>>4260
> split-second look of recognition between former psychonauts who took matters to excess
What's this all about then? I'm definitely one of them, yet I've never had this experience. Sounds like a cool way to meet likeminded people.

>>4645
Set and setting. Classic example of why it's so critical.

I've noticed a lot of talk about Spirituality in thread. Remember, spiritual experiences are not all glowing. Bad trips are spiritual too - they highlight unresolved karmas and make you aware of your own limitations. Bad trips can be the most intense mental torture of your entire life, but they can also be learning experiences. Don't try to avoid them and always be a happy-tripper, just take pure honest psychedelics and let what comes you way come your way.

>>4641
>Unless you're positive that she'd not freak out about it if she found out, please don't do it. There's no point risking causing possibly serious drama, her running to the police or your apprentice place, kick you out of the house or any number of things that could go wrong just for the sake of a trip.
More to the point, don't start tripping with that possibility floating around your head. You want to feel free and safe whenever you trip.

>>4647
>You want to feel free and safe whenever you trip.
This sounds like is something very important that I feel I should make an effort to remember in future, so I am repeating it to myself here.

>>4651
Basically, there are two ways to always trip happy, and I'm about to rip off some Indian mystic's explanations (cant remember which one).

#1 is to exercise perfect mental control and keep your consciousness fixed in a pleasurable place. Remaining in Samadhi is one example of this, where one is above the influence of thoughts. Taking this approach is like riding a motorbike at stupid speeds - you're absolutely 100% fine, so long as you don't lose balance. This is the approach taken by Danny in Withnail & I :)

#2 is to beautify one's mind so that it no longer has any dark corners. Practitioners of this approach don't need to exercise mental control because wherever they end up, it's all safe and happy. A good example is the Hare Krsnas - they fill their mind so full of Krsna and his exploits that there really isn't any space for bad trip material.

I'm much more inclined towards the first approach, but I'd still advise against leaving bad karmas around that you may be liable to crash into.

>>4661
That's really good advice, and I can certainly relate to having done a bit of both but I'm not sure how well someone who hasn't tripped will be able to take it on board.

I don't mean to sound elitist, maybe others will be able, I know I wouldn't have been.

>>4669

I know where you're coming from. I think it's very difficult to fathom what it's going to be like (and therefore to understand how to react to it) until you've tried it.

I was reading up on LSD over at Erowid, and saw this; "As befits a true psychedelic, what is inside a person often comes out on LSD".

What does this mean? Am I going to start blurting out secrets?

Also, a few tabs of LSD; good birthday present? He's never tried acid before either. I thought it would be fun if I turned into some sort of acid father christmas and gifted my mates with em one night.

>>4831
No, you won't.

and yes that would be a lovely thing to do.

>>4832
Great. Wouldn't want him to know I fucked his girl! Badvibes.

>>4831

I think it means it's a laxative

>>4834
Hilarious.

Although on a truthful note, I usually need a poo on a psychedelic come-up (nerves, I think).

>>4849
I find it impossible to poo on LSD, I go in to the bathroom, drop my kecks and end up sitting on the toilet watching the floor matt fabric twirl around itself for 30 minutes.

>>4853
Drugs affect people differently.
Know your body.
Know your mind.
Know your behind.

>>4854
My mirth was audible!

>>4853
I'd also add this has been the source of many concerned knocks at the door.

I have taken lsd for the first time and am listening to this song. It makes me feel so so happy. but spelling correctly is too boring now so goodbywwww

https://www.youtube.com/v/kFN2iRTuc3A

>>4900
Hah, good vibes bro

Fuck man I wanna try some LSD. My mates are mostly just stoners who would like to but are never gonna commit to the idea.

How do I persuade them? Not being funny but I'm not going in alone. I remember one time we weren't even very high and we were enthusiastically talking about the far future, smoking out and getting visited by our alien landlord, on Mars. These people need to be tripping too.

>>4911

The first time I took acid I found myself watching Gore Vidal on BBC news 24 and nodding along enthusiastically with every swipe against the american empire.

It was only when I woke up the next day at 7am, pissing rainbows out of every side of my prism-shaped head that I realized that I was tripping utter balls.

I took LSD for the second time last Saturday and can say that there is one specific moment that I love more than all else.

It's a while after I take it, and I suddenly feel a little anticipation. The first time, the world suddenly 'scrunched' (visual and audial) and it was as if it was normally an accordion that got closed.

The second time I heard a rushing which reminded me of a plane taking off, and then a pulsing light grew and engulfed me and the rushing grew to a head and then cut off, and I began tripping intensely.

