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|>>|| No. 5103
THERE'S TRAFFIC AT THE OTHER SIDE OF THE JUNCTION BUT INSTEAD OF LETTING YOU PULL OUT I'M GOING TO CREEP MY CAR FORWARD A FEW METRES AND BLOCK YOU IN BECAUSE I'M AN INCONSIDERATE CUNT WHO WOULD RATHER INCONVENIENCE OTHERS JUST SO I CAN SPEED UP MY OWN JOURNEY BY A FEW SECONDS.
|>>|| No. 5104
I never learned how to drive, OP. Can you simplify what you're talking about (perhaps with a diagram) so I can be angry with you?
|>>|| No. 5105
Oh fuck me I hate these cunts, they really are utter BASTARDS
|>>|| No. 5106
Very crude but - imagine you're the yellow car, it doesn't really matter if you're turning left or right.
For one reason or another the cars to the left of you have stopped. The car in front of you can't clear the junction, but instead of waiting on the right-hand side and letting you pull out they've decided to block the junction just so they can be a few metres closer to their destination.
|>>|| No. 5108
Especially when it's a bus. I fucking hate bus drivers, they're all cunts.
|>>|| No. 5112
However, in heavy traffic, sometimes it's the only fucking way to get out.
|>>|| No. 5113
Looks like we've spotted one of the shit heads, chaps. What a cunt.
|>>|| No. 5115
Had this today. Waiting at a set of lights to turn right onto a dual carriageway. The lights turn green, but I can't go anywhere because the carriageway is backed up from the next set of lights along and a trio of bus drivers thought it was funny to foul the junction. So I wait for the next cycle. Traffic is moving, and the carriageway is clear - that is right up until the lights change in my favour again. So I think "fuck this, I'm going to abuse s.36 for all it's worth" and advance past the white line (the light is green). Then, about a minute later, even facing a red light, I move off while nothing is coming from either direction (thanks to lights further along), much to the shock of the person behind me.
No problem, of course, since the law is explicit that when the light is red, no part of the vehicle shall cross the line, and indeed no part of my vehicle crossed the line, being as it had done so entirely while the light was green.
|>>|| No. 5125
I'm not >>5112 but there are certain places where you have to creep out like a bit of a cunt or you're never getting out. Fortunately, almost every time I've done this someone will have the sense to let me in before I actually end up holding someone up in the lane I've crept into.
|>>|| No. 5126
This. On my patch, there are major roads where you have to resort to cunt creep because bigger cunts than yourself have parked right on the corner, meaning you can't see what's coming, the cunts. At least, usually, they're cunts. Except when they've parked a van or a 'tractor, in which case they're not cunts, they're cunting fuckmaggots that need to be removed from the gene pool entirely. A £70 fine would be fine too, if the traffic wardens weren't too busy giving out tickets to people who are ten seconds over in the car park.
|>>|| No. 5396
COMING OFF A SLIPROAD AND ON TO THE MOTORWAY? I'M IN THE LEFT HAND LANE AND THE LANE NEXT TO ME IS CLEAR, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO PULL INTO IT BECAUSE I AM A DRIBBLING CUNT.
|>>|| No. 5415
If you had bought a tank from the Net, you could have just driven over that.
|>>|| No. 5416
That's almost funny. Maybe it was really, really dark when he parked?
|>>|| No. 5417
It's an old hatchback painted gold, with blacked out windows, and ridiculously low suspension. There is no way that the driver isn't a complete twat.
|>>|| No. 5433
LOL WHY THE FUCK SHOULD I USE THE INDICATOR I DON'T THINK PEEPEL NEED TO KNOW WHERE I'M GOING!
|>>|| No. 5434
There's a main crossroad I cross often. Getting over should be simple. Wait for the lights to go red on the road that goes horizontal and walk over immediately so the cars on the vertical road don't hit me. It makes it so much easier if the car on each side of the vertical road indicates so I know how quickly I need to cross. But the fuckers don't even indicate and they get annoyed when they almost hit me.
