprisonment, because obviously it's much harder to monitor someone in the community if they don't have anywhere to live. Likewise the shortage of drug rehab services - it's a much harder decision to bail a heroin addict if you know that you can't send them to rehab and it's basically certain that they'll keep committing crime to fund their habit.

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