Oh, also, I was playing Kyoto and talking on Steam to someone. Here is a sample of what we talked about:


Me: does it have a serious environmental message
Him: idk idc
Me: i do
Me: i am making melodies with the fucking nature
Me: of course i care
Him: I CARE
Him: not really
Me: what will happen if i do nothing
Me: oh
Him: idk
Me: it is sad
Me: nature goes on
Me: without humans
Me: it is almost like
Me: we never existed at all
Me: and the music goes on
Him: ok i will play doodle god
Me: yes
Me: you be the best doodle god
Me: let no evil pass your sight
Him: what shall i combine
Me: earth and fire
Me: to forge the great alliance
Him: done that already
Him: it makes laa
Me: it makes what
Him: lava
Me: that is scarily realistic
Me: it could plausibly happen in real life
Me: if you were a real doodle god
Me: which you arent because doodle gods are not real
Me: unless they are real
Him: i just need some doodles to combine
Him: i combined stone and stone and got stone and stone and fire
Me: i just went back in time wow
Him: wow
Me: by several milliseconds

>>4912
>>4913

By the sounds of these posts it seems like although you can be tripping like fuck, you're still pretty self-aware, pretty 'normal', right?

>>4914

I've not done super mega doses of acid, but on what I've done you might not immediately recognize you're tripping, until you notice something weird (music sounds different, you're having slightly manic thoughts, pissing rainbows out of your head) and you're like "ah, that's the acid then".

Which is quite unlike say, mushrooms, where things like the curtains dancing at you pretty much give it away from square one.

Am I the only person who can't seem to get any acid anywhere?
I had some a few years ago, my dealer managed to get it after I pestered him for about 6 months. Since then nobody I know seems able to get it.
Is it particularly hard to find or am I just not looking hard enough? I'd love to do some more.

>>4924
Contact 1 had some but claimed it was too weak for him to sell on (?). Contact 2 has been telling me he'll have some sheets "by the end of the week" for months. Contact 3 claims he knows a guy who has vials (TBA). Contact 4 is waiting on someone else to lay some blotters.
I think it's there, just on the very peripherals.

Oh, and there's always SR if you're technically-minded.

>>4924

A friend may or may not know someone who manufactures it en masse.

>>4927
Unless that someone is a qualified chemist I personally really wouldn't trust their output (but might still consume it because we appear to be in a bit of a drought around here). Hmph.

>>4930
A handful in the whole world is probably more accurate. Disregarding covert CIA labs, anyway. Most people who you hear are "making" LSD are just putting transferring liquid or crystal LSD to blotter paper. That's probably quite tricky to do well in itself.

Ah, LSD. The only drug that ever made the phrase "Nob dob kebab" take on cosmic significance to me.

I did half a tab of acid that has been lying around in my drawer for a good few months now. It was really weird because I didn't feel anything particularly strongly, so I assumed it didn't work, but everything had this strange vibe about it all night, it was very hard to put my finger on... everything was sort of surreal, a bit dreamy, but pleasant. 3 of us took it and we all said the same, but we weren't noticably high or anything, it was just a bit... relaxed? Is it possible we took a very very small amount?

>>5016
Yes.. LSD deteriorates very quickly but it probably would have retained a trace quantity.

>>5017
Ah, that's a shame... At least I know the source wasn't bullshit, I did just assume it had evaporated or whatever. All in all it worked out quite nicely, because even if it wasn't a full blown 'acid trip', it was a nice night.

https://www.youtube.com/v/oFZ7RhsiSjQ

About to trip balls for the first time tonight. I've comfortably sat through 50mg of 2c-b with no ill effects so I'm hoping this'll be just as pleasant.

I'll report back if I loose my shit. I'd be a filthy liar if I said i wasn't a little anxious, I hope I haven't over-hyped this too much.

>>5519
I think 2c-b is a lot less confusing but you'll be fine!
https://www.youtube.com/v/bnFP-2Kfd98

>>5519
>I'd be a filthy liar if I said i wasn't a little anxious, I hope I haven't over-hyped this too much.

Chill, Winston.

It's all gonna be beautiful.

>>5520
>>5521

Took one tab and waited around, had a little to smoke and both my myself and a friend concluded they were bunk. Took another half each just for good measure and waited it out a little longer.

Bit of a mistake really, it kicked in 3 hours later and completely floored me. It was absolutely hilarious for the first half but as morning arrived and I couldn't watch Peep Show without their faces looking disgusting and warped, I just wished for sleep and started feeling uncomfortable. I went into this completely unaware how long it lasts.

I think i'll plan it out a bit better next time.

>>5529
Oooh dear Peep Show doesn't sound like a great idea!

"Set and setting" are always important - the company you are in and the layout of the room, and some music and any conversation that might happen is often pleasant rather than watching something. It is also a great great idea to hit the great outdoors on the comedown at dawn and appreciate nature. Yes, it keeps you awake for a long time and can be gruelling.