Would help if they didn't get rid of the pedestrian traffic lights because the only other way is to walk down one way for another 10 minutes to get to a safer crossing. Christ my neighbour died this year due to this crossing because someone forgot to indicate, she got hit by a van and got flung into the bushes. She's an old lady too and she couldn't have walked to the safer crossing because it might have taken her half an hour when she just needed to go to the post office to buy stamps.
|>>|| No. 5438
Some people are cunts for this. It's so easy to get lulled into that mentality that nothing can go wrong, no matter how selfishly you boot your car to where ever it is you're going, or how inconsiderately you drive.
|>>|| No. 6853
Adding to the posts about indicating, it irritates me when I'm in the middle lane, the right-hand lane is clear and there's a car in the left-hand lane wanting to overtake the car in front of them, but they don't bother indicating and instead will swoop into the middle lane the moment I drive past them. If they indicate I will bother going into the right-hand lane so they don't have to wait for me, their loss though.
|>>|| No. 6854
HEY EVERYONE LOOK AT ME EVEN THOUGH THIS LEFT HAND LANE IS DESIGNATED LEFT TURN ONLY IM IGNORING ALL THE SIGNS AND GOING STRAIGHT ON
I've been nearly broadsided by cunts doing this at one junction more times than I can count on fingers alone. After several complaints to the council, they gave up and redesignated the lane.
|>>|| No. 6855
Fucking hate this. I cross so many roads like this and if there's one fucker not indicating while everyone else is then he is clearly in the wrong. I look forward to the day when this happens and I get angry enough to stand in the middle of the road to stop the car advancing then either get run over or tell the driver he's a life endangering cunt because people aren't telepathic and he's not fucking indicating when he should be.
Seriously, situations like that are the ONLY TIME I get honked at by drivers. Like I'm in the wrong for them doing something which is clearly fucktarded.
|>>|| No. 6856
On a related note, it's called
INDICATES WHAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO DO. Starting to indicate when you're already half way in the next lane isn't fucking helping.
|>>|| No. 6857
This gets me ALL the time. People seem to forget that indicators are for other people, not just something you sorta have to do if you feel like it.
|>>|| No. 6860
People who don't indicate drive me fucking crazy. In fairness though that anger is tiny compared to the all-consuming rage that takes hold when someone overtakes me on a blind corner. I'm a pacifist by nature but whenever I see people driving like that I start to have violent fantasies about pulling them from their car and beating the living shit out of them. Playing with other peoples' lives like that is just not on.
|>>|| No. 6863
In Northampton, they are largely used for trying to send obscenities to other drivers using Morse code.
|>>|| No. 6865
This would seem to indicate that people in Northampton have developed the ability to communicate through means other than punching since I last was there, so this is an improvement.
|>>|| No. 6872
I've nearly run over 2 lasses in the last week. Is there something about wearing headphones that means you just walk straight into the road without bothering to look if it's safe?
|>>|| No. 6881
I thought the left was for slow drivers, and middle and right is overtaking?
Don't drive yet.
|>>|| No. 6883
>Don't drive yet.
Really? I couldn't tell, honestly.
|>>|| No. 6887
The hot weather must be spawning these pricks. I was crossing over that road again yesterday. They had to put their indicators on because the opposite road had roadworks being done. But they didn't put them on. As I was crossing he nearly hit me and shouted "watch where you're going" so I replied with their ever enchanting "well put your fucking indicators on then, you cunt".
He didn't even turn them on during the turn. Seriously how hard is it to just put them on? They're on the left of the steering wheel and they have this nice little feature of turning off when you finish the turn.
Got my blood boiling that did.
|>>|| No. 6888
> Seriously how hard is it to just put them on?
Drivers around here generally operate on the principle that to turn your indicators on is to admit defeat, an admission of homosexuality and all around only something uppity hippies do.
People who don't indicate didn't forget, they consciously refuse to do it because to them a "good" driver shouldn't need to indicate, just like they no longer need shoulder checks, just like cross-hatch marks are for sissies and just like bus lanes are really their private lanes.
|>>|| No. 6890
I support the notion that every now and then every driver should be forced to ride a bicycle for a week, where not indicating often means that someone will try to drive through you.
|>>|| No. 6891
I'm of the opinion every person on a bike who ignores a red light should be jumped and beaten with clubs. I don't even drive and it pisses me off.
|>>|| No. 6892
Actually I think that every person on a bike who ignores a red light should be struck by a very large and fast moving metal object.
The only lives cyclists are putting at risk by doing things like this are their own, whereas in most cases drivers who don't indicate are risking everyones life.
|>>|| No. 6895
As well as not indicating at all, there's the completely erratic approach as well. For example, starting to indicate left several miles before the turning, stopping to slow down at each one but speeding up again before anybody can overtake.
There's also the indicating right and stopping to let oncoming traffic past, but stopping in the middle of the lane when there'd be loads of room for the traffic jam behind you to get past if you'd moved to the right.
|>>|| No. 6897
As long as every speeding motorist get's hung, drawn and quartered I'm with you.
|>>|| No. 6900
I'm pretty sure they get run over or punched on occasion, m8. The penalties for cycling badly are already pretty severe. There should be more tuition in place to educate cyclists on how to use the road, maybe with a cycle-to-work-esque discount on bikes for those who take part?
Anyway can we not have another "cyclists are twats" debate again, we had two concurrent threads about it last time and it really isn't interesting.
There aren't many situations in which "get's" could ever be used correctly. I don't think apostrophe abuse should be a capital crime any more than poor cycling should, though.
Why can't we all just get along?
|>>|| No. 6902
I HEARD A RUMOUR THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A STRIKE OR SOMETHING AT THE PETROL STATION.
I BETTER FILL UP MY CAR AND 15 JERRY CANS THUS CAUSING MORE TRAFFIC DUE TO OTHER PEOPLE WITH MY LOGIC DOING THE SAME AND I'M HOLDING UP PEOPLE WHO NEED PETROL. I DON'T CARE IF IT'S ILLEGAL TO GET THIS MUCH PETROL.
Took me an hour to get home in what's normally a 15 minute journey because of these cunts.
|>>|| No. 7626
I have small children, I see inconsiderate and sometimes dangerous driving and parking, like stopping your car in the middle of the road just because there's no spaces within 30m of the nursery, on an almost daily basis.
I don't get it; is there something about becoming a parent that rots some people's brains or are they dim beforehand? It isn't vital to have your car as close to the nursery as possible.
|>>|| No. 7636
if they park too far away the weird guy watching will get their kids.
|>>|| No. 7709
I KNOW I DRIVE AT 40MPH, BUT I'M GOING TO KEEP AS FAR TO THE RIGHT AS I CAN TO OBSTRUCT YOUR VIEW AND SAFETY FOR OVERTAKING, YOU SMALL-PENISSED SYNDROME MAN. DON'T YOU KNOW I OWN THIS ROAD? NO CAR SHALL BE IN FRONT OF ME!
EVEN IF YOU TRY TO OVERTAKE, I CAN ACCELARATE THEN! AND IF YOU'RE BREAKING THE LIMIT, I'LL STILL OVERTAKE YOU AND THEN SLOW DOWN!
BUT BEWARE 30 OR 20MPH AREAS, I'M STICKING TO MY 40MPH, AND I DON'T CARE WHO KNOWS IT!
|>>|| No. 7710
I'M GOING TO DRIVE AT A CONSTANT 35MPH ABSOLUTELY FUCKING EVERYWHERE
|>>|| No. 7711
This. I flick V-signs at people who do this while I'm overtaking them.
|>>|| No. 7745
I was doing about 85mph in the right-hand lane on the M18 earlier today, it was just 2 lanes at this point, when a clapped out Suzuki started tailgating me. Once the left-hand lane was clear I pulled into it, still going at ~85mph, the Suzuki stayed in the right-hand lane but instead of overtaking me, started decelerating and I pulled away from it. What the fuck?
|>>|| No. 8365
IT'S SLIGHTLY DARK OUTSIDE? I'D BETTER PUT MY LIGHTS ON, EVEN THOUGH I CAN SEE PERFECTLY FINE, JUST BECAUSE I WANT TO LET OTHER DRIVES KNOW WHERE I AM BY DAZZLING THEM AND LIMITING WHAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY SEE ON THE ROADS.
|>>|| No. 8367
IT'S DUSK AND EVERYTHING IS THE SAME MURKY GRAY COLOUR IN THE DIRTY HALF-LIGHT. TRAFFIC AND OBSTACLES ARE DIFFICULT TO MAKE OUT BUT I WILL DRIVE AROUND WITH JUST MY SIDE LIGHTS ON BECAUSE IT ISN'T YET PITCH-FUCKING-BLACK XD XD XD
|>>|| No. 8368
No, no, not dusk. Not even close to dusk. Just ever so slightly darker than mid-day and the lights are on.
|>>|| No. 8370
just saying, that's the flip side of the coin, both sets of people are undeniably arseholes.
|>>|| No. 8373
Jesus christ lads.
I would consult the highway code about this, but fucking hell do you know what, I can't even be arsed.