If it was just not enjoyable overall you are under no self-imposed obligation to 'do it properly' next time or ever take it again, it's not a competitive sport! Glad to hear you got the laughing jag.

>>5529

Fair play, I know the feeling well. I've done acid about 5 times in my teens to early twenties.

My first few times were great. The first time was particularly fun, running round a field with my mates, pretending we were animals and shit. However, the last time i did it was a little scary. The majority of the trip was fine, but i freaked myself out when i tried to sleep, started thinking i was going mad (not a good mindset to get into on acid).
The next day, after no sleep, i couldn't talk to my ex or any fucker and had thoughts that i might be stuck like this. Picturing phoning the doctors and having to tell work i couldn't turn up. Scared myself silly, all day long. But after a good nights sleep the next night I was OK, just a little shaken. I haven't taken Acid again though, I find them too hard to predict in terms of strength.
I think having some strong sleeping pills around wouldn't be a bad idea for anyone experimenting with acid.

I have, however, taken mushrooms many, many times after doing it. I like the fact you have a lot more control over the dose.

>>5529
It's quite likely your extra half-tab had no effect at all, LSD tolerance is massive and almost instantaneous. Reports vary from 200-400% tolerance the following day, though I don't know how quickly it builds.

Peep Show as acid comedown material, good god no. A TV show about the subtleties of social awkwardness and mental insecurity. Nah, head for the hills. Somewhere with no other people, preferably.

>I think having some strong sleeping pills around wouldn't be a bad idea for anyone experimenting with acid.
This. In a pinch, any alcohol you find easy to drink, the stronger the better; alcohol is a depressant and will bring you back. These days I wouldn't trip unless I knew I had booze or benzos for afterwards (not that I've even seen a trip in the best part of a decade).

What's the name for that woosh thing that happens a while after you take it? I felt like I was an aeroplane taking off.

>>5536
Just a "come up" or "coming up", I think.

>>5537
That's something you might feel during the come up but I don't think there's a name for the sensation of woosh.

>>5539

Does it happen to everyone or is it rare or is this kind of thing different for everyone?

>>5540

I've no idea. I imagine it's something that happens to everyone some of the time.

>>5529

Went for round two the other night, was a bit apprehensive as it it kicked my arse the first time.

Took 3/4 of a strong tab with 2 other mates and had a fucking blast, none of the gut-wrenching "I've really gone and done it this time, i've gone crazy" paranoia I experienced last time.

Everything was hilarious, visuals were mild until I insufflated 6mg of 2c-b about 5 hours in. Absolutely beautiful, wavy and colourful! It couldn't have been a better mix, especially when we went to a park in the morning and the floor and shadows were shimmering and moving everywhere.

THIS was the trip i was searching for, good vibes and mad visuals. Great night.

So had a tab and a half of what we were assured was LSD last night. Probably wasn't, though the chap we got it from insists it's as near as we'll get if not. My mate has had shrooms but this was the first time I've dabbled with hallucinogenics, just having been very interested.

Overall it was odd. Nothing at all for about three hours; we had taken half a tab each because we didn't want to just jump in the deep end, but about two hours later, both of us distinctly felt nothing, we were impatient and over the next couple of hours basically ate the rest of the tabs we had, figuring if nothing happens, fuck it.

Still nothing until about 4am, when we gave the whole thing up as a bad job and went for a spliff before bed. Within about 20 minutes my mate came back down to tell me he was tripping; meanwhile I had been quietly staring at the ceiling and controlling how much it melted with my mind, and staring at a scribble I had made earlier because the colours were 3D. We proceeded to listen to Jimi Hendrix and both realised the room was music, but were amazed at how subtle the effect was; then we put on Inception until we both fell asleep.

We think it was either two shit tabs and we had half a good one each, which coincided with the joint because we pretty much already thought nothing would happen; or it was some other crazy chemical that the weed (though we really didn't have much at all) activated, having laid dormant because we were focussing too much on it... Either way the whole thing was much milder than I would have expected (which is probably a good thing); but I wonder if any of you lot have experienced such a delayed onset like that?

>>5877
>basically ate the rest of the tabs
Did you literally eat them or did you hold them under your gum/tongue for half an hour?
It does sound like they were weak, whatever the case. Tabs seem unreliable.

>>5877
>We think it was either two shit tabs and we had half a good one each
More or less, probably just weak acid to begin with given how mild the effect was. All sorts of things can ruin tabs, too.

>>5878

Yeah we did everything "right", even calling the dealer after about an hour and a half to make sure we hadn't done anything wrong. Overall I think the expectation may have helped to suppress the effect considering it seems like they were pretty weak to begin with.

>>5880
To be honest mate if it was decent acid you'd fucking know about it after a few hours at most. There's no "suppressing" it with your expectations.

It might have been decent acid once - heat, light, and moisture will spoil acid, as does air given enough time.