If it's dusk it's sensible to use side lights I'm fairly sure. Sure there are wierdoes driving around all day with them on but whatever, it's not exactly harming you so if they wanna make themselves a bit more visible fine.
Honestly do people forget that roads are places with huge steel machines barelling down them at potentially lethal speeds, or what?
|>>|| No. 8379
>just like bus lanes are really their private lanes.
It's perfectly fine to use a bus lane outside of its operation hours. When other drivers don't realise this, and flood the other lane, all the better for me!
|>>|| No. 9022
What is it about rain that causes people to have a massive brainfart and forget how to drive properly? It's taken me over twice as long to get to work this morning because a little drizzle has left the roads heaving.
|>>|| No. 9318
This one seems to have happened a few times to me recently and it's boiling my piss.
I'm turning into a sidestreet and a pedestrian carries on walking without even bothering to see if it's clear and I nearly end up taking them out.
|>>|| No. 9321
I do this all the time, secretly hoping that one day, one of them will hit me.
|>>|| No. 9323
I do this a lot. Don't expect me to take the right lane when it is miles long because of traffic.
|>>|| No. 9324
Technically the pedestrian has the right of way so if you hit them you are proper fucked.
|>>|| No. 9325
Once I was crossing after checking to make sure it was clear when some twat pulled out in front of me forcing me to stop in my tracks. I felt like running after him and banging on his window while shouting about right of way. I would have caught him too as it was a dead end.
|>>|| No. 9326
Pull that shit in London and expect a bill for £120 in the post, you cunt.
|>>|| No. 10516
I got such a glare yesterday because I had to pretty much force another car into the right-hand lane of a dual carriageway.
I was coming off the slip road and they were plodding along in their clapped-out Ford Focus, they made no effort to make any room for me by speeding up or slowing down and the right-hand lane was completely clear so my only options were to go heavy on the brakes and pull in behind them or try and muscle in. I know I was a bit aggressive, but the worst thing about shit drivers is that they never realise that they're in the wrong.
|>>|| No. 10517
This seems to be disappointingly true - if the shambling fuckwit has started crossing, you're obliged to miss him. If he hasn't started crossing, he's on the pavement, and you're obliged to miss him. It's particularly fun on a bike, you come to expect people just blithely marching out in front of you. All adds to the fun. Sometimes you can pull to a stop next to them, and politely wait for them to shamble across in that charmingly oblivious manner.
As a pedestrian, I'll always look. Why the fuck wouldn't you?
At a junction. When crossing the road, look out for traffic turning into the road, especially from behind you. If you have started crossing and traffic wants to turn into the road, you have priority and they should give way (see Rule 170). (Rule 170 says the same, from driver's POV)
|>>|| No. 10518
Huh? As the joiner, you adjust your speed to slot in. Otherwise, you'll end up in either your situation, or the comedy dance lockstep, as both brake / accelerate.
I think you deserved a glare.
|>>|| No. 10522
Even though the pedestrian always has right of way they should still check first, if the car has already crossed the line when the pedestrian starts crossing, or is close enough to it that the car would have to stop suddenly, then you really shouldn't cross. It's just common sense.
|>>|| No. 10525
It's about good manners. If I'm on a motorway and I see someone coming off the slip road I'll move into the next lane (assuming it is clear) so they can merge safely because I'm not an inconsiderate twat.
|>>|| No. 10527
As will I, but I'm not going to get aggrieved, or just join regardless if they don't...
|>>|| No. 10528
Might is right, eh?
It is common sense from the pedestrian point of view, but it's a point of ignorance from a lot of drivers.
|>>|| No. 10529
If I'm walking along the pavement and a cyclist is coming at me despite the fact that they're not allowed on the pavement, I will move instead of getting a chunk of bike up my bottom or through my balls, despite the loss of moral integrity I will endure.
If I am on a bike and a car is trying to pass but the shitty driver is giving me less and less space every second, even though he should pass reasonably, I will drop back rather than standing my ground and going under the wheels even though I was fully entitled to be there.
If I am in a car and have right of way at a junction, but an artic decides he's going first, I won't go anyway even though I should have done because I don't really fancy being in a 0.55 ton collision while only making up .05 of said tonnage. Obviously, this means that I am a slave to antiquated derogatory anti-war phrases such as "might is right."
Finally, if I was driving an artic and I came across a track crossing which hadn't shut properly even though there was a train approaching, I wouldn't go across anyway even though I wouldn't be legally obliged to stop because the barrier was up and the lights off, because there would be a train in my brain seconds later. Common sense is right, eh?
|>>|| No. 10530
When I'm in those situations I generally do the same, but make the effort to pretend I'm not going to because fuck 'em.
|>>|| No. 10531
Don't have a teary, lad. All I meant was that just because the pedestrian is going to come off worse in a collision, doesn't mean that drivers should remain ignorant of the law.
|>>|| No. 10535
Was crossing over a road like this once, checked all the way over might right shoulder to see a car with no indicators on, so I walk out. In the middle of the lane, I hear some slag screaming at me out the window of her shitty hatchback because apparently indicators are for civilised people and fuck you for not reading my mind on where she was going. Not the first time it has happened either.
|>>|| No. 10536
Yeah. Lots of people don't indicate for pedestrians. If there are no cars they consider it to be en empty road and don't bother.
|>>|| No. 10538
Isn't it illegal to turn without indicating? My driving instructor made a big show of telling me that I ALWAYS need to indicate, even in right/left turn only lanes.
|>>|| No. 10541
"Must/must not" means that rule is legally enforceable.
"Should/should not" means that it is not illegal.
|>>|| No. 10542
So the highway code is a collection of rules set in place to make sure people don't die on the roads, but some of them aren't really rules?
You couldn't make it up!
|>>|| No. 10544
Seems like you haven't read it. The wording couldn't be any simpler. The Must/must not rules are legally enforceable and disobeying them will give you points/fines/prison sentences. The entries in the highway code give a reference to the law itself.
Should/should not and do/do not will not get you stopped by the police, but they can still be used in court as part of a case, i.e. to determine liability.
|>>|| No. 10545
I understand the wording. The point I'm making is that the must and should sections are all there in the interest of saving lives. For example, you must not exceed the speed limit and you should indicate regardless of lane are both there to stop people killing other people.
It seems absurd that some of them are rules and some are not.
I don't even know any more. I thought I was having a light hearted conversation with a smattering of fun, but then >>10544 appeared.
|>>|| No. 10546
>It seems absurd that some of them are rules and some are not.
Having two separate books would be absurd.
|>>|| No. 10549
When I used to get the bus my stop was just after a mini roundabout. I've nearly been run over so many times by people who don't bother indicating that they're turning left. The funny thing is, I've nearly hit a few cars there who have assumed that my lack of indicating means I'm going left instead of straight on. I could understand it if it wasn't a roundabout with 4 exits at 90 degree angles. Last time it happened was a BMW pulling in front of me, he stopped and must have spent a good 10 seconds waving his middle fingers at me.
|>>|| No. 10550
There is also a very good thread in >>/mph/2270 about subjects covered here.
I'm a pedestrian and am usually surprised and saddened by the conduct of people in cars.
|>>|| No. 10551
Isn't that just a rehash of the bike v. car cunt-offs that were done to death on /b/ and /pol/?
|>>|| No. 10552
Yes and no, there are some more detailed posts on there including mine, which is absolutely flawless and insightful in all manner of ways.
|>>|| No. 10591
>Drivers who needlessly hog the middle lane on motorways face fines of £100 as well as three penalty points under new government measures designed to crack down on careless motoring.
About bloody time. Some of my mates are terrible for hogging the middle lane (they have mocked me for 'swerving around like a racing driver' because I actually switch lanes), which I reckon is because they're worried that if they go in the left-hand lane they'll get boxed in behind a lorry or granny in her Nissan Micra. It's ridiculous when you see the left-hand lane free and the other two lanes clogged up, it effectively turns the motorway into a dual carriageway.
|>>|| No. 10593
People who are in such a rush they can never go into the slow lane oh my god. Then the fast lane ends up being the slowest one because there's so much traffic in it, while the left hand lane is empty apart from a lorry every half a mile.
Call me a cunt but many a time I've undertaken a hundred cars in a row rather than dick about. It happens on dual carriageways too.
|>>|| No. 10635
I think I may have road rages issues. I wouldn't go out and twat someone but today someone blocked me at a junction because evidently they didn't notice it saying 'KEEP CLEAR' in huge letters ont road and I started swearing and gesticulating like a mad man. My girlfriend leant over and beeped the horn because she found my reaction hysterical.
Is it that
I'm a cunt some people lose their manners when driving because they're not able to make eye contact with the people around them and become inside their own little bubble?
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